Any g-a-y members here?

[Oberon]

I was wondering if there are any g-a-y members here. I am g-a-y and have considered joining (or creating) a g-a-y WoW guild when the game comes out.

Please no flaming.

[vid]

Respect m8, good luck in your endevour and if you need anything i will help :)

[Xaf]

I was wondering if there are any g-a-y members here. I am g-a-y and have considered joining (or creating) a g-a-y WoW guild when the game comes out.

Please no flaming.

I hope you are all gnomes with pink beards. Imagine a swarm of *** little pink gnomes attacking the horde. :lol:

Anyway i know there is atleast one openly *** member here, and probably more if you want to do it by the odds.

[Booms]

I know Essex and George Bush are, but GB hasn't been active for a while.

[xXxDraGoNxXx1123]

Another one? Dear lord they are invading the forums! Wait... what if they aren't invading the forums? What if... the are infecting the current members!!!??? Oh dear lord we are being turned homosexual! No! You won't take me! You hear? You won't... Xaf you have a nice butt... NOOOO! NOOOO!!! It's already happening! GaaaaahhhH!!!!

[ScytheNoire]

i'd be ghey, but i'm not good looking enough
so i guess i'll have to settle for women

[Blackmoore]

Scythe..your beard looks too much like Frank Zappa. Meh...just don't bypass the word filter too much.

[Semidi]

I'd be homosexual if it wasn't for the sex.

[Embries]

I thought about being homosexual, but I don't dress well enough.

[Bhs Crew]

Meh...just don't bypass the word filter too much.
Even when it makes no sense and prevents us from easily discussing the topic at hand. I guess we just aren't supposed to discuss those who are homosexual in nature.

We'll just have to refer to them as queer. It's more offensive but at least it's not blocked and that's the important thing. You wouldn't want to bypass the word filter too much.

[Blackmoore]

You probably know, but *** is morely used as an insult then it is a person. Shame really.

[Bhs Crew]

It's an insult only because people allow it to be. If people didn't take it as one (if it for example wasn't blocked) it wouldn't be one.

People try to insult others by calling them a 'girl' or a 'woman' but we just don't take them as insults and view the people using them as morons. If we did the same for *** it would stop working.

In fact I can't remember the last time someone called someone else *** as an insult on this forum.

[Blackmoore]

I fully agree with you BHS, but unfortunately, I can't do anything about it.

[AgeOfAbnegation]

heh, Dragon's post had me rolling :p. Where's Essex at? :lol:

[Essex]

sorry wasn't on the forum much. I'm the Essex everyone was talking about and I've been open since the first week I got on this forum back in Feburary :)

Lots of very *** friendly people on this forum, there is one *** guild on the pvp server right now called the ambigious mafia. I'm not sure but Mystic Alliance may join the game and make one as well.

I'm in WWN East and everyone is very accepting :)

[A Thousand Lies]

That means, if members of your guild get jumped when they're out hunting, you can call the offenders ***-bashers and sue them!

[Oberon]

sorry wasn't on the forum much. I'm the Essex everyone was talking about and I've been open since the first week I got on this forum back in Feburary :)

Nice to meet you! And you're in Tennessee too (I'm in North Carolina). Amazing how many of us you'll find in the South.

[blindcside]

there is a same sex oriented guild in CB, they are called ... ambiguous mafia. i prefer the other sex myself. <3 my gf comin' up on 2 years. but yeah just have that info because i spend WAY too much time reading the CB forums =\ <3 wow

[SynthetiCyclone]

I think that might actually be sexism? not allowing anything but a certain sex to join a guild.
Good luck anyway hope you find what your looking for.

[Mad_Mat]

I think that might actually be sexism? not allowing anything but a certain sex to join a guild.
Good luck anyway hope you find what your looking for.
I tend to agree there. Nothing against your idea personally Oberon, but I don't see how sexual prefrence should have an impact ingame one way or the other. As long as people are tolerant and mature, does it really matter what sex/sexuality they're of?

Well I guess people socialize in games for different reasons, please don't feel compelled to reply to this :cheesy:

[Essex]

I tend to agree there. Nothing against your idea personally Oberon, but I don't see how sexual prefrence should have an impact ingame one way or the other. As long as people are tolerant and mature, does it really matter what sex/sexuality they're of?

Well I guess people socialize in games for different reasons, please don't feel compelled to reply to this :cheesy:
well I think I can answer. For one it wouldn't limit anyone by sex, both male and female could get in.

Also any *** guild I"ve seen has always been a "*** friendly" guild. In other words they allowed straight memebers. The only thing they did was have rules against hate speech towards homosexuals.

I personally felt like joining a *** guild because of the fact I could be open about who I am, I could talk about the things i really want to ect. However with WWN they've all known me so long from the forum that I can talk about that anyway.

[SpiritWalker]

In all seriousness though, why create a *** guild? That would probably create a lot of attention, and maybe even hate.

[A Thousand Lies]

At least you'd get a reputation and recognition. Any publicity is good publicity.

[Essex]

In all seriousness though, why create a *** guild? That would probably create a lot of attention, and maybe even hate.
well generally most of the guild names wouldn't indicate that they are "***" guilds. Mystic Alliance is the largest *** guild in EQ and just the name alone doesn't tell you that.

Anyway as I said the reason to join one is that you can be open about who you are. It's also nice not to feel as though your the only "different" person in the guild. I mean I love WWN but I get leary about talking about my boyfriend there because i'm the only *** member (that I know)

So anyway there are several reasons but there are several reasons not to join as well.

[AgeOfAbnegation]

Ambiguous mafia? They're a horde guild on Beta PvP lol.. Ran into them all the time in SV - they should know me by now lol :uhhuh:..

[Mad_Mat]

I think any self respecting guild should have rules against hate mongering of any kind. People who are too immature or ignorant to respect such rules should have no place in a guild with ethical values.

[Oberon]

I'm not proposing a guild that would exclude heterosexuals and certainly not one which would exclude someone based on gender. Minorities sometimes like to coalesce together and we queers tend to like it more than most it seems. If open-minded straights (or bi's) want to join then that would be great too.

[jubjub]

I think any self respecting guild should have rules against hate mongering of any kind. People who are too immature or ignorant to respect such rules should have no place in a guild with ethical values.

Amen. I would not want to be a part of any guild that allowed queer bashing or harassment of any kind (racial, gender, religion).

[AgeOfAbnegation]

What faction would you be tho? Go to the guild forums and get it started. One thing about this site is that just about everyone here, with the exception of my guild and the Garden Gnomes, loves the horde. You may consider making a horde guild for people to join.

[BlueMage]

A homosexual guild... :scratch: *imagines WoW being a big, pink 'my little pony' world where every male looks like the babarian from Diablo 2. Instead of dying, you break your nails and instead of armor, you have little, pink thongs.*

I guess I'm not a very open-minded person... :(

[Oberon]

I guess I'm not a very open-minded person.

Doesn't appear so but your avatar is queer.

[Oberon]

What faction would you be tho? Go to the guild forums and get it started. One thing about this site is that just about everyone here, with the exception of my guild and the Garden Gnomes, loves the horde. You may consider making a horde guild for people to join.

I have 8 characters planned out (one of each race) since I can't decide which race I like the best. I'll probably never decide - it goes against my nature. For example in WC3 I almost always play random. Can guilds span multiple servers and both factions? It looks like I'll be playing on two servers since they won't allow a player to have both horde and alliance characters on the same server.

[AgeOfAbnegation]

Yea, if a guild is big enough, it can span many servers, but you have to be practical. Since you're just starting out, you should really choose one server, and one gaming model to make things simple. Then, when you have the numbers, you can expand the way you want.

[Ceredwynn]

See heres the problem if there's a Homosexual Guild thats all cool, but if there was a Heterosexual Guild people will be talking. Same thing if there was a Latinos Only, Blacks Only, Whites Only, etc etc...

It's best to make guilds that have nothing to do with the People Themselves. Unless it's thing like interests...
lol that could make problems too but very minor.
(StarWars v.s StarTrek | Yu-gi-yo v.s Dual Master | Digimon v.s Pokemon | TNA v.s WWE :lol: )

Plus not all online players are kind, I've seen Racism and Homophobia, it isn't right, but it happens

Jus my 2 cents :thanks:

[Wormwart]

I was wondering if there are any g-a-y members here. I am g-a-y and have considered joining (or creating) a g-a-y WoW guild when the game comes out.

Please no flaming.

There seems to be scattered opposition to your idea for a guild if it is promoted as a 'g-a-y' or 'g-a-y-only' guild. If you are willing to accept non-bigoted straight people, then you might do a little better to prominently promote yourself as 'g-a-y-friendly'. Knowing the extent to which anti-g-a-y bigotry is still accepted in this society, I would guess your guild would attract members opposed to other less-tolerated forms of bigotry such as sexism and racism. If someone wants to call their guild 'straight-friendly', then it is obviously a code word to attract bigots, and it is probably just as well that the most extreme bigots form their own guilds and stay away from the rest of us.

If you decide to form such a 'g-a-y-friendly' guild, I might be interested in joining, even thought I am straight.

[Semidi]

Good luck with your guild, but I, personaly, don't think it's the best idea ever, you're just asking for trouble from the 12 year old punks.

[Echod16]

Good luck with your guild, but I, personaly, don't think it's the best idea ever, you're just asking for trouble from the 12 year old punks.

This is true, those frustrated 12-13 year old boys wondering why there penises get hard will bash at anything, it's quite annoying

I've no opinion about your guild though, it doens't matter to me if it's *** or not

[AgeOfAbnegation]

See heres the problem if there's a Homosexual Guild thats all cool, but if there was a Heterosexual Guild people will be talking. Same thing if there was a Latinos Only, Blacks Only, Whites Only, etc etc...

Good point ^^.

[Oberon]

See heres the problem if there's a Homosexual Guild thats all cool, but if there was a Heterosexual Guild people will be talking. Same thing if there was a Latinos Only, Blacks Only, Whites Only, etc etc...

Let me repeat myself....

I'm not proposing a guild that would exclude heterosexuals and certainly not one which would exclude someone based on gender. Minorities sometimes like to coalesce together and we queers tend to like it more than most it seems. If open-minded straights (or bi's) want to join then that would be great too.

[A Thousand Lies]

If I ever play WoW, maybe I'll join. Being bi gets you the best of both worlds. :)

[Scytale]

homosexuals are *** !

[GreenFaun]

Hi, I'm a fairy, bisexual actually, although I prefer "Queer" or "pansexual" as a protest against the idea of binary gender. But that might be a little advanced for a gaming forum. :)

Nice to meet you! And you're in Tennessee too (I'm in North Carolina). Amazing how many of us you'll find in the South.

Yeah, I'm originally from NC too, but I got outta there. :)

There are SO many tacky-great possibilities for guild names...

[Mad_Mat]

There seems to be scattered opposition to your idea for a guild if it is promoted as a 'g-a-y' or 'g-a-y-only' guild. If you are willing to accept non-bigoted straight people, then you might do a little better to prominently promote yourself as 'g-a-y-friendly'. Knowing the extent to which anti-g-a-y bigotry is still accepted in this society, I would guess your guild would attract members opposed to other less-tolerated forms of bigotry such as sexism and racism. If someone wants to call their guild 'straight-friendly', then it is obviously a code word to attract bigots, and it is probably just as well that the most extreme bigots form their own guilds and stay away from the rest of us.

If you decide to form such a 'g-a-y-friendly' guild, I might be interested in joining, even thought I am straight.
This is basicly my point. If the core interest of this guild is to avoid bigotry, and the actual sexual prefrences of members isn't really an issue, why call it a *** guild?

I'm not blaming you (Oberon) of being anti-straight - I simply think declaring a guild as such (when it's really not a *** guild, it's ***-friendly) would attract negative attention I'm sure you'd wish to avoid, unless you're secretly looking for attention.

I'd suggest you form a list of ground rules - guild policy if you will - and bring it to the attention of anyone who wishes to join. It would probably save you trouble in the future.

[xXxDraGoNxXx1123]

You know, only steers and queers come from Texas, and I don't have any horns.

AAAHHHH!!!! It's still spreading! I'm becoming more homosexual by the second! Quick, we must fight back! Gather your weapons! Round up the men! Form a dance troop! Dance troop? What? Ahhhhhhhhhhh!

[Oberon]

Hi, I'm a fairy, bisexual actually, although I prefer "Queer" or "pansexual" as a protest against the idea of binary gender. But that might be a little advanced for a gaming forum. :)

There are SO many tacky-great possibilities for guild names...


Yeah - I wouldn't call it the "g-a-y" guild as some seem to indicate. There are many possibilities for naming it. My username here, Oberon, comes from a Midsummer Night's Dream - the name of the king of the faeries. Something along those lines would be best - serruptitious enough so the bigots don't realize it but not too off for we queers to recognize it.


This is basicly my point. If the core interest of this guild is to avoid bigotry, and the actual sexual prefrences of members isn't really an issue, why call it a *** guild?

I'm not blaming you (Oberon) of being anti-straight - I simply think declaring a guild as such (when it's really not a *** guild, it's ***-friendly) would attract negative attention I'm sure you'd wish to avoid, unless you're secretly looking for attention.

I'd suggest you form a list of ground rules - guild policy if you will - and bring it to the attention of anyone who wishes to join. It would probably save you trouble in the future.


See above. The last thing I want people to think is I want an anti-straight guild. Most of my friends IRL are straight.

[Elorion]

I cant agree its a good idea, just because its asking for trouble. :(
Why dont you just start your own guild and have a no bashing guild all around. The truth is, we just all want a guild where we have friends and a place to enjoy the game. *** or not if you saw someone bashing for being *** or being different in anyway, I dont see many people looking to be this persons friend, weather you are different then him or not.

Joking around this way may be a different thing, seeing a *** person making fun of another *** person for being ***, well thats funny weather your *** or not. Just comes down to you and what your looking at in the people you play with.

[Oberon]

I suppose you have a point there Elorion. I'll abandon the prospect of starting a ***-friendly guild.

[Mastgrr]

I have no problem with a *** guild. Minorities have in my opinion a special right to organize themselves together, whether it be black or *** or other.

[Bhs Crew]

I have no problem with a *** guild. Minorities have in my opinion a special right to organize themselves together, whether it be black or *** or other.
What special right? Everyone can organize how they choose to, though I would like it if no group excluded a person who wanted to join and would fit all the criteria (Criteria that can be easily changed. If someone posts too much that can be fixed. If someone can't join cause they aren't from a particular race that's a little harder to change.)

[Elorion]

I have no problem with a *** guild. Minorities have in my opinion a special right to organize themselves together, whether it be black or *** or other.
Yup they have the right. Just might cause more then a problem then turning into the godo thing they want. Im all for it though. I know Im going to be playing with people that Im going to have fun with. Doesnt matter thier sexuality, religion or political view. Gnomes are kinda scary though. :scared:

[xXxDraGoNxXx1123]

I have no problem with a *** guild. Minorities have in my opinion a special right to organize themselves together, whether it be black or *** or other.

You're right. Hey, white supremecists are a minority in my area.

*runs off to start a new guild full of white love and brotherhood*

[Elorion]

You're right. Hey, white supremecists are a minority in my area.

*runs off to start a new guild full of white love and brotherhood*
AHHH Not the Gnomes!!!!! HELP HELP! The Gnomes are coming! The Gnomes are coming!

[Bhs Crew]

You're right. Hey, white supremecists are a minority in my area.

*runs off to start a new guild full of white love and brotherhood*
Wait didn't you already do this?

[Booms]

I'm sorry Oberon, but I cannot support your idea for a ***-friendly guild because Elorion has convinced me that being *** is both wrong and immoral. I suggest that you go through life without ever giving in to your sexual desire, but seeing as that might be hard I recommend just killing yourself.

(If you didn't get that I was being sarcastic...well, you're probably a neocon. I think that speaks for itself.)

[Tevush Kasht]

In that respect, it's also wrong to be black, asian, socialist, muslim, obese, French, old, blind, hairy, over 7 feet tall or a Christmas tree owner.

I don't mind Homer sexuals, except when they're really gorgeous lesbians :(

[Dark Knight]

I have no problem with a *** guild. Minorities have in my opinion a special right to organize themselves together, whether it be black or *** or other.
Um... what special right? :cheesy:

Who gets to choose who gets these special rights? :scratch:

Did whoever let some people have more rights than others think this idea through properly? :scratch:

[Elorion]

I'm sorry Oberon, but I cannot support your idea for a ***-friendly guild because Elorion has convinced me that being *** is both wrong and immoral. I suggest that you go through life without ever giving in to your sexual desire, but seeing as that might be hard I recommend just killing yourself.

(If you didn't get that I was being sarcastic...well, you're probably a neocon. I think that speaks for itself.)
Booms your sick. How can that possibly be funny. Ya I believe homosexuality is wrong. But your the one that came to a *** post and shoved the issue of right and wrong in the face of the posters. They posted this for support and compassion and to see if it would be excepted. I have given them my blessing. But you would have to ignore their feelings to get back at me. Wouldnt you?

Sorry guys.

[Bhs Crew]

Booms your sick. How can that possibly be funny. Ya I believe homosexuality is wrong. But your the one that came to a *** post and shoved the issue of right and wrong in the face of the posters. They posted this for support and compassion and to see if it would be excepted. I have given them my blessing. But you would have to ignore their feelings to get back at me. Wouldnt you?

Sorry guys.
Wait you have a problem that he brought up what you posted in the other thread? You're the one who is saying the *** sex is wrong and that gays should never have sex. Then you say you give these people your blessing. What exactly is this blessing? They have your blessing to become straight?

You wish them to be celibate because you have a problem with their sexual orientation. I hardly see how that is giving them support and compassion.

[Booms]

I'm pretty sure that both Oberon, Essex and any other *** members here realized I was a)being sarcastic and b)essentially reiterating what you (Elorion) had said in other threads.

I apologize if I've offended anyone with what I said, for I have absolutely nothing against homosexuality. On the other hand, if you want to be offended at Elorion, by all means go ahead. I am.

[Elorion]

Wait you have a problem that he brought up what you posted in the other thread? You're the one who is saying the *** sex is wrong and that gays should never have sex. Then you say you give these people your blessing. What exactly is this blessing? They have your blessing to become straight?

You wish them to be celibate because you have a problem with their sexual orientation. I hardly see how that is giving them support and compassion.
Oh your dead right I have a problem with it. Its not up to me weather they become strait or not. I leave that in Gods hands.

I support that they came to a place looking for people to care. Looking for people to give them a place to feel welcome. You are the ones that tore down the door and offended thier reason for posting in the first place.

[Elorion]

I'm pretty sure that both Oberon, Essex and any other *** members here realized I was a)being sarcastic and b)essentially reiterating what you (Elorion) had said in other threads.

I apologize if I've offended anyone with what I said, for I have absolutely nothing against homosexuality. On the other hand, if you want to be offended at Elorion, by all means go ahead. I am.
This is where you and me part in moral thinking. I believe there is a time and place for everything and it was NOT time for you to bring this to the table. If they wanted in on the debate we were having, then they would have came looking for it.

I know that you didnt want to offend anyone. None of us ever do. I wish people could understand that what is right isnt always the stating of your oppions. Sometimes its just reconnizing when to say something and when to not talk at all.

[Bhs Crew]

Oh your dead right I have a problem with it. Its not up to me weather they become strait or not. I leave that in Gods hands.

I support that they came to a place looking for people to care. Looking for people to give them a place to feel welcome. You are the ones that tore down the door and offended thier reason for posting in the first place.
Well there's only one way to solve this and that is to ask them.

Essex and Oberon if you could answer this that would be great.
Which of the three of us (Booms, Elorion, or me) offended you guys the most if any of us did?

Thanks.

[Elorion]

Well there's only one way to solve this and that is to ask them.

Essex and Oberon if you could answer this that would be great.
Which of the three of us (Booms, Elorion, or me) offended you guys the most if any of us did?

Thanks.
You still dont understand. If Booms wouldnt of said anyhting, it wouldnt be an issue. That is whats wrong here. Not that I believe one war or another.

[xXxDraGoNxXx1123]

Guys, I ask all three of you to just drop it for now in this particular thread. Surely the one thing you can all agree on is the conversation is NOT going to get better and likely will only get worse. Continueing the arguement here is only going to hijack the point of this thread and turn it very, very ugly.

You are all of course free to do what you like, and I'm certainly no one of great importance, but I'm asking anyways. Take it or leave it.

I'm in the wrong here myself, I was about to call Mastgrr on something I believed was completely wrong. This isn't the place for it, so I'm bowing out of the thread.

[Oberon]

Essex and Oberon if you could answer this that would be great. Which of the three of us (Booms, Elorion, or me) offended you guys the most if any of us did?

None of you guys offended me. After more than ten years of debating this issue it takes a lot to offend me. I posted for some time at warcraftreplays.com (site now defunct) and then at WCReplays (http://www.wcreplays.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=2) and the level of maturity here is significantly higher. Just do a seach there for "Oberon" and you'll see some of the crap I had to deal with there. This forum is much better.

[Elorion]

Guys, I ask all three of you to just drop it for now in this particular thread. Surely the one thing you can all agree on is the conversation is NOT going to get better and likely will only get worse. Continueing the arguement here is only going to hijack the point of this thread and turn it very, very ugly.

You are all of course free to do what you like, and I'm certainly no one of great importance, but I'm asking anyways. Take it or leave it.

I'm in the wrong here myself, I was about to call Mastgrr on something I believed was completely wrong. This isn't the place for it, so I'm bowing out of the thread.
Cant argue with that.

[Havard]

I luv you all, hugs all around. :clap:

[xXxDraGoNxXx1123]

I luv you all, hugs all around. :clap:

*hugs Havard*

*reaches around and obliviously grabs his butt*

*runs away giggling*

[Essex]

This is where you and me part in moral thinking. I believe there is a time and place for everything and it was NOT time for you to bring this to the table. If they wanted in on the debate we were having, then they would have came looking for it.

I know that you didnt want to offend anyone. None of us ever do. I wish people could understand that what is right isnt always the stating of your oppions. Sometimes its just reconnizing when to say something and when to not talk at all.
I may have missed something in the 9 or 10 pages in the WMD thread but where exactly did a thread about WMD's become a *** debate? I did skip a few pages so i may be wrong on that.


Booms don't worry you didn't offend me because I know how you feel on the subject :)


Also I think people missed where Mast said it was "his opinon" so yeah... it was his opinon not a written law :)

[Elorion]

I may have missed something in the 9 or 10 pages in the WMD thread but where exactly did a thread about WMD's become a *** debate? I did skip a few pages so i may be wrong on that.


Booms don't worry you didn't offend me because I know how you feel on the subject :)


Also I think people missed where Mast said it was "his opinon" so yeah... it was his opinon not a written law :)
Ya alot of stuff has been brought up in that whole mess of a debate. I am sorry that you got pissed at the whole thing.

[Essex]

Ya alot of stuff has been brought up in that whole mess of a debate. I am sorry that you got pissed at the whole thing.
yeah that tends to happen when I'm total I'm morally wrong and should practise celebacy all my life :)

[SpiritWalker]

*hugs Havard*

*reaches around and obliviously grabs his butt*

*runs away giggling*
*jealous*..

Where's my manlovin'?! :(

[BlueMage]

*jealous*..

Where's my manlovin'?! :(

Jesus is watching you, Spirit. Remember that. Maybe give the perv a little peep-show or something.

[Elly]

Even when it makes no sense and prevents us from easily discussing the topic at hand. I guess we just aren't supposed to discuss those who are homosexual in nature.

We'll just have to refer to them as queer. It's more offensive but at least it's not blocked and that's the important thing. You wouldn't want to bypass the word filter too much.

mmm I'm pretty sure you've raised this issue before or been part of another thread asking about the word filter. Anyway, you're assumption is wrong. We do not wish to prevent people from discussing homosexuality (which I think you know anyway), the filtered word was increasingly being used in a derogatory manner which you've seen plenty of times on these forums and generally around the net.

[SpiritWalker]

Jesus is watching you, Spirit. Remember that. Maybe give the perv a little peep-show or something.
Me an' Jesus were doin' the hokey pokey just the other day! :innocent:

[Xaf]

Me an' Jesus were doin' the hokey pokey just the other day! :innocent:

Isnt it supposed to be the hankey pankey, or were you just dancing with jesus?

[Havard]

*hugs Havard*

*reaches around and obliviously grabs his butt*

*runs away giggling*

This reminds me of something that happened last Saturday. A buddy and I were in this bar talking to some women and one of our friends comes up and executes a "credit card swipe" on my friend. For those of you who don't know what a credit card swipe is, use your imagination. (FYI, we are in our 20's but the women were in their 30's and not likely to be impressed by such behavior.)

So my buddy jumped, and the ladies asked us what had just happened. My buddy said he got swiped, and they all looked confused. Then our offending friend came back and apologized, and said to all that he was "straight, but liked my buddy in a not-so-straight way."

Is the offending friend:

a) Horribly immature
b) Immature but funny (a la Tom Green)
c) A closet homosexual

And, yes this did take place in San Francisco, but not in a *** bar. :uhhuh:

[Semidi]

a) Horribly immature
b) Immature but funny (a la Tom Green)
c) A closet homosexual

Bubbles in B on his test sheet.

[Elorion]

Is the offending friend:

a) Horribly immature
b) Immature but funny (a la Tom Green)
c) A closet homosexual

And, yes this did take place in San Francisco, but not in a *** bar. :uhhuh:
It all comes down to the way you and your friends responded and also the past the the girls and how they think. Some girls wont respond well to this not matter what.

Girls usually dont mind guys that have a silly side to them (some even preffer one), as long as its not annoying. I can understand this going on in San Francisco, there would be something that comes "strait"(or not) to the girls minds. One of the biggest ways to make it look like your not *** without saying it, is by just seeing what happened for what is was. A joke. *example* If you laugh at it and just say to your friend, while laughing, "haha whats up man(bro, dude, *name*, G, whatever you guys use for a greeting)", then most the time everyone else will see it that way and just forget about what just happened.

Next time grab you friends butt after he swipes you. Then shake the girls hand. I dont know how the girls will respond, but for those that catch what happened, it will be funny.

[Havard]

They were 3 women, and the youngest was 33 (but hot mamas, nonetheless :uhhuh: )

Women that age aren't usually big on guys grabbing other guys' butts as jokes.

NOTE: and no, I didn't score with any of them, but I will admit that it could easily have been my lack of charm, and not the butt incident

[Elorion]

They were 3 women, and the youngest was 33 (but hot mamas, nonetheless :uhhuh: )

Women that age aren't usually big on guys grabbing other guys' butts as jokes.

NOTE: and no, I didn't score with any of them, but I will admit that it could easily have been my lack of charm, and not the butt incident
:rant:
Why does charm have to be a factor? Not like its good for anything. :(

[Havard]

Charm isn't the only thing women care about. They like money too! :lol:

[Elorion]

Charm isn't the only thing women care about. They like money too! :lol:
You know... This is one of the qualities I really dont like about women. So am I in trouble?

[BlueMage]

Charm and money isn't the only stuff. Get them good'n drunk and they'll... Well, they'll be dreadfully honest about how not attractive they find you.

[Elorion]

Charm and money isn't the only stuff. Get them good'n drunk and they'll... Well, they'll be dreadfully honest about how not attractive they find you.
LOL I love how you just put that.

[Ulkieab]

I'm bi.


WHAT!