Release date announced

[Tevush Kasht]

November 23rd :)

http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-general&t=508159&p=1&tmp=1#post508159

[bild84]

November 23rd :)

http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-general&t=508159&p=1&tmp=1#post508159


Nice but I hope we can play ST and OB up to a day or two before release, or I might need a week's stint in WoW rehab. So dang addicting, I'm putting off my tw main papers in classes.

[moi]

woooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

[SaberPrivateer]

obligatory w00t post! so close...yet so far...

[Pai Mai]

Nice, they lied as expected. Can't wait to see what else they lied about.

[CryHavok]

So at best a 2 week Open Beta? Seems a bit short or just right if they only want to give people a 2 week free trial.

[Scorch_Hellfire]

dang... you beat me to it... i just saw the announcement on blizzard.com... and what do you mean they lied pai mai?... vu said it would come out around then... it just happened to be a day after what people thought... yeah its too bad i cant play wow until after christmas, cuz thats when im getting my computer... oh well...http://instagiber.net/smiliesdotcom/contrib/ed/urg.gif

[RavenFirecaster]

Nice, they lied as expected. Can't wait to see what else they lied about.
Lied about...?

Adding my obligatory: woo wooooo! :D


*and the whistles go wooo!*

[Tevush Kasht]

How do you mean, they lied ? About what ?

[DarthKirby001]

Bleh. I was hoping it would be smaller than $15 a month. Oh well. I'll live :P

[Teh Kurb]

I should have Halo2 under control by then :)

[Arioch]

That's only 19 days away... they must have already gone gold with ST2/OB client and are depending on a patch to bring retail players up to date. Fortunately, you can get away with that for an MMOG.

Kinda sad that they can't name a release date until 19 days beforehand.

Pai Mai, with each passing day you become more and more a useless troll.

[Dooplanger]

Pai is just venting.
I'm happy to see its finally got a release date, except now every day is going to be longer and longer as release comes nearer.

[Pai Mai]

dang... you beat me to it... i just saw the announcement on blizzard.com... and what do you mean they lied pai mai?... vu said it would come out around then... it just happened to be a day after what people thought... yeah its too bad i cant play wow until after christmas, cuz thats when im getting my computer... oh well...http://instagiber.net/smiliesdotcom/contrib/ed/urg.gif
Just the little fact that they full well knew ahead of time exactly when they were going to have the game released and said "There is no official release date at this time" just two days prior to the CB ending. This was in response to the forum being spammed with "Nov 22nd is release" and the article with the Vivendi president.

I would strongly advise against putting any points into talents if you make a hunter or paladin for at least the first five weeks after retail. They will get changed after it goes live.

[RavenFirecaster]

Bleh. I was hoping it would be smaller than $15 a month. Oh well. I'll live :P

It is. Just have to prepay for 6 months to knock it down to $13/mo. Though I dislike forking over that much cash up front, since I'll be paying for 2 accounts (my wife's and mine) the $48/yr I'd be saving is worth it to me.

[OneMadOgre]

Just the little fact that they full well knew ahead of time exactly when they were going to have the game released and said "There is no official release date at this time" just two days prior to the CB ending. This was in response to the forum being spammed with "Nov 22nd is release" and the article with the Vivendi president.

I would strongly advise against putting any points into talents if you make a hunter or paladin for at least the first five weeks after retail. They will get changed after it goes live.
Actually, like I mentioned on the front page. I got wind of an hour all company meeting that happened at Blizzard, yesterday afternoon. (I actually posted in the forums about yesterday and then deleted the post thinking it was too speculative. :) I should have kept it. I would have scooped the announcement.) I doubt that most people in the company knew before that meeting that they would make that day. They have been working some insane hours, and pushing really hard to make their date.

[RavenFirecaster]

I would strongly advise against putting any points into talents if you make a hunter or paladin for at least the first five weeks after retail. They will get changed after it goes live.
And you think they won't change the other classes' talents why...?

Personally, I don't plan on investing any points in talents for the first month or so because, in balancing, I fear that pretty much all talents for all classes run the risk of re-adjustment during the opening month....

But I may just be paranoid. *shrug*

[Dooplanger]

since we are on the subject of pricing,
Has EQ2 announced their prices? I always thought EQ2 would have a higher monthly price than WoW.

[Tevush Kasht]

The advantage of living in Europe is that we'll get an even better product because of the (short) delay.

[Dooplanger]

The advantage of living in Europe is that we'll get an even better product because of the (short) delay.
yeah, just think of it as all the americans working hard to make sure the product to be sold in Europe is perfected.

[Hydro]

YAYAYAYAY!
That's all I have to say about that!

[stacker55]

i just took a look at my school schedule and to my great relief we have thanksgiving break starting the 24th going through that weekend. HOPEFULLY i can go pick up the game the 23rd after school and get my game on for a good 5 days and nights. just hope my girlfriend doesnt get jealous like she always does...its so hard to balance the two

[ZookCloak]

Hurrah! After all those years of waiting, i'm less that 20 days from it...Huzzah! :D

[blindcside]

i told you guys... Tuesdays!!!

[Cursive]

..... I just wet myself, wait! Nevermind, I just soiled my boxers. I will now change them and do backflips.

[Laledin]

W00tage!!!

[Ifrit18]

WoW and EQ2 have the same montly fee.

EQ2 is not looking very good right now. The dev team keeps making radical changes before release date.

I will gladly pay 15 bucks a month to play WoW.

[spaker_man]

Just sent the email to my boss requesting the week off... next I need to start stocking provisions. SO much to do and so little time. Wonder what time I should gett to the store to camp out ... I didn't pre-order :(

[DarthKirby001]

EQ2 is not looking very good right now. The dev team keeps making radical changes before release date.

I haven't been keeping up with EQ2. What all are they changing?

[Dooplanger]

Just sent the email to my boss requesting the week off... next I need to start stocking provisions. SO much to do and so little time. Wonder what time I should gett to the store to camp out ... I didn't pre-order :(
I DID pre-order and I still plan to get up at 5AM and wait in the parking lot for the store to open.

[Scorch_Hellfire]

wee hee... i cant wait... too bad i cant play it until after christmas break... cuz thats when im getting my computer... and so... maybe that little delay will make it so i will come in after blizz makes its initial changes to everything... i guess its time for me to pre-order my ce from amazon... luckily i got a 50 dollar gift certificate from my uncle last christmas and ive been saving it for just such an occasion... thusly, ill only have to pay $30 for my collectors edition... plus ill get free shipping cuz of amazons super saver shipping thing... oh yeah!... kick ***... :drool:

[Xinhuan]

The release date didn't come as a surprise to me.

Some people have already noted that at the bottom left hand corner of the login screen of the Open Beta client, it says Version 1.0.1 after they installed it. It is a BIG BIG hint that the game could have already went gold then.

[Hydro]

Just sent the email to my boss requesting the week off... next I need to start stocking provisions. SO much to do and so little time. Wonder what time I should gett to the store to camp out ... I didn't pre-order :(

X + ((A+(O-F)) * 2) / (O+A) = T
Where X is the time your store closes, A is the number of people in your town below the age of 22, O is the number of people in your town above the age of 22, F is the number of people above 22 who are not gamers.
If your store closes at Midnight, you have 5000 people under 22 in your town, 19000 over 22, 18000 approximately who dont game, you end up with
12 + ((5000 + (19000 - 18000) * 2) / (5000+19000) =
12 + (12000 / 24000) =
12 + .5 = 12.5 =
You should be at your store at approximately 12:30 AM.

[Vantorax]

So what's the exclusive "in-game" pet that buyers of the Collector's Edition are supposed to get? Anything useful or just for show?

[Dooplanger]

X + ((A+(O-F)) * 2) / (O+A) = T
Where X is the time your store closes, A is the number of people in your town below the age of 22, O is the number of people in your town above the age of 22, F is the number of people above 22 who are not gamers.
If your store closes at Midnight, you have 5000 people under 22 in your town, 19000 over 22, 18000 approximately who dont game, you end up with
12 + ((5000 + (19000 - 18000) * 2) / (5000+19000) =
12 + (12000 / 24000) =
12 + .5 = 12.5 =
You should be at your store at approximately 12:30 AM.
Wow, I think your brain needs to be studied, can it be fixed or is it genetic? :D

[Dooplanger]

So what's the exclusive "in-game" pet that buyers of the Collector's Edition are supposed to get? Anything useful or just for show?
Im sure its just for show, giving people a starting advantage because they pay 30 bucks more isnt going to help their rep.

[GAK]

That date sucks for me, I start seven days of swing shift & won't be able to play much till Thanksgiving. :grrr:

[Yield]

Hm, gives us a full week to mess around with Half Life 2 before WoW comes out.
Cheers!

[Vantorax]

Im sure its just for show, giving people a starting advantage because they pay 30 bucks more isnt going to help their rep.

Well, beta testers of "City Of Heroes" ended up with a small run buff spell when the game went retail.

[Dooplanger]

Well, beta testers of "City Of Heroes" ended up with a small run buff spell when the game went retail.
Paying $30 more for the CE and working to help make the game ready for retail are two different things.

[Vantorax]

My point was that small advantages is possible. Doesn't matter what made you deserve it. So I still wonder what that exclusive in-game pet is and if it has any purpose.

[Vaporwolf]

Well, beta testers of "City Of Heroes" ended up with a small run buff spell when the game went retail.

In City of Heroes what you got with pre-order was simply a different particle effect for a run buff that was essentially the same as what the regular run buff that every character started off with.

Judging from the list of possible pets that came up with the original question posted by blizzard about what it would be we could see anything from a Zergling to a mechanical pandarian. :) Hopefully there will be a choice of a few different kinds.

But it will probably act just like the snakes, cats, parrots and such that you can buy from vendors.

[aethra]

Woot woot woot woot and dare i say it? WOOT
*does several happy dances*
*realise he lives in Europe*
DOW

[Vantorax]

If it's that, good. Easier way to spot the suckers you paid more for the same game. ;)

[Vaporwolf]

nah I paid more for the soundtrack, dvd, artbook and cloth map, plus the little cute pet. :)

If it had just been the pet or other in game thing I probably would have just gotten the normal one. ;)

[Vantorax]

Ya, I know... I'm just kidding here. :)

[Jarlo]

Very happy to hear this and great timing for me and marketing for blizz. That friday is the biggest shopping day in the US so what better to have than a shiny new uber game on the shelf just in time 8)

What a great time to be a gamer.. H2, WoW this is just too good.

I need to look at my time bank and see if I can sneak some days off around that time 8)

[Ifrit18]

Look at the stability of WoW. Server capcitiy HIGH! Yet, no ground-breaking lag.

EQ2 is not ready for launch by any means. Mainly stuff not working properly and incomplete systems. Their launch is going to be a bad day. They didn't do a stress test and clueless to how much their servers can handle the load.

[dubious]

ahhh perfect i cant believe it !!! its going to be released right after most of my assingments/essays/tests are due :p im soo happy :D

[Dooplanger]

My point was that small advantages is possible. Doesn't matter what made you deserve it. So I still wonder what that exclusive in-game pet is and if it has any purpose.
My point was that, from what I can remember no one has ever been given an advantage for buying a CE for any MMORPG, why would WoW be any different(and by CE I dont mean Pre-order, not even SOE would give players an advantage for paying more for the CE and they are the most likely to do so)? As for the in-game pet, I dont think I whole lot has been said about it but I personally want a zergling :D.

[Lyanna]

:clap: :clap: I am ecstatic!

[Dooplanger]

Look at the stability of WoW. Server capcitiy HIGH! Yet, no ground-breaking lag.

EQ2 is not ready for launch by any means. Mainly stuff not working properly and incomplete systems. Their launch is going to be a bad day. They didn't do a stress test and clueless to how much their servers can handle the load.
last I checked all SOE MMORPGs have been like this. If you dont count planetside then the only MMORPG SOE has ever created is SWG, and we all know how that turned out.

[Ifrit18]

Also checked which games seem to be in higher demand, WoW appears to be beating EQ2 3 to 1 :).

Say there is 1,000 people interested in EQ2, it seems to be 3,000 more people interested in WoW.

Been paying attention to polls and wish lists, I see a pattern.

[Hylo]

Just the little fact that they full well knew ahead of time exactly when they were going to have the game released and said "There is no official release date at this time" just two days prior to the CB ending. This was in response to the forum being spammed with "Nov 22nd is release" and the article with the Vivendi president.


*sniff* *sniff*

Yep smells like troll.

Given that you don't work for Blizzard, you don't have a clue what they knew or didn't know.

I for one am GRATEFUL Blizzard doesn't make promises it can't keep. I am thrilled they don't say something without meaning it. I couldn't be happier that I can count on them to deliver what they say they will.

Add my wooohooo to the others. And I encourage you to play EQ2.

-Hylo

[Dooplanger]

Also checked which games seem to be in higher demand, WoW appears to be beating EQ2 3 to 1 :).

Say there is 1,000 people interested in EQ2, it seems to be 3,000 more people interested in WoW.

Been paying attention to polls and wish lists, I see a pattern.
There was a WoW vs EQ2 poll before on one of these big gamer network. WoW was leading like 3 to 1 and if you read the poll discussion forum you will find EQ2 fanbois saying that b.net hackers must be cheating to make their vote count more which really just cracks me up.

[Arioch]

On the subject of "buying" an advantage, wasn't EQ or UO considering allowing you to "buy" in-game currency from them with real money, sort of as a way to horn in on eBay trading of stuff? Did they ever do that?

[Ifrit18]

UO allows you to pay for with RL money:

UO power-up chars. Half-decent designed chars.
Character transfer to different servers
UO name change

$30 for each service :P.

They even had a service to promote in-game weddings or events for $40 at one point. Its now discontinued.

[Dooplanger]

UO allows you to pay for with RL money:

UO power-up chars. Half-decent designed chars.
Character transfer to different servers
UO name change

$30 for each service :P.

They even had a service to promote in-game weddings or events for $40 at one point. Its now discontinued.
lol and I thought SOE was the best at milking their MMORPGs.

[red.13]

Im thinking - when the game will be at shelves in €? Or, when it will be available to pre order in my conutry? Huh, I hope that during Nov-Dec-Jan you (I mean USA/Canada/. . . ) players will make this game better, I hope (I know I said this) :hanky:

[Ifrit18]

Yeah, UO's customer service is the worst. GMs in UO are now banning people that are innocent.

The sooner WoW comes, the more joy I will get when I hit UO subscription cancelled.

[OneMadOgre]

*sniff* *sniff*

Yep smells like troll.

Given that you don't work for Blizzard, you don't have a clue what they knew or didn't know.

I for one am GRATEFUL Blizzard doesn't make promises it can't keep. I am thrilled they don't say something without meaning it. I couldn't be happier that I can count on them to deliver what they say they will.

Add my wooohooo to the others. And I encourage you to play EQ2.

-Hylo
To be fair. Blizzard is not always good on delivering what they want either. Might I remind you of....

"The Portal Opens in 2003"

[Cursive]

Would someone get mad if I spammed this thread with w00t messages? Not that I would ever do something like that..... seriously, I won't.... just this little one

w00t w00t w00t w00t w00t w00t w00t w00t w00t w00t w00t w00t w00t w00t w00t w00t

[Backdoor Bandit]

Finally no more theories about possible release dates. Thats definately great news. I hope that people wont immediately begin criticising whats still missing in the game. just be happy :clap:

[pimpmaster1000]

I have two questions

1.If u pre-ordered WOW can u pick it up on NOV.22?
2.Do u have to pay money every month just to play WOW?If u do that sucks

[Jedi_Bob]

I need to go change my pants. I can't wait to lay out that cloth map and drool all over myself! What? It comes with a game? Oh yeah! :lol:

I can't wait!!!!!!!1one

[Solaquin]

Hey! I called it, I called it, woo! :) See the most recent thread where we were all pitching our guesses in about when the game would release, my guess was 23 November. :D

Hydro, it's not too late to preorder, I did mine today.

[Squarebob Spongepants]

2.Do u have to pay money every month just to play WOW?If u do that sucks
Yes.

_______________________________

The game is ready for lunch.

[Pricyber]

I must say I am disappointed. $15 is a steep price to start at per month. $12.95 would have been more realistic and then rise from there.

To top that off the game is retailing for $49.99 when all the MMORPG's I've seen debut were at $39.99. Blizzard is generally expensive at retailing though. I remember when expansion sets cost $39.99 when they generally start at $29.99 for other games.

Oh well.

[Dooplanger]

I must say I am disappointed. $15 is a steep price to start at per month. $12.95 would have been more realistic and then rise from there.

To top that off the game is retailing for $49.99 when all the MMORPG's I've seen debut were at $39.99. Blizzard is generally expensive at retailing though. I remember when expansion sets cost $39.99 when they generally start at $29.99 for other games.

Oh well.
What was the last MMORPG youve played? $15 a month and $49.99 retail has turned into the MMORPG standard within the last 1-2 years.

[MegaLing]

i have to say 15 dollars a month is quite alot. plus the 50 dollar for the game.

[sirius266]

I just hope the game arrives on time in SIngapore with the game cards...If they aren't selling game cards in SG...bye bye WOW...

[Dooplanger]

i have to say 15 dollars a month is quite alot. plus the 50 dollar for the game.
50 cents a day? thats like what 5 minutes of work a day?

[LordGex]

If you only want to pay 12 dollars a month you can. They are setting up a sliding scale of payment it seems.

After the initial free one-month subscription ends, players of World of Warcraft will be able to continue playing under one of three different subscription plans. The month-to-month subscription plan costs $14.99 per month, the three-month plan costs $13.99 per month, and the six-month plan costs $12.99 per month. World of Warcraft subscription fees can be paid by major credit card, PayPal, and pre-paid game cards, which will be available in stores where World of Warcraft is sold.

You just have to be willing to play longer :-)

[Ifrit18]

$15 bucks a month is nothing.

[Syndakit]

i told you guys... Tuesdays!!!

Ya, I remember you saying that on a previous "whats the release date" thread.In fact, I think you were the one who said the 23th...or did you say the 16th? Why do they do that anyways? GTA was released on a tuesday as well.....

[Fuske]

Just sent the email to my boss requesting the week off... next I need to start stocking provisions. SO much to do and so little time. Wonder what time I should gett to the store to camp out ... I didn't pre-order :(

:buddies: Well I'm not sure you should do that. I would suggest like taking ur off on the first week of December. You might get shipping delays , over-whelming orders , Server going up n down due to massive influx of players...

[Black Knight84]

Just sent the email to my boss requesting the week off... next I need to start stocking provisions. SO much to do and so little time. Wonder what time I should gett to the store to camp out ... I didn't pre-order :(

LOL!! What was your excuse? :lol:

-BK84

[Felicia]

Once Open Beta comes, I'll determine whether or not the cost of purchasing the game, as well as the steep monthly fee is worth it. If the game still feels like it did back when the earlier stress test began and ended, then, this game probably isn't worth it, yet.

[stacker55]

steep monthly fee's? every MMO for the past few years that has been worth anything has had a montly fee of around 14 dollars. in my opinion this is the best game i've ever seen, it beat out ocarina of time, but then again i didnt have to pay for ocarina of time......oo they need to make a zelda MMO lol...ahhhh release come quicker

[Gill_105]

I DID pre-order and I still plan to get up at 5AM and wait in the parking lot for the store to open.

Absolutely, I did too ...

However, here in Australia it is not here until Dec 15th.

:rant:

[Felicia]

steep monthly fee's? every MMO for the past few years that has been worth anything has had a montly fee of around 14 dollars. in my opinion this is the best game i've ever seen, it beat out ocarina of time, but then again i didnt have to pay for ocarina of time......oo they need to make a zelda MMO lol...ahhhh release come quicker

Please name five games that are currently out now, that require a 15 dollar monthly fee.

[Unreg!stered]

Please name five games that are currently out now, that require a 15 dollar monthly fee.

I can name three: EQ2, SWG, and CoH. All released within the past year, year and a half. $15 is sadly becoming the norm.

Edit: WoW, that's four. :D

[Etra]

Ragnarok Online used to cost $15 a month (using one of the certain pay methods since it used to cost them money to use it) at one time. Theres your 5. :x

Yay for release on the day I don't have work and no school the next day!!! <3

[Rizzice]

Wait, this is for retail? If so.. that means open beta was less than 3 weeks? -.-

[Felicia]

That's not five, that's two games. My question asked about current games, which meant games that are currently live and being paid by players. Only Star Wars Galaxies and City of Heroes actually cost $15 per month. And, as a note, games that cost less than that currently have higher number of users than those two games.

One thing developers of MMOs need to realize when trying to get a large casual gamer base is that cost is a very important factor. If its too much, they won't buy it, it's that simple. Fifteen bucks can be saved and in two months, a person has enough money to buy a new GBA game, or even a bargain bin console or PC game. Fifteen bucks can be used to buy a new CD, pay an ISP bill, buy dinner, rent three movies or games, purchase ticket to the theatres, or can pay for 5 PPV showings of currently released movies. Fifteen bucks can buy a lot. The question is, whether or not those fifteen bucks are well-spent or not. If WoW cannot live up to monthly cost and a quality equal to or greater than many high-quality titles/products that are cheaper to purchase than WoW's initial plus monthly fee. Then, those fifteen bucks are simply not worth it. It's especially important to realize that, if gamers can get the same high-quality experience they get out of WoW from another game, that has a cheaper monthly fee, they will go for it. Granted, there aren't many MMO's that deserve being called high-quality. But you gotta ask, will players with level 70+ characters in FFXI with a $13 monthly fee, a recent expansion and incredibly tuned (despite its high monotony) balance in its slew of classes and characters would want to ditch all that for a game whose quality is questionable at this point, balance is extremely off-centered, and whose monthly fee is much greater than FFXI's?

Of the 70 million gamers worldwide, less than 6% pay to play online games. Of that less than 6% niche, is it possible for WoW to compete is the oft-failing, highly competitive MMO environment, when there is are games that are far more polished than what WoW currently has? And are cheaper to play? That is the most important question. Whether or not the high monthly fee of WoW is worth it.

[Tevush Kasht]

The higher number of users is not because of the high fee. For SWG, it's because that game is a piece of crap. For COH, it's because that game lacks content and get highly repetitive and boring about 2-4 weeks after you start (We started off in COH with an entire supergroup of 50 people I knew irl, of those people, only 2 I know still play it, the rest of us have all quit).
Most gamers don't care if it's 14 $ or 15 $, well, they may care but they will still play.
If you want to see true greed, I suggest you take a look at Magic The Gathering Online's pricing schemes.

[RavenFirecaster]

Of the 70 million gamers worldwide, less than 6% pay to play online games. Of that less than 6% niche, is it possible for WoW to compete is the oft-failing, highly competitive MMO environment, when there is are games that are far more polished than what WoW currently has? And are cheaper to play? That is the most important question. Whether or not the high monthly fee of WoW is worth it.
Wait until mid-2005ish and we'll see how ArenaNet's gamble pays off with Guild Wars. (no monthly fee to play)

If you want to see true greed, I suggest you take a look at Magic The Gathering Online's pricing schemes.
Eish, don't remind me. The wife and I invested a combined $100 into that game during the first couple months, then got bored of it. Can't even hold the cards in our hands and use them with our IRL decks. :(

[Squarebob Spongepants]

One thing developers of MMOs need to realize when trying to get a large casual gamer base is that cost is a very important factor. If its too much, they won't buy it, it's that simple. Fifteen bucks can be saved and in two months, a person has enough money to buy a new GBA game, or even a bargain bin console or PC game. Fifteen bucks can be used to buy a new CD, pay an ISP bill, buy dinner, rent three movies or games, purchase ticket to the theatres, or can pay for 5 PPV showings of currently released movies. Fifteen bucks can buy a lot. The question is, whether or not those fifteen bucks are well-spent or not. If WoW cannot live up to monthly cost and a quality equal to or greater than many high-quality titles/products that are cheaper to purchase than WoW's initial plus monthly fee. Then, those fifteen bucks are simply not worth it.
You almost make it sound like it's $15 every time you log on to play rather than $15 per month :uhhuh:

_______________________________

The game is ready for lunch.

[Shaggy]

i am not concerned, i think its a joke when he say "Blizzard" and "Unpolished" in the same sentence.