European Final Beta Arriving This Wednesday, December 1st!

[silkfire]

That's what's said on the main site. Guys, I come from Sweden, so I understand a bit danish, but I can check som Danish sites if this is true. To me it is!!!!

Come on, post your thoughts about this, folks!

[Los Sin Nombre]

I believe when I see it on Official site.

So far I have read from equally "reliable" sources that EU Beta starts 26.11, 29.11, 1.12, 15.12...

[Fagercraft]

you better stop dreaming mate.

blizzard.com - no suchnews
en.wow-europe.com - no such news
www.worldofwarcraft.com - n such news

I'm from sweden to btw, and what does this all got to do with som danish sites?

or is there some more official site i dont know of?

and im assuming your talking about open beta for europeans...

[zingfharn]

Define 'main site'
Not to be ******ed, or anything (and I would very much love to be proved wrong), but it says nothing on the wow-europe.com site that I can see.
Hah. Although I did just select 'korean' as my language. Apparently, I am the Wowzer.
w00ty w00t w00t.

[SiGiN]

yeah, right. How about some link to that "what's said on the main site"?

[Tengu]

It'd sure be sweet.. but it ain't all that likely. The store from where I pre-ordered the pre-order kit (and all the other stores I visited) did say that it'd start tomorrow.. But we'll just have to cross our fingers and wait..











plzplzplzplzplzplzplzplzplzplzplz start1!!!1!one :p

[s12demon]

Crosses fingers, toes and eyes... I hope it will too bad it got loads of uni work to do so wont be able to play till the weekend anyway

anyone know if by 'following friday' they mean 3rd dec?

[silkfire]

Define 'main site'
Not to be ******ed, or anything (and I would very much love to be proved wrong), but it says nothing on the wow-europe.com site that I can see.
With 'main site', i mean the main site of these WoW forums, i.e. www.worldofwar.net

See for yourselves under "Eu Beta Kit".

P.S I didn't find any Danish WoW sites...

[thalbr]

Until Blizzard releases any info, it's just another rumour. Although it certainly seems possible.

[Korlak]

We'll find out if you can download the Client tomorrow then.

[hoekpoot]

The sign-up will be open for 1 or 2 days, dont worry, everybody will be in if he/she wants to...

[Squarebob Spongepants]

It's just another rumor.

EU Beta Kit Update Rush 15:40:PST

faun sends word that 'reliable' sources in Denmark are sating that purchasers of the Beta kit will be able to download the client this Wednesday, December 1st and the beta should start the following Friday.

---
They say 'reliable'. That right there tells me that's it's not official news, just rumor. These sources could very well be talking out of their, uhm, 'exhausts'. We'll know for sure tomorrow.

[Fishstick]

Sounds like a clear case of rectal cranial inversion.

[Korlak]

Still, they wouldn't post any 'reliable' news, now would they?

If I said that the Beta will start March 2005, I don't think that would be noted.

[Harbid]

Well....i germany, they said the Open Bea would start within the next two weeks...so i guess we should prepare ourself for a Beta-Start in Mid-December....hope i'm wrong though!

[Hypothraxer]

3D Realms has a nice text about those "reliable" shop sources. It's about Duke Nukem 3D but you can just replace the word 'game' with 'wow final beta':

The release date of this game is "When it's done". Anything else, and we mean anything else is someone's speculation. There is no date. We don't know any date. If you have a friend who claims they have "inside info", or there's some game news site, or some computer store at the mall who claims they know - they do not. They are making it up. There is no date. Period.

Regards
Hypo

[SiGiN]

feels like beating on dead horse, but regarding Duke Nukem, "there is" actually "no date. Period"

[Yogo]

Wow-europe's beta account creation site for CB is:
Account creation is currently disabled

They must be making it ready for EFB. I just hope it will be for tomorrow! :p :drool:

[DOpe-Head]

www.wowi.dk they have a link to this place http://gamersplace.dk/news/?n=962 and they say that u can start downoading the WoW installer 1.dec and then the beta opens at 3.dec so u have 2 days to download tha game.
And a reason that Blizzard have not postet anything about this could be because they do i 1 dec.... some sort of happy december :surprise: :surprise:

[SiGiN]

*update* Dette er et rygte og der tages derfor forbehold for sandheden..


What does that mean?

[Squarebob Spongepants]

They're saying that it's a rumor.

_______________________________

Slowly but steadily going for 2000+ posts :D

[SpanGi]

*update* Dette er et rygte og der tages derfor forbehold for sandheden..


What does that mean?
Hooray for the clever danes at http://www.wowi.dk . Oh well, it means:
"This is a rumor, and therefore the truth should be taken into consideration". Not that it makes any sense really, but they probably just want to get rid of the "Where's the official source?" etc questions. :uhhuh:

Still, I really hope it's true. Maybe they just misunderstood that the EFB would begin December, and though "Hey, that's the start of December! Hooray!"

[DOpe-Head]

Originally Posted by SiGiN
*update* Dette er et rygte og der tages derfor forbehold for sandheden..
*update* This is a rumor and because of that its not 100% sure

[Yogo]

I'm still thinking that it will start 1st December as a sort of Christmas "gift" from Blizzard Europe. My only proof is the account creation being down :)

[zingfharn]

Also, the european forums have been MIGHTY quiet today.

[Squarebob Spongepants]

Aren't they always? :scratch:

Of course they are. That's nothing out of the ordinary :lol:

_______________________________

Slowly but steadily going for 2000+ posts :D

[Singu]

Come on, post your thoughts about this, folks!

My thoughts? Don't hold your breath. And please change the title to 'EU final beta release rumour'.

They haven't even been able to whip up a community manager for the english speaking europeans(the majority of the europeans in other words), and how long it takes them to plug in the new servers is anyones guess.

The last official information was that they're still sending out closed beta keys, and that was dated 24. november.

[me4hegemon]

can us players participate in the euro beta?

cause i know a bunch of my euro friends who played the us open beta....i would like to join them in the euro beta, is there a way i can? someone said something about chaing a realmsomething file in the wow folder so allow me to see euro servers

[SpanGi]

can us players participate in the euro beta?
Buy retail, and no.. you can't get into the beta. Localized servers etc. Maybe through a lot of strange things with proxy, but.. no. Sorry.

[Laen]

My finnish retailer told the same thing to me too. That by the end of this week the final beta would start. I consider him a 'reliable source' :) Never been wrong and has always kept his promises.

[MortalWombat]

Feast your hungry eyes on even more "reliable news"!!! :spy:
This Danish retailer:
http://www.billigespil.dk/shop/default.asp?setlng=1
is getting more Preorder Kits around December 10th, which could imply that Final Beta will not start before that.
For me, mid-December sounds very likely, but as we've seen it over and over again, Blizz might not be in da moood :grrr:

[faun]

Hehe, didn't think they'd post this unsubstansiated rumour! :D Although the writer from gamerspalace states that it is someone with insiderknowledge from blizz. :lol:

Oh well, eventhough it's just a rumour I would still like to believe it! ;)

*Crosses his fingers*

[Tengu]

Let's start counting;

Provided the forum clock ain't screwed for me, the time is now...


03:02


We got a lil' under 9 hours till we can start stalking www.wow-europe.com :drool:

[SiGiN]

there is even no need to stalk -
just use this http://www.aignes.com/ (Website Watcher - very handy, but not free, but have some time to trial), and put autocheck on en.wow-europe.com and http://www.blizzard-europe.com/ and put some LOUD sound as an action alarm - and not miss something new. Even when asleep or takin bath =)

on a side note, I am bit disapointed.. I already put some money into buying game, and it stated that "Beta will start in December" in this "preorder beta kit".. Its December (well - almost) already, and no news =) I can wait for game, but I am very curious about whats going on. And Blizzard is silent as dead fish.

[Lord-Azrael]

I'd probably bet aquite a bit of money that it's not going to be on the 1st.
More realisticly, and what I'm hoping for, is sometime Mid-December.

And say, we still had the beta client from the earlier beta, would we still have to re-download the new one? I'm not sure whether it locates where you are through the internet or through the actual game downloaded.

[Fuvane]

There is (sadly) no way to predict when Blizzard is going to release something. Now they won't even release it when it's done, but when Vivendi feel is a good time to hit the market with it :) (this was proved at the US release)

The complete lack of information from the EU Blizzard have forced me to just collect information from some retailers. There is an awful lot of retailers (EB games in Sweden and Softxchange in Denmark just as examples) that have told us that the beta will start on friday, I don't know why so many retailers would just came up with this date... maybe they all just used some random script to get it, I don't know. But why would they go public with it? To loose credability by their customers?

Yes, some stores have got some more pre-order kit and they will recieve them the 10th december. This does'nt mean that the beta can't start before that though, it simply take some time to transport the kits.

Also I really doubt that the lack of an english community manager will prevent the release of final beta. England had like... let me count them... one reseller of the pre-order kit. Oh, and they did'nt have CE.

But, I don't even think myself that the beta will start this week, although that many stores say this and I really hope it will. But some of you seem to think that it's completly impossible just beacuse Blizzard didn't say anything yet. They won't say anything before you can actually start downloading the game. Anyone still remember US ob?

[Singu]

And say, we still had the beta client from the earlier beta, would we still have to re-download the new one? I'm not sure whether it locates where you are through the internet or through the actual game downloaded.

There is not much substantial info here. From what I've gathered they seem to demand a complete new download of the 2.somewhat gigabyte file when final beta starts.

If you deleted a few files in WTF folder, and changed the connect to server info you could use US version on EU english version for the closed beta. So it seem to be technically possible at least. Maybe Blizzard want us to download the huge file of unknown reasons...

[Singu]

Also I really doubt that the lack of an english community manager will prevent the release of final beta. England had like... let me count them... one reseller of the pre-order kit. Oh, and they did'nt have CE.

Blizzard will have three (assistant?) community managers in Europe. They allready have two for France and Germany, but the english forums seem to be in stasis with little to no information at all. I can't speak for all the european countries outside french and german natural speaking ones. But my guess is that the clear majority will log on to the english site and not the french/german.

[Yogo]

Could be that they don't want 500.000 people to be able to play instantly the first day of beta launch?

[Fuvane]

Blizzard will have three (assistant?) community managers in Europe. They allready have two for France and Germany, but the english forums seem to be in stasis with little to no information at all. I can't speak for all the european countries outside french and german natural speaking ones. But my guess is that the clear majority will log on to the english site and not the french/german.

Well, they are of course looking for one (don't understand how it can take such a long time but anyway) but I don't think they will push the final beta beacuse of it.

[SadaraK]

There is not much substantial info here. From what I've gathered they seem to demand a complete new download of the 2.somewhat gigabyte file when final beta starts.

If you deleted a few files in WTF folder, and changed the connect to server info you could use US version on EU english version for the closed beta. So it seem to be technically possible at least. Maybe Blizzard want us to download the huge file of unknown reasons...

They may not really want us to but we DEFINATELY have to. I wish I could link to where I read this (somewhere on this forum) but a guy linked to an e-mail he got from blizzard on the issue and the word is that it isn't possible to use the US beta client as they are now too different to the EU client they are using.

Don't ask me why or how it works but I sware on my grandparents grave thats what the very authentic looking e-mail said.

[oper]

im the reason for the reasent disclaimer on the gamersplace.dk news about the release date being december 1.st
I sent a mail to them to veryfy the legitemacy of their information, to which they replied: the writer states his source as "det er skam ikke noget rygte, informationen kommer fra en pålidelig kilde, jeg har en ven der arbejder for Bog og Ide, og han har fået informationen fra deres spil grosist som skulle have fået den fra Blizzard, så jeg vil våge at påstå at informationen meget gerne skulle være 100 % pålidelig"

in english "it is indeed NO rumor, the information comes from a reliable source. I have a friend that works for a store (Bog og Ide), and he has gained information from their supplier, who said that he had gotten it from blizzard, so i will calim that the information should be 100% reliable"

to which i informed them that it was indeed an unreliabe rumor, since its "hear say" through 5 persons. they then edited the news. so dont get your hopes up about december 1.st

[Yogo]

im the reason for the reasent disclaimer on the gamersplace.dk news about the release date being december 1.st
I sent a mail to them to veryfy the legitemacy of their information, to which they replied: the writer states his source as "det er skam ikke noget rygte, informationen kommer fra en pålidelig kilde, jeg har en ven der arbejder for Bog og Ide, og han har fået informationen fra deres spil grosist som skulle have fået den fra Blizzard, så jeg vil våge at påstå at informationen meget gerne skulle være 100 % pålidelig"

in english "it is indeed NO rumor, the information comes from a reliable source. I have a friend that works for a store (Bog og Ide), and he has gained information from their supplier, who said that he had gotten it from blizzard, so i will calim that the information should be 100% reliable"

to which i informed them that it was indeed an unreliabe rumor, since its "hear say" through 5 persons. they then edited the news. so dont get your hopes up about december 1.st

I'm 70% sure that something will happen tomorrow due to the recent activity (or should we say, NO activity at all).

1) The servers are down now (says so on the forum by players).
2) The CB account creation site is currently disabled (I checked it myself).
3) December the 1st is tomorrow. Blizzard stated it would start in December, so I would except some kind of info now that we are entering December.

[Los Sin Nombre]

I'd probably bet aquite a bit of money that it's not going to be on the 1st.
More realisticly, and what I'm hoping for, is sometime Mid-December.


Goes majorily OT, but nice to see you again, Az. Drop by at spam thread some time.

[hoekpoot]

YOGO!
You THINK they give a PRESENT for Christmas! Do you have any IDEA how much time it cost to prepare an Open Beta? Do you? They don't plan it on the first of December cos it would LOOK nice!

(losing grip)

[hoekpoot]

What about how late will it start? European Time, USA time?

[Yogo]

YOGO!
You THINK they give a PRESENT for Christmas! Do you have any IDEA how much time it cost to prepare an Open Beta? Do you? They don't plan it on the first of December cos it would LOOK nice!

(losing grip)

Take your pill.

I do not think that it would open up on the 1st of December because it will look "nice", but because it will surprise a lot of people, who thought it would start 1-3 weeks after.
For me, that would restore a lot of faith in Blizzard again. Wouldn't it do the same for you?

[Tengu]

Take your pill.

I do not think that it would open up on the 1st of December because it will look "nice", but because it will surprise a lot of people, who thought it would start 1-3 weeks after.
For me, that would restore a lot of faith in Blizzard again. Wouldn't it do the same for you?

It'd be even better if they posted a statement on their site, saying that the beta will start 3 weeks from now, and then it'd actually start tomorrow. That'd be a really nice surprise :p

[Yogo]

Nice surprise, Yes.

Enough to keep the pissed off people at the 3 week statement? No.

At least *I* wouldn't take that as a "good" surprise. :grr:

[Yogo]

The european beta account creation site is up and running around (and a bit changed).

I tried my key, but it doesn't let me continue, though it doesn't say the key is wrong either.
So maybe we might be lucky and get a press release??? Please?!!?!? :(

[Tengu]

Nice surprise, Yes.

Enough to keep the pissed off people at the 3 week statement? No.

At least *I* wouldn't take that as a "good" surprise. :grr:

Was jokin' ;)

And they'll release it tomo... I mean today (12.12 around here) because of all the cute lil' panda pictures I e-mailed them.

"If WoW beta don't start on 1.12, I'll be a saaaad panda bear.." (http://www.pbs.org/wnet/nature/panda/images/top_pic2c.jpg)


Edit: The european beta account creation site is up and running around (and a bit changed).

I tried my key, but it doesn't let me continue, though it doesn't say the key is wrong either.
So maybe we might be lucky and get a press release??? Please?!!?!?



What the... Link? Please?

[[]Sweeper]

Gentlemen, i'm danish too , and i have also wondered about the "Reliable source" on this news that states that we should be able to download the final beta tomorrow. However , i found this on the same site. It's actually a guy asking who the source is : http://gamersplace.dk/forumtopic.asp?topicid=2688

The answer to look for , is from the guy called miNdGaMe and i will translate it , but first in danish :

Hejsa...

det er skam ikke noget rygte informationen kommer fra en pålidelig kilde, jeg har en ven der arbejder for Bog og Ide, og han har fået informationen fra deres spil grosist som skulle have fået den fra Blizzard, så jeg vil våge at påstå at informationen meget gerne skulle være 100 % pålidelig, tager jeg fejl underskylder jeg dog for det, men det skulle meget gerne være rigtigt. Jeg vil foreslå jeg at holde et vågent øje med www.wow-europe.com hvor informationen bliver offentliggjort så snart de er klar med downloaden!

What he says is that it's from a reliable source, he has a friend that works for a bookstore, and his friend got the news from the stores game supplier, who has it from blizzard... The guy goes on about him believing that it is a 100% reliable source, but also states the fact that he could be wrong, and to keep an eye on the european wow site..

Personally... i find his source to be ridiculous, of course, it could be true, but then again, so could all the other rumours that have been out the past week or two.

[Liat]

What about how late will it start? European Time, USA time?

man, it is unknown which date it will start and you are talking about the time of the start ;)

[Yogo]

Tengu: Got the site from the german forum. Someone asked why he/she/it got an error when pressing continue after typing in the beta key.

https://beta.wow-europe.com/accountcreation/menu.html

[SadaraK]

Sweeper']Gentlemen, i'm danish too , and i have also wondered about the "Reliable source" on this news that states that we should be able to download the final beta tomorrow. However , i found this on the same site. It's actually a guy asking who the source is : http://gamersplace.dk/forumtopic.asp?topicid=2688

The answer to look for , is from the guy called miNdGaMe and i will translate it , but first in danish :

Hejsa...

det er skam ikke noget rygte informationen kommer fra en pålidelig kilde, jeg har en ven der arbejder for Bog og Ide, og han har fået informationen fra deres spil grosist som skulle have fået den fra Blizzard, så jeg vil våge at påstå at informationen meget gerne skulle være 100 % pålidelig, tager jeg fejl underskylder jeg dog for det, men det skulle meget gerne være rigtigt. Jeg vil foreslå jeg at holde et vågent øje med www.wow-europe.com hvor informationen bliver offentliggjort så snart de er klar med downloaden!

What he says is that it's from a reliable source, he has a friend that works for a bookstore, and his friend got the news from the stores game supplier, who has it from blizzard... The guy goes on about him believing that it is a 100% reliable source, but also states the fact that he could be wrong, and to keep an eye on the european wow site..

Personally... i find his source to be ridiculous, of course, it could be true, but then again, so could all the other rumours that have been out the past week or two.

I can't belive a website would publish a blatent rumour like this. Yes, it may be right, but so could the 100's of other rumours flying around about dates for gods sake. The burden of proof is on the website and they have none.

[MickeD]

We will announce the closure of the European Closed Beta in time. Participants of the Closed Beta will be able to take part in the Final Beta, too.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Gungdil
Community Manager

http://en.wow-europe.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-general-en&t=17080&p=1#post17080

What they mean by "in time" is not for me to say but tomorrow seems a bit early, doesnt it?

[[]Sweeper]

I can't belive a website would publish a blatent rumour like this. Yes, it may be right, but so could the 100's of other rumours flying around about dates for gods sake. The burden of proof is on the website and they have none.


To be honest, i wrote them a rather unpolite mail earlier today. Simply because i find it very very very stupid of them to post a rumour(and yes, as long as there is no official announcement, it is imo , a rumour). They havent answered me, didn't think they would either

[Tengu]

Tengu: Got the site from the german forum. Someone asked why he/she/it got an error when pressing continue after typing in the beta key.

https://beta.wow-europe.com/accountcreation/menu.html

Woah woah woah woah woah!

You did notice that the site doesn't seem to have a root? I suggest not too many ppl enter their key! Call me paranoid...

[[]Sweeper]

Tengu: Got the site from the german forum. Someone asked why he/she/it got an error when pressing continue after typing in the beta key.

https://beta.wow-europe.com/accountcreation/menu.html

I'm thinking that this could be for closed beta... but i'll give it a try anyway :)

[Tengu]

Sweeper']I'm thinking that this could be for closed beta... but i'll give it a try anyway :)
'
Umm... so you are going to enter your beta-key, into a link taken from a unofficial german forum? The codind of the page is identical to the account creation page of the US wow site, except it's named menu[1] while all the other codes have longer topic names.. Also the typo is haunting me..


Yes I may appear paranoid, but how easy would it be to pull off a scam like this? Two people have already reported (though thru 1 person) that they entered their key and then nothing happened...

Wait till we get a post from blizz on this..

Edit: And who has ever heard of beta.wow-europe.com?

The "european singup site"
https://beta.wow-europe.com/accountcreation/menu.html

The US singup site
https://signup.worldofwarcraft.com/menu.html;jsessionid=7212708105C79D859B22EAF3997E2AD0.app04

kinda strange difference in the urls, no?

Ps. Man am I going to lose my face if I'm raving on for nothing.. but better safe than sorry :lol:

[[]Sweeper]

'
Umm... so you are going to enter your beta-key, into a link taken from a unofficial german forum? The codind of the page is identical to the account creation page of the US wow site, except it's named menu[1] while all the other codes have longer topic names.. Also the typo is haunting me..


Yes I may appear paranoid, but how easy would it be to pull off a scam like this? Two people have already reported (though thru 1 person) that they entered their key and then nothing happened...

Wait till we get a post from blizz on this..

Yeah... thought the same thing right before i put in the key... I'm waiting :)

[Tengu]

Sweeper']Yeah... thought the same thing right before i put in the key... I'm waiting :)

"Click the button below to create your World of Warcraft Beta account. Also, please note that account creation is only available for those with European Beta Test keys. Welcome to World of Warcraft!"

One catchy sentence.. Only for people who already have their beta test keys?? :lol: no way..

I still smell a rat.. :spy:

[oper]

yogo, do you have the direct link to that account creation page? cos i dont see a link anywhere.


there's nothing dodgy about the /beta.wow-europe.com/accountcreation/ page. its the official EU page. only problem is that its account creation for closed beta, not FB as is the one we're waiting for

[Mort]

People here seem to be forgetting that according to an FAQ posted a few days ago on the wow-uk forums, more beta keys will be sent out very soon:

2. Will there be more keys sent out? If yes, when?

Yes, very soon.

What I am wondering si, assuming that the rumors are true, and the final beta will indeed begin by the end of the week, why will Blizzard send out more beta keys? One would think that with all those who have "bought" the pre-order kits, they should have all the beta testers they need.

This leads me to think that we are looking at three possible scenarios:

- Either Caswallawn at the WoW-UK forums is pulling our collective legs, and the "yes, very soon" remark was just to throw us of track for the fact that the final beta begins soon.

- There is no truth to the rumors, and the final-beta will not begin for some time. Instead blizzard will be sending out more beta-invites soon.

- Or they will both start the final beta and send out more beta keys. It has never been said that only closed beta testers and people with pre-order kits could participate in the final beta, and blizzard may indeed want to send out more beta e-mails once it starts (or maybe a short time later).

But I guess we will all find out tomorrow, so we'll see.

[Tengu]

yogo, do you have the direct link to that account creation page? cos i dont see a liink anywhere

You should wait. Wait until we see a statement by blizz declaring the opening.

[hoekpoot]

You mean the USA account creation is online...

[Tengu]

You mean the USA account creation is online...

According to this site (https://beta.wow-europe.com/accountcreation/menu.html), the EU account creation site is online. But, as you will see, if you bother to read my previous ravings, one might not want to try to sing up just yet.. There's something fishy about this... :scratch:

[SadaraK]

According to this site (https://beta.wow-europe.com/accountcreation/menu.html), the EU account creation site is online. But, as you will see, if you bother to read my previous ravings, one might not want to try to sing up just yet.. There's something fishy about this... :scratch:

If it is a ploy to get beta keys it's a bloody clever one...I think what is more likley is someone has stumbled across the site Blizz is currently setting up for the sign ups. Which at the very least means they will be very soon...(god I wish I had my beta key, bloody stupis arse slow game maailing sodding post office gits)

[[]Sweeper]

According to this site (https://beta.wow-europe.com/accountcreation/menu.html), the EU account creation site is online. But, as you will see, if you bother to read my previous ravings, one might not want to try to sing up just yet.. There's something fishy about this... :scratch:

Tengu, i think you might be wrong... I got suspicious, so i thought i'd try and have a looksee at the two sites... Found ip for https://beta.wow-europe.com/accountcreation/menu.html first, and next i found the ip for http://en.wow-europe.com/ which is the official wow beta site... same ip bar the last two prefixes. that means that it is the same site.

[Squarebob Spongepants]

Those of you who use Firefox may be getting a window that says that Firefox cannot verify the website's certificate.

_______________________________

Slowly but steadily going for 2000+ posts :D

[SadaraK]

Sweeper']Tengu, i think you might be wrong... I got suspicious, so i thought i'd try and have a looksee at the two sites... Found ip for https://beta.wow-europe.com/accountcreation/menu.html first, and next i found the ip for http://en.wow-europe.com/ which is the official wow beta site... same ip bar the last two prefixes. that means that it is the same site.

Which means the likely answer is the one I proposed. I do hope sign ups start tonight, but I think its more likley they will start in a few days after they get everything working peoperly. Still, this means that they are much closer to going live with the FB than we hoped :)

[SpanGi]

Sweeper']Tengu, i think you might be wrong... I got suspicious, so i thought i'd try and have a looksee at the two sites... Found ip for https://beta.wow-europe.com/accountcreation/menu.html first, and next i found the ip for http://en.wow-europe.com/ which is the official wow beta site... same ip bar the last two prefixes. that means that it is the same site.
Do I dare to signup now? Hmm.. :scratch:

[chiryuu]

According to this site (https://beta.wow-europe.com/accountcreation/menu.html), the EU account creation site is online. But, as you will see, if you bother to read my previous ravings, one might not want to try to sing up just yet.. There's something fishy about this... :scratch:

I agree. Call me paranoid too, but there are small differences in the html code between this site and the main site, such as the main site using upper case for tags etc. This might just be the case of the main site using a publishing system and the account creation page being handcoded, but anyways... :scratch:

I'll wait untill blizzard says go on the main site :thumbsup:

[[]Sweeper]

Which means the likely answer is the one I proposed. I do hope sign ups start tonight, but I think its more likley they will start in a few days after they get everything working peoperly. Still, this means that they are much closer to going live with the FB than we hoped :)

I agree... either the site itself or the old signup site from the earlier closed beta

[SadaraK]

Do I dare to signup now? Hmm.. :scratch:

I wouldn't. Even if you do sign up it won't make any difference as you will need the client to play AND you won't even know whether you really have an account, which will likley make you paraniod. It's much better to wait, it won't do any harm.

[Tengu]

Sweeper']Tengu, i think you might be wrong... I got suspicious, so i thought i'd try and have a looksee at the two sites... Found ip for https://beta.wow-europe.com/accountcreation/menu.html first, and next i found the ip for http://en.wow-europe.com/ which is the official wow beta site... same ip bar the last two prefixes. that means that it is the same site.

Yea I know there is a good enough possibility that I'm wrong.. But I'm willing to take my chance with that. It could be that they are still working on updating the site, but there are still some fishy things in it.. First of all, the fact that they are saying that only the ones with the Pre-order code will be able to dl it.. Whazzup with that? Strange enough..

Second, the fact that the coding of the page is identical to that of the US account creation page, save for the few differences visible on the screen, and a few differences in the coding.. Really small differences though.. But I'd still try not to use the site until blizz gives the mark and the link.

Edit: I'm happy to see that people believe my paranoid ramblings... even though I might be completely off the hook :D I just don't want to see anyone from these forums lose their key..

[Squarebob Spongepants]

I'm not signing up until there's an official announcement.

_______________________________

Slowly but steadily going for 2000+ posts :D

[chiryuu]

Sweeper']Tengu, i think you might be wrong... I got suspicious, so i thought i'd try and have a looksee at the two sites... Found ip for https://beta.wow-europe.com/accountcreation/menu.html first, and next i found the ip for http://en.wow-europe.com/ which is the official wow beta site... same ip bar the last two prefixes. that means that it is the same site.

Ah crap, just when i had the x-files tune going nicely in my head :)

[SpanGi]

Hmm, doesn't work yet though.. seems like authentication-code page reloads when you press Continue :S Strange..

[Tano]

My thoughts? Don't hold your breath. And please change the title to 'EU final beta release rumour'.

They haven't even been able to whip up a community manager for the english speaking europeans(the majority of the europeans in other words), and how long it takes them to plug in the new servers is anyones guess.

The last official information was that they're still sending out closed beta keys, and that was dated 24. november.

the preorder beta would be the same thing as the closed beta if they opened it now..
That have nothing to do with a english community manager.. there havent been one during closed beta
and will not be one now...

furthermore, yes they hand out closed beta keys..

[SadaraK]

Yea I know there is a good enough possibility that I'm wrong.. But I'm willing to take my chance with that. It could be that they are still working on updating the site, but there are still some fishy things in it.. First of all, the fact that they are saying that only the ones with the Pre-order code will be able to dl it.. Whazzup with that? Strange enough..

Second, the fact that the coding of the page is identical to that of the US account creation page, save for the few differences visible on the screen, and a few differences in the coding.. Really small differences though.. But I'd still try not to use the site until blizz gives the mark and the link.

Edit: I'm happy to see that people believe my paranoid ramblings... even though I might be completely off the hook :D I just don't want to see anyone from these forums lose their key..

Firstly, I agree that people should wait, but I think you have a few things wrong.

Nowhere does the page say anything about downloading, it's only for account creation, which makes sense as noone without the beta key could get in anyway. Secondly, even if that was the case (which the site does say anywhere) saying only people with the key could download would make sense to stop overpopulation early on, trickling people in instead of a massive rush.

Oh, and if your were constructing a sign up page and already had a perfect one ready made, what would you do?

[SenatorToT]

The formular is send to the same html-file where you entered the key, so that is why there is no key processing and you see the same site.

[Tengu]

Firstly, I agree that people should wait, but I think you have a few things wrong.

Nowhere does the page say anything about downloading, it's only for account creation, which makes sense as noone without the beta key could get in anyway. Secondly, even if that was the case (which the site does say anywhere) saying only people with the key could download would make sense to stop overpopulation early on, trickling people in instead of a massive rush.

Oh, and if your were constructing a sign up page and already had a perfect one ready made, what would you do?

I would make a perfect copy of the one I had and not add in lil' mistakes like typos and extra linechanges...

I gotta go catch some sleep now.. I hope this all will be cleared up tomorrow.

[SpanGi]

The formular is send to the same html-file where you entered the key, so that is why there is no key processing and you see the same site.
Make 'em change it.. make 'em CHANGE it .. argh :D

[hoekpoot]

DAMN! I only ordered the retail version of WoW, you must buy the Open beta, you can't download it with a key just given to you on the site?!

What a crap! NO!!! Can't play the Open Beta!

[zingfharn]

Sweeper']Tengu, i think you might be wrong... I got suspicious, so i thought i'd try and have a looksee at the two sites... Found ip for https://beta.wow-europe.com/accountcreation/menu.html first, and next i found the ip for http://en.wow-europe.com/ which is the official wow beta site... same ip bar the last two prefixes. that means that it is the same site.
What? Do you know anything about networks? No? I thought not.
Just because they're in the same class C does not even begin to mean that they're the same network. You're describing a class B, though, and that's not the case.
The fact that they're using wow-europe.com means that it's legit, though. I can't believe how rabid you lot are getting. Calm down.

[Tengu]

What? Do you know anything about networks? No? I thought not.
Just because they're in the same class C does not even begin to mean that they're the same network, you dip****.
Sorry, but that had to be said.
The fact that they're using wow-europe.com means that it's legit, though. I can't believe how rabid you lot are getting. Calm down.

Can't-calm-down-must-ramble-on-and-reveal-the-conspiracy...!

[SadaraK]

DAMN! I only ordered the retail version of WoW, you must buy the Open beta, you can't download it with a key just given to you on the site?!

What a crap! NO!!! Can't play the Open Beta!

What on earth are you on about? If you pre-ordered the game you get a beta key to play the open beta, which will be able to be downloaded.

[zingfharn]

I mean, you guys saw this, right?
http://en.wow-europe.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-general-en&t=19432&p=1#post19432
Since gameplay are the 'official partners' I'd say that they're the ones in the know, if anyone.

[Singu]

the preorder beta would be the same thing as the closed beta if they opened it now..
That have nothing to do with a english community manager.. there havent been one during closed beta
and will not be one now...

furthermore, yes they hand out closed beta keys..

Why, of course it would be the same. But it would obviously be called 'final beta' since that's what it says in nifty words all over the place.

It has all to do with a community manager, or a responsible person to help people out in the general EU-english forum. It will be at least a tenfold increase in posts after the final beta opens, and if they haven't got a person in there they might as well shut the forum down all together. How do you know that there won't be an EU-english community manager now? Are you sitting in Paris Blizzard HQ and writing this? I payed money to get in the beta, i demand a minimum level of attention to defend my purchase and belief in this product. Talk about regional located support...

Zum glück verstehe ich eine minimum Deutch, so vieleicht kriege ich ein par antworten von meine fragen in die Deutches forum wenn die 'Final Beta' kriegt an.

edit, Incidently I live in Norway. We have no Nordic servers available, and with the packetloss and lousy connection to France and UK I might as well play on US servers since I at least will be able to both get support and normal gameplay on their servers. Tested and proven in Open Beta.

[DeltaWorld]

Its 5:41 GMT here and still no change on the http://en.wow-europe.com/ website.

I think it'll be Mid-December

[Singu]

What's new? Not much. Blizzard Europe still seeking jobs for working @ Paris. Yesterday they posted for new positions at the german wow site, http://de.wow-europe.com .

In other news the lack of a community manager in eu-english (http://en.wow-europe.com/board.aspx?forumName=wow-general-en), and a creative guy, has led to an invasion of Anonymous posters regged with the old US OB key. They can install the beta and probably patch up and create characters. But upon entering the server they're automaticly disconnected. I wonder how long it takes before Blizzard Europe are even aware of this situation. With the attention to the eu-en forum it could take a while...

In conclusion it seems like there is either a desperate lack of talented people in Europe, or a lack of bi and tri linguistical people with relevant skills. Or finally a lack of people with above skills willing to move to Paris. Somehow I think it's the last one, and the fact that they should've put the office on the Brittish Isles, Stockholm where they allready have an egagement with Telia from D2 and WC3 server or even Geneva. Since the common requirement for all positions @ Blizzard Europe, very good english skills, is absolutely lacking in Paris. Probably the most backwards capitol in Europe in regards to english language skills. I smell french based Vivendi Universal tampering with the localization process of Blizzard Europe. :rant: So much for game studios autonomy under giant corporations like VU Games. Because any sane executive @ Irvine HQ must have wished, for practical reasons, to locate the euro office at a bettter location than Paris.

Bon Voyage Blizzard Europe. I will be @ a US server come EU retail.

[herekleitos]

Bon Voyage Blizzard Europe. I will be @ a US server come EU retail.

Hear that. I've had nothing but delaying tactics and lack of information from these European Blizzard guys. Me and my guild are leaving for US servers unless something good happens soon. We are working on a reliable solution to let us get US accounts through a US site right now. Looks promising.

Don't misunderstand me. I am a proud European. It's just that the EU Blizzard team keeps disappointing me, and they are sooooo non-forthcoming with information. Haven't they ever heard the word "dialogue"?

[linus]

I hope the beta start soon, maybe today :)

[Tengu]

I hope the beta start soon, maybe today :)

I wish they'd give as a clue... Anything really. It's the waiting I can't stand. Good thing I'm a bit more relaxed after yesterday now :p

[Elerion]

Several people in the en.wow-europe.com forums with freshly created accounts. Apparently they used the bogus key from US open beta, but that didn't work for me.

The accounts can apparently only be used for posting anonymously and getting to char creation, not for playing.

My guess is on bug :)

[Tengu]

Several people in the en.wow-europe.com forums with freshly created accounts. Apparently they used the bogus key from US open beta, but that didn't work for me.

The accounts can apparently only be used for posting anonymously and getting to char creation, not for playing.

My guess is on bug :)

Quite likely. Don't think I'll be trying it out though.. If no info save for rumors arises on the beta in the next few days, I'll start playing Warcraft3 through again to kill the boredom.

[lidaho]

hi all,
what about this 3d?

http://en.wow-europe.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-general-en&t=19540&p=1#post19540

[SiGiN]

The lack of an official Blizzard response to this just astounds me.


Taken from here (http://en.wow-europe.com/thread.aspx?FN=wow-general-en&T=19540&P=2)... Can't agree more.

Can't help it.. Its December already! I demand some news and certainity sigh... feels better now =) altho not much.

[Liat]

calm down ;) it looks like nothing going to happen today.

[SiGiN]

calm down ;) it looks like nothing going to happen today.

Lol I know =) Just a bit bored, so decided to rant.

[Tengu]

Lol I know =) Just a bit bored, so decided to rant.

Seems this thread is well on it's way to turning into an "official" OT thread :lol:

[lidaho]

the official forum is under-attack.....

[Yogo]

Tengu: I got the link from the german forum. THE OFFICIAL GERMAN FORUM!

I don't know where you got unofficial from, but now you know for sure where I got it.

[hoekpoot]

Anyone who remembers the Authency key for the USA open beta, something like BLZZRD OPEN BETA PUBLIC, or something like that, try typing that in... see what happens....

YOU'RE IN!

[[]Sweeper]

Anyone who remembers the Authency key for the USA open beta, something like BLZZRD OPEN BETA PUBLIC, or something like that, try typing that in... see what happens....

YOU'RE IN!

You're in yeah... anonymous like all the other ******s that did it... You can't play, and you're no more anonymous than blizz kan see your ip, and ban you from the site right after they delete your account

[Liat]

and this silence from Blizzard drives me creazy, at least they can say something :)
It looks we have to wait and torture our selfs expecting the game releases

[Tengu]

Tengu: I got the link from the german forum. THE OFFICIAL GERMAN FORUM!

Woops, sorry 'bout that, should've read your post twice :o


Anyone who remembers the Authency key for the USA open beta, something like BLZZRD OPEN BETA PUBLIC, or something like that, try typing that in... see what happens....

YOU'RE IN!

Yes, it was discussed already.. seems you can't play even though you can get in with it, so no point in it, eh?

[nocon]

At least, when official announcing that the Final Beta starts in december, Blizzard could let us faithful purchasers of the beta-kit know how long we have to wait. Surely there is need of a Community Manager, but is the demand so big that the whole beta has to get stalled? I've paid 100kr (=15$) for this beta! And by every day passing, these money feels more and more like a waste. If the beta starts the 31st December, then I can successful utilize the final beta in only 27 days before the actual release.

[[]Sweeper]

At least, when official announcing that the Final Beta starts in december, Blizzard could let us faithful purchasers of the beta-kit know how long we have to wait. Surely there is need of a Community Manager, but is the demand so big that the whole beta has to get stalled? I've paid 100kr (=15$) for this beta! And by every day passing, these money feels more and more like a waste. If the beta starts the 31st December, then I can successful utilize the final beta in only 27 days before the actual release.

Well, i too payed 100 kr for it (or 99 to be exact) and i honestly dont care. Yes, i would love to get a lot of days playing WoW FB, but then again, we're looking at a propable wipe before release, which means our toons get wiped anyway. That , and the fact that we get a 99 kr reduction when we buy retail , makes me not really care to be honest.

I doubt if we'll see a much longer beta than US open beta, ie 10-12 days

[Mort]

/\
|

What he said. Pluss tha fact that there is no garantie that there will be a january launch. Might as well be feburary. While I would like nothing better than for the final beta to begin soon, I dont consider the money I payed for the beta kit as wasted just because the final beta hasnt started by now (they did say december, and its only the first).

And one more thing. I dont think we can demand a respons from Blizzard just because we heard a rumor. They have already said some time in december, and that may very well be all they know at this time. So lets relax. All the spamming on the blizzard forums is doing is giving the CMs more to do, and less time to devote to getting info to us.

[nocon]

I'm a little more skeptic about WoW - and unlike you it's not definite that I shall buy the full version. And I would like to get the most out of this beta, but unfortunately I can't, since the beta hasn't started yet!

[[]Sweeper]

I'm a little more skeptic about WoW - and unlike you it's not definite that I shall buy the full version. And I would like to get the most out of this beta, but unfortunately I can't, since the beta hasn't started yet!

Well.... You've been promised Final beta in December... Guess what, it'll be here. But don't get the words Final Beta wrong. I sincerely doubt that we will get a 25-30 or 40 day Final Beta period. It just sounds completely wrong to me.

10 days, maybe 15, and if we're extremely lucky , perhaps even 20 days at the most, and then a wipe, three to four days later, retail , and same night the servers go up.

[zingfharn]

I was under the impression that they'd said final beta in december, for delivery in february.

[SadaraK]

Sweeper']Well.... You've been promised Final beta in December... Guess what, it'll be here. But don't get the words Final Beta wrong. I sincerely doubt that we will get a 25-30 or 40 day Final Beta period. It just sounds completely wrong to me.

10 days, maybe 15, and if we're extremely lucky , perhaps even 20 days at the most, and then a wipe, three to four days later, retail , and same night the servers go up.

How do you get those numbers? The game will likley be released late January maybe even early febuard depending on what the find in the beta. So lets say the beta opens mid december (the 15th) and the stop the beta 4 days before the release:

Lets call the release January 31st and the beta start December 15th, 4days off the 31st is the 27th of January the beta will stop.

December 15th to January 27th is 41 days worth of beta, even giving or taking a day or a week we area almost certainly looking at 30 days of beta.

Side note: Why are people freking out/whining/complaining so much? I can't believe people are actually complaining that there hasn't been any information (and even worse that it isn't out) on THE FIRST DAY of the month they said it would be out.

I wan't the damn thing to start as much as anyone else does (over 100 posts on this board in a couple of weeks just because I wan't to have some contact with information about the game) but give blizzard a break. Has anyone ever considered they haven't released information because

a) There isn't anything to say yet.

b) They aren't entirley sure when it will start yet.

c) They have been working so damn hard there literally hasn't been any time to do anything else. (I have been in a developers office or two and can vouch that, come near release time sleep is a luxury).

[[]Sweeper]

How do you get those numbers? The game will likley be released late January maybe even early febuard depending on what the find in the beta. So lets say the beta opens mid december (the 15th) and the stop the beta 4 days before the release:

Lets call the release January 31st and the beta start December 15th, 4days off the 31st is the 27th of January the beta will stop.

December 15th to January 27th is 41 days worth of beta, even giving or taking a day or a week we area almost certainly looking at 30 days of beta.

Side note: Why are people freking out/whining/complaining so much? I can't believe people are actually complaining that there hasn't been any information (and even worse that it isn't out) on THE FIRST DAY of the month they said it would be out.

I wan't the damn thing to start as much as anyone else does (over 100 posts on this board in a couple of weeks just because I wan't to have some contact with information about the game) but give blizzard a break. Has anyone ever considered they haven't released information because

a) There isn't anything to say yet.

b) They aren't entirley sure when it will start yet.

c) They have been working so damn hard there literally hasn't been any time to do anything else. (I have been in a developers office or two and can vouch that, come near release time sleep is a luxury).


Good point... but lets say the release is say january 21... a rumour that has also been sweeping through Denmark. And lets say we remove the four days again. That leaves an end-of-final-beta date to be January 17. Lets then say that they start open beta right before Christmas. The 23 December. Thats a total of 25 days of Final beta.

You said it yourself, No-one but Blizzard knows, and i agree totally with the "Sit down, chill and relax, have a coke and a smile and shut the **** up" idea. People should simply do what is stated in the pre-release. Check the site on a regular basis

[zingfharn]

You're right,. no-one knows. Except that if I'm going to believe anyone, it'll be gameplay, Blizzard's official partner, who say mid december, and mid february respectively.

[Whopper]

http://en.wow-europe.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-general-en&t=20155&p=1#post20155

Could someone fill me in? Where can I download it? I have the beta kit.

[SadaraK]

http://en.wow-europe.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-general-en&t=20155&p=1#post20155

Could someone fill me in? Where can I download it? I have the beta kit.

It's the closed beta so you can't get in, because it's....closed :)

[Anders41]

The EU campaign is a complete joke.

They sold preorders with the promise of a place in the final beta week or so ago. Since then they aint responded to anyhting or posted anyitng.
And today they start sending out more closed beta keys.....


**** Blizzard EU i say. Im taking my cash to the US version and letting the french play their own game(whenever that might be)

[Whopper]

Grrr.. but that means they will be concentrating on us though, right?

[Harbid]

Well...Blizzard did send out more Closed-Beta-keys today! Gungudil confirmed that on he german Beta-Board! So I guess we will have to wait a little longer with our Preorder-Keys :(

[krebbe]

This will backfire... it will backfire bad...

[Whopper]

God****ingDAMNIT! I really feel that we from the EU is getting overlooked!

[[]Sweeper]

The EU campaign is a complete joke.

They sold preorders with the promise of a place in the final beta week or so ago. Since then they aint responded to anyhting or posted anyitng.
And today they start sending out more closed beta keys.....


**** Blizzard EU i say. Im taking my cash to the US version and letting the french play their own game(whenever that might be)

Sweet jesus on a moped....
:cheesy:

<rant> :rant:

Could people PLEASE take a chill-pill, run their heads against the wall,
pleasure themselves or whatever is needed. NOONE ever stated that Final Beta would come about a week ago. NOONE ever stated that it would be the first of December. NOONE ever stated that it would be in the beginning of December.

The only thing that has been promised is that final beta will arrive IN DECEMBER. And guess what... There's 31 days to choose from, it might as well be on December 31, without them not holding their promise.


Sheeeez... some people :grrr:

</rant>

[Whopper]

Sweeper']Sweet jesus on a moped....
:cheesy:

<rant> :rant:

Could people PLEASE take a chill-pill, run their heads against the wall,
pleasure themselves or whatever is needed. NOONE ever stated that Final Beta would come about a week ago. NOONE ever stated that it would be the first of December. NOONE ever stated that it would be in the beginning of December.

The only thing that has been promised is that final beta will arrive IN DECEMBER. And guess what... There's 31 days to choose from, it might as well be on December 31, without them not holding their promise.


Sheeeez... some people :grrr:

</rant>

I don't think people is mad about not being able to play right now, I think their mad at blizzard because of the lack of news!

[Mort]

They can be mad all they want, the only reason this is even an issue right now is because someone picked up a rumor that the final beta would begin this week, and now that this does not seem to be the case, people are getting upset.

I would also like a some info from blizzard about the final beta, but lets face it: if they dont know, they dont know, and giving the mob an estimate would only serve to upset people more if they discover a major bug the next day, and the estimate turned out not to be correct. So this is a no-win situation for blizzard.

And besides, what does it matter. So what if blizzard anounces today that the final beta will being dec 15, or they wait until dec 14 before they anounce the same thing. We wont be playing WoW any sooner anyway.

:rant:

ok, Im done

[miigor]

Oh well, they did these things in wrong order...
I think they should have sent those keys before they sell those preorders, because its just so annoying that you pay for your place in the final beta(and AFTER that you see that they are sending free accounts)(and yes, i know i get refund of that box).
But, we cant do anything but wait... And i've been waiting for some time.

Im done too...

[Tengu]

They can be mad all they want, the only reason this is even an issue right now is because someone picked up a rumor that the final beta would begin this week, and now that this does not seem to be the case, people are getting upset.

I would also like a some info from blizzard about the final beta, but lets face it: if they dont know, they dont know, and giving the mob an estimate would only serve to upset people more if they discover a major bug the next day, and the estimate turned out not to be correct. So this is a no-win situation for blizzard.

And besides, what does it matter. So what if blizzard anounces today that the final beta will being dec 15, or they wait until dec 14 before they anounce the same thing. We wont be playing WoW any sooner anyway.

:rant:

ok, Im done

More like everyone picked the rumor that it'd start this week..Myself included :p but that was only because that's what my shop told me.

Kinda hard to chill while you're waiting for a game as awesome as WoW, but it can be done, I quess.. I've got so much studying to do that right now that I can't go around getting upset about everything I hear about the beta..

[Los Sin Nombre]

Lucas has something to say to you. (http://upl.silentwhisper.net/uplfolders/upload9/LucasKnows.jpg)

The amount of whining is really getting stupid.

[Yogo]

I'm not so much angred by it not starting this Friday.
I'm more angred that I particially paid for the beta-kit and that I see people getting invites, who don't have to pre-order at all to secure a place in the EFB.
For that, I'm angred.

[Hypothraxer]

I'm more angred that I particially paid for the beta-kit and that I see people getting invites, who don't have to pre-order at all to secure a place in the EFB.

The keys send out today were accounts for the closed beta!

Those people who are in the beta test now will still have to buy the game - and if they're unlucky and didn't preorder a copy, they will have to wait after the launch because there could be a shortage of WoW-copies.

Regards
Hypo