PDA

View Full Version : How good is your WoW experience this far?


Silverjam
07-01-2005, 04:30 PM
Just a curious question, since I'm one of those folks thats waiting for the European version to go live. (I'm playing EQ2 while waiting, and am quite amazed by its depth, good support, etc... - Of course EQ2 also have a few shortcomings.)

Of course I have to play the final game, but I'm not *that* eager anymore, since I've already been on the US open beta, and found another nice game...

No game is perfect (not even Monkey Island!), so I'd like to have your *honest* opinion on your overall experience of WoW until now....

One more thing: Please don't make this a thread like "Game X is better than Game Y".

(The reason why I'm asking is that I've read a few posts on the official boards, where people whine about crappy support, a crappy pvp system, no end-game content, simplistic tradeskill system, etc.... -- However, most people seem to have an excellent time as far as I can read from the boards.....)

stickboy144
07-01-2005, 04:35 PM
You should be *that* eager, WoW pwns EQ2!

I've played US close beta, US open beta and EU closed beta, and even though it sucks losing my characters i've still enjoyed every second

Mr.Sunrock
07-01-2005, 04:51 PM
Well the only thing I can complain about in WoW is that you level to fast.

Fox80
07-01-2005, 05:40 PM
Well the only thing I can complain about in WoW is that you level to fast. that one, and the lack of some kind of honor system. Still its one of the best games i have ever played.

Eiger
07-01-2005, 06:13 PM
Great game - no real complaints. Just a bit of a drag here and there when I end up with 16 of 18 quests that require a party and no party's available...

Maullus
07-01-2005, 06:18 PM
Greetings,

Love the game, no complaints.

I'm not saying it's perfect, as it certainly still needs some work... but I'm sure that work will be done. In the meantime, I continue to enjoy myself. I've been playing for 8 or 9 months, give or take a little. Admittedly, if I was still soloing exclusively I'd be pretty discouraged, but finally being able to play with my girlfriend, my friends, and my guildmates has exponentially increased the amount of fun I have when playing.

Larren
07-01-2005, 07:19 PM
Greatest game of ever, only complain game is not yet exited and blizzard times are too long compared to normal time.
When the element promised will be in the game, i'll go crazy for WoW.

aartamen
07-01-2005, 09:04 PM
No complaints. Other than people complaining.

Oddjob
07-01-2005, 09:05 PM
Well since the closed beta went down *looks at watch* 3 days 1 hour 15 minutes and 24 seconds ago *ahem* I have been having "cold turkey".

So yes this game is awesome.

SnakeZ
07-01-2005, 09:43 PM
Love this game, although a few things could be better! <- that would be my answer ;)

I'm also waiting for EU FB but i got my first taste at US OB and now i have been playing korea so i got my worst withdrawal away.

Generaly i love the game but a few things could be added althou they are allready on blizzards list... like battlegrounds and honor system. They will be like icing on a sweet cake.

spanair
07-01-2005, 09:50 PM
Love the game, only complaint is some minor touches to wow, but no big deal.

frixion
07-01-2005, 10:14 PM
I hit: I'm quite happy, although a few things could be better! (Please specify.)

so i guess I have to specify...

Warlocks need to be fixed, paladins need to be adjusted because they are still too powerful, city lag needs to be addressed, talent reset costs need to be brought down.

thats my 30 second brainstorm, give me 30 mins i could come up with a page or two.

Still a lot of work to be done, but none the less... its great fun to play. even as a broken warlock.

Kcirtap1
07-01-2005, 10:43 PM
only one complaint,
makes you too damn addicted! :eek:

LunarSolaris
07-01-2005, 11:11 PM
I absolutely love the game. One of the best games ever made to date!

Only a few very minor complaints which I can qualify with an understanding...

1. Dying can be very frustrating... having to walk all the way back to your corpse can take a loooooooong time - and then if you respawn incorrectly and get killed again, you get the penalty. On some levels I understand why Blizzard put this into the game, but frankly, it can be frustrating. It's purpose is to encourage people to not rush... to take their time. On that level I understand - but just think it could have been designed differenty.

2. The game can be very hard to play if you're a "lone-wolf". The elite quests are nearly impossible (if not impossible) to finish on your own. Sometimes it can be hard to find a group to complete some of the quests. That can be a bummer.

3. Overcrowding can be frustrating if you're waiting for a quest and a few things happen: a. other groups are also waiting for it. Waiting for Bellygrub or another monster to re-spawn can be annoying. b. high levels ganking those kills to be a jerk (luckily I've not seen this yet, but I've heard about it).

4. Lag in towns... I agree it can be annoying - however, I upgraded my RAM to 1GB and the game is smooth as silk now. (I realize not everyone can get that much RAM to their puters).

Aside from those few minor issues, this is the most in-depth game I've ever played. There are so many places to explore, things to do, professions to develop, characters to try, that it's a truly amazing game!

Also... I'm glad the characters can level a bit faster. With as deep as this game goes and the sheer variety - it would take forever to play the game if you had to spend forever to develop a character. And honestly, I don't think that the characters develop that rapidly. I've been playing solid for 2 weeks now (we're talking at least 2-5 hours a day on average), and I have a Rogue that is only level 21. I wouldn't call that "fast" leveling. (of course, I've stopped to smell the roses along the way as well... i.e. working on developing leatherworking/skinning, some fishing, completing various quests from start to finish, etc.)

Anyhow, that long-winded post to say that it's an amazing game! I love it!

Pub-O
07-01-2005, 11:14 PM
The orginal poster sounds like he enjoys EQ2 more than WoW!?

If you like EQ, then stick with that mate:)

I like WoW... That's why im here;)

Silverjam
08-01-2005, 12:52 AM
The orginal poster sounds like he enjoys EQ2 more than WoW!?

If you like EQ, then stick with that mate:)

I like WoW... That's why im here;)

How precise. :-)

I was also very amazed by WoW (the game itself) when I was in the US Open Beta, but was a bit disappointed of my fellow beta-testers: I had a feeling that people didn't want to help or even pay attention to you when you needed help with a specific thing. Felt a bit like 12-year olds that played it like it was Diablo (nothing wrong with 12-year olds or Diablo, but just don't play WoW like it *is* Diablo)....

(Still, I hope that as soon as you get credit cards involved, the player base changes....) -- Doesn't it???

Anyways: content is also king in EQ2 (Sony just released a *huge* patch with loads of new content and bug fixes yesterday). More importantly, I get the (naive?) feeling that the players are "more mature" in EQ2...... (No intention to start a flame war though!)

As things are right now when Blizzard seems to ditch the EU release a bit (the EU webpage is rarely updated compared to the US webpage, even though the US webpage have lots of relevant info for us Europeans), combined with "MMORPG Rule Number One: MMORPG releases are always crappy in the first days (lots of bugs, lag, crappy support)", I think I'll stay with EQ2 for a couple of monts at least, and then boot up on my preordered WoW CE to see how things are *then*.....

Still, I'd love to hear your opinions in this thread, so keep'em coming. :-)

Cheers,
~Silverjam

Sparrisen
08-01-2005, 01:50 AM
I hit the "dissapointed" thingy.
And now you got me started...
I have plenty of reasons of doing so, which includes but are not limited to:
Lack of overall customisation, which applies to character developing, tradeskills and such. I mean a minimum for a smith would be to be able to set a rough design for what he wants to do, even if he just chooses the apperance of the armor he does from a list. Tradeskills overall is a disappointment I think. There's set recepies for everything which makes the <made by sparrisen> tag pretty useless.
I have lost count of the number of times my quest has been to slay harpies, who all have the same apperance except they shift in colour and gets bigger together with the level of your character. And that's only the harpies mind you. If you solo often it's especially hard to find a quest that seems meaningful.

If you're not an RPer the game consists of only one level. That level is fighting. Example tradeskills: You get the ingredients by fighting, to get the loot, or just to get through to the iron deposit. You get the recepie by fighting, either in a quest or as loot. You then use the tradeskill to increase your fighting potential. And yes, I realise the game's name is World of Warcraft but I get tired of fighing all the time kinda fast.
The very basis of any MMORPG should be other players, and to interact with them, since this is a never ending source of amusement. Blizzard does very little to encourage the player to interact with each other.

The game universe has lost much of it's charm since WarII. I mean, the original trolls were SO cool. The whole orcish race was terrific and I loved every part of it. I have to admit that the current trolls are kinda funky now as well, but they're not even close to what they were. And I've stated it before, but I will do it again, I NEVER wanted to see a stylish orcish tailor dressed all in purple. Everything has become so timid and restrained, probably to appeal to more people. In addition, the now good and nice orcs are allies with the undead, who I've never really figuered out. I mean, are they good or evil? They're probably the last thing I'd want to be allied with if I was a nature-loving orc or tauren.
The alliance has gone trough very little change, and they're pretty OK. Yes, even the gnomes. I can't decide if I'd want high elves back instead of the night elves. Would be nice to have them as an option anyway.

I more or less feel like I've been treated like crap by the Blizz's Euro department, and I'm not alone feeling that way. I can only hope that they use the time in Euro beta to add some depth to the game, but I don't consider it very likely.

I guess the simplicity of WoW has its charm. I mean, EVERYONE can play it, and that together with blizz's reputation makes this a bestseller. Probably because of the overall crappyness of my computer (failure to percieve to "stunning graphics". I tell you, the gryphon rides aren't as fun when you only see one screen every 5 seconds) I get bored very quickly though, and in my opinion WoW should be in beta for AT LEAST another six months.

From my personal experience, the blizzard support, at least the tech support, is pretty outstanding. And I was really impressed by the support I got. I could also mention that it was from the US support I got that support.

The game feels kinda small I guess. No matter the environment, you always do the same thing. Kill, level up, kill, level up, kill... I really hated Diablo II for that reason, it felt like I was in a swamp or something. Every step I took only resulted in me sinking down again. World of Warcraft isn't as bad, much thanks to the new environments I think.

I'll probably not play more than to the end of my free month in retail. Then I'll probably drift over to a fairly unkown mmorpg named "a tale in the desert", which is on many points pretty much the opposite to WoW.

Ooh. Sorry, I just remembered, the "1 level" thingy only apply if you don't count fishing, which is the only tradeskill which can be fun on it's own. But "simple" is a very fitting description to fishing as well.

My opinion is that from "starcraft", Blizzard has gone downhill. The only reason to why I've played diablo II, warIII and WoW, is because of WarI, II, and starcraft (diablo 1 was quite good as well...)

Ugh, I have more things I could say, just ask me again another day...

Pub-O
08-01-2005, 02:25 AM
I'll probably not play more than to the end of my free month in retail. Then I'll probably drift over to a fairly unkown mmorpg named "a tale in the desert", which is on many points pretty much the opposite to WoW.


Even though you will probably get flamed for your point of view, good luck mate.

A tale in the desert is an extremely uniqe game. Nothing is out there like it. I guss UO and SWG comes close as far as social interaction go.

I agree with many of your points.

WoW is so far from perfect or anything like that.

But after all it is quite a cohesive game. Having played many MMOs and discovering that it's painfully the same it is still entertaining.

What sets WoW apart from the others if you ask me, is the presentation.

It's as solid as a good Nintendo Mario platform game. Smooth, genius design.

I really think that WoW is an extremely wellout thought game. Im surprised that how great and varried the 9 classes are.

While im eagerly dissapointed that WoW does not feature any crafting class/social interaction class, I have to say that WoW seems perfect.

It is really a game that has different classes. Instead of having lame combinations of many it has some good few.

Even the Paladin got some classic Bard style gameplay in it. Very well thought out, if you ask me.

Rogue, representing the classic Thief, Assasin, Spy!
Warlock representing the classic Necromancer
Paladin representing the classic melee healer, Bard
Shaman representing the classic jack of all trades

I just think that there is a role for every class. And it's not like you totally need a priest or a warrior to do a high level instances! There are other people as well.

Some classes focus on DOTS... Some on AOE.. Some on stealth.. some on tactics... Some are twich based, some are good for pulling, some are about aggro, some are about buffs, some are about group leadership/group healing.. some are about changing forms/stances/abillities..

It's really a great mix.

I also have to give it a notch to the world itself. Lots of good warcraft stuff.

Medivhs tower rules! So does Dalaran!

But yeahh WoW needs stuff. I seriously want player housing, much deeper crafting and does darn battlegrounds/pvp rewards.

Besides that I think WoW is a great game.

Potential is hugh:)

Anyway, have fun mate. Do come back in a few months to see how everything is when the game has changed and more content have been added:-)

Perrin
08-01-2005, 08:26 AM
Social interaction is also what you make of it yourself. If the game matures a little, guilds get a little more settled in, smaller guilds fusing into bigger ones, you get a much more defined playerbase on a specific server, where the high level players pretty much know eachother. That takes time, and a little time away from powerleveling (which a lot of people are busy with, since the game is just out, and it's natural that you want to be bigger than the other guy).

I think all the ingredients are there for making it a perfect game, can only think of 3 lacking areas, and they've been mentioned before:

- a better PvP system which discourages 'ganking', but doesn't make it impossible for higher levels to attack lower levels, since it should not be like PvE where you can walk past a level +20 in a contested area and /rude him.
- an improved crafting system (deeper, more personalized, making crafting skills as rewarding as gathering skills)
- somehow improve game code or game hardware to support a lot of ppl in 1 place (since I've heard a lot of stories, and experienced it myself in beta's that you totally lag out when you're in the middle of a large raid, or in an area hosted by the same machine)

myndreach
08-01-2005, 11:08 AM
Well my wife and I have been playing since launch day. The first couple days, when you could play without horrible lag and such, were great.

Since the lag has mostly gone (starting around day 3), it's been just great!

We had mid 20s horde characters on Nathrezim, but there was no one really on the server, so we switched to Illidan which has tons of people. We are now dwarves (im 20 pally she's 2 bubs from 20 hunter) and are loving it even more than the horde side.

We've had no real issues at all with the game, other than it's addicting! Hehe...

frixion
08-01-2005, 11:30 AM
Tradeskills overall is a disappointment I think. There's set recepies for everything which makes the <made by sparrisen> tag pretty useless.
The best recepies are ultra rare, and the tag lets people know where they can get that totally cool item you made, that very few others can.

You obviously never made it to a high level.

I have lost count of the number of times my quest has been to slay harpies, who all have the same apperance except they shift in colour and gets bigger together with the level of your character.
Up until about level 10, yea.

You get the recepie by fighting, either in a quest or as loot.
Not discovered trading or Auction Houses yet then?

You then use the tradeskill to increase your fighting potential.
Or to create trade goods for others, or to make food for your pet.. etc.

I get tired of fighing all the time kinda fast.
Join a guild.

Blizzard does very little to encourage the player to interact with each other.
Apart from dumping you in a game with a few thousand other people and making a lot of the game dependant on you being with someone else... yea ok... very little encouragement. /sarcasm

I NEVER wanted to see a stylish orcish tailor dressed all in purple.

Meet my warlock a few levels ago.
http://www.asmo75.dsl.pipex.com/Haarm.jpg

I mean, are they good or evil?
They're Horde and Alliance, good and evil doesn't exist.

.... and now i'm bored picking your post apart... I think everyone can see where it's going.

I hope never to see you in game you pessimistic narrow minded fool.

Pub-O
08-01-2005, 01:47 PM
frixion - How can you call him narrow minded? It seems to be you who use personal attacks and insults:(

Why can't he have his opinion? If he does not like WoW, then I think it is great.

Hell. many 100.000 thousands of people don't like WoW.

Even though this is a WoW fansite, I think it would be great if we at least could show the proper respect, to does we have to strongly disagree with.

The day we start flaming people who does not like WoW, is the day, that the WoW community truly turns into Battle.net racist/kiddie MMO!:'(

Sparrisen
08-01-2005, 02:19 PM
I had real high expectations when I preordered the game, and I got dissapointed. There are several flaws in your arguments, but I suspect you can't accept people with different views than yourself, so I'll spare you all. I just told you guys how I view things. It is however true that I haven't reached 50-60 levels, but I think the levels before that should be rewarding as well.

I hope never to see you in game you pessimistic narrow minded fool.

I hoped I wouldn't have to read such a thing from a person with "WoW staff" next to his name.

frixion
08-01-2005, 02:28 PM
I hoped I wouldn't have to read such a thing from a person with "WoW staff" next to his name.

I guess technically it should say WWN Staff, blame Rush ;)

AngryMob
08-01-2005, 02:45 PM
obviously frixion has never played an mmorpg before and does not know that crafting usually doesnt mean that u have to fight your way to hidden recepies in cave guarded by uber monsters.

admit it or not, but wow SUCKS when it comes to crafting or any other activity besides fighting/questing.

smokes
08-01-2005, 03:01 PM
you're so wrong, monkey island 1 and 2 are PERFECT!!

Ged666
08-01-2005, 03:15 PM
I replyed: "I'm quite happy, although a few things could be better!".

The game overall is very good but Information to the European community has been awful. The little info that has been released has been wrong. This has already been poited out 1238123 times on these forums - let's not take this up in this tread too. I'm not sure about how bad the level of information is in America, Korea and China. This is just about the only bad thing I have noticed of the game so far.

A few other things worth mentioning is that not every major city has it own Auctionhouses, the honor system in PvP as well as the battlegrounds haven't been implemented yet, and finally the high monthly fee (The fee would be ok if the service was much higher than what I have seen so far.)

Morphina
08-01-2005, 03:23 PM
I replyed: "I'm quite happy, although a few things could be better!".

The game overall is very good but Information to the European community has been awful. The little info that has been released has been wrong. This has already been poited out 1238123 times on these forums - let's not take this up in this tread too. I'm not sure about how bad the level of information is in America, Korea and China. This is just about the only bad thing I have noticed of the game so far.

A few other things worth mentioning is that not every major city has it own Auctionhouses, the honor system in PvP as well as the battlegrounds haven't been implemented yet, and finally the high monthly fee (The fee would be ok if the service was much higher than what I have seen so far.)

Its a frech team catering the european community....(German community team works much better)...And after my experiencess with GOA in DAoC, i am suspicious to the level of service that french companies give.

I am sure Blizzard won;t let that happen in europe though and it is to easy to allways blame it on the french.

Kcirtap1
08-01-2005, 06:14 PM
Monkey Island 1 & 2 are definitly perfect!!!!
If you dont know what youre talking about then STFU j/k :D

Mychae
08-01-2005, 07:02 PM
I agree with the opinion of Sparrisen. My own experience of the game is that I hate the whole design. From then on I won t enjoy the game even if it's playable. This graphic style fit to Warcraft 3 only. I don t understand why Blizzard hasn t come with new ideas on this part of the game. Voilą
Now when I want to dive in a fantastic universe I prefer to play the tabletop wargame called Warhammer with its very detailed models and awesome gameplay. I encourage you to give it a try. Look at their orcish horde ...
http://www.games-workshop.com

Another point related to WoW, how can Blizzard pretend to give the most exciting and "reliable" MMORPG experience to to the players when they run Windows in their game servers ?!?

Mychae
08-01-2005, 07:03 PM
I agree with the opinion of Sparrisen. My own experience of the game is that I hate the whole design. From then on I won t enjoy the game even if it's playable. This graphic style fit to Warcraft 3 only. I don t understand why Blizzard hasn t come with new ideas on this part of the game. Voilą
Now when I want to dive in a fantastic universe I prefer to play the tabletop wargame called Warhammer with its very detailed models and awesome gameplay. I encourage you to give it a try. Look at their orcish horde ...
http://www.games-workshop.com

Another point related to WoW, how can Blizzard pretend to give the most exciting and "reliable" MMORPG experience to to the players when they run Windows in their game servers ?!?

Mychae
08-01-2005, 07:24 PM
Again an example of how the windows plateform is crappy, i wanted to edit my last post and it ended up with "server error" and a new post. This is as simple query, but now imagine the hell if applied to the game servers ^^

Frixion : Have you find a mate for your purple warlord ?

Mychae
08-01-2005, 07:29 PM
Again an example of how the windows plateform is crappy, i wanted to edit my last post and it ended up with "server error" and a new post. This is as simple query, but now imagine the hell if applied to the game servers ^^ Tx WWN Rush

Frixion : Have you find a mate for your purple warlord ?

Mychae
08-01-2005, 07:32 PM
Again an example of how the windows plateform is crappy, i wanted to edit my last post and it ended up with "server error" and a new post. This is as simple query, but now imagine the hell if applied to the game servers ^^

Frixion : Have you find a mate for your purple warlord ?

Mychae
08-01-2005, 07:35 PM
Again an example of how the windows plateform is crappy, i wanted to edit my last post and it ended up with "server error" and a new post. This is as simple query, but now imagine the hell if applied to the game servers ^^

Frixion : Have you find a mate for your purple warlord ?

Elly
08-01-2005, 08:42 PM
I voted 2nd from top.

'cigarette smoking' monsters and NPCs I could do without.

More variation in quests (my highest character is 36 so I'm hoping come 40 upwards things will get a little more inventive quest-wise)

Neither of those are enough to stop me practically chewing my hand off waiting for the EU servers to go back online however.