Ludio
15-03-2005, 04:42 PM
I have seen alot of people talking about this recently in posts about getting money for an epic mount, but I really think it deserves its own thread, and maybe a sticky ;)
This is the best way to make money as a lvl 60 rogue and it is unique to our class, rogues truly are the best farming class, first we had pickpocket now we have this. You can get loads of arcane crystals, and some nice gems. It will be better in the next patch when gems are no longer obtainable from junkboxes, and the drop rate is going up for them in veins. Unfortunately they are also itemizing silithus, which will attract more people there, but it still won't change the fact that only rogues can do this.
Let me first describe the situation and why only our class can take advantage of it. Silithus (the most south western zone in Kalimdor) is where the silithid come from (think zerg). While they take many shapes and forms throughout southern Kalimdor, here they are between lvl 55 and lvl 60 elites. They are packed into underground hives that consist of winding tunnels, and in these tunnels are many ooze covered rich thorium veins. So you have lots of high level elite mobs in between you and the veins. As you can imagine stealth is very nice in getting to these veins, however it doesn't stop there. Sometimes there are mobs right next to veins, even scary lvl 60 elites that you have no chance of beating, but too bad for them we have stunlock. Thats right this rogue pvp tactic can help you mine while the mob just sits there and watches you. So only a stealth class can get to these veins easily, and for some veins only a class with many stuns/disorients can mine them.
Ok so only rogues can mine these, now let me describe the basic tactics in doing this. Remember that you are only there to mine, so if you can avoid it you don't even have to fight the mobs. Lots of times there are mines away from mobs, or they are patrolling. Mine in peace and then stealth away, or with a patrolling mob distract them when they are far away and then you can get two mines off before they start patrolling again (maximum of 4 mines per vein, so at most you would have to do this twice). If you have to fight, and you often do, then cheapshot and gouge them and then mine, then when you have 5 points kidney shot, then repeat gouging until the vein is empty and vanish. I have 2 points in improved gouge, which is very nice, but Im not sure if it is essential, if it is believe me it is worth the respec, although alot of people have this anyway. You can also use blind of course, but it is not neccessary and gets expensive. Also you will notice some neutral patrols that go around, these are social so don't attack something while they are nearby, just wait for them to pass. This is the basic formula, but I'll go over some specifics.
There are 3 hives within Silithus. Going in order of levels there is Hive Ashi in the north around lvl 55-56. These guys are easy, you can even kill them if you want, but its not worth it because it takes too long. Only guys to watch out for is the defenders because they disarm, I use a weapon chain to avoid this problem (also nice in pvp).
To the south west there is Hive Zora. These guys are lvl 57-58 and can be killed if you use preperation, but they are definately not worth it. The Reavers have a knockdown, but it isn't too bad. The ones to watch out for are the Hive Sisters, they will lay eggs that hatch quickly if you don't kill them. Also there are a special sort of mob here, the wasp swarms. These guys are only in certain rooms and they are linked spawns. Generally if I see a vein near them I try to see if I can distract them when they are away from it, otherwise I ignore it. If you really want to get it take it slow, kill them one at a time (kill one and then vanish and start eating or the poison will kill you) and it will take a long time to do it.
To the south east is Hive Regal. They are lvl 59-60 and cannot be killed. Well to be honest I never tried and I don't plan on doing it anytime soon. The Spitfires are surprisingly easy, if they are at range and you time it right you can mine in between their attack, still helps to gouge though. The others are all bad. The Hive Lords have a really bad knockback, the Ambushers have a 30 second dot, and the Slavemakers have a 2 minute dot disease. You can take them all, just be careful and be aware of their effects, once you die a few times you should have learned how to deal with them and can mine here relatively safely.
Ok thats pretty much it, to wrap it up I'll give some talent suggestions for this. I have something similar to Osiris's build, 21/4/26. The talents which are nice for this are:
1-3 impr gouge: I'm not sure exactly how many you need, with some fast attacking enemies I barely get my mine off with 2, with others its no problem, test it out yourself and if you need to get this I would highly suggest it as the money you bring in will easily cover the cost, and its also a great talent.
MOD: You're sneaking around lvl 60 elites in a small tunnel, not essential, but very handy.
Camouflage: You will be in stealth ALOT, moving fast is always nice.
Elusiveness: You have to use vanish alot, sometimes you will use evasion/blind. This will make your mining go quicker, but not essential.
Preparation: Having the ability to vanish, blind, evade or sprint twice in a short period of time WILL save your life. Not essential, but it is a long walk from the graveyard.
If any other Silithus miners have some suggestions feel free to post and I'll add them to this guide.
This is the best way to make money as a lvl 60 rogue and it is unique to our class, rogues truly are the best farming class, first we had pickpocket now we have this. You can get loads of arcane crystals, and some nice gems. It will be better in the next patch when gems are no longer obtainable from junkboxes, and the drop rate is going up for them in veins. Unfortunately they are also itemizing silithus, which will attract more people there, but it still won't change the fact that only rogues can do this.
Let me first describe the situation and why only our class can take advantage of it. Silithus (the most south western zone in Kalimdor) is where the silithid come from (think zerg). While they take many shapes and forms throughout southern Kalimdor, here they are between lvl 55 and lvl 60 elites. They are packed into underground hives that consist of winding tunnels, and in these tunnels are many ooze covered rich thorium veins. So you have lots of high level elite mobs in between you and the veins. As you can imagine stealth is very nice in getting to these veins, however it doesn't stop there. Sometimes there are mobs right next to veins, even scary lvl 60 elites that you have no chance of beating, but too bad for them we have stunlock. Thats right this rogue pvp tactic can help you mine while the mob just sits there and watches you. So only a stealth class can get to these veins easily, and for some veins only a class with many stuns/disorients can mine them.
Ok so only rogues can mine these, now let me describe the basic tactics in doing this. Remember that you are only there to mine, so if you can avoid it you don't even have to fight the mobs. Lots of times there are mines away from mobs, or they are patrolling. Mine in peace and then stealth away, or with a patrolling mob distract them when they are far away and then you can get two mines off before they start patrolling again (maximum of 4 mines per vein, so at most you would have to do this twice). If you have to fight, and you often do, then cheapshot and gouge them and then mine, then when you have 5 points kidney shot, then repeat gouging until the vein is empty and vanish. I have 2 points in improved gouge, which is very nice, but Im not sure if it is essential, if it is believe me it is worth the respec, although alot of people have this anyway. You can also use blind of course, but it is not neccessary and gets expensive. Also you will notice some neutral patrols that go around, these are social so don't attack something while they are nearby, just wait for them to pass. This is the basic formula, but I'll go over some specifics.
There are 3 hives within Silithus. Going in order of levels there is Hive Ashi in the north around lvl 55-56. These guys are easy, you can even kill them if you want, but its not worth it because it takes too long. Only guys to watch out for is the defenders because they disarm, I use a weapon chain to avoid this problem (also nice in pvp).
To the south west there is Hive Zora. These guys are lvl 57-58 and can be killed if you use preperation, but they are definately not worth it. The Reavers have a knockdown, but it isn't too bad. The ones to watch out for are the Hive Sisters, they will lay eggs that hatch quickly if you don't kill them. Also there are a special sort of mob here, the wasp swarms. These guys are only in certain rooms and they are linked spawns. Generally if I see a vein near them I try to see if I can distract them when they are away from it, otherwise I ignore it. If you really want to get it take it slow, kill them one at a time (kill one and then vanish and start eating or the poison will kill you) and it will take a long time to do it.
To the south east is Hive Regal. They are lvl 59-60 and cannot be killed. Well to be honest I never tried and I don't plan on doing it anytime soon. The Spitfires are surprisingly easy, if they are at range and you time it right you can mine in between their attack, still helps to gouge though. The others are all bad. The Hive Lords have a really bad knockback, the Ambushers have a 30 second dot, and the Slavemakers have a 2 minute dot disease. You can take them all, just be careful and be aware of their effects, once you die a few times you should have learned how to deal with them and can mine here relatively safely.
Ok thats pretty much it, to wrap it up I'll give some talent suggestions for this. I have something similar to Osiris's build, 21/4/26. The talents which are nice for this are:
1-3 impr gouge: I'm not sure exactly how many you need, with some fast attacking enemies I barely get my mine off with 2, with others its no problem, test it out yourself and if you need to get this I would highly suggest it as the money you bring in will easily cover the cost, and its also a great talent.
MOD: You're sneaking around lvl 60 elites in a small tunnel, not essential, but very handy.
Camouflage: You will be in stealth ALOT, moving fast is always nice.
Elusiveness: You have to use vanish alot, sometimes you will use evasion/blind. This will make your mining go quicker, but not essential.
Preparation: Having the ability to vanish, blind, evade or sprint twice in a short period of time WILL save your life. Not essential, but it is a long walk from the graveyard.
If any other Silithus miners have some suggestions feel free to post and I'll add them to this guide.