Reputation after 60

[Ansi]

Its always been my impression that its not possible to increase reputation after 60, and recently I got it confirmed. But I noticed you can still increase with Argent Dawn Valor Tokens.

Did I miss something? Is it still possible with some factions and some quests? Do I find a list somewhere?

[BraveSirRobin]

You absolutely can increase your reputation after 60. :) I spent the better half of 2 hours grinding furbolgs in Felwood a few nights back to raise reputation with the Timbermaws. Why? Cause I'm an Alchy and I want the transmute I can buy from them once I get my rep good with them :) I gained a reasonable amount of rep with Stormwind when completing the Great Masquerade quest. (Awesome quest that one :) ) Going though Scholomance or Stratholme gives plenty of rep with the AD. If you want to see how much reputation you gain a good UI mod to get is Reputation 0.13 http://ui.worldofwar.net/ui.php?id=57 With this you can track how much rep you get after killing something or finishing a quest or whatever else gets you reputation.

Now on the other hand, it still hurts to hand in a quest and see "You gain 10000 experience." ;)

[Xanthio]

Its always been my impression that its not possible to increase reputation after 60, and recently I got it confirmed. But I noticed you can still increase with Argent Dawn Valor Tokens.

Did I miss something? Is it still possible with some factions and some quests? Do I find a list somewhere?

Yeah as mentioned by BraveSirRobin, you absolutely can gain reputation above 60... in general.

The thing about it is that it is greatly reduced in many cases. I'm not sure if this is purely a function of being level 60, or a function of the level difference. I suspect the level gap though, as the Scourgestone quests and some mobs in Eastern Plaguelands will give higher rep than, say, the various furbolgs do for the Timbermaw.

On the other hand, I'd like to point out how terribly out of balance some of this is. I haven't tested pure rep/time numbers for Timbermaw for farming vs. questing for rep, but some of the numbers are absolutely hideous. At level 60 is still made more sense (at least until recently) to just farm the southern Deadwood furbolgs rather than do any of the earlier repeatable quests. I have just tested the Winterfall repeatable quest but I have yet to get a rep/time number for the southern Deadwoods to compare it against. I'll do that later tonight.

Hopefully it will turn out that the repeatable Winterfall quest is actually worth doing.

And BraveSirRobin was also right about that mod, grab it.

-X

[Xanthio]

Follow up:

I finally got around to doing that timed comparison and the results were less than stellar. Seems that even with the Winterfall repeatable quest available, I was still able to get comparable numbers just killing the lower level Deadwood furbolgs in southern Felwood.

(note: test performed with a level 60 Tauren Shaman spec'ed Ehancement / Restore)

The "Winterfall Activity" quest combined with all the furbolgs killed to complete it totalled 165 Timbermaw rep over a period of exactly 15 minutes (timed from clicking accept until clicking complete). Simply farming the Deadwoods of southern Felwood came to something in the neighborhood of 150 over 15 minutes. Naturally there are a variety of factors -- class (a class with AoE could likely mow low level furbolgs down by the dozens), competition (I was one of four people in Deadwood Village when getting these numbers, but I also got every spawn of Overlord Ror during that time), as well as factors that don't impact the numbers but might impact the decision of what to do (such as loot). Frankly, with pretty comparable numbers AND better drops in Deadwood Village, I'd probably still just go kill the low level furbolgs there rather than do the Winterfall quest (unless it was being heavily farmed).

Some numbers in the event you care (timbermaw rep returns @ 60):

Deadwood Furbolg (south) = 5
Deadwood Furbolg (north) = 5
Winterfall Furbolg = 5
Winterfall Activity (quest) = 75
All prior repeatable quests = 5-7 (not even worth doing)

As for getting rep with *other* factions, I will try to record my numbers as I work on Argent Dawn and Thorium Brotherhood, in the event that anyone is interested.

-X

[Ansi]

Thanks alot. Though now with the new "Donations of cloth" quests it should be MUCH easier to get exalted with a faction. Does anyone know where I can find the exact numbers for reputation increase on this matter?

[SuAside]

Thanks alot. Though now with the new "Donations of cloth" quests it should be MUCH easier to get exalted with a faction. Does anyone know where I can find the exact numbers for reputation increase on this matter?
the first runecloth turn in will give you 150 rep (for 60 runecloth)

after that you turn in stacks of 20 for 50 rep each.

this would mean i have to find 8080 runecloth before i get exhalted & my mount. at the current rate i would need over a 100 days. ^^ (what can i say, i just dont like to grind)

[Ansi]

Someone gave me the (false?) impression that it is possible to get reputation with capitals - Stormwind, Orgrimmar, et cetera - Through Battlegrounds. I do not mean with the local faction like Warsong Gulch, I do mean with the major capitals. Can anyone confirm that this is possible/not possible?

[SuAside]

Someone gave me the (false?) impression that it is possible to get reputation with capitals - Stormwind, Orgrimmar, et cetera - Through Battlegrounds. I do not mean with the local faction like Warsong Gulch, I do mean with the major capitals. Can anyone confirm that this is possible/not possible?
when you do the taming frostwolf quest for equiping our cavalery with mounts, you gain small amounts of orgr rep each time. i think the same goes for ram hides.

however, these boosts in rep (unlike the frost wolf rep) only happen when YOU do the quest. it cant be leeched...

[Ansi]

Are there any repeatable reputation quests for Undercity? (Often reffered to as RRQ's) BESIDES the runecloth quest.

[Neenuvar]

Yesterday i ran into a problem. I was doing some quests in the Eastern Plaguelands with a lvl 57 friend, and i myself had just turned 60. We were killing lvl 59 undead, and my friend was gaining reputation with the Argent Dawn for them yet i was not. My own reputation is not even at honored yet, so it has nothing to do with my reputation being too high. I wrote a gm-ticket asking if this was intentional or if it was a bug. The only reply i got was that they tested it and everything was fully functional and i should ask a friend.
Since the gm apparently didn't feel like answering my question, i hope one of the people here will know. Should i not gain any more reputation from killing undead once i hit 60?

[Choperos]

@lvl 60 only elite undead give rep with AD,not normal ones...And of course the tokens but I'd suggest you keep those for the exalted quest :happy34:
Oh,and try to remember to wear your AD commission when farming undead in Plaguelands :happy14:

[birds_of_fire]

How to most efficiently gain reputation with Argent Dawn.

As you gain reputation, the methods by which you can continue gaining reputation become fewer. The idea, therefore, is to utilize each method to its fullest. Thus, until you have reached 6000/12000, going from Honored to Revered, you should not have turned in even a single scourgestone yet.

Starting from neutral:
grind, grind, grind. can earn rep from anything and everything until you are at 3000/6000 from friendly to honored. At this point, scholo and strat runs become important. Elites provide the bulk of your rep gains until you are 6000/12000, honored to revered. From this point on, the gains are slow, and the methods are few.
- Turn in scourgestones. (25 pts each)
- Turn in AD valor tokens. (25 pts each)
- Do cauldron runs. (Just ran 28 of these a couple days ago. I'm vaguely remembering 25-40 pts per turn-in depending on which cauldron.) This is expensive in the sense that you have to buy materials and use materials for each turn-in.
- Grind in WPL, EPL. Seems that mobs 58+ tend to drop Invader's stones while 50-57 are typically Minion's.
- Kill named elites. UD strath and scholo are good for this.

Finally, 1 AD valor token = 20 minion stones, 10 invader stones, 1 corrupter.

So, to get to exhalted, you need to tirelessly run these methods for 6000 pts to go from halfway of honored to Revered, then for 21000 pts to go from revered to exalted.

How can this be sped up at all? Organize a killing party of 5 guildies in which only 1 person has AD commission on, so that he is the only one who can loot stones. The others can get a higher share of drops, etc. or however it works within your guild. Or trade time so that they are assisting you for maxing AD while you assist them with Thorium Brotherhood (TBh)... TB already is Thunder Bluff.

The only thing I may have missed is quest turn-in. I'd say do and turn-in what you can when you can because you're lucky to actually get a 5-man to help you through either strat or scholo competently. Likely isn't worth holding off on quests until halfway from honored to revered.

[bluerex]

Yesterday i ran into a problem. I was doing some quests in the Eastern Plaguelands with a lvl 57 friend, and i myself had just turned 60. We were killing lvl 59 undead, and my friend was gaining reputation with the Argent Dawn for them yet i was not. My own reputation is not even at honored yet, so it has nothing to do with my reputation being too high. I wrote a gm-ticket asking if this was intentional or if it was a bug. The only reply i got was that they tested it and everything was fully functional and i should ask a friend.
Since the gm apparently didn't feel like answering my question, i hope one of the people here will know. Should i not gain any more reputation from killing undead once i hit 60?

You probably forgot to equip the 'Argent Dawn' trinket. I think you to equip it for ur rep to go up with the Argent Dawn.

[bluerex]

While we are on the topic, can someone explain the benefit of getting reps with all the different faction? Besides price discounts in main cities, i dont really see other benefits. i heard u can buy specials from factions, but i need some more details.

[Neenuvar]

You probably forgot to equip the 'Argent Dawn' trinket. I think you to equip it for ur rep to go up with the Argent Dawn.

Actually my trinket was equipped, because i was getting scourgestones.


While we are on the topic, can someone explain the benefit of getting reps with all the different faction? Besides price discounts in main cities, i dont really see other benefits. i heard u can buy specials from factions, but i need some more details.

A good guide can be found here: http://www.wowwiki.com/Reputation
There are more recipes that can be bought at certain reputations that are not (yet) mentioned there, as perhaps there may be more benefits, but this is a pretty good guide i think.

[bluerex]

Actually my trinket was equipped, because i was getting scourgestones.




A good guide can be found here: http://www.wowwiki.com/Reputation
There are more recipes that can be bought at certain reputations that are not (yet) mentioned there, as perhaps there may be more benefits, but this is a pretty good guide i think.

thx for that, i went through the site and now i have a better understanding of reps & factions.

[moopy]

Its always been my impression that its not possible to increase reputation after 60, and recently I got it confirmed. But I noticed you can still increase with Argent Dawn Valor Tokens.

Did I miss something? Is it still possible with some factions and some quests? Do I find a list somewhere?

You did. I have a stack of unused AD tokens in my bag, because my rep is still increasing with they from killing undead in strat and turning in stones. I am at the top end of "honoured" now, and making steady progress.

[KalziEast]

My own reputation is not even at honored yet, so it has nothing to do with my reputation being too high. I wrote a gm-ticket asking if this was intentional or if it was a bug. The only reply i got was that they tested it and everything was fully functional and i should ask a friend.
Since the gm apparently didn't feel like answering my question, i hope one of the people here will know. Should i not gain any more reputation from killing undead once i hit 60?

That's because all GM's believe something like " If I just say something like " It works fine for ME " then he'll either stop asking me, or send another ticket and let another GM worry about it " things like that. I was suspended for asking " What's all the lag for? I'm in desolace ( Where there's maybe 10 people here ) and I'm getting lag spikes every 5 seconds where it lags for 2 seconds and I'm 10 feet further, getting attacked, or trying to run up a giant rock " he replied " You must have some type of UI changing your directory, because everything is fine when I'm here " so I said " Well, I have Cosmos, but World of Warcraft actually suggests I use it, am I wrong? " he replied " Yes, they do support it, but it's most likely the reason why you're lagging, not the server " ( As always, it's not WoW's fault that that level 1 gives 300 experience per kill, it must be an Elite that was accidently put there and you must have a large rest state ) but so I roll my eyes to myself and just stop talking to him and start leveling on some level 39 Elite Ogre's in Alterac Mountains.
My friend messages me asking " Hello, what's taking you so long to reply? " so I quickly say " Sorry, talking to a GM about the lag out in Desolace, he was no help at all " my friend laughed and said " Yeah, as always, it's not a bug, it's meant to be that way, but we'll try to fix that a little so that it's not so hard/easy " and I replied " Yeah, what a d**k, lol " the GM whisped me 10 seconds later " I read everything you were just saying " I said immediately " Okay " " What did I do wrong? " he said " I'll need you to log off " I said " No, what did I do wrong? I was having a private conversation and am about 2 minutes from leveling, what did I do wrong? " he said " Sir, I'll need you to log off " I knew he wanted me to log off so I could be banned or suspended for it to work, so I said " Okay, right after I level, I'll be logging off " he said " No, now I'll help you log off, I hope you enjoyed your stay in the World of Warcraft. Have a nice day. " and 3 seconds later I was logged off, I was about to say " Whatever, f***ing d***head " but he logged me off too quickly.

So yes, I was suspended for 3 days, I sold all my equipment, gave all my gold away to my friends, ( Around 140ish gold ) and then finally quit later that day, over the 3 months, I lost about 12 pounds from not sitting on my a** so yeah...

[bloog]

@lvl 60 only elite undead give rep with AD,not normal ones...And of course the tokens but I'd suggest you keep those for the exalted quest :happy34:
Oh,and try to remember to wear your AD commission when farming undead in Plaguelands :happy14:

After half way friendly, normal mobs don't give reputation increase any more.
After half way honoured, elite mobs don't give reputation increase any more.

As for GMs I wonder what my rep is. I cann't see it byt it must be unfriendly at best. Doing DM north my group trapped this guard. So he froze, but kept patrolling. First we laught, then I wrote a ticket.
The official response was something in the middle of STFU and "your fault". I'm still scared. Won't write another ticket any soon :scared: .

[Zeeboo]

Actually my trinket was equipped, because i was getting scourgestones.




A good guide can be found here: http://www.wowwiki.com/Reputation
There are more recipes that can be bought at certain reputations that are not (yet) mentioned there, as perhaps there may be more benefits, but this is a pretty good guide i think.


Only in Western Plaguelands do you get reputation for actual kills, the same does not apply to Eastern Plaguelands, other than running Straholme. :wave:

[KalziEast]

Lol, yeah, I've been farming West. Plaguelands for 1 level now, only at 1/2 way to Friendly, got 2 total sets of minion scourgestones... So yeah.

[KalziEast]

I think it should be a bit easier to get the scourgestones... Minion's aren't hardly giving anything, so what's the use of " farming " them. The only one " worth it " is the hardest one to get.

[moopy]

While we are on the topic, can someone explain the benefit of getting reps with all the different faction? Besides price discounts in main cities, i dont really see other benefits. i heard u can buy specials from factions, but i need some more details.

Since 1.7, you can now see which reputation-dependant items a vendor sells before you can buy them.

[Valas Azuviir]

As for GMs I wonder what my rep is. I cann't see it byt it must be unfriendly at best. Doing DM north my group trapped this guard. So he froze, but kept patrolling. First we laught, then I wrote a ticket.
The official response was something in the middle of STFU and "your fault". I'm still scared. Won't write another ticket any soon :scared: .

Blood, KalziEast, if I were you I'd report said behaviour to wowgmfeedback-us@blizzard.com or WoWConcernsEU@blizzard.com. dependant on which version you are on. Might be that these GMs aren't just powertripping with you and that there have been other complaints. If not, then you're the first to place the magnifying glass upon their actions.

[Trooogdooor]

some day I want to be like noooo I'm logging you off you c**k sucking son of a useless w***e.... god why do GM's in WoW have to all be morons? who blame everyone but the wonderful blizzard..... last week I used a /rude /spit /fart /moo macro about 60 times on someone who happened to post a GM ticket about it when I was getting repeatedly ganked by them ( they were ?? or else I woulda killed them).... guess what happened? I got a warning... even though there is a GM ticket that can be submitted over camping......like wtf is these guys problem!! I think we need to bring their sexuality into this :D GM= GAY!!!!

[KalziEast]

Blood, KalziEast, if I were you I'd report said behaviour to wowgmfeedback-us@blizzard.com or WoWConcernsEU@blizzard.com. dependant on which version you are on. Might be that these GMs aren't just powertripping with you and that there have been other complaints. If not, then you're the first to place the magnifying glass upon their actions.

Blizzard just has a "Customer's fault" policy for all their employee's.

[KalziEast]

If you don't believe me re-install WoW. It shows on it very discretely that the GM's can do whatever they want, as long as it's "jist" which Blizzard never checks on.

[elfkiller]

I am always grinding argent dawn rep in anticipation of the new rewards in 1.11 and im always doing baron stratholme. while im in there just killing mobs in the combats channel it says my reputation increases, and in my rep tab it does increase. but the problem is that im at 11000 out of 12000 honored to revered. U said im supposed to stop getting rep at 6000? whats happening?

[minerenginer]

If you just do Strat alot you will gain rep. +5 rep a kill not counting bosses and scourgestones.