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MuTTy_Hc
30-07-2005, 07:36 AM
Hi guys :wave:

I've decided one of these classes is going to become my main, I'm after doing some pvp when I get up high, but also I want to be able to get into instances, especially the high level ones. Now on my server the warrior population has skyrocketed, which for a mid level warrior currently is worrying :)

so I thought of the other 3, warlock/ priest holding most of my interest. I know both are an in demand class, priest probably moreso I'd believe? I also know both are good at pvp (provided the right spec), but which will keep me more interested for longer? :chinny:

I like all aspects of pvp in wow, and of course take into account that I want to instance for some nice loot :)

Volja
30-07-2005, 11:29 AM
In my opinion warlock is way more fun, and you will surprise people if you get it right and completely destroy them. With a priest in high level in instances you will do nothing but stare at green bars.

galzohar
30-07-2005, 04:22 PM
Stick to your warrior. Of if you really insist - make a holy priest to heal in BGs and instances.

Sabret
06-08-2005, 12:29 AM
I have a 54 priest and 40 lock and really like em both. Here is my take:

In instances, the warlock is a bit more fun. You have so many options as to how to play and help out the group. With the priest, you stare at ppl's health bars which isnt amazingly fun. However, you do get invited all the time and make many friends, which is a plus in my book.

Outside of instances, my vote is DEFINATELY for the priest. My priest kills very fast (i'm shadow specced), has plenty of utility (how can you go wrong with healing yourself, stuns, instant AoE fear), and is good to PVP with. Don't get me wrong, I like the warlock alot, but he doesnt kill as fast, I haven't figured out PVP as well with him, and the soulshards are kinda getting annoying.

It's up to you and just remember to have fun with any class you play. That's the big thing.

spymoose
16-08-2005, 09:18 PM
Druids are amazing if you know what you're doing. They don't kill fast but are very fun and in PvP are supreme if well played and specced properly.

Priests can be fun but doing instances, MC included, and watching HP bars all day gets VERY boring. I sold my account because of this.

Warlock seems great too, for both PvE and PvP but it also seems like a class that takes a lot of patience and understanding to be successful.

Warrior is fine, I wouldn't worry. Just because there are a lot of Warriors doesn't mean they are good. One good Warrior is what people want, not 1000 bad ones. So if you want to play your Warrior, go ahead. Work at him, learn the class, play well, gear up and you'll have no trouble getting into decent guilds/groups; especially when you make good impressions. And Warriors are far from bad in PvP.

Amyss
16-08-2005, 09:50 PM
If you want people to love you...go priest. If you want people to hide behind you...go warrior. If you want everybody to point and laugh at you...go warlock. And if you want everybody to misunderstand you...go druid.

Thelorax
17-08-2005, 01:43 AM
And if you want everybody to misunderstand you...go druid.

haha. I love joining a group for like ZF or Maraudon and someone saying that I can tank as a druid... No... I really can't. Especially with a group full of damage dealers.

Even a completely feral spec'd druid would have trouble holding aggro.

or better yet, I can heal and tank!! yay!

unothesmurf
17-08-2005, 10:26 AM
my vote goes druid.... THE utility class and u pwn CTF.

phlame
19-08-2005, 09:30 PM
I have tried all classes, and I have to say that, the warlock caught my eye real fast, it is more of a challenge than a priest, or warrior, and cant heal very well, but if you know your stuff, you can take down an opponent in a matter of time. The only problems I can think of right now, are that the warlock takes a lot of mana for his spells in the beginning of the game (thatll wear off eventually) they cant heal, and they dont exactly get that much stamina, unless you get an enchanter to enchant your clothing EVERY TIME YOU GET NEW CLOTHING, advice, keep your warrior.

Then again, if you play priest, your safest bet is to go solo for the most part, you may not be very revered in bg (unless youre a shadow priest) but, as said before, staring at green bars all the time gets VEEEEEEEEERY boring after awhile. If you want to be able to heal your group/raid members and let them kick the a§es of your enemies while you stay back and heal, as if you were a walking medical kit, then get a holy priest. eventually, you will also get an attack (cant remember the name right now) that will cause 400 damage to the enemy non-crit, I got it at lvl 20.

But, if you want to do everything the easy way, youre gonna want to keep your warrior, they can aggro, wear mail, kill enemies with mele attacks without having to worry about having too little mana, theyre the best choice if you dont need ranged attacks to defeat enemies and you can get close enough to use battle charge (or whatever its called) before the enemy notices you every time you go into battle on PvP, keep your warrior.

Then again, if you want to be able to use both leather armor AND spells, both mediocre healing and not so much better attack spells, go druid, youll be best off when grouping in bg, because you can heal party/raid members with not so much as pet aggro, as well as kill enemies with melee attacks (bear form) sneak attacks (cat form) and spells against your enemies. If you think you can manage all that, then druid is your safest bet.(a little hint, use melee attacks on spellcasters, they wont be able to charge their spells as quickly.)

Hope this helps.

Thelorax
19-08-2005, 11:35 PM
But, if you want to do everything the easy way, youre gonna want to keep your warrior, they can aggro, wear mail, kill enemies with mele attacks without having to worry about having too little mana, theyre the best choice if you dont need ranged attacks to defeat enemies and you can get close enough to use battle charge (or whatever its called) before the enemy notices you every time you go into battle on PvP, keep your warrior.



Nothing easy about playing as a Warrior. It takes a lot more strategy then most classes. no battle healing besides potions, few ways to escape, little crowd control...

very rewarding to play, but I get frustrated when I solo and have to deal with adds.

toader
19-08-2005, 11:39 PM
I vote you play the priest.

I hear that they melt faces in PvP.

phlame
20-08-2005, 01:47 AM
Nothing easy about playing as a Warrior. It takes a lot more strategy then most classes. no battle healing besides potions, few ways to escape, little crowd control...

What are you talking about!? The warrior can
A. kill enemies in a matter of melee hits
B. no mana needed (only rage, wich builds up, and only goes down after a battle)
C. can use the highest strength in armor (mail)
D. in my opinion, can kill enimies easier than any other class ive ever played
E. you cant exactly kill something 4 lvls higher than you with ease on a normal basis with any other char, now can you? Especcially when that char has to use mana (I.E. druid)

Thelorax
20-08-2005, 03:22 AM
What are you talking about!? The warrior can
A. kill enemies in a matter of melee hits
B. no mana needed (only rage, wich builds up, and only goes down after a battle)
C. can use the highest strength in armor (mail)
D. in my opinion, can kill enimies easier than any other class ive ever played
E. you cant exactly kill something 4 lvls higher than you with ease on a normal basis with any other char, now can you? Especcially when that char has to use mana (I.E. druid)

Anyone who treats the warrior class like a walking brick with a big sword isn't going to last past level 10... between 1-10 I solo'd everything, but that is where it ended

spymoose
20-08-2005, 03:22 AM
What are you talking about!? The warrior can
A. kill enemies in a matter of melee hits
B. no mana needed (only rage, wich builds up, and only goes down after a battle)
C. can use the highest strength in armor (mail)
D. in my opinion, can kill enimies easier than any other class ive ever played
E. you cant exactly kill something 4 lvls higher than you with ease on a normal basis with any other char, now can you? Especcially when that char has to use mana (I.E. druid)


Ummm...

A. If you're talking PvP, this isn't true through most of the game. MC loot Warriors this is true. Until then, not at all.
B. Okay, it still needs to generate in order to use and starts from zero, not like energy starting full.
C. Highest is Plate and yes, they use it. So do Paladins, who heal.
D. What are you smoking? If you're talking about PvE, try a Hunter or Rogue. If you're talking PvP you've either got amazing gear or the players you attack suck. Warriors are great PvPers but far from the "quickest killers".
E. Funny you should say Druid, one of the classes most people agree are easiest to kill a higher class with.

I don't even play a Warrior and I noticed so many things wrong with your post. Warriors are Very tough to learn AND play well. Switching stances when needed in instances and PvP takes practice and understanding. You also need so much gear at end-game, such as a fire resist set, instance set, PvP set, etc. I'm not coming here saying they're the hardest to play, but are far from the easiest.

starlitsky
20-08-2005, 05:17 PM
E. you cant exactly kill something 4 lvls higher than you with ease on a normal basis with any other char, now can you? Especcially when that char has to use mana (I.E. druid)

I've done it with priest, shaman and hunter so far, provided there are no adds. sure, i'm practically pixels from death when i do it, but i can, if i have to. :) I'm under the impression that a good mage can do it too, provided that there's only 1. And i'm definitely Paladins can do it, being mail wearing, invincible-bubble-casting, self-healing melee'ers they are.

phlame
21-08-2005, 01:36 AM
I've done it with priest, shaman and hunter so far, provided there are no adds. sure, i'm practically pixels from death when i do it, but i can, if i have to. :) I'm under the impression that a good mage can do it too, provided that there's only 1. And i'm definitely Paladins can do it, being mail wearing, invincible-bubble-casting, self-healing melee'ers they are.

I suppose this would be the time to say, i rest my case. I said that you can kill them easily with a warrior, even with adds

phlame
21-08-2005, 01:38 AM
Ummm...

A. If you're talking PvP, this isn't true through most of the game. MC loot Warriors this is true. Until then, not at all.
B. Okay, it still needs to generate in order to use and starts from zero, not like energy starting full.
C. Highest is Plate and yes, they use it. So do Paladins, who heal.
D. What are you smoking? If you're talking about PvE, try a Hunter or Rogue. If you're talking PvP you've either got amazing gear or the players you attack suck. Warriors are great PvPers but far from the "quickest killers".
E. Funny you should say Druid, one of the classes most people agree are easiest to kill a higher class with.

I don't even play a Warrior and I noticed so many things wrong with your post. Warriors are Very tough to learn AND play well. Switching stances when needed in instances and PvP takes practice and understanding. You also need so much gear at end-game, such as a fire resist set, instance set, PvP set, etc. I'm not coming here saying they're the hardest to play, but are far from the easiest.

Right, sure, lets hear what you have to say then smarty pants!

phlame
21-08-2005, 01:41 AM
Anyone who treats the warrior class like a walking brick with a big sword isn't going to last past level 10... between 1-10 I solo'd everything, but that is where it ended

Really, well it was alot esier than warlock, druid, or priest, as far as ive played them (lvl 47)

Diesl
01-09-2005, 03:54 PM
Ummm...

A. If you're talking PvP, this isn't true through most of the game. MC loot Warriors this is true. Until then, not at all.
B. Okay, it still needs to generate in order to use and starts from zero, not like energy starting full.
C. Highest is Plate and yes, they use it. So do Paladins, who heal.
D. What are you smoking? If you're talking about PvE, try a Hunter or Rogue. If you're talking PvP you've either got amazing gear or the players you attack suck. Warriors are great PvPers but far from the "quickest killers".
E. Funny you should say Druid, one of the classes most people agree are easiest to kill a higher class with.

I don't even play a Warrior and I noticed so many things wrong with your post. Warriors are Very tough to learn AND play well. Switching stances when needed in instances and PvP takes practice and understanding. You also need so much gear at end-game, such as a fire resist set, instance set, PvP set, etc. I'm not coming here saying they're the hardest to play, but are far from the easiest.I agreee...I have a 60 warrior on Bloodscalp and am here to tell you they are far from easy. Plate is your friend that is certain. But they attack very slow. I have killed Rouges after they stunned me and beat on me for 10 sec. with three hits all three crits all between 1000 and 2200. 3 hits is all it takes ... The key is if I crit, 25% chance to crit and sometimes I get whipped becuase I didn't crit the whole fight. Then you have to know what stance to be in There are three and they are all night and day. Plus you are so gear dependent it is far from funny. They ar etuff an dthey hit like trucks but they are slow and helpless aginst Druids and Mages.. In my experience anyways.

moopy
01-09-2005, 04:16 PM
In my opinion warlock is way more fun, and you will surprise people if you get it right and completely destroy them. With a priest in high level in instances you will do nothing but stare at green bars.

Maybe I've been doing it wrong all this time, then. Funny that no-one has told me that I've been making such a dreadful faux pas, but I have a whale of a time in high level instances. Funny that the group doesn't wipe constantly too.

Does one need a special facial expression or hat while staring? Are you only allowed to stare while the bars are green? Should I inform an adult, if they turn yellow?

"I'll get me coat"

DrunkCajun
01-09-2005, 04:33 PM
I'm amused by those who are saying that warlock's can't kill fast. How's 5-6 seconds?

1. CoS/Seduce simultaneously
2. Shadowbolt
3. Shadowburn

Between the Curse of Shadows, and a crit on either of the two damage spells, you're looking at close to 3k damage before your opponent can blink an eyelash, provided you catch them first. For a squishy class like a mage, that's lights-out. If they're not so squishy? Red-seduce and re-nuke.

And yes, there are certainly ways to kill those immune to fear/seduce. It's just more fun when they can't do anything but watch. :teeth:

Eskodas
01-09-2005, 05:46 PM
We've got to stop being so touchy about our classes people, from experience the most difficuly one to get a grip of is the one played badly.

'Cept for locks, everyone know's they couldn't fight their way out of a wet paper bag without a priest along to help :P


(j/k)

jibbrish
01-09-2005, 07:36 PM
Hi guys :wave:

I've decided one of these classes is going to become my main, I'm after doing some pvp when I get up high, but also I want to be able to get into instances, especially the high level ones. Now on my server the warrior population has skyrocketed, which for a mid level warrior currently is worrying :)

so I thought of the other 3, warlock/ priest holding most of my interest. I know both are an in demand class, priest probably moreso I'd believe? I also know both are good at pvp (provided the right spec), but which will keep me more interested for longer? :chinny:

I like all aspects of pvp in wow, and of course take into account that I want to instance for some nice loot :)

There really isn't a bad class to play and if you have the time, try them all out. Regardless of which class you stick with, knowing how other classes work will only help you in groups.

I can recommend priest as a fun class to play, very in demand for any instance and they are rumoured to melt faces in PvP.

Tollin
02-09-2005, 02:05 AM
If you want people to love you...go priest. If you want people to hide behind you...go warrior. If you want everybody to point and laugh at you...go warlock. And if you want everybody to misunderstand you...go druid.


Funny, I have never been pointed or laughed at? Toader? DrunkCajon have you? Nope, as a matter of fact I have to turn down requests for help when I play, I just can't do three instances at the same time.

Guess being a warlock really sucks then. I mean I can summon, give out healthstones, soulstone the healer. I have a curse for every situation imaginable, can crowd control, heal myself, use my demons... And the free mount at lvl 40, that is just terrible I mean come on!

but we suck then eh?

Oh well...

To help out the original poster. A well played warlock is very hard to beat in PvP or PvE. So is a well played priest. It just depends on what you want to do in-game? Start two alts, priest and warlock play them both and decide from there, that is my advice.

WingedNazgul
02-09-2005, 05:33 PM
If you want people to love you...go priest. If you want people to hide behind you...go warrior. If you want everybody to point and laugh at you...go warlock. And if you want everybody to misunderstand you...go druid.

When I was levelling up my Warrior, I used to group regularly with Warlocks and learned to appreciate their value to the group. It just seemed like they made a good group even better. I loved having the Imp buff and Healthstones, loved the summoning, loved the wipe protection from soulstones, loved the crowd control from CoR, Seduce, Banish, and even the well-timed Fear.

In fact, I loved it so much I rolled a Warlock and made it my second level 60 character. 6/8 Felheart, Robe of Volatile Power, plus assorted +Damage/Crit gear and I can hold my own in the damage charts during our MC/Onyxia runs.

Warlocks rock.

Talos
06-09-2005, 02:53 AM
Then again, if you play priest, your safest bet is to go solo for the most part, you may not be very revered in bg (unless youre a shadow priest) but, as said before, staring at green bars all the time gets VEEEEEEEEERY boring after awhile. If you want to be able to heal your group/raid members and let them kick the a§es of your enemies while you stay back and heal, as if you were a walking medical kit, then get a holy priest. eventually, you will also get an attack (cant remember the name right now) that will cause 400 damage to the enemy non-crit, I got it at lvl 20.
What are you talking about? The only nuke we get at level 20 is holy fire, and that does around 100 damage +35 over 10 seconds. We have no level 20 nuke that does 400 damage, crit or otherwise.

osioniusx
23-05-2006, 12:54 AM
Hi guys :wave:

I've decided one of these classes is going to become my main, I'm after doing some pvp when I get up high, but also I want to be able to get into instances, especially the high level ones. Now on my server the warrior population has skyrocketed, which for a mid level warrior currently is worrying :)

so I thought of the other 3, warlock/ priest holding most of my interest. I know both are an in demand class, priest probably moreso I'd believe? I also know both are good at pvp (provided the right spec), but which will keep me more interested for longer? :chinny:

I like all aspects of pvp in wow, and of course take into account that I want to instance for some nice loot :)

A properly spec'd and itemized feral druid kicks. Someone said "they don't kill fast but are fun". This is pre-1.9 or not feral spec'd. Feral Druids can definitely DPS and take down people fast. A lot of players don't know this, however, as the class has dramatically changed recently. It is only now getting acceptable for feral druids to come into raids for DPS... and not for tanking or healing.

This said, do take note of all of the misperceptions out there. They are not entirely because everyone played pre-1.9. There are a lot of badly played druids are there. The class is extremely difficult to play right. If played right, however, they are very fun.

Icefrost
23-05-2006, 12:19 PM
Druid is the Jack of all Trades.
Enough said.

wesje
23-05-2006, 01:07 PM
but master of none, just like u :)

warrior - chopchop
hunter - hugg animals
druid - be animals
rogue - from behind
priest - choirboys
warlock - join the darkside luke
shaman - hits n sum sticks
paladin - bubbleboys

That should give u ur answer

Raistlin Majere
23-05-2006, 06:39 PM
Dude, the Druid patch was 1.8. 1.9 was the Pally patch.

iamthejuggler
24-05-2006, 06:50 PM
Pallies had a patch?! (jk)

Phlame, you don't seem to know what you're talking about most of the time, keep posting. It's making my day at work go more happily!

Thelorax
24-05-2006, 10:31 PM
I can't play a Hunter. I fully respect getting beaten by one though... The class is so freaken versatile if played correctly.

I can't work the hand-eye coordination to keep pressing all those freaken buttons. That's why mine is permasitting on Kel'Thuzad at level 49.

Plus he's Alliance...ew

Phelix
25-05-2006, 02:57 PM
I'm amused by those who are saying that warlock's can't kill fast. How's 5-6 seconds?

1. CoS/Seduce simultaneously
2. Shadowbolt
3. Shadowburn

Between the Curse of Shadows, and a crit on either of the two damage spells, you're looking at close to 3k damage before your opponent can blink an eyelash, provided you catch them first. For a squishy class like a mage, that's lights-out. If they're not so squishy? Red-seduce and re-nuke.

And yes, there are certainly ways to kill those immune to fear/seduce. It's just more fun when they can't do anything but watch. :teeth:


Mages can do the same thing? Poly + Fireball + PoM Pyroblast.. That... Hurts?

But yes.. Warlocks have an advantage over Mages in Warlock vs Mage 1v1.

Icefrost
26-05-2006, 01:55 AM
But yes.. Warlocks have an advantage over Mages in Warlock vs Mage 1v1.
And again, comparing these 4 classes only to each other is not the right move.
Warlocks & Priests are so overtalked about, that I will not support either. Plus, my server seems to be literally INFESTED with Undead Shadowpriests.
Yes, I play alliance.
Mage can be fun if you like to not get your hands dirty in a fight.
A good druid is the most impossible to kill -target after paladins. And I'm not saying they will own you. You just simply can't catch them. Let alone run away from one.

edandor
27-05-2006, 06:12 PM
this is in response to the guy saying that at lv 20 he got a spell that does 400 damage with his priest. i would just like to point out that at lv 20, if a priest has put all of his points in the shadow tree, they will get mind flay. when you look around the internet it shows that it does like 400+ damage, but that is when you get to lv 60, it doesnt do 400 damage right away. it only does 75 damage when you get it, but it is used more to slow enemies down rather than doing damage.

iamthejuggler
30-05-2006, 11:14 AM
erm ... mindflay is one of a shadowpriests main damage dealers, with talents in shadow plus and in shadowform it does excellent damage and is very mana efficient. Mindblast has a cooldown so between the big nukes you spam mindflay. If you think it isn't used for damage you haven't played a shadowpriest.

s4nder
03-06-2006, 05:29 PM
Druid is the Jack of all Trades.
Enough said.

Master of none.

OT: Haha, I love it when people end their post with "enough said". It leaves the impression that they possess some greater knowledge on the subject but only reveal a little bit of it.

Anyway, in my opinion the two most fun classes are the warlock and the shaman. Too bad shamans are forced into healing roles in high-end raids. Both classes are fun to play and very rewarding, because they can fill many roles without respecing. Then again, this is only me. I suggest playing all classes to about lvl 20 and going on with the one you like the most.

Mediterranean
04-06-2006, 01:08 AM
Dies,
or a good hunter too ;)