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14-12-2005, 07:04 PM
I'm too low.

The reason I'm asking is on my server I rarely see Alterac Valley runs going on.

"/who Alterac Valley" comes up with noone doing it, yet WSG and AB are usually running.

Jondar
14-12-2005, 08:01 PM
Ive done it a few times, and it is definitely intensive, but in order to survive youre really gotta be 60. Im not 60 yet. And besides, everyone heads over to AB now anyway. AV is fun, but it can get old. The battles all take place on the one road; AB is nicer, as you get a change of scenery every now and then.

DarksideKarma
14-12-2005, 09:39 PM
I don't play AV that often because the matches can last for hours and hours and hours and hours and hours. AB games are quick, you get better honor, and the games last max of 30 minutes. I usually don't do AV unless its a holiday and everyone is in it. It's been a long process on the road to getting exalted.

NocturneNight
14-12-2005, 09:46 PM
Was real fed up with it on my rogue when exalted, and it was the only BG people played.. Arathi Basin was a blessing when it came.

However I do like it, and can't wait to try it out and grind up another char/class to exalted in it. =)

Min lvl for AV is 51. The brackets have been changed for both the other BGs to 10-19, 20-29 etc instead of 21-30, 30-40. Doesnt this give AV two brackets of, one 51-59 and one for 60s only? The major problems with AV before was all the lowlevels.. If they still use the old model for AV, yeah, you pretty damned well need to be 60.

WingedNazgul
14-12-2005, 09:52 PM
Got my Warrior to Exalted and got the TUF, Don Julio's, and epic trinket (really nice for tanking BTW).

Now I'm almost to Honored with my Warlock. Since I'm only doing it for the awesome off-hand, there's no real rush and just plan on playing on Holidays with my lock.

Bokar
16-12-2005, 04:31 PM
I've never even tried to go to AV. I have occasional lag problems in WG, worse in AB near the Blacksmith Shop. I was also lagged the hell out in Scholo until the number of mobs was reduced. So a 40 vs. 40 fight sounds unplayable to me. Heck, 20 vs. 20 at XR is pretty bad.

thazandril
16-12-2005, 07:52 PM
Personally why I dont like it:

1. It laggs, and then a rogue comes behind and owns me (Im a mage here)
2. Alliance never wins, and on my server probably claims to be the worst alliance side of all time
3. Little honor you get from kills, rather do AB where I get avg. +100 honor per kill.
4. AFKers (around 2-3 each AV)

so thats a no

det
17-12-2005, 10:37 AM
I do it, it is fun while it lasts (usually I leave after 2 hours..gotta have a life) and it just skyrockets your lifetime kills :innocent:

But we never get further than Stormthingy Graveyard. After that it is usually getting pushed back all the way to Frostwolf Keep.

Earthen Ring=the place where an AV battle lasted 48 hours.....

Starwind
19-12-2005, 10:55 AM
I do it, it is fun while it lasts (usually I leave after 2 hours..gotta have a life) and it just skyrockets your lifetime kills :innocent:

But we never get further than Stormthingy Graveyard. After that it is usually getting pushed back all the way to Frostwolf Keep.

Earthen Ring=the place where an AV battle lasted 48 hours.....
I remember that AV, though i only stayed the first 2 hours You guys usually get to stonehearth and then it gets boring because you zerged it and its just you push, we push, you push, we push and then its an annoying stand off until someone makes a distraction which is either a stealth team or you all zerg that lady in the keep. Though next time i see you in AB Nerghul im going for you. :innocent:

det
19-12-2005, 12:52 PM
Hm..Starwind sounds familiar. Do you play a Druid? In which case we had the honor to meet in AB already. Visit me at the farm flag or LM flag where I like to hang out and we see how it goes :)

porps
19-12-2005, 05:59 PM
i dont do it as much as i'd like to (time constraints) but i much prefer it to ab. AV kinda feels like a real battle, where as ab seems like something copied from a FPS game. On my server horde wins ab and alliance wins av (from what i've seen)

Aerath
20-12-2005, 10:44 AM
Yet to try AV, but am sure it won't be long till I go visit the place.

Just been too busy grinding up levels and rep w/ furbags rather than AV Rep + HK farming :)

thazandril
20-12-2005, 03:27 PM
Actually I think it would be more effective if they make a temporary TS/Ventrilo server, and make everyone in that current AV/AB join it, and then instead of typing you can talk into your mic and tell everyone tactics etc. oh and people should be able to vote out AFKers. :P

SirBazturd
26-12-2005, 05:21 PM
On my server, it is the only battleground option if you are in your 50s. Which is terrible because if you are not 60, it is really difficult.


So I am finishing the grind to 60 (1/2 way through 58) so I can get into some ABs again.

Valas Azuviir
26-12-2005, 07:25 PM
where as ab seems like something copied from a FPS game.

That is, because it essentially is. Try the Unreal Tournament series and in particular the: Assault games.

WSG is a Capture the Flag type of game, equally found in fps.

Only AV is a tad more like the rest of WoW, with a bit of Battlefield series or America's Army tossed in for good measure.

5zigen
26-12-2005, 07:57 PM
Av is skillless nonsense. But its done anyway to get the rewards...

AB and WSG to some extent take some tactics to win. AV is just a zergfest. Who has more damage ect.

Qwertius
30-12-2005, 12:09 AM
It CERTAINLY is a zergfest, but that's only part of it.

skilled teams and tactics make you win, and win more and quicker. (all the while the zergfest still continues of course, but besides that there are a lot of nice things you can do)


I love it and I hate it. I need only 6,000 rep for full exalted. I cannot believe somebody would actually do this again for a second character

WingedNazgul
30-12-2005, 11:43 AM
I love it and I hate it. I need only 6,000 rep for full exalted. I cannot believe somebody would actually do this again for a second character

*raises hand*

OutThisLIfe
30-12-2005, 12:15 PM
I'm too low level, but from what I've read from here it sounds awesome.
So, I'm going to do it.

det
30-12-2005, 09:38 PM
It CERTAINLY is a zergfest,....
I love it and I hate it.

Indeed.

WSG weekend atm..so nobody in AB but AV was up. It does require skill..not really in fighting in the mass 20 on 20 battle at Field of strife, but the coordination and the willingness to cooperate is certainly something that I don't have the nerve for. (at least not for more than 2 hours)

5zigen
31-12-2005, 12:17 AM
Indeed.

WSG weekend atm..so nobody in AB but AV was up. It does require skill..not really in fighting in the mass 20 on 20 battle at Field of strife, but the coordination and the willingness to cooperate is certainly something that I don't have the nerve for. (at least not for more than 2 hours)

I agree that it can be fun but maybe i just think that because horde on my server cant win anything else. the nice thing is that no one seems too overpoered in AV (except maybe hunters) whereas in WSG Travel form druid + psychic scream priest + Blessing of freedom paladin = win.

Raistlin Majere
31-12-2005, 07:09 AM
Av is skillless nonsense. But its done anyway to get the rewards...

AB and WSG to some extent take some tactics to win. AV is just a zergfest. Who has more damage ect.
AV if anything requires strategy, tatics are for smaller forms of battle.

I love AV, but on my server its a rarity due to the population imbalance, the Horde being honor farmers, and this one glitch that made the bosses impossible to kill, leading to an AV match that supposivly lasted 4 days. Its a reputation fest, in one match I had friendly half full:xmas21:

SpiritWalker
31-12-2005, 02:36 PM
AV.. I hate AV, but yet I play AV for rep and honor, mostly rep. Why do I hate AV, because it's so damned obvious horde biased. Blizzard fix that damn bunker jump already will ya, I don't care that Horde sucks monkey balls on other servers and that you have to make it easy for them, I would like to win an AV more than once every 100AV's.. at midnight.. during a school/work week!