WoW official forum mods: [not nice people]

[Draksen]

Hello all
Just a quick input to say that I start to get sick of the behaviour of the moderators on WoW official site.
The Thungbot or whatever his name is, is an idiot, who only copy paste totally OT links when you need help, and also close or delete threads.
Last example:
I posted

Very interesting readings:
http://www.rootkit.com/blog.php?newsid=358

http://weblog.infoworld.com/foster/2005/10/18.html

http://www.alternet.org/columnists/story/26402/

and get banned from the forum and thread deleted.
And you know what reason they invoked??
"Posting link relative to trojanhorse, viruses and/or spywares"
Laughable.
The truth seems to hurt those idiots.
Long live to non official forums.
Censureship is high on the WoW official forum:
no liberty to speak or express any kind of opinion that may go against them.

[Davemetalhead]

You may be annoyed, but please edit your post to remove any Nazi reference. That is far more offensive that what they did to you.

[Kitsu]

I'm offended that you are offended by the word Nazi. I think he should change it to Jews instead. I think that would be more politically correct. :P

[Draksen]

if it is offensive: good.
I really hopw it is.
I cancelled my account.

[Davemetalhead]

Heh, I'm not offended by the word; I am offended if someone is called a Nazi, just because they do their job ... (and assuming, of course, that they don't belong to a Nazi Party)

[Aerath]

I'm fairly close to just booting people out of the forum for their behaviour here.
Racism, flaming etc etc.

I see anymore of that and bansticks will be waved.

[jengelke]

Good man, Aerath.

On topic, yes, I have heard nothing but bad from the customer service of Blizzard, either with their forum mods, GM's or any other PR positions. Coming from another MMO that has excellent service, this is kinda a let down. Heck, I could usually expect a GM response on my other MMO in the gaming session, whereas I'm lucky to get an email 12 hours from when I submitted the ticket. Ah well, what will be, will be, I suppose.

[Houdy]

The official WoW forums are only good for official blue posts...
haven't you guys learned that by now?

[Xaero]

You read the official forums? then complain about the mods here? Perhaps contacting the ACLU will yield you more sympathy.

[Gaelan]

Personally, the official Blizz forum mods need to wave their ban stick more often. There's so many tard posters on the general forums there that I don't think they censor posters enough.

So many are trolls under different alts its so plain to see. Too many nubcakes trying to look cool and feel good about themselves, flaming others, talking nonsense, stirring up the pot whatever way they can, or complaining about non-issues.

A couple years ago I had to moderate a forum before, its not easy stuff. Anything you do brings attention and the highest amount of scrutiny and analyzation. People will conclude wrongly, accuse mods based on bad assumptions, try to rally others around themselves, twist truth so they save face even when they know they are wrong.

It takes a lot of guts to admit you were wrong, and most people don't have it honestly. Even on a digital forum where you'd never actually meet any of those you are conversing with. They will distort reality to make it appear they were in the right.

What it comes down to is, they will figure out who the jerks are, and treat them accordingly. They may make a mistake every so often, but the majority of the time, the banned people got what was coming.

[Valas Azuviir]

Just as a general observation.

a) Welcome to roughly 4 months ago.
b) Posting about locked threads can get you banned on the official forums.
c) Stirring up trouble on the official forums can be a reason to get banned, considering the last firestorm over this issue.. Spankysticks of Banning +5 are resting loosely in their holsters, because of that.
d) Have you checked the ToU as of late?? It's mentioned in rather large letters that Warden is utilized and what it does. Section 13A (http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/legal/termsofuse.html).
e) Blizzard already has CC + personal info on a whole lot of folks, you'd be amazed what other info you can wiggle out of other organizations if you have the relevant CC and personal data.. So Warden isn't an additional threat.
f) Also see here (http://www.blizzard.com/privacy.shtml).
g) It's also been discussed on this forums before (http://forums.worldofwar.net/showthread.php?t=354911&highlight=Warden).
h) The chap doing the reporting isn't exactly unbiased, as some other observant fellows managed to dig up.
i) And just for the record, Aerath has the patience of a saint, imo. If I'd been a Mod, I would've started banning folks long ago. So take heed of his warning, even saints have their limits.

[Draksen]

I was just discussing this event and giving my opinion.
I did it once.
And as for the bann from here or from the WoW off. forum, I really dont care.
Blizz staff is full or idiots, who doesnt understand the words 'customer service'.
And I am not defending the casual or hardcore trolls, just the guys who complain and HAVE RIGHTS TO DO SO (as we pay for a service)
WoW is my 1st mmorpg experience and will be my last one.
Before trying WoW I was really against paying for a game and also a bit afraid of entering a gaming world in which a company dictate what you have the rights to say and what not.
At the beginning it was ok. But lately I noticed that GM ingame are incompetent, CM in forums are idiotic cowboys, also incompetant obviously.
And above all the game has no end game contents.
So my initial fears are far worse that what I felt before even starting to play.
Blizzard is a big black box, behaving like Microsoft. They GM/CM feel important cause they have the rights to dictate your way of acting and talking. They operate censureship, act without logic, and rarely help you when you really need help.
The comunity is also the worse community I have ever seen on the internet.
But at least those pathetic Thung**** and co. can find there nice audience.
WoW is now over for me.
Just posted that to express my feelings toward the community, the game and the service, cause I am not allowed to do it anymore on the official forum where SS-Oberführer Thung**** and the other idiotic CM operate a strict censureship.
Now I just hope that even if I get banned from this forum (here, worldofwar.net) the friendly moderator will at least keep that thread by respect of the point of view of a former-wow player.
But if you feel that I have offended the rules, please ban me :wink2:
Honestly I DONT CARE.
But still, have nothing vs you (mod) or any other people of this community.
My angryness is 100% focuses toward Thun**** and the W€rld €f W€rcraft incompetent staff.
Best regards,
Draksen

[Metatron]

Think you can run it better yourself? You don't pay for it either. Please would everybody stop saying I PAY for it so I AM RIGHT. You hire their server space and pay the rent monthly, quarterly or however best you see fit. You could not afford to pay for it. That is why you rent it. And all my experiences have been good because unlike you, I am polite and understanding and have a lot of empathy for these guys cause of the amount of £$€# they have to put up with from guys like yourself.

So you've quit. Excellent. One less whining person bringing down the mood of everyone else who enjoys their gaming experience provided by Blizzard. If you have quit why do you still need to whine like a spoilt child about it on the unoffical forums. Days like these I wish I was mod who can ban you from this site and close this thread down. You are offering nothing productive or worthwhile reading from your long rant. And personal attacks against the gm's and forum mod's of the officials who already have their work cut out with morons like yourself is not really welcome.

[Draksen]

Not welcome?
Cause you think that I care, of those pathetic moderators or even more about you?
Who is that Thungsh1t? a mod on wow forum?! lol
you talk about morons, we have there a good example of incompetent moron, yeah.
:laughing:

Have fun fanboy.
Blizzard needs you.
Oh wait, not you, your € ... :thumbsup:

[mesonm]

Good man, Aerath.

On topic, yes, I have heard nothing but bad from the customer service of Blizzard, either with their forum mods, GM's or any other PR positions.

Sorry to burst your bubble, but you can't say that any longer...heh

I submitted a ticket and got a GM response within 30 min, and the situation was resolved 5 min later.

Further, I've heard of folks having boss looting problems that were solved within 24 hours, with the loot off the boss being put into the raid leaders hands.

Sure, nobody is perfect...But, nobody is completely bad either.

[mesonm]

I was just discussing this event and giving my opinion.
I did it once.
And as for the bann from here or from the WoW off. forum, I really dont care.
Blizz staff is full or idiots, who doesnt understand the words 'customer service'.
And I am not defending the casual or hardcore trolls, just the guys who complain and HAVE RIGHTS TO DO SO (as we pay for a service)
WoW is my 1st mmorpg experience and will be my last one.


If you are leaving, then do so...What possible benefit is there by you constantly complaining about a game you no longer play?

Unless you have nothing else to do....

[Metatron]

They can have my € I get value for money and a good game. No. I dont honestly believe that you care about anybody else but yourself and that's kind of tragic but that's the way of the world today I guess. Shame.

[jengelke]

Sorry to burst your bubble, but you can't say that any longer...heh

I submitted a ticket and got a GM response within 30 min, and the situation was resolved 5 min later.

Further, I've heard of folks having boss looting problems that were solved within 24 hours, with the loot off the boss being put into the raid leaders hands.

Sure, nobody is perfect...But, nobody is completely bad either.

Good to hear someone's getting the right customer service, now if they could only get around to the rest of them.

[Gaelan]

The vast majority who've touched the game in some way love it to pieces. There's a few where its just not their cup of tea. And I firmly believe you can't say the game has no endgame... as there's so much I want to do and haven't done yet although I've been only playing the same level 60 character since early July. I'm not Hardcore by any means either. 2 days a week I get to play, sometimes 3, for 3-5 hours each time. I get in 1 or sometimes two ZG runs in per week, and an MC run a couple times a month. I feel I'm progressing at a decent pace and feel I have lots left to do.

If you can't play for 3-5 hours once, or maybe twice a week, I don't know how you are able to go to a theater and watch a movie. Or watch a football game from start to finish. Or watch primetime TV for an evening. Or go to a pro baseball game. etc. All those last for at least 3 hours, counting travel time for some. If you happened to go watch a pro football game in person, generally that's 5-6 hours right there with travel times, more if you tailgate.

[Hettar]

To lift any doubts, Draksen, you will most probably be banned from worldofwar.net forums :)

It's not that we (talking for a least two people here that I know share my views, wouldn't want to talk for everyone ;) ) do not enjoy discusion and arguments, but we don't like useless rants that show more anger than reasonned thoughts and are filled with insults. Comparing CM to Nazis clearly shows you should have paid more attention in history class.

You quit, you made your point by the only real significant to Blizzard, end of story.
Have a nice day.

[snowieken]

Draksen, vent your anger on a boxing ball or something, don't use our forums for that. Your last post is way out of line, and clearly shows that you don't have a clue of what you are actually talking about.

[Xaero]

Draksen.. Hope the door doesn't hit your ass on the way out. Or maybe I do? Either way, good riddence. One less emo kid who thinks the world is entitled to them running around WoW.

Most people I see complaining about the mods or the GMs blindly seem to have no experience moderating forums or even dealing with customer service issues. They see Blizzard as "the man" and just feel like its their God-given right to rebel. I still believe complaining about the Official forum mods on here is asinine. Most of us (from what I can tell) post here to escape the petty BS drama. I don't run to BeyondUnreal forums and complain about the moderation of this site. (Not that I have any complaints).

I do see legitimate arguments and issues with GM/CM occasionally. Your not going to please everybody all the time. But remember, calling them a Nazi like the ignorant punks they are is NOT going help their case in any way.