Gas prices

[Freet]

I have never been one to concern myself over pricing. If I need something that costs x dollars then I don't go looking for somewhere that charges x-1 dollars. I just pay the price and go on with my life.

Lately though I noticed that gas prices has changed me. I was driving down the road yesterday and noticed my gauge showed I had 1/4 tank left. I caught myself wondering if I should go ahead and fill up now, or, if I waited a day or two, would the price go down. As I mentioned, I am not normally one to think this way.

It's almost like we are playing the stock market when buying gas these days. With gas pricing fluctuating so much from day to day, you try to predict market fluctuations so you can judge the best time to fill up. Even if I catch pricing down one day, I will still be paying $35-40 per gallon for a tank, but at least I feel like I didn't get screwed quite so bad when I find the price down a couple of cents.

Why didn't I buy stock in Chevron 20 years ago? :cry:

[Inferknow]

Why didn't I buy stock in Chevron 20 years ago? :cry:

LoL you and a million other people. And i have also noticed that gas is high. NOw im not sure how much it is over their, ut here it is about $2.95 if your lucky. And to fill an empty tank is just to expensive now, so me and most of my other family members fill at half a tank.

[Elly]

LoL you and a million other people. And i have also noticed that gas is high. NOw im not sure how much it is over their, ut here it is about $2.95 if your lucky. And to fill an empty tank is just to expensive now, so me and most of my other family members fill at half a tank.

We pay just under a pound for a litre. Not sure the gallon price (it's stated below on the signs but I never look). I know it's rip-tastic though.

You could get yourself a couple ten gallon cans and fill them up when the price drops. I don't know how much the price is fluctuating over in the US so going to those measures might not be worth it. It's not so much fluctuating as steadily increasing over here so it's more a case of buy it now because it'll be up another point tomorrow.

[Suicidal Zebra]

http://forums.diabloii.net/showthread.php?p=4356305#post4356305

An American gallon is 3.785 litres, rather than 4.546 litres for the imperial gallon. Thus, in the UK (at 96p per litre) we pay roughly £3.63 per US gallon. This equates to (at the current exchange rate of £1 = $1.782) $6.48 per US gallon, or more than double US prices.

:grin:

[Freet]

...I will still be paying $35-40 per gallon for a tank.....

I really should spend more time proof reading my posts. :rolleyes:

I meant to say I would spend $35-40 on a tank, not a gallon.

[Elly]

I really should spend more time proof reading my posts. :rolleyes:

I meant to say I would spend $35-40 on a tank, not a gallon.

I was thinking $35 bucks a gallon, gawd that's steep:)

I had no idea UK prcies worked out to £3.63 for a gallon (http://forums.diabloii.net/showthread.php?p=4356305#post4356305) compared to US. Tax-tastic. That's an unbelieveable difference. I assume it's all tax and the US doesn't get taxed on fuel?

[Duchel]

You have to factor in that in Britain we generally pay more for everything, even after you take taxes out of the equation. I guess we just get screwed as we have no choice but to pay up.

[SaroDarksbane]

Some things to keep in perspective:

If gas goes up 5 cents (enough to make people cry foul), the average 12 gallon tank requiring a fill up once every week will cost you a whopping $2.40 more a month. Put down that mocha and fill up your tank already. If it goes up an eye-popping 10 cents, that's $4.80 more a month, and one less fast food trip will get you there.

Europe pays a lot more for gas, but you also need it less there due to the higher density, smaller land areas, and thus more expedient public transportation.

Adjusting for inflation, the "enormous" increases in gas price recently have bumped it back up to what it cost in 1980.

Oil company profits on a gallon of gas: 10 cents.
Federal/State Tax on a gallon of gas: 26-68 cents. (AK and NY, respectively)

Honestly, I'm thankful I can fill up my car at any price, but when you really look at the numbers, they're not that bad.

[Jagzmtg]

There was a story on the news about a group that offered fixed gas price contracts back in the early 90's. It was so cheap then that hardly anybody signed up for them, though. They interviewed a lady who signed up for one and to this day only pays $0.89 for a gallon of gas. I wish I could find the story somewhere on the internet, but searching is limited at work.

[rgirty]

The issue for me is I have a 70 mile round trip commute to work. I live in a rural area, public transportation is simply not available. Car pooling is not an option either as very few people actually work in my area *disabled, retired* So I am pretty much stuck with 350 miles a week @ 30mpg = 11+ gallons at the going price whatever it may be. If it is $5 or $6 a gallon i'll have to pay it. I own my home I could sell and purchase closer to my workplace however property values in my area are in the toilet. I would have to pay 3 or 4x the amount my house would sell for to buy one that was even close to the same quality near my workplace. My only other option is a motorcycle, on a larger highway that might be considered but on the two lane roads we have...it is not safe.

Just stuck, no matter what the price of gas I have to buy it.

[Freet]

The issue for me is I have a 70 mile round trip commute to work. I live in a rural area, public transportation is simply not available. Car pooling is not an option either as very few people actually work in my area *disabled, retired* So I am pretty much stuck with 350 miles a week @ 30mpg = 11+ gallons at the going price whatever it may be. If it is $5 or $6 a gallon i'll have to pay it. I own my home I could sell and purchase closer to my workplace however property values in my area are in the toilet. I would have to pay 3 or 4x the amount my house would sell for to buy one that was even close to the same quality near my workplace. My only other option is a motorcycle, on a larger highway that might be considered but on the two lane roads we have...it is not safe.

Just stuck, no matter what the price of gas I have to buy it.

Sound like this is the only option left for you...

http://www.onlinesports.com/images/oly-ps080p-3.jpg

[Seeo]

Sound like this is the only option left for you...

http://www.onlinesports.com/images/oly-ps080p-3.jpg
And might I add, the only fuel you'll need to drive that baby is a cup of joe and a good ol' bowl o'Corn Flakes :)

Power to the r00ster!


Seriously here in Canada we pay about $1.00CAD per Liter. I don't feel like doing the math but I think it's more than the U.S. PLUS we have the largest oil reserve in Alberta... go figure.

[Hayek]

I was thinking $35 bucks a gallon, gawd that's steep:)

I had no idea UK prcies worked out to £3.63 for a gallon (http://forums.diabloii.net/showthread.php?p=4356305#post4356305) compared to US. Tax-tastic. That's an unbelieveable difference. I assume it's all tax and the US doesn't get taxed on fuel?

All of Europe taxes gas to an appaling level. There are actually minimum standards for gas taxes set by the European Union..... I recently saw stickers at a German gas station saying that each euro you paid at the pump consisted of 72 cents of taxes. At roughly 7 dollar / gallon (converted for the benefit of our US friends) I surely believe it. The 'nicest' trick is the fact that you also pay the 19% (in case of the Netherlands) Value-Added-Tax on the fuel taxes itself...

The sad part is that while everone groans about it, very few people want to make a political issue out of it. Annoying drivers has been very popular among politicians in this corner of the world over the past 30 years.... :banghead:

[SpiritWalker]

Freet, just always tank for 25$, then you never have to worry about a high gas tanking bill.

[Hayek]

Freet, just always tank for 25$, then you never have to worry about a high gas tanking bill.

:grin: Until the day comes that you won't make it to the next station on 25 bucks...... :devil:

[Freet]

Freet, just always tank for 25$, then you never have to worry about a high gas tanking bill.
I see this as a more expensive and aggrivating way to keep up with the fuel issue. Pulling over to get gas requires gas. Doing this more often means you are using more gas. Not to mention the time wasted in the process.

So the end result is more expense and time spent on something that I hate doing. Not an option IMO.

[Ju Smurph]

I do a 40mile (60km here in Aust) round trip in city traffic. Glad i brought myself a Corolla :wink:. Feul here is currently between $1.30 - $1.45 a Litre...

[Xlorep DarkHelm]

The issue for me is I have a 70 mile round trip commute to work. I live in a rural area, public transportation is simply not available. Car pooling is not an option either as very few people actually work in my area *disabled, retired* So I am pretty much stuck with 350 miles a week @ 30mpg = 11+ gallons at the going price whatever it may be. If it is $5 or $6 a gallon i'll have to pay it. I own my home I could sell and purchase closer to my workplace however property values in my area are in the toilet. I would have to pay 3 or 4x the amount my house would sell for to buy one that was even close to the same quality near my workplace. My only other option is a motorcycle, on a larger highway that might be considered but on the two lane roads we have...it is not safe.

Just stuck, no matter what the price of gas I have to buy it.

I've resembled that remark. I have a 60 mile round trip commute to work, live in a rural area where public transportation costs about 5 - 10x what gasoline would cost (I kid you not, we're talking a month pass for the bus costs around $300, and that's only to go from one town to the other, then there is the bus cost in each of the two towns to consider that stacks on top of that). That said, I actually bought myself a hybrid at the beginning of the year... for a small SUV (Ford Escape), I've been getting around 31 - 32 miles/gallon (it would be more if I was not having to go outside of the town as much) -- and that's even including a set of hills between the two towns. Not bad, as I'm able to usually stretch my refills to about once every 10 days (sometimes 9, sometimes 11, depends on what else I am doing through the week). Only cost me $2k more to get the hybrid model over the non-hybrid model, and I'm pretty sure I'll more than make up for that after 1 year of driving (comparing the normal mileage for the Escape compared to the hybrid mileage).

[TeamRamrod]

Dang just when i think our gas prices are bad (U.S, arizona, 1.90 gallon) i remember how bad europe has it! its no wonder alot of you guys use public transportation. and did someone say $300 for a bus pass!? wow ours is like $20. and to think....its only gonna get worse as the world has less and less oil in the future :sad:

[Primes]

Dang just when i think our gas prices are bad (U.S, arizona, 1.90 gallon)

1.9 a gallon?!?!?!?!!?!?!?!?!!?!? DId you mean to type 2.9 a gallon? Thats over a dollar cheaper than everywhere I have been in the past 6 months!!!!!!!!

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Not that I am really complaining, my commute to work is .7 miles. Which means I could fill my tank up once a year if I didnt drive anywhere besides work...

[TeamRamrod]

Oh woops, yeah i meant 2.90, morning brain fart. but with my celica i usually only drop $20 a week :azn:

[Stigg]

I drive a stretch hummer. I get about 2 mpg highway and 1/2 mpg city. But boy do I look cool!

[rgirty]

up to $2.99 here today. I'm at $30+ per week commute vehicle only.

Our "family" vehicle, the one we take everywhere else *shopping, visiting relatives etc* takes in about $70.

So, 5K annually for gasoline. /cheer

[Serendipite]

The End of the Cheap Oil Era.

http://www.lifeaftertheoilcrash.net/

Make up your own mind !

[rgirty]

Yes, I speak to many people mostly my relatives who are upset over gas prices.

They are usually drinking some sort of beverage, at this point I tell them that the container they are drinking from not only needs fossil fuels to be created the truck bringing it to the store is fossil fuel based. A lot of people in my area are converting to natural gas as it is much cheaper, it really is basically all the same thing. At somepoint fossil fuels will become depleted, if we don't have an alternate source of energy by then saying we will have a problem is an understatement.

[TeamRamrod]

you can bet your ass that there is a possibility of an alternate fuel source pretty soon (i.e. hydrogen fuel cells, or some other technology) but the government makes sooo much $$ on the taxes from oil and the cars the use gasoline. so why would they invest funds in the research for newer technology? if all the cars started running on vegetable oil (forgot the term for that fuel) people would make it themselves and the goverment would lose out on a ton of revenue. Condidering the cost of research for this, car companies would implement it into the cost of these vehicles and not alot of consumers would be able to afford it, thus a vicious circle. Also it doesnt help when we got a retarded oil tycoon (ughhh dont even wanna start on this idiot) for a president, he's not gonna push for an alternate fuel. So i would'nt expect to see this alternate fuel until the world gets really desperate or we all stop using gas (like that will happen). just my 2 copper

[Seeo]

The End of the Cheap Oil Era.

http://www.lifeaftertheoilcrash.net/

Make up your own mind !

This is some scary stuff...

Something else comes to mind... how long will we be able to play WoW for?

Seriously, the time is NOW that we must start using different sources of energy, like right ****ing now. Leave the oil to the ones who need it. If we were to make ALL cars run off Fusion energy or Hydrogen or Vegetable oil, then that would extend the use of oil till way passed 2050. But the world is greedy, spoiled and just not given the choice by our leaders.

I know it goes much deeper than that, conspiracies and secrets and whatnot...

The Fuel Crash is almost here.

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[rgirty]

The Fuel Crash is almost here.


With many schools in America preparing to begin the fall session prepare to be bombarded with news stories about.... yep, you guessed it. Less bus routes, or the elimination of bus transportation for schoolchildren all together.

Either that, OR raising taxes locally to supply the schools with more money *not going to happen*

Guess what this does for us? 50 cars take 75 kids to school in the morning instead of 1 bus taking them all. Even more fuel being consumed.

Now, imagine this happening with every school, in every district, in every state in the entire United States.

In the next two weeks gasoline consumption will increase even more.

Just to make things a little worse, my state just passed a law that states "if you are under 18 years of age you may only have one other occupant in the vehicle".

Guess what? You have a license and a car, want to carpool with your friends? Nope, thats illegal. The four of you have to take 2 cars, two people to a car if you are under 18.. and the majority of school kids are.

Can't ride the bus, can't ride with a friend.

[Wasabee]

Not to gloss over a real issue...but we are in a free market economy. As Demand Increses, supply dwindles, production can't meet the demands, prices increase, the system will work itself out. (It's not nice and sometimes seem "unfair" but so are plane crashes...)

The problem really lies in ones ability to adapt to change and make the sacrifice one needs to adjust. I'm not enjoying having to spend so much in gas...so we limit the use of the car/sell the gas guzzler/ and get a more fuel efficient car. This by no means is easy.

I know that some commute long distances and have limited "carpool" options. The options before you are; move closer and do "without" some "things" or find work closer to home.

We moved to AZ from CA when we found out we were pregnant. Why? Because we wanted to raise or kid with in the means we were accustomed. I couldn't get a job to afford a house, kid, wife, car, money in the bank, and retirement. I had to change myself to adjust to the decisions I made.(Like having a kid).

I guess what I am saying is there is a problem, we need to make adjustments now, plan for the future, and own the piece of the problem. Our culture (American) has this sense that the world owes us, we have to "get ours" while we can, if we can''t have it "our way", it must be somebody elses fault, and since "those in charge" run everything we are limited to whinning.

Further calrification: Life is what it is, own your piece of it, work to envoke change in a positive fashion for the greater good of man.

Wow version: It's like being in a guild, help to build it, play your part, and wait for your reward. Don't be a Ninja Looter, Don't justify taking stuff that is outside your need, and be willing to "give-up" somethings to some that may say they need it more. (Even if you have the DKP for it.)

[rgirty]

I know that some commute long distances and have limited "carpool" options. The options before you are; move closer and do "without" some "things" or find work closer to home.

Both of my vehicles are very efficient. Limited means 0 carpool options in my case. I own my home, selling it in the location it is in would not generate 1/4th of the amount of money needed to buy a home 1/2 the size in a crime riddled area near my work place.

Yes, we do without some things which is one reason my wife and I started playing WoW. The $30 it costs a month is a much much greater entertainment value than anything else we could ever hope to find.

There are 0 jobs near my home.

I could change careers, suffer a signifigant cut in pay, sell my home and move to another area and start all over.

I'll just have to keep buying gasoline, even at $5 or 10$ a gallon is still my cheapest option.

[runeful]

okay as a economics stundent i can not complain too much as i can see way it is but wasabee "free market lol" umm the amount of government intervention on petrol. but coming from australia where our dear prime miniture just singed a deal to supply china with gas for the next 100 years for 3 cent yes 3 cents a litre that really piss' me of i wopuld rather more ir reforms then involving our selves with trade agreements we we stand to loss be it with china for gas, or uranuim to india or even to the us for god knows what.

[Stigg]

okay as a economics stundent i can not complain too much as i can see way it is but wasabee "free market lol" umm the amount of government intervention on petrol. but coming from australia where our dear prime miniture just singed a deal to supply china with gas for the next 100 years for 3 cent yes 3 cents a litre that really piss' me of i wopuld rather more ir reforms then involving our selves with trade agreements we we stand to loss be it with china for gas, or uranuim to india or even to the us for god knows what.

What? Nice grammar.

Oil just dropped 44 cents in Southern Maryland. From $3.04 to $2.60 per gallon.