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Brighde
22-06-2006, 04:51 PM
After all the build up by Blizzard of the new scourge invasion, after reading about all of the quests, I really looked forward to the latest release - only to find out that Blizzard set it up to lock most of the players in the game out of the world event. The mobs are either level 6-9 or level 55 elite and up. As a level 49 character I can't even get any of the quests. The whole concept of locking all of the mid-level players out of participation has me just disgusted with the game. If not for the great guild I am in I would have already removed the game.

At least with the whole AQ world event it was possible to gain rep. with other factions. With this event? Nothing. If you are a mid-level character there is no way to participate. Mid-level characters can't even get the quests.

So what, then is the point? To irritate the larger part of the customer base?

If so, I will bet it worked.

Arkane Dark
22-06-2006, 04:59 PM
I actually agree with you there, it's very annoying being 47 currently.

Tarnop
22-06-2006, 05:33 PM
Q: How long will it last?

A: Unknown for now. The rumors range from a month to until Kel'thuzad is killed to until you defeat ALL of the Necropolises. It will last much, much longer then the 16 hour war with the Ahn'qiraj though.
You're level 49. I'm sure you can make 6 levels before the event is over.

zkajan
22-06-2006, 05:38 PM
90% of the population is lvl 60. it doesn't make sense to put out content for lvls people spend less than a day in, as there is plenty of content for those lvls already. Also guess what? At lvl 49 you can actualy participate. The skeletons at Felstone Field can be foguth at that level and they drop bone chunks you can turn into the argent dawn for insignias which you can turn in for gear.

One Swordsman
22-06-2006, 06:01 PM
90% of the population is lvl 60. it doesn't make sense to put out content for lvls people spend less than a day in, as there is plenty of content for those lvls already. Also guess what? At lvl 49 you can actualy participate. The skeletons at Felstone Field can be foguth at that level and they drop bone chunks you can turn into the argent dawn for insignias which you can turn in for gear.


Where can I turn these in? I have been wondering what they were for...

mesonm
22-06-2006, 06:08 PM
90% of the population is lvl 60

Perhaps 90% of YOUR population is 60.....

I'd bet that on my new server (Jaedenar), the majority is 20-45.

zkajan
22-06-2006, 06:24 PM
Perhaps 90% of YOUR population is 60.....

I'd bet that on my new server (Jaedenar), the majority is 20-45.
overall, across all servers

zkajan
22-06-2006, 06:25 PM
Where can I turn these in? I have been wondering what they were for...
light's hope chapel in eastern plaguelands, if you stay on the road you can ride all the way there with no agro, you're only going to have to get off the road at one point, at Corrin's Crossing to go around the town (which is filled with undead)

Rancid
22-06-2006, 06:29 PM
Uh.. This is a high level event. Not a low 5-9 and high level event. The low level mobs are just there as there are low level mobs around any city.

[/]Oh yeah, of course Blizzard did this JUST to make mid-levels mad. Because that's how people make money. [/sarcasm]

rgirty
22-06-2006, 06:49 PM
Anyone here downed any of the new bosses yet? If so what loot?

mesonm
22-06-2006, 07:02 PM
overall, across all servers

immaterial...whether 100% of all people on ten servers are all 60 is immaterial to how things will operate on a different server where most are <50.

Hunter Noventa
22-06-2006, 07:18 PM
I'm just as upset about this. My highest character is 44. On the NEW server I jsut started on, there's no one higher than 30, the server is barely a week old. Those places are going to be 'under attack' for a good solid month at the least, before enough 60s are made to do somethign about it.

And if the event ends with the killing of Kel'Thuzad, i would guess three months at least before scourge stop spawning in UC and killing people in one hit.

This, coupled with the Global LFG, makes this patch VERY disappointing.

Naedea
22-06-2006, 07:20 PM
Statement retracted

Houdy
22-06-2006, 07:26 PM
dunno, i always assumed that because this game has been out for so long that Blizzard assumes you bought the game at least 4 months ago and have at least one level 60. -shrug- hell, even playing my 5th alt every once in a while has him at 58 in less than 3 months.

when it comes to new servers.. yeah, totally dropped the ball on that one.. unless you get a group of 40's to take on the 50's (which are NOT elites until you get the spawns).

but they can't spawn different leveled mobs per server based on the overall servers level.. can they? that would be too much work..what do i know.

edandor
22-06-2006, 07:42 PM
90% of the population is lvl 60.

no, according to the warcraft census, there are 4.3 million chars between lv 10 and 60, and 1.4 million of those are lv 60. so maybe roughly a third are 60, and thats over all servers. some servers have tons were some new servers have hardly any.

rgirty
22-06-2006, 08:02 PM
I'm almost to my 3rd month of playing the game and am at level 45. I still haven't seen most of the content I can for my level. I chose not to rush to 60 as many people advised to "take my time" and "see the game" now, here we go a boatload of cool content I really can't take part in and most likely will be over by the time i'm 60 /cheer!

Gylmalt
22-06-2006, 08:56 PM
It's ok. Don't freak out about it. Just play the game. I didn't get to see the Ahn'Qiraj gates open cause I was out of town when it happened. I didn't get to kill Onyxia with my guild the first time cause I didn't have the right gear. You're going to miss some stuff. It's not fun or exciting to miss it, but you're going to miss it. So stop telling us about it, go level to 60 and try to get involved, if you can't do that, then sorry. It sucks, but that's the way it is. I'm not trying to be mean or rude, but I am trying to be realistic. Someone told you to slow down and "enjoy the game" good, well now's your time to kick it in gear if you really want to see the event. Also, those new servers, I jumped on one of those the third day after it'd been opened and there were already 20 level 40s. By the end of the week 5 of those were 60s and it was all down hill from there. It seems the hard core of the hard core gravitate to those new realms to be the number ones over there. So it can be done. Go grind, go quest, whatever your choice, just go do it.

Sorry if it sounded rude, again, not meant to be,
Gyl.

Brighde
22-06-2006, 08:59 PM
I'm almost to my 3rd month of playing the game and am at level 45. I still haven't seen most of the content I can for my level. I chose not to rush to 60 as many people advised to "take my time" and "see the game" now, here we go a boatload of cool content I really can't take part in and most likely will be over by the time i'm 60 /cheer!

That is the point I am making. Even when my character reaches level 60 there should still be content for the mid-level players in world events. Even if my main gets to level 60 somebody else still has mid-level characters. As one poster showed from above, those somebodies do indeed make up most of the population of Wow.

No one should have to "kick it into gear" and rush to 60 just to participate in an event of this nature. If it were not a "world event" that would be much different. I don't expect to be able to gain rep with cenarion circle much until level 60. However, there are those of us who do not want to rush to 60. That doesn't mean we shouldn't be considered. Especially since we constitute the bulk of the money that blizzard is getting paid.

If it is a "World" event there should be content for everyone. I made a post about this on the Wow "Official" forums. It rapidly "disappeared".

rgirty
22-06-2006, 09:03 PM
well now's your time to kick it in gear if you really want to see the event.

I'm fairly casual, not much I can do about it really. I'll just take your advice and realize that a lot of cool things are going to come along that I am going to miss.

poguer
22-06-2006, 09:12 PM
It's not a big deal. Yeah, we miss out, but there will be other world events and if you're into it, you can role play through it. I get about an hour every-other day to play and 2-4 hours on the weekends. Needless to say, by the time I found out how to play, what to play, and where to play, I have made it to 38th level with my main. I enjoy playing and alternate between pity and envy for those who can play 4 or more hours a day. I will say this though, Blizz should do something for the midlevels, as people like myself give them the best return on investment.

Just my 2 cents....or $14.99 a month.

Grendo
22-06-2006, 09:39 PM
There will be plenty of events for years to come. Just because you cant participate this time, doesnt mean youre neglected. A buddy of mine is on vacation overseas for the next month - should they hold off the event till he gets home? Of course not.

Theres no reward from participating in the event that is 'required' or even that great. You really arent missing much. Some rep, and some toys. You can always get both later.

Although I do think the fire stealing quest should have been available to anyone able to complete it. Shrug.

And the only toon I currently play is my 44 dwarf, shelving my old mains. So I do understand the plight.

Brighde
22-06-2006, 09:58 PM
The thing is, there is no reason to lock out the mid-levels. Simply make the quests available to everyone. I may not be able to take out ?? by myself. But if I have a guildmate behind me who is a priest I will bet together we can make the ?? push up daisies.

Oatmealsmurf
22-06-2006, 10:03 PM
I thought that was a bit odd too... when the gates of AQ opened I was able to take out the elites by myself even though I was maybe mid 40s? As long as I only got one at a time. They could have put more in for people that are still leveling.

rgirty
22-06-2006, 10:06 PM
It would have been nice, but it kind of puts me in my place. Think i might lay off a few days and build up some rest xp. It is fairly aggrevating watching all the others have a good time and not getting in on it.

Oatmealsmurf
22-06-2006, 10:20 PM
It's actually not all that fun.... It's just a good way to grind for rep with AD... especially if you have a mage gather up mobs and then you all mow em down with AOE. So far the best thing I've gotten out of it is a Corrupter's Scourge Stone. It gets old (to me) pretty quick.

Arkane Dark
22-06-2006, 10:29 PM
I'm aiming to get from 47-60 in the next 9 weeks (9 weeks may seem long but I have exams this year) and if I do miss the scourge invasion, sure I will be a bit annoyed. But at least I can look forward to the next world event that is very likely to be better than the previous. it's all about a positive attitude people! If you dwell on the fact that you are going to miss something and dont even think about the next thing then of course you are going to feel bad.

Zahyuri
22-06-2006, 10:49 PM
I think what a lot of people are trying to say is not "stop everything for me". More a, "If this is a World Event shouldn't the whole world be in on it?"

That is the one thing that really doesn't make any sense to me, a World Event and only 1/3 of the world can 'participate'. Everyone from the lowly levels, to the mid-levels to the mastered high levels should be able to have a hand in takeing down the Scourage and restoring peace to our lands.
In a roleplaying aspect the Scourge are a threat to everyone and their place/home in World of Warcraft so everyone should be able to do something and get a little credit for it.

Meh, it doesn't really bother me that I don't get to participate, just stumps the heck out of me when they keep calling it a World Event. I'll get to 60 on my own time and hopefully Kel'Thuzad will still be waiting for me to stab him in the back. Lol

I really think they should have made it an all around thing instead of something only the higher levels can participate in. The whole world uniteing to take down evil and not just the people who have a lot of hours a day to put into this game.

SkipsH
22-06-2006, 11:47 PM
Oh no, the scourge are attacking and we might all die. Well, I cant do anything about it and no one would even notice if I died trying and those big boys dont want my help and Im only getting in their way, so Im gonna go kill scorpids and collect Bear asses and let someone else deal with it. Siyonara suckers.

mesonm
22-06-2006, 11:52 PM
Oh no, the scourge are attacking and we might all die. Well, I cant do anything about it and no one would even notice if I died trying and those big boys dont want my help and Im only getting in their way, so Im gonna go kill scorpids and collect Bear asses and let someone else deal with it. Siyonara suckers.

Well, they won't attack you unless you first attack them (in a city, anyway)...so, have fun, and watch the battle!

I'd like to see Sylvanas under attack (a real attack, not just one like recently when six guys didn't get past the first 60+ guard....) where folks in UC would have to help, or Sylvanas would likely die.

One Swordsman
23-06-2006, 01:14 AM
Well, they won't attack you unless you first attack them (in a city, anyway)...so, have fun, and watch the battle!

I'd like to see Sylvanas under attack (a real attack, not just one like recently when six guys didn't get past the first 60+ guard....) where folks in UC would have to help, or Sylvanas would likely die.
Reply With Quote

Undercity attack video (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2156731709954982641&q=undercity)

Its not Sylvanas, but they get Varimathras down =P

Xafour
23-06-2006, 06:54 AM
Guys about the one who said theres 4,3 million 10-59 characters. It says characters not accounts. Most people have 1 or 2 lvl 60's but a whole lot of 10-59 alts.

Dylaen
23-06-2006, 08:02 AM
as an earlier poster said, it's really not that great. farming these guys for your 'awesome' reward items is not only extremely difficult with 20 different ppl faming the same camp, but not very rewarding, either. the rewards are really only good against these guys specifically, and they'll be gone soon enough. and the quests are extrememly dry, not much to them except "farm, farm, and farm some more, and we'll give you mediocre items for the ridiculus amounts of time you spent doing it".

another thing to note, it's a world event, not a community event. world means it takes place all over the two continents, but not necessarily in areas suited to your lvl. just because a huge anubis popped up in the barrens for AQ didn't mean a raiding party of lvl 15-18's was supposed to go out and kill him. the fire festival thats going on right now is a community event, with quests and accessability for all lvls. besides, all this hubbub is geared toward Naxxramas and getting your Argent Dawn rep up so that you don't have to empty your purse and beg for arcane and nexus crystals just to get in. you're not going to start dealing with AD til around the early 50s anyway, and you're definitely not going to Naxx until 60, which is plenty of time to get your rep up. running Scholo and UD Strat will get your rep up much faster anyway, and get you much better gear in the process. just remember, take it in stride, many of the people participating in this now (including myself) got left out of AQ stuff, you got left out of Naxxramas stuff, and when you're 60, others will be left out of upcoming content while you get to reap the rewards. not entirely fair, but thats life.

Loriel
23-06-2006, 08:51 AM
Well, the rewards offers a fairly decent boost when fighting undead - and surely the invasion forces aren't the only undead mobs in Azeroth. Combined with a trinket like Seal of the Dawn/Rune of the Dawn, this 3-piece outfit could come in very handy when doing things like a 45 minute Strat run, or even just regular Strat/Scholo, questing in WP/EP etc.

I like the invasion event a lot, actually, both in terms of the temporary invasion and the new permanent AD quests. Both will help with gaining AD rep, which now also has some new rewards. Sure it's a bit grindy, but so is WoW endgame in general.

calet
23-06-2006, 10:33 AM
The only thing I think is stupid about this invasion event is the lvl 10 scourge in the newbie areas, that just looks stupid. I mean, who sends babies to war (except african warlords)? If we look at this from a RP point of view it wouldn't make sense for the scourge to send anything less than 55+ in an invasion.

Personally I think participating in this event is nothing more than a big grinding session. I will only do it until I get all the Undead Slaying pieces for my pally, and this set I will only use in UD Strat and Scholo.

Babobery
23-06-2006, 11:10 AM
Sorry to ask but any chance that somebody could link the armour rewards for this? I did a hand in quest in SW and managed to grab a blessed wizard oil for nuking undead but did not realise that you could get armour too....

Mincemaker
23-06-2006, 11:26 AM
Sorry to ask but any chance that somebody could link the armour rewards for this? I did a hand in quest in SW and managed to grab a blessed wizard oil for nuking undead but did not realise that you could get armour too....

Official site. www.worldofwarcraft.com

Babobery
23-06-2006, 11:37 AM
While I do appreciate the fast response I was hoping to differentiate between the armour provided from the collect tokens and hand in different amounts depending on faction and from what I have read, a quest where you kill mobs, summon an elite, kill the elite and loot something from a chest....

Ie what 3 piece outfit? I am imagining something that gives bonuses against undead but not sure if I am on the right path here

Mincemaker
23-06-2006, 11:41 AM
While I do appreciate the fast response I was hoping to differentiate between the armour provided from the collect tokens and hand in different amounts depending on faction and from what I have read, a quest where you kill mobs, summon an elite, kill the elite and loot something from a chest....

Ie what 3 piece outfit? I am imagining something that gives bonuses against undead but not sure if I am on the right path here

3 piece armor set which gives you bonus against undead. I hope this is clear.

Search the official website and click on the 'Scourge Invasion' link and it shows you what you can get from turning in runes.

moopy
23-06-2006, 12:11 PM
What irked me more is that the main invasion on my server started on wednesday, no-one could log onto realms until 16:00 or so, and by the time that I got home from work and got past the login servers, was over. An event which is only for people without jobs seems like a pretty poor show :)

QuaTrO
23-06-2006, 12:21 PM
Do the other pieces of the set drop off of regular mobs, or just the invasion mobs. Because if they only just drop from invasion mobs then i thinks its kind of dumb that people who miss the invasion can only get one piece of the set.

Dobablo
23-06-2006, 12:43 PM
Wrist drops from rare invasion mobs and the chest from the elite shadows.

I am sure the event isn't over on your server. There are about 15 attacks each day. There are probably a fixed number before they go away. They will be back tomorrow.

Loriel
23-06-2006, 12:53 PM
I haven't seen any official information on how long the event will last, although I believe it is supposed to last a lot longer than the AQ event (which was, what, 8 hours?). The official line from Blizzard is the event will continue until the server has "finished" it, whatever that means. It could be a fixed number of attacks, or until someone kills Kel'Thuzad (which could be a long time indeed).

I would like to know if there is some way to get the rewards even after the event is complete. The 3 piece set is obviously permanent, but I'm thinking about the consumables - i.e. the potions. A potion that provides +60 spell damage to Undead mobs could be useful even in Naxx, or at least on something like a 45 minute Baron run. So maybe people will stock up on them and only use them for these encounters - not having any means to get new potions makes them kindof valuable, I would think.

Brighde
23-06-2006, 04:38 PM
light's hope chapel in eastern plaguelands, if you stay on the road you can ride all the way there with no agro, you're only going to have to get off the road at one point, at Corrin's Crossing to go around the town (which is filled with undead)


Saddly, when I went to lights hope chapel there was no argent dawn NPC's that would even deal with me at level 49. Perhaps this will change when I make level 50 tonight.

Dobablo
23-06-2006, 05:12 PM
I think the quest to report to Light's Hope Chapel, and the 3 event quests (AD Gloves, Under the Shadow and Shadows of Doom) all require L51.

At least you have the flight path now :)

Grendo
23-06-2006, 08:44 PM
While helping kill several groups of mobs in Tanaris, I managed upon two dropped quest notes from the invaders. Both were 45req quests, to report to EPL.

Whether they quest level means theyll actually speak to me is a whole new question. Ill find out tonight as it was late, and that treck won't be a fun one at 45.

Dylaen
23-06-2006, 09:20 PM
no, you get them as rewards for turning in scourge stone-like items that drop off the mobs to an npc AD vendor. the higher your rep, the less stones you need to turn in to get the desired reward.