Tailoring, what can i expect?

[rgirty]

Since I recently achieved 300 enchanting I have began grinding rep with the timbermaw to obtain the 1h and 2h agi enchants. I noticed on the list the two timbermaw tailoring recipes that you also gain at certain rep.

I have 300 skinning, but it has become very tiresome and I really don't need the money it brings in anymore. If I drop it and powerlevel tailoring up to 300, what can I expect from tailoring at that point? It appears that mooncloth and mooncloth bags make money even if it is on a 96 hour cooldown.

I don't expect any ROI from powerleveling it to 300 but I would like to know if any tailors have been at 300 for a while and what I can expect? I have noticed the dreamweave circlet selling well since the last patch, is there any money in tailoring once you get to 300? Or is it another money sink like enchanting?

[Magikhat]

As far as mooncloth bags, i cant say. It really depends on your server. If there are a lot of mooncloth for cheap and not a lot of people making bags then, sure you might make a buck.

If you have a lot of up and coming 60's wanting to get into Molten Core guilds that require their members to have a certain fire resist requirement then you might make money getting the wizardweave patterns or you might not.

If a lot of people run DM tribute then you might simply make a few bucks selling bolts on the AH.

It really depends on your server though.

Honestly there arent too many patterns that make items that are better than what can be found in instances unless you can grind ZG rep for bloodvine patterns or Thorium rep for the flarecore patterns and even so the materials are expensive.

Now I suppose if you want to start selling runecloth bags that might be ok but you may have 100 other tailors doing the same thing and you will find yourself buying rugged leather and saying (wasnt I a skinner once?)


Now you might want to keep an eye on how much cloth is going for on your server. If its being sold cheap then you might make money. If its not then you might not make any money.

I think all tradekskills have their ups and have their downs, you just have to find the ups and avoid the downs

[Oatmealsmurf]

My personal opinion is tailoring is only useful if you're a mage, warlock or priest and intend to craft your epic robe for yourself. I just rolled a mage and while running LBRS with my lock the pattern for Robe of the Archmage dropped so I sent it to my little lvl 10 mage and took up tailoring. I plan on leveling to 300 while farming the mats for the robe with my lock and then making it and dropping tailoring to pick up a more useful (and fun) trade like engineering.

[rgirty]

Pretty much what I thought. 0 money in tailoring. However I can make useful items for my guild and myself as far as resist gear goes. I'm a priest so I might make the truefaith later on. Basically i'm just going to do it to help others, they supply the leather and runecloth i can make bags... i'll make a mooncloth bag every few days and eventually distribute them to everyone. Sounds fun to me, basically the same reason I took up enchanting. So i could do enchants for myself and my friends. Runecloth bags are around 3.5g and mooncloth around 21g so there might be a LITTLE money there...also I hear there are items you can craft and disenchant then the mats are worth more than what it costs you to craft it. I have sworn secrecy if I find out what it is LOL.

[Magikhat]

My personal opinion is tailoring is only useful if you're a mage, warlock or priest and intend to craft your epic robe for yourself. I just rolled a mage and while running LBRS with my lock the pattern for Robe of the Archmage dropped so I sent it to my little lvl 10 mage and took up tailoring. I plan on leveling to 300 while farming the mats for the robe with my lock and then making it and dropping tailoring to pick up a more useful (and fun) trade like engineering.


i did this for ROTV and wound up replacing it 2 days later, boy was I mad.

[Oatmealsmurf]

LOL... yeah but my mage is going to be played with a group of 3 real life friends who are just picking up the game right now. So when they hit 60 I expect them to be clad still in a lot of green and I'll be walking them through LBRS, Scholo and Strat. It'll be quite a while before I'm doing anything with the mage that would result in a better robe dropping. Plus since I'll only really be playing the mage with my friends I'm sure I'll have the mats to powerlevel and craft my robe by level 35 easily. I'm 95% sure I'll end up getting a ton of utility out of it. And since I didn't buy the pattern and got it on a lucky drop I'm not gonna feel miffed at all if I did find something better. Sure I could have gotten 300g with it... but what's that gonna do for me other than sit in the bank account.

[rgirty]

robe of the archmage pattern = 50g on my server.

[Oatmealsmurf]

yeah our economy sucks though... LOL... and honestly makes no sense whatsoever at times.

A stack of wool sells for basically the same price as a stack of thorium right now... and the BoE pieces for tier 0 all sell for around 25g per piece, except shadowcrap which you might as well DE because it just doesn't sell (which I can understand) and Beaststalker gloves... (not the gauntlets or belt, just the gloves) sells for over 100g.

My economy is really unstable and any rare patterns, formulas or plans have a huge premium placed on em.

[rgirty]

beaststalker gloves = 300g

other boe tier 0 pieces are fairly cheap, devout gloves can be had for less than 100.

I bought some, arcanite dragonling? schematic for engineering last night on the AH for 5g, it normally goes for around 200 the last time i checked the bidding on it was up over 100...it is a rare drop in winterspring i think.

[Oatmealsmurf]

but why are the gloves so high for Beaststalker but not the belt or gauntlets? LOL... That's what kills me. I actually like our set up more than what you're describing currently... I got all my BoE pieces of Teir 0 for a combined 80g.

I'd rather pay 80g for something I know I will replace and 300g for an epic tailoring, Alchemy or enchanting recipie that I'll always have access too. True raiding players will replace Robe of the Archmage sooner or later... but for players who can't or won't raid... that's the best robe they will ever get their hands on.

[rgirty]

The gloves of all the tier 0 are the most expensive pieces, they are also the hardest to find on our server.

You can search the AH for devout and find belts or bracers anytime but you don't see the gloves that often and when you do they are in the 100g range give or take 20g

[Oatmealsmurf]

That's funny to me because I've run LBRS 8 times and the gloves have dropped every single time... either off a random trash mob or Voone. I guess it's just an abberation.

[rgirty]

I guess, no matter really to me, when i get ready for the gloves i'll buy em.
But not having the time to devote to a raiding guild makes me wonder how limited my gear can/will be.

[bhroam]

The problem with mooncloth bag is the bloody 4 day cooldown... you'll have better luck with other types of bags. Depending how greater eternal essessnces sell, the 20slot enchating bags... or if your friendly with cenarain circle, the 20s herb bags.... 20s soul pouches are easy to make so they probably don't sell well.

I made a good amount of money for my epic mount selling the 20s herb bags for between 18-28g a pop. It does take morrowgrain which is a pain to make (get lots of unguro soil and cast transmute dirt to crap).

The epic patterns are nice... but they're bind on tailor... so you'll only ever make them once. On my server they sell for 200g on the AH.. I calculated that all the mats for the sucker plus the recipe cost something like 600g

[rgirty]

Well, I skilled up tailoring to around the 250ish mark. After I hit a certain skill point I began breaking even and skilling up for free. After the next threshold I actually begain making money. Once I get up to about 300 I think I can sit back and rake in the profits. I'll just say there are a lot of items that DE for profit.

[bhroam]

I found that unless you want to go farming for tailoring mats (Ironwood spider silk or wildvine etc), you're stuck DEing what you can already make. The higher level tailoring patterns require mats which require farming...

I hadn't thought about the thought of buying those mats off the AH, but I doubt it'd really make it worthwhile. You o don't start getting really good DE bait until the 300 pattern which require even more =]. I think the easist thing to make is the 205 mageweave leggings/vest. They reliably DE into dream dust or some times into lesser eternal essences. They only require 2 bolts of mageweave.

What I do is wheneversome 50+ green item drops which is crap for me, I DE it and sell the mats. It gives much better stuff than anything which can be easily