I have some questions...

[Lirael Woodheart]

I am a lvl 30 gnome rogue and I only have 19gold:cry: .

-My first question is how do i get more money? If by grinding where?how?what?

-Other question, I done all quests in Dsukwood and Wetlands. But all the quests I have now (in stranglethorn and arthari highlands) are lvl 36+! Where do I find quests corresponding to my level or how do I level quick?

[Baboon]

Hey,

Herbalism/Skinning/Mining helps a lot. Also instances tend to make you rich.
Selling First Aid books is a nice one, most people don't know where to buy them. Your 19 gold is ok, you tend to get more when higher level. If you have 60 at level 38 you will be fine probably. At level 39 go kill those monkeys close to BB and sell the grey stuff for a lot of money. If you skin too, it's even better.

STV does have level 31 quests, they are at that Nesingwary location. The other spots where you can go are Desolace and Arathi. And that white saltdesert in Thousand Needles. Maybe something in Alterac.


edit: argh I helped a gnome rogue ;)

[Hayek]

1) dont worry. Money comes easily in the 35-40 area. On all my toons I've gotten at least 1 blue BoE drop that sold handsomely; quests pay well. If still strapped for cash, make some work of your gathering profession(s) (note: tailor/enchanter is the worst combo moneywise you can have, so if you've chosen that, dump tailoring now. you can always change back at 60)

2) STV does have quite a few quests for level 30-34; look at the rebel camp and Nessingwary's expedition. Also pay a visit to the shimmering flats, the gnomes and goblins there have enough to get you an entire level if you're rested - and you'll have to pick up the flightpaths of thalanaar and Gadgetzan sooner or later anyway. Hillsbard / Alterac has a few quests as well. If all else fails you can go to desolace, but that's a rather depressing place imo.

PS: don't forget the instances. At level 30 you definately want to go to razorfen downs, and Gnomeregan offers good cash,loot and xp too. Just make sure you take people who know their class a bit, cause it can be a ratehr unforgiving place.

[Karkas]

There are some quests in Stranglethorn vale that you can easily do as a level 30, just talk to the people in the camp in the north. Other options are Arathi Highlands and Hillsbrad Foothills. You can make an account (it's free at WWN data and look at the Questmaps to see which area is suited for you).

http://wwndata.worldofwar.net/questMaps.php

About the money: do not fear 19 gold is a very normal amount for a level 30 character. You can make money by using your gathering professions (herbalism, skinning, mining) and sell the materials on the Auction House.

If you want a horse at 40 it is also advisable to get honored with your faction (gnomes in this case) if you are not already and to get to sergeant by playing in the battlegrounds (start off with Warsong Gulch, it is the simplest). Both honored with the gnomes and being sergeant will net you a 10% discount on your horse and horse training (80g instead of 100g).

You will also notice that better monster drops and better quest rewards will give you more money.

About leveling the fastest: if this is you first character it is most fun to do a lot of quests (which will give you decent experience points) but the best leveling speed is gained by just killing mobs as fast as possible (called "grinding"). Mostly you just stay in an area where you can get a high kill speed and decent experience without too much danger and you stay there for hours and hours until you the experience gained is too low and you find a new area with higher level mobs. As simple as boring..

Good luck!

[Lirael Woodheart]

Thank you so much!

Though there's a problem. I followed some guy's trick on the forum, it sais that you need to buy cheeper cloth and then sell it a bit higher. So I bought a lot of Runecloth for 1g and put it back for 2.50gold. My cloth has now the lowest buyoutprise in AH. I hope it sels good :( I only have 1coin left :cry: :cry: :cry:

[goat song]

kcma's auction house trickery has a lot of experience behind it in his case....I would spend some more time watching and learning the AH before risking huge amounts of cash :D

however, if you did buy cloth at 1g per stack and are now selling them for 2.5g per, AND those are the lowest buyouts in the AH, you've certainly got the idea and are likely to make a profit. that's about what I'm doing as well with cloth and other trade goods, but I just can't seem to swing it as kcma does for 100s of g at a time.

the surest way to earn cash is gathering professions. If you don't currently have two leveled to as high as you can possibly get them, that explains why you're so poor for your level. Gathering isn't as fast as playing the AH, but it's much safer.

[bhroam]

If you're gonna hike out to 1000 needles for questing, you might go for mining. It's _VERY_ mineral rich. When I was doing the quests in the shimmering flats, I'd fly to thalanar, rather than gadgetzan. Even though gad was closer to the flats, I'd pick up several stacks of copper and tin and some iron on the way down to the flats.

Oh and there's many 1000n (shimmering flats) to booty World of Walking quests. I painfully did them through clever harthing through SW... *****ing loudly about the lack of a FP in ratchet and how the horde can just fly to the Barrens and take a boat. Now's there is a FP in ratchet and you're just the right level... take advantage of it.

I funded both mine and my wives mounts via mining... 1g per stack of copper about the same for bronze... 5-7g for iron. The prices on my server have seriously dropped since then though.

Herbilism is good too, but it won't be until the higher level herbs that you'll make any money... the initial silverleaf and peacebloom don't sell at all. It shouldn't matter though, you'll power level herbilism in no time.

[Lirael Woodheart]

I think it will fail, I c the same product but for 95silver buyout... I'm entirely broke. If only I had my 19 gold back...

[Thedeadboy]

People always put some prices very low.

If you get it back after 8 hours ( or 24 ) just put it again on the AH.
Eventually somewhon shall come and buys all.

I don't suggest merchanting on your level, you should be lvling.
Btw give us some more info, is your server low moderate or full? That can have some effects on the economy.
What are your proffesions? Skinning is pure gold and mining makes gold too.

[Lirael Woodheart]

I'm in the european pvp Bladefist, it's fairly full and people are complaining about lag bc of that...
I am an engineer/mining. Do you suggest me to sell my melted mining stuff on AH???

[Karkas]

The lag is probably not because the server is full but just because the Europe servers are a total mess right now.

If you really feel you need more money I suggest you drop engineering and take skinning or herbalism and sell both the smelted bars (not the ore) and the herbs/leather on the AH. After a few days you will get a feeling for acceptable prices which vary widely per server.

Download the auctioneer add-on at ui.worldofwar.net and read the using auctioneer guide at the mod/ui forum here. Be sure to scan for at least a week before trusting any of the prices and avoid buying products when you don't know what they are used for 'cause sometimes demand can vary widely and you may end up with items you can never move.

[Hayek]

Metal bars tend to sell reasonably well to engineers and blacksmiths who cant be bothered to do all the mining themselves. And after a certain level hunters need metal for their bullets, and lots of it. So there's a market for it.

Engineering itself isnt much of a cashcow. The EZ throw dynamite tend to make money, but thats about it. If you dont have any rare recipies yet you could consider dumping it and taking skinning instead; it takes almost no extra time, levels very fast, and makes a reasonable coin too. And with a mount you can mine the stuff to get back at your previous level pretty quickly.

[Renata]

The problem with other people's auction guides is that you can't use their numbers for your own server or even for your own faction on your own server, or even from month to month. You have to study your market for a long time to know whether you can play the cloth/metals/herb markets effectively. Even then you can get fooled by temporary spikes in demand and prices.

Wool cloth is a good example. On the Horde side on Whisperwind, for about a month, wool was selling for close to 2g a stack. Then a lot of people flooded the market with wool and the price stayed high for about a week, and then came back down to about 1g a stack or so. If you'd bought a lot of wool at 1.5g a stack hoping to sell it for the old 2g price, you would have been caught out in the downturn. On the Alliance side, wool was never that expensive, but even it too has come down. I played the wool market for quite awhile, buying any wool that was averaging out at 3s or less per wool in the offered stack, and reselling it for 90s a stack. Prices have dropped so wool there is only selling at about 75s a stack.

There are a lot of reasons why markets fluctuate. Sometimes you get a "baron" who tries to buy out all the items and set the prices high -- there was someone doing this with the copper market on the Horde side for a few weeks. Sometimes there is a temporary shortage, usually due to the market being soft for a long time so people aren't farming the item in question, and then suddenly the shortage causes a rebound in prices (this will inevitably come back down as people catch on and start farming and undercutting).

My question, then, is this -- is 2.5g a stack for runecloth a reasonable buyout for your server and faction, or is 1g a stack closer to the norm? Maybe 1g a stack is cheap, but the average buyout on your server is only 1.75g. In this case, a 2.5g buyout is a waste of your deposit and you need to be repricing these. However, on your server, maybe 1g a stack is normal for runecloth, in which case, you will lose some money trying to offload this at the same price you bought it.

There also tend to be fluctuations depending on the time of week you buy it. For some reason, on some servers/factions, prices change on the weekends -- either the prices drop or they go up. On one server I played on, prices always went up on the weekends, but on my main server, prices tend to go down. This fluctuation becomes less pronounced over the summer as there are more people playing over summer vacations.

Yes, you can use the auction house to get money -- but it takes time and study to do it right. You're better off taking up skinning and either herbalism or mining and selling those. I often don't bother taking up a manufacturing trade (engineering, blacksmithing, etc) until well after 40 after I've purchased my mount and built up a good bank account.

...Ren

[Lirael Woodheart]

On th emoment I bought the runecloth I saw prises of 5g, but now i see prises of 1g.

I think I'll drop engineering then and go for skinning, a pitty though, I love exploding cheep and goggles.
Will I be able to keep my goggles on after I unlearned engineering?

And where can I find a place with a lot of animals to skin to get my skill high enough for f.e. stv?

[Hayek]

if you enjoy engineering, keep it. You wont be able to use the gadgets (or the gear like goggles) if you drop it. And you get by walking from level 1 to 40, so you'll survive walking at level 40 and 41 as well. At that stage the money comes in easily enough that you should be abel to afford the mount anyway. Go with what you like, cash can always be found elsewhere.

Should you afterall go skinning, find an early zone (eg dun morogh, NE start zone), and kill beats. You'll have skinning up in no time, then move to another beast-rich zone (eg darkshore). Get moving once the best your skin are green (skinning wise). At level 30 you should make easy money and xp on e.g. the worgen in duskwood (you skin heavy leather with luck, and they drop loot like a humanoid). At level 30 you'll probably soon start questing in stranglethorn Vale, and thats skinners heaven.

[Lirael Woodheart]

Woops, to late to grab back my engineering stuff. I put everything in AH. I liked engineering but it takes a lot of inventory and bank space and especially TIME.

Ok, I'm going for skinning and I'll start in Dun Morogh.

I got an awesome clanleader wich will give me 50 gold out of pitty + enchant my daggers etc. for extra agillity.

I'll keep you informed of my fate, that you all SOO MUCH for the information, I have had some tough times.

[goat song]

I think it will fail, I c the same product but for 95silver buyout... I'm entirely broke. If only I had my 19 gold back...

then you wait until prices go up. they usually fluctuate quite a lot throughout the week. on my server prices are higher on friday and weekends. just hang on to your stuff, grind in the meantime, and put it up when you can make a profit.

[tanquette]

Hey somebody said to get a horse, get honored with the gnomes. Just be warned, you will not get a horse. You will get an icky mechanostrider like my mage has and then you will need runecloth big time! :tongue: