Getting exalted with BG factions

[coffeejunk]

Hi all,

I was wondering: are the reputation points gained with the different factions in WSG and AB equal for all levels?

If so: will it be easier to achieve friendly/honored/revered/exalted with WSG and AB on lvl 19 or lvl 60 (or any level between).

And how are the items you can buy from the different factions (not only BG, but also the other ones) compared to those obtainable via AH or instances that take a max of three hours (About the longest time I'll be able to play in one go).

For your information (in rating the items): I have a lvl 19 hunter, a lvl 14 warlock and a lvl 14 rogue at the moment. One of those three will prolly become main, but knowing myself, I might as well be keeping them rather close in lvls (though not in reputation gain, I will choose a main for that).
Which character class will benefit most from reputation gain items?

Hmm. Became a rather longer post then I expected...
But I just started doing BG, and have been reading a bit on factions and reputation rewards, so a lot of questions popped up.

[Aerath]

Yes, reputation rewards are the same.
Honour isn't.

The items themselves can be fairly nice. Depends a bit, not all of 'em are real useful, but there's a couple great items there. (Though generally only at the higher reputation levels...)

Won't hold up to BWL items, but certainly can get you a long way if you're only started to think about Molten Core.

[bhroam]

I have noticed the items from the BGs are better than the pre-reaid stuff you can get. The rank PvP sets are probably equal too or better than your teir .5 set.

So as a note, different battlegrounds are harder to get rep for than others. WSG you get rep by capturing the flag (35 rep) and by turning in honor tokens (50 rep for 3 tokens). This is by far is the hardest BG to get exaulted with... but the exaulted items are _REALLY_ nice. The epic pants vender rewards from WSG are some of the nicer item's I've seen... of course I haven't bothered to look at what comes out of BWL or Naxx.

AB you get rep based on some magic formula only blizard knows... its based on the amount of resources your side has accumulated... and the honor token turnis (50 for 3 tokens).

AV (when you get to 51+) is the easist... of course if you BG all the way as you level, you'll be quite a ways down the reputation path to WSG and AB.

AV you need to win about 35-40 games to make exaulted.

But since getting exaulted with AV is easier than the other two, the items aren't as good. The epic items from AV dont' make me drool like the WSG items do... of course I'll be getting the AV exaulted items in my lifetime... donno about WSG =]

As a note, PvP is one of the things you can do by yourself... you're not forced to join a raiding guild to do it. If you want to see the inside of MC, BWL, Naxx... you'll need to be in a good raiding guild... and since they're 40 man instances... you won't be seeing much of the gear.... depending on your guilds dkp policy. When you hit exaulted with a bg... you can buy all the phat lewt you want.

[det]

At level 60 and killing other level 60s you get the most honor. I didn't fancy doing Instances when I reached 60 and had my PvP phase then....got exhalted in AB and the Champion set. For a warlock, the Ironbark Staff is very nice...and even when Staff of Dominance dropped I let other casters go for it and rather went for the Felheart.

Served me for a long time and is not too shabby compared to even some epic drops. Especially the +damage is great...just lacks resists...but that is what tier 1 is for. Never bothered with tier 0.5 beyond the bracers.

[amgyn]

pvp rank 1 set is awesome, comparable(even better) to tier 0-0.5 set
pvp rank 2 set is even better, but alot harder to get than tier 1 items from MC.

WSG/AB/AV exalted rewards require alot of work, but are still comparable to tier 1 items.

an no, you dont gain rep faster if you are level 10 or level 60.. but you gain honor faster as a level 60.. most people use their lower level chars in bg's early to get gain that boost in rep as they level up. (i was friendly with wsg before i hit 50, and honored with ab before 60, av is boring for me so im only revered there --- thats how easy it is to rep up)

[coffeejunk]

Hi all,

Thanks for all replies so far!

In response to some of your answers: Rank 1 and 2 PvP gear: this is the stuff you can buy one you hit the highest, or second to highest title, right?

Won't this take an awful amount of time investment too? Looking at it now, I can probably do about 6-10 WSG battles a week. Will this, in the long run, be enough to obtain such a high PvP rank?

[Aerath]

PvP set 1 is completed at rank 10, you will have the 4 piece bonus @ rank 8.
set 2 is completed at rank 13.

And can't say what you'll get with 6-10 WSG battles a week. It'll make a huge difference whether you win or lose 'em and what the rest of your server is doing.

[Baboon]

Hi all,

Thanks for all replies so far!

In response to some of your answers: Rank 1 and 2 PvP gear: this is the stuff you can buy one you hit the highest, or second to highest title, right?

Won't this take an awful amount of time investment too? Looking at it now, I can probably do about 6-10 WSG battles a week. Will this, in the long run, be enough to obtain such a high PvP rank?

Sometimes I can join a very good WSG premade (because I'm a priest and I know my job there) and we can win 6-10 in a few hours. The warlord guys in the premade do that 10 hours a day. For months. So, I guess you won't get any further then blood guard with that.

[TDurden]

Yes, reputation rewards are the same.
Honour isn't.

Actually you have that backwards. The reputation rewards are different for each BG, honor rewards are the same since honor doesn't distinguish where you got it (in a particular battleground or world PvP).

Honor rewards are here: Weapons (http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/pvp/rewards-weapons.html), Mounts (http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/pvp/rewards-mounts.html), and Armor Sets (http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/items/armorsets/) (select "PVP - Rare" or "PVP - Epic" from the Armor Set popup menu to see the honor sets)

Reputation rewards are here: Alterac Valley (http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/basics/factions/alterac/index.html), Arathi Basin (http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/basics/factions/arathi/index.html), and Warsong Gulch (http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/basics/factions/warsong/index.html).

bhroam is right, getting exalted with AV is much easier than AB or WSG. You get rep points for so many things in AV that it accumulates very quickly. Currently it is the only faction in WoW I'm exalted with, after about six weeks of playing AV 10 times a week or so.

I play Alliance, and it helps that on my server Alliance wins at least 70% of the AVs I've been in, whereas Horde nearly always wins AB and WSG due to players with epic gear in guilds (often using Vent or TS) farming faction there. Sadly, Alliance is so much less organized in BG's on my server, they don't even form groups or raids many times in AB or WSG. Thus, the rep grind is much slower with those factions for me.

Luckily, patch 1.12 will fix the raid issue since you automatically join one when you enter it. Supposedly it will also be more forgiving of honor rank, allowing more players to share the same one. Currently, the only way you could get to Grand Marshal (rank 14, the highest) on most servers is to play WoW constantly, foregoing a job, family life, friends and even much sleep according to some accounts.

[MellanCholera]

if you don't have much time, you should be able to get the 1st four pieces of the blue pvp armor pretty easily. The last 2 and the epic mount will take a little longer. Beyond that, you can forget it unless you're willing to spend 6 -10 hours a day or more. But those armor pieces are really nice.

Rep doesn't decay, and AB and AV rep is pretty easy to increase. Esp. AV rep. Go to the official rewards page to see what you can get. Compare it to what you get at instances at www.wow-loot.com

[Udotiln]

Something I thought I noticed the other day was that when I hand in three WSG tokens I get 50 rep, but if I wait until I have 3 AB and 3 AV tokens, then I get 100 rep for WSG and AB, and 150 for AV.

Is this a rep bonus? Or was I mistaken?

[coffeejunk]

At the moment I play Horde on the Ravenholdt server. Which is a RPPVP realm that's isn't that old yet (AQ ain't open yet). Will a lower populated, younger server make it easier to obtain a higher rank? Or won't it matter that much (I read the honor faq on the official site, and there was something there about more players, more points, but divided amongst more players).

[bpaige]

Yes Udo....it is generally best to do the Concerted efforts turn in to maximize yoiur bonus honor from turning in marks....remember tho they stack at 20 and you can't carry anymore of them for each faction....so youmay have to turn in some others while waiting fro AV to pop for you r three there. At least that is the case on my server.

[Aerath]

Actually you have that backwards.

You mistook what I said. What I meant was that you'll get the same reputation reward for -say- WSG at level 19 as you would at level 60.

I didn't mean to imply the various battlegrounds all worked on the same reputation system.

[coffeejunk]

Yes Udo....it is generally best to do the Concerted efforts turn in to maximize yoiur bonus honor from turning in marks....remember tho they stack at 20 and you can't carry anymore of them for each faction....so youmay have to turn in some others while waiting fro AV to pop for you r three there. At least that is the case on my server.

Wait... Do you get a bigger rep bonus (I take it that that's what you mean, rep not honor). When you turn marks from different factions? How does that work?

[Xaero]

The NPC that you turn the tokens into has a option called "For Great Honor" (Horde Side at least) that requires 3 tokens from each BG. Turning in all 3 at once nets double rep and a significant bonus honor boost.

[Durtag]

AB you get rep based on some magic formula only blizard knows... its based on the amount of resources your side has accumulated... and the honor token turnis (50 for 3 tokens).

The magic formula is 10 rep every 200 resources gathered.

[bhroam]

Now that you say the magic formula, it doesn't seem like magic any more =].

If you start collecting tokens waiting for the 3/3/3 turnins (whicn the OP can't do since he's not high enough for AV yet), they are unique to 20... If you gain more than 20 of any token, you'll recieve your token in the mail where it has a 24 hour timer until it goes away. I generally hold tokens until I fill up, turn in a set of three and then go to my mailbox and collect the ones mailed to me. The funny thing is that on my server it's AB which you wait for... not many horde want to play it.... I don't blame them though, the games start with 5 horde and 15 alliance... the alliance go get a 5cap and then go farm for honor by killing the dancing horde... so uncool. If I see it, I go yell at them, but they don't stop.

But concerted efforts is definitely the way to go... not only do you get twice the rep, you also get about 2000 honor for the turnin.

If you're gonna start playing PvP a lot, I'd suggest heading over to the battleground/pvp forums... we talk a lot about strategy and other useful things. There's a (somewhat dead) forum on battleground mods in the battleground forum... a couple really useful ones mentioned there.