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rabidstoat
25-07-2006, 01:20 PM
Just curious, in end-game content, which resistances are used in which raid instances?
MC I'm pretty sure is all about the fire resistance, right? And for some reason I was thinking that AQ was about nature, but I'm not sure. And then Nax is shadow resistance maybe? What about BWL?
Also, what is frost resistance used for? I saw a site that claims that +20/+21 frost resistance should sell for about 3-4 times what it actually goes for on our server. Is there a raid instance or other encounter that relies on frost resistance? Or particular boss fights?
Magikhat
25-07-2006, 01:35 PM
MC=FR
BWL=FR
AQ NR
Naxx Frost shadow I think but havent done it yet
Cerberus
25-07-2006, 01:38 PM
Fire resistance is needed for Ragnaros in MC and can be handy for some other mobs in there as well (tanks will need it). BWL is also fire, you need even more than what you should use for Ragnaros on the second boss.
AQ40 has nature and Naxx has frost, but afaik you won't need frost resistance before the last few bosses. Shadow resistance can also be nice in Naxx I heard
Hayek
25-07-2006, 01:43 PM
w.r.t. resistance gear, the situation is as follows:
- MC: Fire resistance (FR). It helps if everyone has something (90 or so to help at least mitigate some of the fire damage flying around), but the Main tank for Ragnaros should aim for a FR well over 300 to avoid as many knockbacks as possible. Note that a lot of FR gear drops in MC itself, and can be crafted with stuff that drops in MC.
- BWL: Fire resistance again. Now it is a good idea for your healers and casters to have some more FR as well in case they end up in the line of sight of such bosses as firemaw :D. Near the end some shadow resistance helps a bit, but IMHO it's not worth it cause you already need some FR and you can't really afford to gimp your primary stas too much.
- AQ40: nature resistance (NR). At the start it isnt so bad (unless you go for the optional bug family), but once you get to Huhuran you need some serious NR on at least half the raid. A lot of quests and recipes in Silithus give NR gear.
- Naxx: Frost resistance, but bear in mind not all that much info about naxx is widely available, as its a fairly new instance.
The 20 man instances can be done without any resistance gear (though NR helps in some encounters in both ZG and AQ20). The outdoor bosses can be easier with gear as well, but I doubt many people collect it especially for that purpose. And AFAIK the more difficult ones of the 4 dragons require NR again, so most guilds attempting those would be getting that stuff anyway for AQ40.
PS: If frost resistance gear isnt expensive on your server, maybe its because no guild is seriously attempting naxxramas yet, or they all bought it before the patch.
Krollin
25-07-2006, 03:48 PM
MC, BWL needs FR. BWL can also require certain classes to have Shadow Resist gear.
AQ needs NR, especially for Huhuran which demands a minimum of 240 unbuffed NR from at least 15 raid members
Naxx requires Nature, Fire, Shadow and Frost (as currently known).
Aerath
26-07-2006, 11:20 AM
Shadow res can be useful on some bosses in MC (Lucifron comes to mind).
Hayek
26-07-2006, 01:26 PM
Shadow res can be useful on some bosses in MC (Lucifron comes to mind).
Don't want to sound dismissive of anyone's troubles in MC, but you don't need any shadow resistance for that. The debuff of Luci needs to be dispelled before it hits, and the secondary shadowbolt attack some bosses have (eg gehennas) shouldnt be fatal either. In those cases investing in a bit of stamina is a far better option imho.
Magikhat
26-07-2006, 01:36 PM
Don't want to sound dismissive of anyone's troubles in MC, but you don't need any shadow resistance for that. The debuff of Luci needs to be dispelled before it hits, and the secondary shadowbolt attack some bosses have (eg gehennas) shouldnt be fatal either. In those cases investing in a bit of stamina is a far better option imho.
IM assuming hes talking about main tanks getting feared. But you really dont need shadow resistance.
Hayek
26-07-2006, 01:42 PM
IM assuming hes talking about main tanks getting feared. But you really dont need shadow resistance.
Mindcontrolled then. I've never seen Luci fear, only maggie (stance-dance tanking FTW). And the solution to MC is simply to have a spare MT around.
Aerath
26-07-2006, 06:27 PM
Don't want to sound dismissive of anyone's troubles in MC, but you don't need any shadow resistance for that. The debuff of Luci needs to be dispelled before it hits, and the secondary shadowbolt attack some bosses have (eg gehennas) shouldnt be fatal either. In those cases investing in a bit of stamina is a far better option imho.
I know it -should- be dispelled. Fact of the matter is it isn't always, and in that case some Shadow Res can save you a couple thousand damage taken in that fight.
bhroam
26-07-2006, 09:26 PM
The life of a druid is somewhat boring in the gehennas fight... you stand around clicking on your decursive screen clearing curses =]
Greatpogo
26-07-2006, 09:50 PM
In Molten Core Ragnaros is about the only fight you really need a significant amount of FR gear. Some mobs the last 3rd of the instance need some but don't compromise your normal gear too much.
In BWL, mainly the 2nd boss, Vaelastrasz the Corrupted, FR should be as high as you can get it. He has an AOE effect that causes something like 500-700 fire damage every 3 seconds. Iff you can't resist a significant amount of that you will have no chance.
AQ needs nature resistance. 20 man NR is not a huge deal. Get your NR up to a moderate amount and you should be ok.
The best investment you can make for these places is in Greater Nature Protection poptions and Greater Fire Protection potions. They can absorb over 3000 damage of the kind. Have at least a stack just to make sure because they can go quick. Against Vaelastrasz the Corrupted a Fire resist pot can be gone iin the first 10 seconds. They also share a cooldown with healing potions so choose wisely.
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