Raid, sign up?

[ekke]

Is there a wow mod that alows ppl to sign up online so lets sy that i can c who signed up for it and so on?
I understand that i will have to be online 24/7 but still would be handy

[Dynatos]

Guild Event Manager (GEM). Awesome mod. It can be used to schedule raids, and can automate raid invites as well.

[ekke]

ty very much :)

[mesonm]

Group Calendar, ftw

[Royce Nickel Nine]

Group Calendar, ftw
60kb/s idle ftw!

[awktane]

My guild used to use GEM. It pissed me off one too many times and we now use GroupCalendar... Reasons:

Reasons we don't use GEM:

If you have two computers that are both using GEM then it will close all of your events when you sign on to the second computer.
Events and people magically dissapeared for no apparent reason. There was also issues with events duplicating themselves so one event would be created but some people saw two of the same event... and some people only saw the first event and others saw the second. Messy all around.
On numerous occasions when we were running a little late we would go to GEM to start inviting people and the list of people who had signed up was gone. I think it deletes the event once the time has passed.Reasons we do use GroupCalendar

Past events are visible as well as the people who signed up for them. This can be important if you do attendance DKP, etc and forgot or couldn't do it on the day of the event.
The ability to sign someone up for them. Useful when you have signups on a website or someone is using a different computer but wants to participate.
Cleaner interface
More types of events, spaces for information, ways to do signups, etcetcetc.
Overall GroupCalendar is far superior and we are very happy with the switch. I dunno what the guy above me is talking about but the difference in bandwidth between GEM and GroupCalendar is minimal. The choice is up to you as the two are slightly different approaches to a problem Blizzard should really take care of. I'm surprised they haven't add things like event planning, guild banks, ability to share which recipes you have, etc. Yes there are addons that do it but synchronization can always be an issue...

[Royce Nickel Nine]

Overall GroupCalendar is far superior and we are very happy with the switch. I dunno what the guy above me is talking about but the difference in bandwidth between GEM and GroupCalendar is minimal. The choice is up to you as the two are slightly different approaches to a problem Blizzard should really take care of. I'm surprised they haven't add things like event planning, guild banks, ability to share which recipes you have, etc. Yes there are addons that do it but synchronization can always be an issue...
Bandwidth ? Who gives a flying **** about bandwidth(I do but that doesnt matter in this case) ? I meant the increasing rate.

[awktane]

Bandwidth ? Who gives a flying **** about bandwidth(I do but that doesnt matter in this case) ? I meant the increasing rate.

*sigh* Learn then speak. :undecided:

Do you even know what the increasing rate is on addons such as Titan Performance? It has to do with memory allocation. In the addon option screen (where you enable or disable addons) there is a number in the top right hand corner. This is the maximum amount of memory that your addons can take up. When you first login all of your addons go crazy loading their databases, etc and the amount of memory they take up jumps from zero to whatever. The increasing rate is how quickly your addons are loading the information they need. You can't possibly say that it is a constant 60kb/s otherwise your addons would go over the maximum and WoW would force you to end the application. Those of you who have addons such as lootlink have likely seen this happen. The increasing rate says pretty much nothing about the two addons. If anything it says that GroupCalendar more efficiently loads its database because it does it more quickly.

[Royce Nickel Nine]

*sigh* Learn then speak. :undecided:

Do you even know what the increasing rate is on addons such as Titan Performance? It has to do with memory allocation. In the addon option screen (where you enable or disable addons) there is a number in the top right hand corner. This is the maximum amount of memory that your addons can take up. When you first login all of your addons go crazy loading their databases, etc and the amount of memory they take up jumps from zero to whatever. The increasing rate is how quickly your addons are loading the information they need. You can't possibly say that it is a constant 60kb/s otherwise your addons would go over the maximum and WoW would force you to end the application. Those of you who have addons such as lootlink have likely seen this happen. The increasing rate says pretty much nothing about the two addons. If anything it says that GroupCalendar more efficiently loads its database because it does it more quickly.

Wtf you think I am ? Did I ask for that block of text ? You think I dont know how it works ? And wtf is Titan Performance ? I dont use that crap either.

How about you go study some things about garbage collection and memory before you're going to tell me how it works.

[awktane]

Wtf you think I am ? Did I ask for that block of text ? You think I dont know how it works ? And wtf is Titan Performance ? I dont use that crap either.

How about you go study some things about garbage collection and memory before you're going to tell me how it works.

Not only do I know how garbage collection and memory allocation works in WoW addons, I also know how it works on pretty much any system. I lead a team of programmers and have several degrees, a few of which covered the topic in great detail. WoW does not do anything unusual when compared to many other programs. I am not interested in arguing as I know what I am talking about. Let's keep this on topic.

Here are the facts that matter:

Both addons use roughly the same amount of memory during gameplay.
Both addons use roughly the same amount of bandwidth for those of you who are using slower connections and do care.
Neither of the addons will affect performance for the average WoW user.
Both addons have slightly different feature sets and it is up to you which one you prefer.

[awktane]

I just got two PMs asking what all this was about... I'll explain it for those of you who don't know...

WoW addons use the LUA programming language. LUA uses a garbage collector that more or less gets rid of information that is not required from time to time. Inefficient code will leave a whole bunch of work for the garbage collector to do which means that the garbage collection thread will have to take more of the computer's attention in order to clean up the mess. In extreme cases this can cause lag while playing the game. Royal Nickel Nine there was trying to say that he thought that GroupCalendar gave the garbage collector more work to do thereby potentially causing lag. I'm saying I didn't see a noticeable difference between the two.

[Royce Nickel Nine]

Not only do I know how garbage collection and memory allocation works in WoW addons, I also know how it works on pretty much any system. I lead a team of programmers and have several degrees, a few of which covered the topic in great detail. WoW does not do anything unusual when compared to many other programs. I am not interested in arguing as I know what I am talking about. Let's keep this on topic.

Here are the facts that matter:

Both addons use roughly the same amount of memory during gameplay.
Both addons use roughly the same amount of bandwidth for those of you who are using slower connections and do care.
Neither of the addons will affect performance for the average WoW user.
Both addons have slightly different feature sets and it is up to you which one you prefer.
Oh my, Im impressed.

1 - No
2 - Yes
3 - They will
4 - Yes

[Royce Nickel Nine]

Royal Nickel Nine there was trying to say that he thought that GroupCalendar gave the garbage collector more work to do thereby potentially causing lag. I'm saying I didn't see a noticeable difference between the two.
You're saying you're some program leading crap(probably unemployed) when you cant even read, leave alone understand what Im on about ?

First of all, it's Royce Nickel Nine aka Royce Da 5'9"(go look up who he is). I was saying that(I tested this myself) GroupCalendar causes you to have a huge increasing rate(60kb/s +/- in my experience) which causes you to have freezes from time to time. I bet that's totally the same as what you said.

[awktane]

We all had a good laugh about your last post. So even if you really are Royce Montgomery... (chances are low) how does that make you an expert on any topic relating to the issue? If anything it makes me think less of you... All ego and nothing to back it.

It's unusual that you've had this problem but nobody has posted anything about it in the past few months. I checked the addon comments and saw nothing but praise... BUT when looking at the GEM site what do we have? Tons of complaints about bugs and problems (some of which have been fixed to give credit to the author). If you are having a problem with GroupCalendar post about it so the author can do something about it. Perhaps it's a conflict with something else you're running... maybe it has something to do with one of the names in your guild... no matter what it is it can't be fixed unless you provide feedback. In my experience, and the experience of my guild as a whole, there have been no problems whatsoever with GuildCalendar and memory allocation. My increasing rate (and I'm running about 25 addons including GroupCalendar) did not go above 33.447kb/s during 5 hours of gameplay. This included instances and battlegrounds.

Hmmm someone just caught a potential point of misunderstanding so out of the goodness in my heart I'll explain it one more time, just in case Mr. Monty there doesn't understand. He said "you cant even read, leave alone understand what Im on about ?"... well I'll reiterate just in case... (remember that first big block you were complaining about?) The reason having a high increasing rate would cause problems is because of the gabage collection thread. The increasing rate is how quickly your addons are asking for more memory. Once it hits a certain point it cleans up after itself. This cleanup can cause "freezes from time to time". I understand fully what you are "going on" about.

Here's a possibility... if you are on a slow computer or don't have enough RAM then an increasing rate of even 30kb/s can be a huge problem. We have one guy running a pretty sweet rig who has an average of 160kb/s increasing rate (89 different addons) and he hasn't had any performance issues at all so you have to decide for yourself.

My laptop has 1.5gb of ram and my desktop has 4gb so RAM is not really an issue. My lil brother's computer only had 512mb and could load very few addons without having problems because his computer would start using virtual memory (which is when it uses a file on your hard drive as memory - very slow in comparison).

Let the readers decide... I have nothing more to say unless you give me something else to toy with... :tongue: (Apology to Mr. Monty for another "huge block of text"... So much to teach not enough time...)

[Royce Nickel Nine]

We all had a good laugh about your last post. So even if you really are Royce Montgomery... (chances are low) how does that make you an expert on any topic relating to the issue? If anything it makes me think less of you... All ego and nothing to back it.

It's unusual that you've had this problem but nobody has posted anything about it in the past few months. I checked the addon comments and saw nothing but praise... BUT when looking at the GEM site what do we have? Tons of complaints about bugs and problems (some of which have been fixed to give credit to the author). If you are having a problem with GroupCalendar post about it so the author can do something about it. Perhaps it's a conflict with something else you're running... maybe it has something to do with one of the names in your guild... no matter what it is it can't be fixed unless you provide feedback. In my experience, and the experience of my guild as a whole, there have been no problems whatsoever with GuildCalendar and memory allocation. My increasing rate (and I'm running about 25 addons including GroupCalendar) did not go above 33.447kb/s during 5 hours of gameplay. This included instances and battlegrounds.

Hmmm someone just caught a potential point of misunderstanding so out of the goodness in my heart I'll explain it one more time, just in case Mr. Monty there doesn't understand. He said "you cant even read, leave alone understand what Im on about ?"... well I'll reiterate just in case... (remember that first big block you were complaining about?) The reason having a high increasing rate would cause problems is because of the gabage collection thread. The increasing rate is how quickly your addons are asking for more memory. Once it hits a certain point it cleans up after itself. This cleanup can cause "freezes from time to time". I understand fully what you are "going on" about.

Here's a possibility... if you are on a slow computer or don't have enough RAM then an increasing rate of even 30kb/s can be a huge problem. We have one guy running a pretty sweet rig who has an average of 160kb/s increasing rate (89 different addons) and he hasn't had any performance issues at all so you have to decide for yourself.

My laptop has 1.5gb of ram and my desktop has 4gb so RAM is not really an issue. My lil brother's computer only had 512mb and could load very few addons without having problems because his computer would start using virtual memory (which is when it uses a file on your hard drive as memory - very slow in comparison).

Let the readers decide... I have nothing more to say unless you give me something else to toy with... :tongue: (Apology to Mr. Monty for another "huge block of text"... So much to teach not enough time...)

Block 1 - I said it once, I'll say it again, you cant read for **** ...
Block 2 - I didnt say GEM is good, in fact, I dislike it. Why I dont post it in the GC comments ? Because I dont use it, neither do I use GEM. We have a ****tard free guild which can go to the site, sign up, check their dkp, post at forums and to the rest so there is no *****ing involved after.
Block 3 - Read my previous posts.
Block 6 - I like the blocks actually :thumbsup: .

[awktane]

Yet another demonstration of the amazing Monty people skills. :duh:

[Royce Nickel Nine]

Yet another demonstration of the amazing Monty people skills. :duh:
Yet another demonstration of the amazing awktane people skills. :duh:

[awktane]

Reminds me of my five year old son... "I know you are but what am I?" heh

[Royce Nickel Nine]

Reminds me of my five year old son... "I know you are but what am I?" heh
Reminds me of my dog ... wont **** off till you kick it.