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Hollen
10-09-2006, 12:53 PM
Look at this snippet from Wikipedia;

The Eredar are an ancient race of Demons. For some time it was believed they came from the Twisting Nether, but now it is known that they originally came from a world known as Argus and before being corrupted by Sargeras into their demonic form were the same race as the Draenei. They are skilled sorcerers and warlocks. The most powerful of the Eredar were Kil'jaeden and Archimonde chosen by Sargeras the fallen Titan, to be his lieutenants.

Originally, Blizzard lore writer Chris Metzen said that Sargeras defeated the demonic Eredar when he was still a Titan fighting for justice and order, but their evil shocked and depressed him, eventually becoming the core reason of why Sargeras wants to destroy all life. However, this has changed. Metzen now says that Sargeras came across the mortal Eredar when he already became evil, offering them power in return for eternal service to him. Two of their three leaders, Kil'jaeden and Archimonde, accepted the offer on behalf of their entire race. Sargeras then changed the Eredar into powerful and immortal demons. Metzen realized his mistake thanks to Warcraft fans pointing it out. He has apologized profusely on the Blizzard forum for the continuity error, but also said that the new Eredar origin must still be considered canon.

While Kil'jaeden appeared as a demon in Warcraft II, the Eredar came back with a greatly expanded background in Warcraft III. While not entirely playable, one can purchase a few Eredar to fight for them from mercenary camps.

Until Blizzard released the details of the expansion pack, Eredar were widely believed to be the new Alliance race in World of Warcraft: The Burning Crusade. At E3 2006, Blizzard announced the Draenei as the new Alliance race. Although the Draenei shown look very similar to the Eredar, they look nothing like the Draenei in Warcraft III. It is revealed that the Draenei were originally a group of noble Eredar (led by the third Eredar leader, Velen) that fled Argus with the help of the Naaru when their race joined Sargeras and his Burning Legion. The Draenei seen in Warcraft III were only a subset of Draenei who were mutated by the fel magics of the Orcs. Most Draenei actually look like the original Eredar.

The word Draenei means "Exiled Ones" in Eredan, and the Eredar have no love for the Draenei, who they feel betrayed them by not joining Sargeras.

So... are Draenei actually demons? This adds a new element to them... a dark side, if you will... comments?

Gnomish roguish
10-09-2006, 09:09 PM
I got really lost in that story

Hollen
10-09-2006, 09:18 PM
You don't really have to read it all, it just says that Eredar are a demonic race, and Draenei are renamed Eredar, therefore Draenei = demon.

Icefrost
10-09-2006, 10:45 PM
I would consider them somewhat similar to the orcs: originally 'normal', corrupted by demons and...well I think you get my point.

rasik
11-09-2006, 12:59 AM
What Icefrost said. The Eredar were originally not a demonic race. However Sargeras' corruption turned the majority of them into demons, apart from the renegade Eredar who renamed themselves the Draenei. So you could possibly argue that they are demons by association, but by that token you could argue that the Orcs of Thrall's Horde are demonic due to their relationship to the Fel Orcs of Hellfire Citadel.

Leviathonlx
11-09-2006, 01:07 AM
The Draenei are the Eredar that didn't follow the demonic path that Archimonde and Kil'Jaeden and there Eredar followed. Just like the Orcs that follow Thrall are not demons as they gave up the bloodlust before it transformed them to the extent that the Fel Orcs have. The same goes for the Night Elves and how the ones that did not follow Ashzara are not demons unlike the ones that did that later became Naga and Satyrs.

oper
11-09-2006, 01:34 AM
reading before posting helps alot.

Morail
11-09-2006, 04:23 AM
Banishable draenei just what the locks need!
FYI they are squids related to Davy jones nothing else.

RebirthOfMak
12-09-2006, 02:41 AM
Hmm.. they're demons yet practice the way of a paladin. >.>

~Mak

rasik
12-09-2006, 03:51 AM
I think we cleared it up a few posts back that the Draenei that follow the beliefs of the Paladin - indeed, any of the Draenei at all - are not demonic. Their Eredar (Kil'Jaedan, Archimonde etc etc) cousins are.

Leviathonlx
12-09-2006, 04:31 AM
Basicly disregard the original lore and pretend it never existed as its been retconned.