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Leviathonlx
13-09-2006, 09:51 PM
Blizzard released a interactive map today of Outland that shows towns, instances etc.

Seems like the beta really is around the corner with all the info Blizzard is releasing latley.

Noticed theres a instance we havn't heard anything about in Blades Edge mountains named Gruul's Lair.


http://worldofwarcraft.com/burningcrusade/townhall/outlandmap.html

Hettar
13-09-2006, 10:17 PM
I'm curious about the dots labelled as "Faction". Can anyone enlighten me please ?

Leviathonlx
13-09-2006, 10:19 PM
That means its a faction other then the horde or alliance, like the Cenarion Circle .

Valas Azuviir
13-09-2006, 10:31 PM
Allerian Stronghold, those Wildhammers and a couple of the others, I can understand.. Probably remnants of the Expeditionary Force, or Horde forces left behind prior to Draenor going kaboom and who did not join either Illidan's get or the Chaos Orc side...

But Cenarion Refuge? How the heck did they get there with the Dark Portal still closed? Through the Emerald Dream??

Sylvanaar, Thrallmar, Temple of Sha'naar, Thunderlord Stronghold, Zabra'jin are probably new holdings. Though the same question still arises as with those Cenarions, how the heck did they get there with time enough to spare to build an reasonably sized outpost? Or did they take over certain pre-existing structures?

:ponder:

Hmmm.. This is going to be.. interesting..

Leviathonlx
13-09-2006, 10:43 PM
Well a lot of the settlements have a lot of relief box kind of things and are very small which means they are probably recently constructed the Cenarion Refuge is literally 2 buildings a moonwell and a flight path.

Hellfire Penninsula:

Thrallmar and Honor Hold are 2 new factions for the alliance and horde that you get reputation with, Honor Hold is where we meet Danath. And the other 2 towns are the main towns the horde one being a Blood Elf settlement and the other a Draenei Ruin.

Zangarmarsh:

Swamprat Post is a little troll fishing village and Zabra'jin is a large troll town with huts connecting to a few mushrooms and a wood planks holding the other buildings above the marsh. The alliance town Telredor is based on top of a giant mushroom and you probably get there via teleporters by the looks of it I never really noticed the Orebor Harborage while in Zangarmarsh. Sporeggar is a little Sporeling town.

Nagrand:

Its the PvP zone, the capturable town is Halaa, I am not sure what inhabits Aeris as the buildings there were a bit wierd. Both the alliance and horde towns are very fortified.

Terokar Forest:

The Alliance town Allerian Stronghold is where we meet Alleria its a well fortified town. The horde town is a well fortified town also. Shattrath City is the city Blizzard talked about where you choose which faction you wish to ally, the subtitle when you enter the zone is 'Sanctuary'.

Blades Edge Mountains:

Alliance town is decently large town on a cliff overlooking the huge Ogre encampment below Gronn'Bor Shrine. The horde town Thunderlord Stronghold is the stronghold of the Thunderlord Clan, apparently I guess they survived the explosion of Draenor and some of them were not slaughtered by Ner'zhul wonder whose leading them now though since Fenris was killed by Ner'zhul. Or Blizzard retconned the whole destruction of the Thunderlord Clan.

Shadowmoon Valley:

Wildhammer Stronghold is where we meet Kurdran Wildhammer the 3rd of the alliance expeditionary force that closed the Dark Portal. The horde town was a well fortified town like the alliance base also. Considering Auchindoun does not have a raid instance like Tempest Keep and Coilfang and the Ancient Draenei Base is a faction maybe Akama left Illidan and leads the Broken here.


Netherstorm:

Area 52 is a goblin town, never noticed the other town.

Thats what I know of the new cities. :p

I wonder where Khadgar and Turalyon are though in the expansion towns. If Blizzard keeps at least slightly to there original plan Khadgar comes through the portal and warns the alliance of the Burning Legion and Illidan so maybe he is just in Stormwind in the expansion.

Valas Azuviir
13-09-2006, 11:43 PM
Or all things considering, mayhaps Turylon is warning the Alliance, whereas Khadgar is warning the Horde. Rather depends upon how much the latter has learned since his.. walkabout.. especially with regards to the BL-Orc issue, his former mentor's reappearance and disappearance and who did and did not listen to him when he warned of the coming of the Scourge and BL.

And of course, he could just be looking for Garona for a booty call. :grin:

Good to know that the regular Alliance/Horde and certain faction outposts are little more than raider/bandit outposts, and with the pre-established members of each group, Expeditionary Force and old Hordies being well entrenched. Sounds about right, considering how much time it takes to build a reasonably built and properly defended town, let alone a citadel or something else.

Area 52, now why am I not surprised that the Gobbo's are there. :grin:

Leviathonlx
14-09-2006, 12:04 AM
Yea I forgot about Garona wonder if she will make a appearance in the expansion.

The horde really are lacking heroes to see in Outland, the one orc war hero that everyone thought would be with them was Kargath Bladefist but instead hes a boss in the Hellfire Military wing. So really wonder what Blizzard is going to do to give the horde some actual bigger chars lore-wise to meet.

Lichbane
14-09-2006, 05:55 AM
Area 52, now why am I not surprised that the Gobbo's are there. :grin:
Actually I was expecting it to be more of a gnominsh "research installation" myself.

Calamir
14-09-2006, 06:18 AM
I think Garona will make an appearance in BC. Surely they didn't pull her out of Orgrimmar and didn't retcon her into being half-orc, half-draenei for nothing :)

zkajan
14-09-2006, 05:10 PM
didnt' Garona die at the end of The Last Guardian?

j1mb0x99
14-09-2006, 05:20 PM
Click in order:
Shadowmoon
Blade's Edge
Nagrand
Netherstorm
Zangar
Hellfire
Terokkar

-JiM

silkfire
14-09-2006, 05:59 PM
Ye, small dots appear over the letters: O U T L A N D

Leviathon, what makes u certain it's a goblin town, can u describe its location? floating? architecture?

WingedNazgul
14-09-2006, 06:11 PM
Ye, small dots appear over the letters: O U T L A N D

Not to mention the rather animated surprise after clicking all those in order...

Leviathonlx
14-09-2006, 06:17 PM
Ye, small dots appear over the letters: O U T L A N D

Leviathon, what makes u certain it's a goblin town, can u describe its location? floating? architecture?

The towns walls are the same as gagetzan and Everlook and it has goblin buildings. I can post pictures of all horde/alliance towns in a few hours, but my lunchbreaks almost over so I can't now :p

Also Garona didn't die at the end of the Last Gaurdian, Sargeras just put all of Medivhs doubts etc. into her head before being killed by Lothar driving her mostly insane and causing her to kill King Llane which she considered a true friend due to how he treated her. Later Doomhammer captures her and tortures the info of where Gul'dan is out of her and then she dissappears.

yavvy
14-09-2006, 06:18 PM
Click in order:
Shadowmoon
Blade's Edge
Nagrand
Netherstorm
Zangar
Hellfire
Terokkar

Terrokar before Hellfire on the EU site.

liquidicem
14-09-2006, 06:49 PM
Looks like no planned world event to open the portal. It will just be open when you load the expansion.

http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=26303639&pageNo=1&sid=1#4

Valas Azuviir
14-09-2006, 07:04 PM
Also Garona didn't die at the end of the Last Gaurdian, Sargeras just put all of Medivhs doubts etc. into her head before being killed by Lothar driving her mostly insane and causing her to kill King Llane which she considered a true friend due to how he treated her. Later Doomhammer captures her and tortures the info of where Gul'dan is out of her and then she dissappears.

Looked more like a standard geas spell to me, intermixed with possibly a fear or horror spell to drive her away for the time being. She was perfectly aware that she'd be the one who'd kill Llane due to a prior future vision in Kharazan's library, course Khadgar managed to convince her that the future was fluid and with the fight against Medivh-Sargeras this was proven to be not the case with regards to this specific incident.

Relationship between her and Llane, I'd sooner type as familial, with him being a sort of father figure to her in a way that Gul'dan never was. Hence, why she initially went to pieces after witnessing the vision.

As an addendum though, everyone thought that Doomhammer had her executed after having her tortured. This was retconned just prior to WoW's OB iirc, with her appearing in the Ravenholdt hideout, and with Metzen later on letting on her still had plans for her, plus there was that picture on PCAccelerator which most folks presume it's her, considering said figure appear far too human-like to be a full blooded orcish female.

Side note, funnily enough Medivh did say that her differing appearance, was because her non-Orcish parent belonged to a race which was rather human like in appearance, and we now know non-corrupted Draenei do NOT look like humans at all. :grin:

Though it does explain why she's indeed more attractive than your average Orcish female.

silkfire
14-09-2006, 07:20 PM
Oh goblins! why must they interfere with everything?

Area 52, the goblin town in Netherstorm.

http://img125.imageshack.us/img125/8013/area52xlg1.jpg

Leviathonlx
14-09-2006, 10:00 PM
Here are the pics of the towns, I only took screenshots of the main towns.

Hellfire Penninsula:

Honor Hold
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n28/leviathonlx/hellfirea.jpg

Temple of Sha'naar
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n28/leviathonlx/hellfirea2.jpg

Thrallmar, still think this is a funny name
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n28/leviathonlx/hellfireh.jpg

Falcon Watch
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n28/leviathonlx/hellfireh2.jpg

Leviathonlx
14-09-2006, 10:01 PM
Zangarmarsh:

Telredor, seems you teleport in from the ground also not textured all the way yet
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n28/leviathonlx/zangara.jpg

Zabra'jin
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n28/leviathonlx/zangarh.jpg

Nagrand:

Telaar, only can access via the bridges seen in the picture
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n28/leviathonlx/nagranda.jpg

Garadar
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n28/leviathonlx/nagrandh.jpg

Leviathonlx
14-09-2006, 10:04 PM
Terokar Forest

Allerian Stronghold
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n28/leviathonlx/terokara.jpg

Stonebreaker Hold
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n28/leviathonlx/terokarh.jpg

Blades Edge Mountains

Sylvanaar, too many trees to get a aerial shot
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n28/leviathonlx/bladesedgea.jpg

Thunderlord Stronghold
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n28/leviathonlx/bladesegdeh.jpg

Leviathonlx
14-09-2006, 10:05 PM
The Netherstorm:

Area 52
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n28/leviathonlx/area52.jpg

Stormspire, must be an elevator there that takes you up
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n28/leviathonlx/stormspire.jpg

How it looks up top
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n28/leviathonlx/stormspire2.jpg

Leviathonlx
14-09-2006, 10:06 PM
Shadowmoon Valley:

Shadowmoon Village
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n28/leviathonlx/shadowmoonh.jpg

Wildhammer Stronghold
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n28/leviathonlx/shadowmoona.jpg

silkfire
14-09-2006, 10:42 PM
all those picture can be seen loooong ago on wowwiki, just old stuff

Naolin
14-09-2006, 10:44 PM
all those picture can be seen loooong ago on wowwiki, just old stuff

Still they are nice. I hadn't seen em yet :p

zkajan
14-09-2006, 10:47 PM
wow very nice, thank you

Leviathonlx
14-09-2006, 11:31 PM
all those picture can be seen loooong ago on wowwiki, just old stuff

I doubt many people have seen what the towns look like considering WoWWiki deletes alpha content images so for most people its new.

rasik
14-09-2006, 11:39 PM
Yeah these are new to me - thanks Leviathon!

silkfire
15-09-2006, 07:36 AM
oh ok, i saw them all yesterday morning, that's why it's old, heheh

TacticSiege
15-09-2006, 04:37 PM
Awesome, thanks for the pictures! Old or not those are hawt, Im curious as to where they came from?

Leviathonlx
15-09-2006, 04:41 PM
Awesome, thanks for the pictures! Old or not those are hawt, Im curious as to where they came from?


There taken from the alpha.

xmuskrat
15-09-2006, 07:25 PM
Thrallmar, still think this is a funny name

Orgrimmar is named after Orgrim Doomhammer. Why not a place named after Thrall?

Leviathonlx
15-09-2006, 10:09 PM
Orgrimmar is named after Orgrim Doomhammer. Why not a place named after Thrall?

Orgrimmar sounds better then Thrallmar :p

RedSnipe
16-09-2006, 01:32 PM
looks juicy

yavvy
16-09-2006, 01:42 PM
Orgrimmar sounds better then Thrallmar :p
That's just because you're used to it.

Leviathonlx
17-09-2006, 03:00 AM
hehe I was going through the WoWWiki pages and noticed someone editted a lot of the town descriptions to exactly what I wrote on the first page :p

xXmarkXx
17-09-2006, 03:57 AM
Seems like Blizz have put a lot more effort into the looks of some of those towns, they look a lot better than whats around now.

Cant wait for BC to come out now to visit them all in person so to speak.

Naolin
17-09-2006, 11:19 AM
Seems like Blizz have put a lot more effort into the looks of some of those towns, they look a lot better than whats around now.

Cant wait for BC to come out now to visit them all in person so to speak.

All the areas look better in BC, but I guess that is expected 2 years after release. Still me like :cloud9: