How long time does it take?

[Skumhesten]

Hi all

I´m new to wow and was thinking of all the instances. Can someone tell me how long time it takes with a normal pick up group?

Stratholme
Scholomance
Maraudon
LBRS
BRS
UBRS
Sunken
DM East
Ulda
ZF
ZG
Others?

Hope someone want to help me with this little "problem"

Skumhesten

[CreslinHellscream]

Strat - 2 Hours max depending on the group (can be done in 45mins so really shouldn't take that long)

Scholo - Longer about 3-4 hours depending on the group, if its a bad group it can take quite along time.

Maraudon - Depends which bit, Princess run is pretty straight forward and takes about an hour or so with a decent group. The whole place (Purple Orange + Princess) would probably take aaaaages.

LBRS - Can be a bit of a killer to do the whole thing, takes a fair while especially with a bad group, I would say... 2-3 hours.

UBRS - Not that long of an instance, but quite challenging in some places for an inexperianced PUG, so can take as long as 3 hours, but could also be done in as little as an hour an a half I guess ?

ST - Only done it once but remember it being quite hard and long but we didnt exactly have an awesome group. I would say at least 2 hours though, if you go at the appropriate level.

DM East - Not so bad, easist wing in DM, probably about 2 hours approx.

Uldaman - Quite hard for its level, well the later on parts anyway, can take quite some time to complete the whole place, a good 2 hours maybe more, though I haven't exactly done Ulda that much so could be more/less.

ZF - With a good group can be done fairly quickly, about 2 hours I would guess at.

ZG is a raid instance, to clear the whole place it takes about 3-4 hours at least, when your still learning it though much longer, and you do it with 20 other people. Can be done faster with overpowered gear and an awesome group.

Generally all the non-raid instances can be done with a decent group in about 2 hours.. but you rarely get a decent group, so when I'm doing an instance I try and make sure I have at least 3-4 hours spare in case things go badly :P

[Redmumba]

Just to note, clearing a place like ZG with a PUG (as in, you didn't just join a guild raid) will take much longer, and will typically be a lot more frustrating. If you get in on a guild raid, you'll notice how much more enjoyable it is...

I have to disagree on Scholo, though... It can easily be done in 2 hours, especially if you've got a good group--but that's not entirely necessary. The worst one to watch out for is most likely UBRS--with a bad group, 3+ hours isn't uncommon, and you'll realize how tired you get of being in the same instance for that long.

I'd say a general 3-4 hour estimate is a bit overkill for a lot of them--unless you're talking about the end-game instances (Scholo, Strat, etc.), you're probably not going to have a problem finishing them in 2-3 hours, ever.

[FodderCannoned]

yeah i agree with red, your numbers are a little high

[Herald of Doom]

I can tell you how long it took me on average :)

Stratholme --> just below two hours
Scholomance --> 2 hours good group, 3 with a bad one (skippin jandice ofc)
Maraudon -> only done princess runs which are like 1-1.15 hours
LBRS -> around 2
BRS --> brd? brd can take up to 8 hours if you do it all in a bad group, but you only do parts of it each time.
UBRS -> between 1 and a half and two hours
Sunken -> depends, first time it's EXTREMELY confusing and i didn't finish, now i'd say 1 hour and a half for killing the big dragon (never done the other part except with me and 4 60's hehe)
DM East-> Hmm, I'd say around an hour and 45 minutes, but i only did it with good groups
Ulda -> it takes fooooreeeeveeer.. and the final boss is extremely difficult for it's level imho
ZF -> hm, to clear it all i'd say 3 hours, but i did it in pieces so hard to tell
ZG -> only done first boss so couldnt say


Hope it helps a little Skum ;)

HoD

[Oatmealsmurf]

It will all completely vary based on the skill of the group and how well you know the instance. For example, I've been in bad groups just learning ZF that took 3-4 hours. A good group that knows the instance in the same gear (especially since it got pwnd by the nerf stick)... you're looking at 90 minutes tops... and only that long because of the event on the stairs.

UBRS is another good example. It's really not a very long instance but a bad or slow group will drag it out a long time.

[Skumhesten]

Thx alot for your help.

And a hello to HoD. Didn´t know you went to wow.

Skumhesten

[Herald of Doom]

Thx alot for your help.

And a hello to HoD. Didn´t know you went to wow.

Skumhesten
I sure did :thumbsup: Got a 60 mage and a 60 hunter and I just started raiding with my mage. Have you picked a server yet? Feel free to visit krasuss on Argent Dawn (europe)

PS: ZF is more like 2 hours, shouldnt take three unless you screw up, my bad :)

HoD

[Trepidation]

Our guild is pretty much "anti" pug. Not for the reason of gear but for the reason of "experience" and "skill". Our typical group lands up having 3/5 average blues, 1 highly epic toon, 1 gimp (greens and low blues)

Based upon those reqs...it takes about this long

Stratholme - 3 hours both sides (personal record is 1.4 hours for both sides)

Scholomance - 2 hours includig batman and vectus but excluding jandice (personal record is 1.2 hours for a FULL clear)

UBRS - 2 hours typical (personal record is a 1.2 hour clear)

DM East - 1 hour tops (personal record is 30 minutes)

ZG - Zg is a blend like above typically 4 including all bosses except fishing boss and alchemy boss. If we bring a T2 team, we can do it all in 3 hours.

The biggest thing about his game is having people understand it isn't your class that is needed, it is what the group has in terms of skills and how to use those skills that is needed. You don't need to AoE the welps on the way to rattlegore in scholo. It is actually quite effective just to assist burn them down. Healing anything other than cloth is MUCH easier. That is just one example

Another example is knowing the instance and its quirks. The more people that "know" the instance (this doesn't mean run it 50x, but actually know what the mobs do) the easier it gets. For the room with the summoners in scholo, I ALWAYS mind control one pull it back. The reason being is on pull, those guys love to run and agro a group next to them. So, MC one, burn down the other two and the park the summoner in a nice spot to be pwned. Plus, the life drain and melee debuff don't hurt either.

I sometimes think i'm the only person with an electronic notebook that has every mob listed for every instance, what their specials are, whether or not they attack from range or run to you, etc.

[Morollan]

Stratholme - 3 hours both sides (personal record is 1.4 hours for both sides) Do you really mean that you cleared both sides of Strat up to and including Belnazzar and the Baron in 1 hour 24 minutes? If so, I'd very much like to know how, cos I think it's physically impossible with the group you described (and probably even with a full Tier 3 equipped group too to be honest).

I sometimes think i'm the only person with an electronic notebook that has every mob listed for every instance, what their specials are, whether or not they attack from range or run to you, etc. Um....I think you are.

[Wintrow]

I sometimes think i'm the only person with an electronic notebook that has every mob listed for every instance, what their specials are, whether or not they attack from range or run to you, etc.

Um....I think you are.
Definately

[Telmar]

Do you really mean that you cleared both sides of Strat up to and including Belnazzar and the Baron in 1 hour 24 minutes? If so, I'd very much like to know how, cos I think it's physically impossible with the group you described (and probably even with a full Tier 3 equipped group too to be honest).

Its possible in full t2 actually :)

Baron side in 30-35 minutes (bare in mind that you can do it in 45 minutes in blues), then you've got almost an hour to do scarlet, easy :)

Personally I've done both in around 30 mins for each, but never done them one after the other like that, might suggest it as a way to grind out some cash after tonights hideously expensive loatheb. cheers :)

[Cerberus]

UBRS is probably the only instance a pug will outright fail at completing. LBRS and Scholo (possibly sunken as well) can take longer than people planned on and end up with people leaving.
Allways keep an eye out for class balance. I allways make sure to bring the core classes if I go with a pug. At least someone you know can handle it.

[Morollan]

Its possible in full t2 actually :)

Baron side in 30-35 minutes (bare in mind that you can do it in 45 minutes in blues), then you've got almost an hour to do scarlet, easy :)

Personally I've done both in around 30 mins for each, but never done them one after the other like that, might suggest it as a way to grind out some cash after tonights hideously expensive loatheb. cheers :) The 45 min run is done primarily without looting though, so if you're going at a similar speed throughout, there would hardly be much loot to cover your repair bills.

[Trepidation]

Nope, we looted as we went, it was quite profitable actually...we even had two deaths on the run (both quite funny actually). You have to remember we had two DPS warriors in full DPS gear....My T2+ healing gear was pushed to its limits many times. The 1.4 hour run was done with me (full T2 priest) + mage (1/2 T1) + DPS warrior #1 (good blues and purples) + DPS warrior #2 (very good DPS purples) + rogue (mid blues). Two DPS warriors blendering 4+ mobs = huge DPS.

As a point of note...during cannon willy, I only used the cannon ONCE, and that was after he was dead. The DPS was that high. Even on live side, we did not rest, there was almost no CC because that reduced multi-target damage. It was just a slaughter....Mobs died so fast that some battles I regained more mana than I spent.

[CreslinHellscream]

I guess I just had alot of bad groups then :P ><

[Morollan]

You have to remember we had two DPS warriors in full DPS gear....My T2+ healing gear was pushed to its limits many times. The 1.4 hour run was done with me (full T2 priest) + mage (1/2 T1) + DPS warrior #1 (good blues and purples) + DPS warrior #2 (very good DPS purples) + rogue (mid blues). Two DPS warriors blendering 4+ mobs = huge DPS. Ah, I think this is where the confusion sets in. Your earlier post said "3/5 average blues, 1 highly epic toon, 1 gimp (greens and low blues)" so I naturally assumed that the times stated were with that group. All is clear now.

[Trepidation]

Ah, I think this is where the confusion sets in. Your earlier post said "3/5 average blues, 1 highly epic toon, 1 gimp (greens and low blues)" so I naturally assumed that the times stated were with that group. All is clear now.

I was more responding to the person who said it couldnt' be done in T3. A full T3 group could probably do it 1 hour total. It would just be pure destruction on a stuck. A single T3 mage could wax a trash elite in 7 seconds; less with a bit of luck.

But from your point I said the typical was 3 hours with the typical group. A personal record should have indicated that something special was going on which I guess I should have defined more clearly.

[Dynatos]

Ah, I think this is where the confusion sets in. Your earlier post said "3/5 average blues, 1 highly epic toon, 1 gimp (greens and low blues)" so I naturally assumed that the times stated were with that group. All is clear now.

He also said "3 hours (personal record is a 1.2 hour clear)". He didn't indicate that his 1.2 hour record was with a typical, average geared group.

Hell, I've done UBRS in 45 minutes to an hour, repeatedly. That includes every boss in UBRS except Father Flame.

This was while we were farming for Eviscerate and Ferocious Bite. The record group consisted of 2 very well geared Rogues (BWL/AQ40), 2 very well geared Warriors (one in full Tier 2 with Thunderfury, one in a mix of BWL and AQ40 epics), a Tier 2 Priest, a Tier 2 Druid, a Tier 1/2 Druid (me), and 3 well-geared Mages.

We didn't use any crowd control at all, and didn't stop to drink or eat. We just tore everything apart. Hell, we even AOE'd Drakk and his buddies.

[Aswer]

Nope, we looted as we went, it was quite profitable actually...we even had two deaths on the run (both quite funny actually). You have to remember we had two DPS warriors in full DPS gear....My T2+ healing gear was pushed to its limits many times. The 1.4 hour run was done with me (full T2 priest) + mage (1/2 T1) + DPS warrior #1 (good blues and purples) + DPS warrior #2 (very good DPS purples) + rogue (mid blues). Two DPS warriors blendering 4+ mobs = huge DPS.

As a point of note...during cannon willy, I only used the cannon ONCE, and that was after he was dead. The DPS was that high. Even on live side, we did not rest, there was almost no CC because that reduced multi-target damage. It was just a slaughter....Mobs died so fast that some battles I regained more mana than I spent.

Strat Scarlet can be fully cleared in 30-35 minutes with people that have never laid foot in BWL. Period. Hell, we used to do full-clear orb runs at 35ish minutes before we even had Rag down. You don't need that kind of equipment to clear both parts of strat in 1.4 hours, not by a long shot. I haven't timed our orb runs now that we have bwl on farm, but we start the third scarlet reset before 60 minutes from starting the first one pass. We've even done this with 3 frost mages, enhancement shammie as a tank, feral druid as a healer.

Coordinating the Nova cycles will let you AoE everything into oblivion, yes, the groups with battle mages too.