Help a noob please? Dual Wield vs Range / Warrior / Server Questions

[xDarkDrifterx]

Hello.

Okay, here's my question/problem atm. I'm not playing yet (upgrading pc) though I will be in roughly 2 weeks.

I have the official game guide and have been reading so many posts, specs, guides, etc from many many sources and I still can’t decide on my class.

I am used to playing a mage (DragonRaja) and I played him to great ends enjoying every moment especially the PvP aspect.

Now I've kind of narrowed down my decision to Alliance as either a Mage, Hunter, or Warrior with an Alt Warlock (for creating various stones rez,health,etc.) .

Here's my problem, if I play a DPS class I want to dual wield . . . why?, I dunno, I guess I like the idea and look of it. So, I'm thinking I could go with a Hunter . . but If I go with a Hunter and add enough points so that I can do decent melee damage AND decent ranged attack, will I be just that? . . .decent. I am worried that while trying to enjoy the class I'll not be able to spec my char to a good enough point that the damage he deals will win fights (PvP or Mob). I'm thinking WoW is probably the same as any other MMORPG and that if I don't fully spec my char for range or for melee I'll never be able to kill that high level warrior or whatever (on an equal playing field lvl 60 vs 60 with roughly equal gear)

So, I ask all you veterans . . .what's your opinions? I like the idea of the hunter b/c it will allow me to be versatile. I don't really want to be a warrior b/c I hate tanking . . .being a mage for 2 years will do that to you lol, (and I'm not aware of what warriors can do with range if anything) . . . I thought about a Palli but I dunno how they are . . . and they can't dual wield (at least what I've read doesn't say that they can).

There's no downside for me, b/c I can always do whatever I want with my char or just go with a mage. But I'd really appreciate some opinions especially when it comes to PvP and the higher end content.

What do you guys think, would I be selling my char short and be left with a life of mediocre damage that never really kills anything or anyone (especially if I add points for both melee and range with a Hunter)? :undecided:

Also, I have seen that when choosing a server, a certain class may not be accessible b/c there are already too many of that class created . . . is there a way to check this? If when creating my account could I chose a server and then see that the class I want is not available and then re-choose before I have created any character (basically back out of it and re-choose)? Also, is there a way to make sure that the server you choose isn't filled with mostly your faction and not much of the other? I'm guessing this is an issue on the newer servers.

Thanks in advance for the help.

:shocked:. . . wow that was long . . . :shocked:

[djiss]

If you think Warrior only mean tanking, you are far far far away from the truth.

I like to say Dualwielding Warrior are Combat Rogue who traded stealth for plate. :azn:

[xDarkDrifterx]

If you think Warrior only mean tanking, you are far far far away from the truth.

I like to say Dualwielding Warrior are Combat Rogue who traded stealth for plate. :azn:

Really? I would definately appreciate some ellaboration on the Dual Warrior point if you have the time bro . . . ty! :thumbsup:

[Morail]

DW classes are rogue warrior shaman(if spec) hunter.

Only rogue and warrior are pure melee that kind of narrows down your choises.

[djiss]

I say that cuz I had a rogue before. He was DW Dagger with Assassination/Combat talent. I was more interested in raw damage than stealthing/stunlocking, even more when I began to do some end-game raid. For me, Stealth was only useful for opener, and only if I was already stealthed before they start the encounter. Stuning got less useful in most of the end-game. Positioning for backstab was a pain sometime. So I gone Combat/Assassination, dual wielding 2 sword. In the end, I was playing like a warrior, but with leather... :ponder: So I traded my Stealth ability to wear plate. :azn:

Also, someone in my guild like to say Rogue should re-roll Fury Warrior.
Done :thumbsup:

[JaedxRapture]

DO NOT go Hunter and try to melee. That's as dumb as trying to heal as a warrior!
Trust me. Hunter: You melee, pet tanks.

I suggest Hunter. They are the best for soloing. (And for soloing, I suggest Beast Mastery if you do go Hunter.)

[JaedxRapture]

DO NOT go Hunter and try to melee. That's as dumb as trying to heal as a warrior!
Trust me. Hunter: You melee, pet tanks.

I suggest Hunter. They are the best for soloing. (And for soloing, I suggest Beast Mastery if you do go Hunter.)
Edit: Hunter: You range, pet tanks.
I feel stupid now.

[zkajan]

yeah, melee hunter is about the dumbest thing you could do (unless you have ultra-compeling roleplay reasons)
when a hunter ends up in melee range (it hapens sometime) his primary concern should be "what do I do to get back to poping caps with my bow/gun/xbow"

[xDarkDrifterx]

Right on . .ty everyone . . . can anyone answer the question about the server as well?

TY!

[Dynatos]

Hello.
Also, I have seen that when choosing a server, a certain class may not be accessible b/c there are already too many of that class created . . .

Uh, that's never the case. You'll never be locked out of creating a class because there are "too many" on the server, even if everyone's main is a Hunter...

Remember that each race can only be certain classes. Are you sure you aren't trying to create a Human Hunter or something (not allowed)?



Also, is there a way to make sure that the server you choose isn't filled with mostly your faction and not much of the other? I'm guessing this is an issue on the newer servers.

Run a google search for "WoW Census". There are a couple of sites that keep track of such information as what and how many of each class, race, and faction are on a server.

[xDarkDrifterx]

I see . . . cool . . thank you Dynatos!

[Your Average WoW Player]

The only reason hunter has DW is so we can have two weapons and get more Agility out of it all. :thumbsup:

[Beruen]

The only reason hunter has DW is so we can have two weapons and get more Agility out of it all. :thumbsup:

And to have mana oil on two weapons. I had a blue 2H axe drop that had all the agility bonus of both my 1H axes put together, but I keep the 1Hs around anyway for just that reason. I solo with the 2H (it has other bonuses the 1Hs don't, plus much higher DPS), instance with the 1Hs.

Seriously, WoW has some penalties on both the main hand and off hand weapon when dual wielding. Both rogues and warriors can spend talent points to offset that, but hunters are stuck with it. So if I have to melee, I'd rather have a 2H, but if I'm not melee'ing, the potential for more agility and other bonuses on two 1H weapons beats any 2H weapon I'm likely to get my hands on.

[Ashoran]

Although a Warrior does not necessarily equal tank, dont roll a Warrior if you dont want to tank. You will tank at some point, and if you dont youre just making it hard for yourself.

Also note that Rogues, Hunters and Warriors are the most popular classes, so you might have trouble finding groups for instances. Unless your group needs a tank, that is, which you dont seem prepared to do.

[xDarkDrifterx]

Also note that Rogues, Hunters and Warriors are the most popular classes, so you might have trouble finding groups for instances. Unless your group needs a tank, that is, which you dont seem prepared to do.

Good to know . . . I'm sure I'll eventually have several alts . . . I think I'm gonna start with a hunter (to get used to the game) and use my bread and butter as well (a mage) :grin: :thumbsup:

[Calabar]

The trick with WoW, as with all other MMORPGs, is to find the class that best fits your play style. I have six level 60 characters and a couple in the upper 50s. I’ve found every class to be well balanced and fun to play. But my favorite class is hunter. If you love animals then the hunter class is particularly fun. But as others have said, as a hunter you are a ranged combatant. When solo it’s your pet’s job to tick off the mob and hold its attention while you shoot it from afar. And I too would recommend the Beast Mastery tree for your first 31 talent points. That will give you a stronger pet and give it a better chance to keep a mob’s attention. And should you choose to play a hunter you’ll find these two sites to be very helpful:

http://petopia.brashendeavors.net/
http://www.goodintentionsguild.info/

But should you decide you want to play a duel wielding melee character, both rogues and warriors are great fun. If you like to play things on the sneaky side then try the rogue. They only get to wear leather, but they get to stealth, pick NPC pockets, open locks and use poison on their weapons. Warriors are anything but sneaky. But they can take a lot more hits. And a duel wielding fury warrior with a couple of fast weapons is a deadly sight to see. In groups you’ll often be expected to tank, so you’ll need to keep a shield in your pack, but with all the tools a warrior has to play with that can be fun too.

[xDarkDrifterx]

:grin: The trick with WoW, as with all other MMORPGs, is to find the class that best fits your play style. I have six level 60 characters and a couple in the upper 50s. I’ve found every class to be well balanced and fun to play. But my favorite class is hunter. If you love animals then the hunter class is particularly fun. But as others have said, as a hunter you are a ranged combatant. When solo it’s your pet’s job to tick off the mob and hold its attention while you shoot it from afar. And I too would recommend the Beast Mastery tree for your first 31 talent points. That will give you a stronger pet and give it a better chance to keep a mob’s attention. And should you choose to play a hunter you’ll find these two sites to be very helpful:

http://petopia.brashendeavors.net/
http://www.goodintentionsguild.info/

But should you decide you want to play a duel wielding melee character, both rogues and warriors are great fun. If you like to play things on the sneaky side then try the rogue. They only get to wear leather, but they get to stealth, pick NPC pockets, open locks and use poison on their weapons. Warriors are anything but sneaky. But they can take a lot more hits. And a duel wielding fury warrior with a couple of fast weapons is a deadly sight to see. In groups you’ll often be expected to tank, so you’ll need to keep a shield in your pack, but with all the tools a warrior has to play with that can be fun too.

Cool, thanks! I found petopia last week and printed up all the info (great site!) . . . checking out the guild site. :grin:

Looking at the Hunter tree - I think I would want to go almost full marskmanship - (except for whyvern) is uping the animal all that important at early levels? How much and when can you re-spec?

[zkajan]

wyvern sting is not in marksmanship, it's in survival

"upping the animal" (Beastmastery) is for ez-mode lvling since you can sick your pet on the enemy, click autoshoot, and go afk. marksmanship is a lot more involved since you will likely pull agro off your pet (or your pet will get kiled) and you end up kiting a lot. not really sure what survival is good for.. pvp I guess, though I dont' think anyone really goes up to wyvern.

once you hit lvl 10 on any class you get your first talent point to put somehwere, and after that every time you level you get a point. you could theoreticaly put the first point in wrong at lvl 10 then decide you messed up and go pay the man to respec, but that would be kind of a dumb thing to do. you can respec as often as you like provided you have the money to pay for it. I think first respec is 1g, second is 2g, third is 5g, then 10g, then 15g, etc... with a cap at 50g. also if you go for a month without respecing it decays by 5g but will not go below 15g via decay.

[maco]

Hunters are a easy class to lvl and so are rouges warriors are hard to lvl and so are paladins if you whant a easy class be a hunter but you have to get to lvl 10 till you can tame a animal. if you whant to earn cash fast then take up skinning and sell the leather to a vendor or sell it at the AH which you will get a better offer for but may take some time to sell and there is a auction fee.

[xDarkDrifterx]

Thanks guys! :thumbsup:

[maco]

Join lightbringer i'll invite you into my guild :)

[xDarkDrifterx]

Join lightbringer i'll invite you into my guild :)

Thanks for the offer . . . I still need to see if any friends are still playing and if so - which US server they're on (though mostly horde atm) my time zone blah blah . . . you know the drill . . . I added the name of your realm to my todays WoW word.doc (daily info to take home lol). . . so if I can't find my friends you never know, although it's not a PvP server. :undecided: :smiley: