Who Can Use A Bow?

[xchange]

Good Day
Any Idea who can use a bow, I can only see crossbow or is that the same?


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[Redmumba]

Crossbows and Bows are different weapons. You'll need to find the weapon master for Bows (which is in Darnassus, I believe... but not sure) and train for them. Just ask any weapon master, and they'll tell you were to go. :)

[cyradis2003]

Hunters, Rogues and Warriors are the only classes that can use bows/crossbows/guns as far as I know. Warlocks, mages and priests are the only ones that can use wands (these are ranged attacks without mana use for casters and they don't suffer the restrictions of bows/guns/crossbows that don't work if the target is too close) Druids, paladins and Shamen can't use either bows or wands.

You can get weapon training in the major cities, as a guard in Ironforge, Stormwind or Darnassus and they will put a mark on your minimap to guide you through the streets. This works to find trainers, flight masters, banks and profession teachers as well.

(if you rolled horde toons substitute Orgrimmar, Undercity and Thunderbluff as required)

(if you haven't rolled Horde toons you should :wink: ok,ok ... just a suggestion!)

[Valas Azuviir]

Weapon Trainers (http://forums.worldofwar.net/showpost.php?p=3632774&postcount=14). :grin:

[zaneandjamie]

i went to stormwind and found weapons trainer wong ping or something like that.. and he only had crossbow to offer for me.. he didnt offer to train bow.. why is that?

and on top of that.. i went ahead and trained crossbow because there was no bow to train.. i purchased a x-bow and sharp arrows... but when i equip and try to shoot at something it doesnt shoot.. just stands there..

[Caderbery]

You need to go to the weapon master in Darnassus to learn how to use bows.

[zaneandjamie]

ok two questions then

1) how can i get there.. im lvl 21 and obviously ive never left goldshire area.

2) if i decide to just keep crossbow.. why wont it let me shoot it? i equip it and the arrows... it will hold crossbow in my hand.. but when i click on the crossbow button to shoot at a target. it doesnt do anything

[xDarkDrifterx]

ok two questions then

1) how can i get there.. im lvl 21 and obviously ive never left goldshire area.

2) if i decide to just keep crossbow.. why wont it let me shoot it? i equip it and the arrows... it will hold crossbow in my hand.. but when i click on the crossbow button to shoot at a target. it doesnt do anything

You have to drag arrows from you bag to your characters screen the first time (but this is for the bow . .I don't have an xbow).. . should be a slot for it right next to your bow . . . did u get a quiver? (I dont know if u have to have a quiver or not, but I would assume so)

Also, to get to Darnassus (until u get flightpaths) you need to take boat from Menthenil Harbor to Auberdine and then take the other boat from Auberdine to Darnassus . . .but the easiest way would be to get a mage friend to portal you.

[Caderbery]

you cant use arrows on the crossbow, I belive you need to buy Bolts.

To get to Darnassus, to go IF you can get teh tram from SW to get there, travel north through Dun Modr into Loch Modan, travel west into the wetlands, keep traveling west untill you get teh the Docks, Take the left hand side boat once you get off the boat at the other end run straight accross and wait for the second boat. Then you just have to run up a small hill through a red glowey thing and your in Darnassus.

[Dynatos]

you cant use arrows on the crossbow, I belive you need to buy Bolts.

To get to Darnassus, to go IF you can get teh tram from SW to get there, travel north through Dun Modr into Loch Modan, travel west into the wetlands, keep traveling west untill you get teh the Docks, Take the left hand side boat once you get off the boat at the other end run straight accross and wait for the second boat. Then you just have to run up a small hill through a red glowey thing and your in Darnassus.

Since this poster has incorrect information on what boat to take at Menethil, I'll re-explain.

In Stormwind, head to the Dwarven District. Enter the Tram and ride it to Ironforge.

Leave Ironforge by the main gates in the south. Head East through Dun Morogh to Loch Modan.

In Loch Modan, head North through the tunnel known as Dun Modr. This will take you to the Wetlands.

In the Wetlands, follow the road west to Menethil Harbor.

At Menethil Harbor, take the right boat. You will arrive in Darkshore.

Run across the dock to the boat on the other side and take it to Darnassus.

[zaneandjamie]

ok i bought quiver and arrows.. only lets me equipt the arrows.. frickin craziness.. lol

[cyradis2003]

i went to stormwind and found weapons trainer wong ping or something like that.. and he only had crossbow to offer for me.. he didnt offer to train bow.. why is that?

and on top of that.. i went ahead and trained crossbow because there was no bow to train.. i purchased a x-bow and sharp arrows... but when i equip and try to shoot at something it doesnt shoot.. just stands there..

:grin: Been a long time since I was Alliance but I think the bow trainer is in Darnassus and Guns is in Ironforge.

As for using the crossbow be sure you equip the arrows as well as the weapon. There is a small ammo square on your character screen next to the place for your bow, just drag the arrows there. Next you want to use the "shoot" icon and bring that to your task bar. If you open your spell book (P) and look on the general tab you will have a new icon for crossbow skill. Drag the icon from there to wherever you want it on your bars. Using the bow isn't like your attack skill where you just right click on your taget and start swinging. You have to be in the right range and you will have to click the icon or hit the hotkey assigned to "shoot" everytime you want to fire.

ALso the only class that can use ranged weapons for actual damage is a hunter. Rogues and warriors only use them to "pull" monsters - meaning shoot from afar so that you don't go running in and get seen by more than one group of monsters.

Hope this helped :-)

[zaneandjamie]

ok so basicly once i figure out how to shoot xbow it will be pointless to go for bow. cuz thas all im looking for is something to draw stuff out of groups...
so xbow would work just peachy correct?

[Beruen]

Correct. For non-hunters, bows are for pulling and for stat boosts. For hunters. the melee weapon slots are mostly for stat boosts. While hitting hard when pulling is a bonus (assuming you're the main tank), it's not the point of pulling.

As for a quiver, I'd skip it if you're not a hunter. I don't think it's needed, I think you can fire arrows out of your regular inventory but I could be wrong.

If you can skip it, do so, as it takes up a bag slot and you can only put arrows in quivers. The only advantage of using a quiver is that quivers provide a boost to the rate of fire, but if you're not a hunter, you can't auto-shoot ranged weapons, so you'll lose more speed than you gain by having to repeatedly hit the shoot button. Oh, and it's usually easier/cheaper to get a quiver of a given size than a regular bag, but if you're only using the weapon to pull, you won't go through enough arrows to make giving up a bag slot worth it.

[Seldom]

you cant use arrows on the crossbow, I belive you need to buy Bolts.

No, you use arrows for crossbows.

You don't need a quiver since all a quiver does is add haste (compared to a similar sized bag). As stated before, you need to load the arrows into the crossbow in the character screen before you can shoot stuff.

P.S.
Ironically, warriors prefer the AV crossbow while hunters prefer the spear.

[cyradis2003]

ok so basicly once i figure out how to shoot xbow it will be pointless to go for bow. cuz thas all im looking for is something to draw stuff out of groups...
so xbow would work just peachy correct?

As Beruen has said there is no real difference if you are not a hunter. As you level it would be a good idea to train in bows and guns though since you may come across a really nice quill bow or shotgun of the monkey or something which will add a few stat points to agility and stamina. I have always tried to get trained and maintain my weapons skills in everything that my class is able to use. This way you aren't in an instance with a 1 handed sword missing every swing because you have only trained axes.

As for the quiver - they are an absolute waste of space if you aren't a hunter. Used for pulling you will maybe go through 15-20 arrows a day so one stack will last you at least a week. If you get in the habit of always checking your arrows when you repair you should be fine.

[Caderbery]

About that boat, thats what i get for posting while im tired (Need to stop doing that)

Ive never used crossbows but got told i needed to buy a diffrent kind of arrow to use with them (its why i stuck with my bow instead)

[Aerath]

ok so basicly once i figure out how to shoot xbow it will be pointless to go for bow. cuz thas all im looking for is something to draw stuff out of groups...
so xbow would work just peachy correct?


You need to use the 'shoot crossbow' skill - not the 'attack' skill.

Open your skill book ['p' key by default] and drag it to your hotbar.

You could potentially hit someone over the head with a crossbow, but I don't think it'd have that much effect. :ponder:

[Your Average WoW Player]

Correct. For non-hunters, bows are for pulling and for stat boosts. For hunters. the melee weapon slots are mostly for stat boosts. While hitting hard when pulling is a bonus (assuming you're the main tank), it's not the point of pulling.

As for a quiver, I'd skip it if you're not a hunter. I don't think it's needed, I think you can fire arrows out of your regular inventory but I could be wrong.

If you can skip it, do so, as it takes up a bag slot and you can only put arrows in quivers. The only advantage of using a quiver is that quivers provide a boost to the rate of fire, but if you're not a hunter, you can't auto-shoot ranged weapons, so you'll lose more speed than you gain by having to repeatedly hit the shoot button. Oh, and it's usually easier/cheaper to get a quiver of a given size than a regular bag, but if you're only using the weapon to pull, you won't go through enough arrows to make giving up a bag slot worth it.

You can fire out of your regular inventory. It's just that with a quiver or ammo bag you get a speed boost to your shot. And like you said, it's not needed unless you're a hunter. You'll probably get 2-3 shots off at most anyways before they're into melee range.

On a side note, you really don't need an ammo bag as a non-hunter because as I said, you'll only be using 2-3 shots at most before they're in melee range, Hunters will use anywhere from 10-30 some-odd shots a battle, if their pet is tanking properly, perhaps more if against a boss or something. So you need to be carrying 3200 shots (16 slot bag) with you. Plus the increase in speed means more DPS, as you can pull shots out faster. When just using it to pull, you can get away with just having 1-2 stacks sitting in your regular inventory.

[det]

Uh_Oh...this thread seems to be the abyss of miss-information :grin:

[cyradis2003]

Uh_Oh...this thread seems to be the abyss of miss-information :grin:

Says the man who does nothing to clear it all up! :grin:


Let us know how you are getting on with the bow Zaneandjamie, I think we may have all confused you more than you were before.


As for never leaving the human areas .... :shocked: ..... you guys need to get out more!

Head to Stormwind and take the tram to Ironforge (tram is through the instance portal in the dwarven area) find the main gate of Ironforge and walk outside it. Welcome to Dun Morogh :laugh: wander about there for a while then head northish to the mountain passes and follow them to Loch Modan/Thelsamar area. Explore thouroughly! Wander through Dun Algaz pass to the wetlands (ogres on the way!!!) explore carefully as there are lots of level 20-28 thingies about. Head to Menethil and take the boat on the right hand dock as you face the bay. This will take you to elf lands. Wander about there for a while then head southy westish to Ashenvale or take the other boat over to "Elf Island" You will be in a small village with a funky pink tree. Jump through the tree and you will be teleported to Elf capital - Darnassus.

There is way too much to see in this game to limit yourself to human lands. You could even make a horde toon!

[satarina]

you use the same arrows for bows and xbows, there were xbow bolts you had to have in Diablo but not for WoW. and yeah, if you're just needing to pull mobs, a xbow will work fine. however, if you're not a hunter, i know that some classes (like rogues) have like a 1 sec speed penalty on ranged weapons, which makes them fire a little slower than the weapon speed. if this is an issue for you, i would suggest training in bows in darnassus (or guns in IF) since there are bows/guns that are much faster than most of the xbows you'll find.

and as Aerath said, you need to move your 'shoot crossbow' from your spellbook to your bar. that should solve the problem of using the xbow.

now, good luck, and go explore! :wave: