Buff to make Ragg cry...

[Nitsujcm]

Go to UBRS- clear first room and the small room on the left wall just up the stairs in the center. There is a caster in this room that a priest needs to mind control while the group kills everyone else.

This caster has buff that is +100 fire resistance for 1 hour on about a 20 sec cool down. :grin: It is helpful to have some CC for the caster between mind controls. It might be nice to have two priests to rotate the mind controls and so they can get buffed as well.

Buff your tanks and priests and whoever else you want to wait for – then just have them run back down to MC. Summon them back to the group and your good to go. : )

If you wanted too – since it is an hour buff- you could time it with your hearth and keep it up on your tanks for the full run, but you would add quite a bit of down time and it would probably only be worth for a couple of the bosses. Wouldn’t be a bad pre-raid plan to break in to 4 groups and get the raid buffed as quick as possible before you start MC.

It’s probably fun to dual a fire mage with the buff on as well. :thumbsup:

[Dynatos]

Never even knew about this. Funny stuff.


If you wanted too – since it is an hour buff- you could time it with your hearth and keep it up on your tanks for the full run, but you would add quite a bit of down time and it would probably only be worth for a couple of the bosses.

3 bosses, max. The only bosses with some sort of FR requirement are Magmadar, Geddon, and Ragnaros. Magmadar isn't strictly needed; Geddon only really requires FR on the MT; Ragnaros, well, requires as much as possible, especially on the MT.

But, still, interesting find.

[Twoflower]

it is indeed a huge downtime, that s why we only used this buff for learning fire damage heavy encounters, but dont do it any more as soon as we get the encounter under control. We used it for Raggy, Vaelastraz and Firemaw.

And there are several of these mobs around in the entrance hall, get at least 3 priests to buff simultaniously.

( i dont want to sound elitish or anything, thx for sharing, but this has been known for at least a year :) )

[Dynatos]

Just asked a guildmate about this. Apparently it stacks with MotW/FR Aura.

For those learning Vael, it might be an option for their tanks and/or healers.

[Oatmealsmurf]

Yeah knew about this. It's a good way to get your raid comfortable with the Rags fight and last long enough to see the different phases and abilities he has. It's a waste of time to use on any of the other bosses really. It's the spellbinders BRS...

MC them (usually gives you time for two buffs) make sure you have a warrior ready to taunt when MC breaks... rinse and repeat for however many you needed. On our first time doing Rags we had our 40 man raid break up into 4 10 mans got everyone buffed and then ran back down to Rag's chamber to do the fight. We don't use it anymore but it's a nice help. FYI it's an +80 fire resist buff. And it can help everyone because when people get hit by the aoe knockback attack they often get thrown in the lava.

[Fursphere]

Its a good idea, and works well in BWL.

If your guild is having FR problems in MC... oh man, get out there and farm some more. :)

[bhroam]

Our guild uses this for our rag fight. It's a 81-84 FR buff (not 100). We have it down pretty well with 2-3 priests grabbing the spell binders and park the rest of the raid outside. We can get everyone buffed in about 10ish minutes.

It's useful, but it is a crutch IMHO. It's not a substitute for the real thing. You get one shot at rag with it since it doesn't persist through death. It should only be used while you're whipping your guild into shape to get FR.

[jihadicraft]

lawl yeh i remeber we had to use elixirs and extra buff for rag when we sucked too. xD however it is a good find for vael in bwl most guilds use it as they need dps gear.

[Dynatos]

however it is a good find for vael in bwl most guilds use it as they need dps gear.

I wouldn't say most guilds do. We don't because it's just too much of a hassle; we can down Vael easily without it.

[Redmumba]

We'll use this when we're pugging it, since many of them don't have much (if any) FR. Just takes the edge off the encounter for a lot of people...

[mesonm]

it is indeed a huge downtime, that s why we only used this buff for learning fire damage heavy encounters, but dont do it any more as soon as we get the encounter under control. We used it for Raggy, Vaelastraz and Firemaw.

And there are several of these mobs around in the entrance hall, get at least 3 priests to buff simultaniously.

( i dont want to sound elitish or anything, thx for sharing, but this has been known for at least a year :) )

yep....what he said.....

[j1mb0x99]

I thought Blizz had disabled this by removing the buff when you left the zone.
Cool if not.

-JiM

[mesonm]

I thought Blizz had disabled this by removing the buff when you left the zone.
Cool if not.

-JiM

Unsure...I haven't had to use that buff for six or more patch levels....

[Gnat]

when did blizzard stop considering this an exploit?

[Wintrow]

They labeled it "creative use of game mechanics" and thus A-OK with a "Blizzard stamp of approval"

[Oatmealsmurf]

Yeah it was never an exploit and I don't see why someone would think it is. You're using one of the given abilities for a class to help your character progress. Who ever discovered it just made great use of the tools that were available to him.

[Trepidation]

When did people think it is fun bringing up a thread that was last posted in MARCH!

[Oatmealsmurf]

It was last posted in on November 3rd... not March 11th. LOL

[Dynatos]

When did people think it is fun bringing up a thread that was last posted in MARCH!

Huh?

2-11-2006
2nd of November, 2006

/slap Trep

[Trepidation]

Huh?

2-11-2006
2nd of November, 2006

/slap Trep

I blame the euros for this :grin:

[TheBlackestDrake]

I blame the euros for this :grin: Odd, since that would require you to think that March was the second month of the year.

[Dutchgrass]

when did blizzard stop considering this an exploit?

It was never considered an exploit.

The buff itself is 81 or 83 afaik, based on the level of the mob you're using.


Odd, since that would require you to think that March was the second month of the year.

Lol, that made my day. :grin:

[LordXeper]

The only buff to make raggy cry is a Ony head buff on a frostmage. Muahhaa

[det]

Yes, that LBRS buff was used by us as well on our attempts to kill Raggy seriously. We tried to use it on Vael, but really the difference there is to get the tank transition sorted, not overaggro the 4 tanks and keep tanks alive as long as possible..until they have BA and if possible to the point where they blow up.

[Mekere]

Just to let you all know if you do get caught using this, it is now an exploit and you have the risk of getting banned for using it. Just a heads up.

[guardy]

Is there an official page that shows what Blizzard consider exploits?

No offense intended but unless I saw it somewhere official I would still consider it to be okay ...

[Mekere]

I'm sure there is somewhere lost in the zillions of posts... But if you wanna spend a few hours finding it go ahead...

Also another exploit I know of is one that in AQ40 you can skip the 5 hour trash (once you've gotten all the bosses but C'thun down) and get straight to C'thun's Room by using a glitch... But it IS an exploit so if you do get caught using it you WILL be banned.

In fact a full guild got banned because they were caught using it, that's why the Horde still haven't gotten any full tier 3 yet... Or so I've heard, I don't check up with the horde...

I'll try and think of some more for ya.

[wesje]

We'll use this when we're pugging it, since many of them don't have much (if any) FR. Just takes the edge off the encounter for a lot of people...

u pug vael?

where do u live, i rly want to throw a brick thru ur window