Flying Mounts are In

[Osiris]

There is a vendor in Thrallmar that keeps spawning and despawning that sells the mounts. There's a trainer too. The server is down right now otherwise I'd make a video and take some SS.

It's about 5000 gold for the epic including training. Something like 300 for the mount and 4700 for the epic training. It's about 700 gold for the non epic with training.

The ceiling is high. You can get probably 1000 feet off the ground. If you dive to the ground and land you just go into normal mount mode and can fly again by pushing space.

The first thing that I did was fly to an alliance town. I had to practically drop on the heads of the guards to aggro them. Once I did I was flagged and some paladin hit me with his ranged attack which dazed me but didn't dismount me. I hauled my butt out of there.

Flying is like swimming. You push space to move up or you can hold down your right mouse to point you up. Yes, if you drop off of your mount from a high distance you die. When the servers go back up I'm going to go max hight and dismount into the water.

I would have tested it more but I had to run Karazahn. I'll report that later when I kill a few more bosses later tonight.

I haven't been able to get a good look at the alliance mounts yet. The horde one is very basic. It's a wyvern that looks like he has sort of a dragon mask on. 4 different colors. Yes I have them all.

Questions?

[Lezwyn]

Be quick with buying them though, because the vendors will be gone everytime a server crashes or resets.

[Zrond]

How are you playing "WOW" "BC"?

[Viscount]

Just wondering, all of my characters except my paladin have a normal mount. I know that flying mounts are attainable at level 70. So is it worth it to buy an epic mount during my leveling time between 60-70 and then buy a flying mount?

Or should I stuff it, save my money, and use my regular mount for now. And then buy my flying mount at 70. Who knows, maybe the extra 1000g could be an upgrade towards the epic flying mount.

[Kyusoath]

How are you playing "WOW" "BC"?

sorry i can't help it. the ignorance is hurting my head.

please go away.

again sorry , i know some people want to reach out to these people , but this is ignorance to an insane degree. or just a cry for attention

[Viscount]

Lol, I have to admit. I had a chuckle when I saw that.

[Menasheh]

Is it true that the non-epic flying mount is as slow, while flying, as a non-epic normal mount (level 40) is on the ground (i.e. 160% of run speed)? I read that on another site, but I feel like it must be a mistake...

[startika]

Just wondering, all of my characters except my paladin have a normal mount. I know that flying mounts are attainable at level 70. So is it worth it to buy an epic mount during my leveling time between 60-70 and then buy a flying mount?

Or should I stuff it, save my money, and use my regular mount for now. And then buy my flying mount at 70. Who knows, maybe the extra 1000g could be an upgrade towards the epic flying mount.

You need to train to riding skill 150 first (not needed to buy an epic mount, but they r very cheap now),it's about 600-700g i think, and just then can u train to flying mounts.:undecided:

[KalziEast]

Ugh... I thought this game was supposed to be casual friendly... 5.5K gold to go until I can actually get my Flying Mount... Whoohoo...

[Celestia]

Ugh... I thought this game was supposed to be casual friendly... 5.5K gold to go until I can actually get my Flying Mount... Whoohoo...

You're forgetting that casual instances and trash mobs at level 70 in TBC will drop more valuable items and gold. Maybe Osiris can put it into perspective for you from his experiences in the Beta.

[Eastwood1427]

Ugh... I thought this game was supposed to be casual friendly... 5.5K gold to go until I can actually get my Flying Mount... Whoohoo...

Actually, you don't NEED an Epic Flying Mount. The regular one, which is significantly cheaper, can do everything the Epic one can, but is slower. Same with regular land mounts against Epic land mounts. Don't need one, it just makes life easier.

And money is easier to get at 70. You can drop the Twilight Hammer goons as quick as you can do the Azshara Satyr at 60, and lets not forget quest rewards and mob value has gone up significantly.

Yes, the Epic Flying Mount will mean farming. Just like the Epic mount you have right now meant farming. It makes life a lot easier, and is a prestiege item, but the normal, non-Swift versions are still perfectly satisfactory if you don't want to splash out too much.

[Tunga]

Is it true that the non-epic flying mount is as slow, while flying, as a non-epic normal mount (level 40) is on the ground (i.e. 160% of run speed)? I read that on another site, but I feel like it must be a mistake...Pretty sure you've been reading about Druid Flying Form. Last time I heard, standard flying mounts are 200% (same as current epic mounts) and epic flying mounts are either 240% or 260%. OP can probably confirm.

[Jainzar]

I can't help but think that this will just provoke people into just buying gold to get one.

good work blizzard .. i thought you guys wanted to stop gold buying and selling.

this is going to make those people go crazy for gold and in turn it helps those gold seller sites.

why couldn't they just make it some quest reward that gives you access to buying a 'cheap' one .. then everyone won't need to farm/buy gold.

and don't say oh 5k is easy .. you obviously don't know how lazy some people are, i've earnt every single piece of my money, while i watch many others just hit up a site for 3k gold in 5 minutes.

i really hope they change it.

[catabong]

I can't help but think that this will just provoke people into just buying gold to get one.

good work blizzard .. i thought you guys wanted to stop gold buying and selling.

this is going to make those people go crazy for gold and in turn it helps those gold seller sites.

why couldn't they just make it some quest reward that gives you access to buying a 'cheap' one .. then everyone won't need to farm/buy gold.

and don't say oh 5k is easy .. you obviously don't know how lazy some people are, i've earnt every single piece of my money, while i watch many others just hit up a site for 3k gold in 5 minutes.

i really hope they change it.


Clearly you need to pay a bit more attention to the beta forums and posts earlier in this thread. Gold is MUCH easier to come by in the expansion with mobs dropping 70s each. From what I have read it will not be difficult at all to come up with 5k gold by 70.

[Eastwood1427]

I fail to see why. It's not that much of a step up from buying your Epic Mount right now. It requires you to spend time earning gold.

Again, gold will be easier to get in the expansion. Yes, you've actually got to earn it. That's the whole point. If you don't want to pay upwards of 5K for the Swift one, get the regular one which is significantly cheaper, and has all of the same functionality except that it's slower.

The Swift Flying Mounts are there as a reward for spending inordinate amounts of time trying to get a Flying Mount. The reward is going faster and having a different model. That's it. If you don't feel that's a suitable reward for 5K, just throw down the 700 or so for the regular one.

As such, I hope they don't drop the cost. If people can't earn 700G at 70 without having to resort to Gold Buying, they're probably the kind who bought their account in the first place.

[KalziEast]

I don't see how you guys can actually say "Oh, it's easy to get 5K gold in the expansion." when it looks like none of you are in it. Mobs dropping 70s is fine and dandy, but this is supposed to be casual gamer friendly.

[silverpie]

Not so, KalziEast. The 5k Au is to get all the way to the epic flying mount. The regular flying mount is of similar cost to the epic ground pounder.

[Eastwood1427]

but this is supposed to be casual gamer friendly.

It is. Assuming you can get 50s a mob, and you can drop a pair every minute, that's 60G an hour. That's roughly a hundred hours of work for something that's a prestiege item. Much like owning a cross-faction mount.

It's casual friendly in that you can do it over time, in any number of sittings you so desire. You can get half-way, leave it for six months, and come back and you won't have gone backwards or be worried that you're somehow outdated.

As I said, if you don't want to spend that much, you can still buy a regular one for around twelve hours work. Which is, assuming you get an hour to play every day, less than two weeks work for what is a massive achievement and radically alters how you travel and what you can do.

[Lezwyn]

and it's not like you have to grind alot to be able to afford the normal flying mount, as you probably make that much money while leveling.

[Valas Azuviir]

How are you playing "WOW" "BC"?

He's one of the Beta testers.

[Lezwyn]

I can't help but think that this will just provoke people into just buying gold to get one.

good work blizzard .. i thought you guys wanted to stop gold buying and selling.

this is going to make those people go crazy for gold and in turn it helps those gold seller sites.

why couldn't they just make it some quest reward that gives you access to buying a 'cheap' one .. then everyone won't need to farm/buy gold.

and don't say oh 5k is easy .. you obviously don't know how lazy some people are, i've earnt every single piece of my money, while i watch many others just hit up a site for 3k gold in 5 minutes.

i really hope they change it.

I really think this is an unfair argument. According to you unless Blizzard wants to encourage goldsellers they can't put things in the game that cost money. In reality, if you want to keep this game healthy heavy goldsinks are required. It's not like 5000 gold will be a few hours grinding, but it's also not necassary to buy an epic mount. It doesn't serve you any function besides a bit less travel time. The way it's set up as basically the ultimate prestige thing you could have, making it cost a lot of money is required.

[mastermike]

Can you give me a breakdown of costs for each?
Something like:
cost of riding normal flying mount + cost of normal flying mount = $$$ gold
cost of riding epic flying mount + cost of epic flying mount = $$$ gold
and is it just a flat out buy or do you have a quest chain to do?

[KalziEast]

The normal flying mount is MUCH slower, and so I see no need to buy a slow mount, I'd much rather have a mount that's fast and actually worth the time. I'm fine with the 5K gold thing, I just think that it's going to be a kick in the groin for everyone who's more casual.

Mastermike: Normal Flying = 700g Total (I believe they said.) Epic = 5K gold total. I think they said the normal was 80g for the mount, 620g for the training. Whereas the epic is something like 500g for the mount, 4500g for the training.

[Menasheh]

Pretty sure you've been reading about Druid Flying Form. Last time I heard, standard flying mounts are 200% (same as current epic mounts) and epic flying mounts are either 240% or 260%. OP can probably confirm.

I'm not stupid. :p

Syren wrote:
Exoskeleton wrote:
Syren wrote:
Normal Mount: 60% Run, 60% Air
Epic Mount: 100% Run, 280% Air

too bad i am too poor to get an epic-mount Sad but it´s really really cool!


Wait... the normal flying mount speed is 60% in the air? If so that's ridiculous that there's such a large difference between the two. The normal should at least be 150-200% in the air. That's just my opinion.


exactly, it SHOULD be Sad don´t know if it is a bug or something, but it is really crappy right now


Nuked link. That site has goldselling adds folks, please do NOT link to it. Cut and paste if need be, or make reference that you found the info on one of the sites to which you cannot link. If, folks still don't believe you, then just ignore them. Signed Valas

[Schnorres]

our guildie checked the prices for riding and mounts in thrallmar/honor hold:

normal flying mount 90G
fast flying mount 180G
(not sure if it was reduced due to rep)

riding 75: 600G (for 150 epic mounts)
riding 150: 800G (for 225 standard flying mounts)
riding 225: 5000G (for 300 epic flying mounts)

(all numbers from screenshots)

[Menasheh]

Oops, sorry, Valas. My browser blocks all ads so I didn't even know.

[KalziEast]

60% run 60% air is rediculous... 100% run 280% air is also rediculous... I think normal should be 80,120, and the epic should be 120,320, or even keep it a teeny bit lower. 60% movement speed in the air is like walking on the ground. It'd just be easier to take a flight path, then take your epic mount to the place.

[Oatmealsmurf]

Kalzi do you have a gripe with EVERYTHING? Jeez... nothing is going to change. It's just like most casual 60s don't have epic mounts. Bottomline is if they make high end items too easy toget they will lose people who get bored with the game. It's an "epic" item... it should be hard to get just like epic gear is.

And really it's not casual vs. hardcore... it's people who know how to make money vs. people who don't. Take my guild ... most of the members spend as much or more time on the game than I do. Yet in that same time there are still people in my guild who still can't afford to buy their epic mounts. Heck some of em have trouble keeping up with repair costs of BWL. Compare that to myself where I maintain 1600g on my main even when I'm not actively trying to make money... and had 1400 on my latest alt (until I bought my epic mount this weekend). And there are people who even have way more than I do. It comes down to individuals... not hardcore vs. casual.

[mesonm]

How are you playing "WOW" "BC"?


In the closed beta...

A number of us are playing it.

[KalziEast]

All I was saying is that 60% air speed is NOTHING. If you've already got your Epic Mount, you're already going to be saying "I'd much rather buy a bunch of gold rather than spend something like a month grinding for gold." /wave Gold Seller Sites, congrats, you're going to be getting a bunch of cash coming soon.

[OrC-DarkOrc]

All I was saying is that 60% air speed is NOTHING. If you've already got your Epic Mount, you're already going to be saying "I'd much rather buy a bunch of gold rather than spend something like a month grinding for gold." /wave Gold Seller Sites, congrats, you're going to be getting a bunch of cash coming soon.

I'd rather play the game I pay for... not pay more to play the game that I pay for.. Maybe that's just me?

[mcguigan97]

I don't see how you guys can actually say "Oh, it's easy to get 5K gold in the expansion." when it looks like none of you are in it. Mobs dropping 70s is fine and dandy, but this is supposed to be casual gamer friendly.

I think you misunderstand what is meant by casual friendly. Casual friendly does not mean "easy", or that you can get anything you want in a few hours. Casual friendly means that with the same amount of time invested in the game, the casual player can get something as valuable as someone who is playing 40+ hours a week. You'll just get it over more "real" days, but the same amount of playing time.

PvP as it is today is not casual friendly because there is no way to get rewards with out a huge investment each week. If it takes 1000 hours to get to rank 10, you cannot do an hour a day for 1000 days to get there. It has to be bunched in long weeks. That requires a hard-core player.

Using tokens as PvP rewards is casual friendly. It still requires a 1000 hours, but you can do it in bits and pieces, by yourself.

I'm a casual player; I just dinged 60 on my main after two years of playing. I did not expect to reach 60 as fast as someone playing 40+ hours per week, but I've spent about the same amount of in-game time as they have. I got to the same level, but in my own time and own way. That's casual friendly. And the epic casual mounts, since they are gold based, are casual friendly.

Nogh

[rgirty]

wow, another KE drama thread?

[Amoa]

Movie of FLying mount Plz! :D

[frazil]

I'm a casual gamer , i raid when i get a chance invite , but the gold does come in , if i see a shiney i want on the ah , that i know i have no chance of getting otherwise i grind for it , like my epic mount.
with the reports of gold droping bigtime that will be a benefit, repair bills go up reagents, food etc go up.
the 60% speed, is it straight line distance? if so that is reasonable. imagine flying straight line from LHC to BB all along the coastline it wouldnt take as long as the taxi's do now. quit the boohooing over 60% until its BC goes gold it's subject to change, and even then the patch monster can tweak it.

[Valas Azuviir]

Oops, sorry, Valas. My browser blocks all ads so I didn't even know.

Eh.. Stuff happens. Just be a wee bit more careful next time. Stick it in IE or something for a quick check. Saves us Moderators some work. :grin:

[KalziEast]

"quit the boohooing over 60% until its BC goes gold it's subject to change" Doubtfully. I bet the MAXIMUM it'll go to is 80%, that's definately better, but don't you think that something should fly faster than it runs? =P Never seen a bird or anything run, but that's probably only because they can fly and they don't want to run. You don't see them with big bulky legs purely because of that.

[Valas Azuviir]

I bet the MAXIMUM it'll go to is 80%, that's definately better, but don't you think that something should fly faster than it runs? =P Never seen a bird or anything run, but that's probably only because they can fly and they don't want to run. You don't see them with big bulky legs purely because of that.

That's actually an evolutionary issue. IIRC, The birds that can run really fast tend to be flightless, the ones that can't, tend to fly. Has to do with emphasis on differing muscle growth. Having both, not being enviromentally necessary and thus an evolutionary dead end. Because they cannot compete as well with their specialized counterparts, due to the higher energy (joule) cost involved in their being adapt at both, in addition to weight/flight/optimum land speed ratio's.

Think Ostrich, and Kingfisher as the two extremes on each side and you'll get a slightly better picture of what I'm trying to say.

[MadVlad]

Oh yeah?? How about those Joust (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joust_(arcade_game)) mounts then, huh?

Evolutionarily explain *that*, Darwin! (*sits back, puffing on pipe*)

[Jainzar]

Moving back to the topic..

just a question about tracking (herbs, mining, etc) from the air.. does the height you are flying at affect what is picked up by the tracker? or does height not matter and it still only shows what is trackable within the given x,y radius?

[KalziEast]

Valas, didn't know you were Godless. Not really THAT surprising, but still. It's not by any means well known, but Darwin said himself that he was just trying to make the Catholic and Christian churces mad.

[Big Guns]

It is a design issue actually...

[Xafour]

You guys did notice that when flying on a Gryhon or Wyvern in normal WoW, certain things don't load in time and you don't see em as you fly by.

If your flying mounts fly very very fast then my guess is you'll eventually be flying in nothingness due to loading. (Especially people with crappy PC's)

[Valas Azuviir]

You guys did notice that when flying on a Gryhon or Wyvern in normal WoW, certain things don't load in time and you don't see em as you fly by.

If your flying mounts fly very very fast then my guess is you'll eventually be flying in nothingness due to loading. (Especially people with crappy PC's)

That has to do with how regular Azeroth is designed, hence why we cannot use personal flying mounts there. Outland has been especially designed with flying mounts in mind.

Oh yeah?? How about those Joust (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joust_(arcade_game)) mounts then, huh?

Evolutionarily explain *that*, Darwin! (*sits back, puffing on pipe*)

Computer game featuring a mythological creature aka the Roc. What's there to explain? It would be like trying to explain how Dragons fly in reality, which is a non-relevant question considering Dragons are not real.

Valas, didn't know you were Godless. Not really THAT surprising, but still. It's not by any means well known, but Darwin said himself that he was just trying to make the Catholic and Christian churces mad.

A) Evolution and belief in the Divine need not be mutually exclusive, they can be depending upon your exact philosophical pov, but it's not a requirement. And I'm not talking Intelligent Design either.

B) Guess, this means you also don't make use of any form of modern medicine beyond ye old leeches and bloodletting then. Everything else is based upon the underlying principles of biochemistry, anatomy, evolution, molecular biology, biophysics, genetics, physiology, pathology, psychology and a whole range of other fields.

Then again, I do believe we're straying from the topic at hand, so it's best to end this conversation here.

[KalziEast]

Of course we have to end the conversation there after you get your lie into everyones heads =). Anyway, I really hope that the time flies by so that we can get BC...

[mordesta]

60% run 60% air is rediculous... 100% run 280% air is also rediculous... I think normal should be 80,120, and the epic should be 120,320, or even keep it a teeny bit lower. 60% movement speed in the air is like walking on the ground. It'd just be easier to take a flight path, then take your epic mount to the place.

Am i missing something here, or are you guys.

You realise the figures are "increase" on normal speed, not the total speed.

IE: Normal Flying: 160% run, 160% air TOTAL, and the same for the epic flying mount, 100% normal speed PLUS the % figures mentioned. Keepingin mind as well thats there nothing saying the speeds wont be changed / tweaked by blizz before release, it is only just been put in.

Pls excuse me if im pointing out the obvious, but i got the impression from some of the posts that some ppl seemed to have missed that point. Not picking on you btw KalziEast, just quoted your post as example.

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AND to all the ppl complaining about the speeds:

Its like this, Epic Ground Mount will get you 200% speed on land, but it CANT fly! Regular Flying Mount may only be 160% speed flying AND on land, but the point is it can FLY!! OK STFU Mord, your pointing out the obvious again. Hold on a sec though, anyone remember that it has been stated that in TBC certain areas will ONLY be accessible by flying mount. Oh yeh, good point.

If you want be faster on the ground in Outland while everyone else is flying above you, wheeling freely through the skies, then go for it, its your character, do what you want and stop complaining. OR, go get yourself an epic flying mount and pawn everyone. The 5000g shocked me at first too, but taking into account the more money you'll get from mobs, raids, quests, crafting, selling boe blues, etc... you'll get in TBC, it isn't really that hard. Stop whining so much about its not fair, its not designed so that every player can get one, thats why its the EPIC flying mount. And if you play regularly enough as so many of us do, you'll get it sooner or later, its all a matter of what you spend your money on. After 1 year of playing my druid i still dont have epic ground mount, but thats because Ive chose to spend on gear & enchants, etc... along the way (and also because my craft is tribal lw, lol).

Personally, ill be happy with FLying Form till i can be bothered to save up the money for even the regular mount. :P

NOTE: Excessive Sarcasm intended as humor, pls dont take it personally or be offended by it, its 7am here atm and ive been up all night, and I cant play WoW as ive just moved house and have no net and suffering withdrawals (j/ks', lol)! Thats my excuse anyway and im sticking with it :P *The voices are calling, calling to me.....*

[KalziEast]

mord: I know it's +60% increase =). Lol.

[Freet]

KalziEast,

You really do need to remember that flaming on these boards is a banning offense. And, even if you are not able to control your urges, it's just plain foolish to attack a mod.

Valas,

I commend you on the patience you have shown with this guy. Maybe when he grows up he will appreciate your efforts also.

[Lalaust]

What about PvP Rewards? Will there be any sort of Flying PvP Mount? As we see now on the ground?

I know that there is alot of new BG areas in Outland, where the flying mounts are only usable.

[Zaratustra]

btw, can u attackm or be attacked on a flying mount? or cast smth? or does it workl like now--ui have to dismount first?

[Naolin]

so anyone fell to their deaths from their mount yet?

[Krollin]

so anyone fell to their deaths from their mount yet?
I think Osiris posted about this, I am assuming that you can dismount at any time and as Dismount is instant, therefore uninterruptable, there will be amusing incidences of people getting off their birds by accident.

[Eastwood1427]

What about PvP Rewards? Will there be any sort of Flying PvP Mount? As we see now on the ground?

Sort of. Everyone remember the Armoured Nethedrake? You can own one. The hard bit? You need to be on the top team at the end of an Arena "season". Everyone on the team gets one.

No news on the regular Netherdrake.

[Lalaust]

Sort of. Everyone remember the Armoured Nethedrake? You can own one. The hard bit? You need to be on the top team at the end of an Arena "season". Everyone on the team gets one.

No news on the regular Netherdrake.

Will they then keep it? Or do they have to stay at first place the following season?

[Eastwood1427]

...They keep it. I don't see why they'd lose it. o_O

Does bring up further questions, though.

Personally, I think it'll go like this...

Gryphon/Manticore - Purchased
Swift Gryphon/Swift Manticore - Purchased
Netherdrake - Reputation grind, akin to the Winterspring Frostsaber
Phoenix - Rare drop from Tempest Keep, possibly off of Kael'thas, akin to the Barons Deathcharger from Stratholme
Armoured Netherdrake - Arena PvP Reward

[MasterDinadan]

What's the big deal about the normal flying mount not being fast enough? Thousands of level 60 players (myself included) are getting by just fine on a normal ground mount, which is the same speed as a normal flying mount. Also, Outlands is smaller than either of the continents, so it isn't as if we're going to have to travel extremely long distances. The epic mount will save time traveling, but I doubt that so much time is going to be spent traveling that you will need to worry about it. Remember, most of your traveling will be done while you are leveling and don't have a flying mount anyway. Once you hit the highest level, you'll probably just be doing dungeons and such and you won't have to travel much, especially with the meeting stone summon.
So is it really important to have a fast mount? You can get the normal flying mount to access areas that you can't get to by land, and that will be that. When you go to those areas it may take you slightly longer than it would take a player with an epic, but it's not a big deal...

[Katistin]

Outland is smaller, but not that much smaller. What I wanna know is if it will be possible to fall off outland, cause if you look at the maps, theres connections between the islands or whatever they're called. What would be even cooler is if there was less gravity so you could jump alot higher.

[Rowscarde]

mid air battle possible?.. heres a thought.. since its proven viable to dismount mid-air; it would only make sense to be able to (re)mount mid-air. With the time in between dismounting and remounting, couldnt one lets say cast a spell too? How bout this , fly with the opposite factoin to max height, dismount and battle it out while in free fall... sounds too much like "Terminal Velocity" o be true but was has Blizzard done about this scenario possibility?

[Athest]

Bit off topic here, but it seems locks and pallies are getting screwed. I mean we don't have to get the other riding cost, now we have to get all of em?

Btw i'm not a beta tester, so don't hold anything i say to truth, this is more just an observation off the info i've seen.

[meikyo]

Bit off topic here, but it seems locks and pallies are getting screwed. I mean we don't have to get the other riding cost, now we have to get all of em?

Btw i'm not a beta tester, so don't hold anything i say to truth, this is more just an observation off the info i've seen.

Don't see how you're getting "screwed" considering you guys didn't pay as much as non pallies and locks(some managed to it seems...). I have some pally and lock friends that bought their 8g AV ram(limited time only!) and recently received their rank 11 Tiger, so I'm pretty sure as long as you have "earned" your epic mount, you're also thrown the 150 skill for free... spoiled much?

I really hope they don't make class specific quest mounts in BC.

I don't care if a flying mount moved at 10% speed, IT CAN FLY, I cant :/

[Oatmealsmurf]

Locks and Pallies automatically are credited with journeyman riding once they complete their mount quest. And please stop crying about locks and pallies getting free mounts. The quest lines are more trouble than gold you save. Getting my epic mount for my mage was easier... It just comes down to what you want to do with your time.

[meikyo]

Locks and Pallies automatically are credited with journeyman riding once they complete their mount quest. And please stop crying about locks and pallies getting free mounts. The quest lines are more trouble than gold you save. Getting my epic mount for my mage was easier... It just comes down to what you want to do with your time.

Who's crying? Hmmm, a week of questing or 2 months of farming...I...DONT...KNOW. Giving everyone seperate quests wouldn't work considering people would complain about this classes quest being harder than the others and so on.

Anyway, are there any areas where you automatically dismount besides touching the ground(does this automatically disount you?). Also, can you be dismounted in the same fashion as when you're being attacked on your ground mount?

[rgirty]

Hmmm, a week of questing or 2 months of farming...I...DONT...KNOW.

Epic mount + training max price= 1k gold.

2 months of farming a generous 60 days.

1000/60= 16.7 gold per day. If you play an average of 2 hours per day (thats fairly casual) that is 8.35 gold farmed per hour. If you cannot farm more than 8.35 gold per hour you have a problem.

Just about any level 60 should be able to farm 15gold per hour even if you are a holy spec healbot priest. If you honestly spend 2 hours a day farming you should make at least 30+g per day giving you the $ for the epic mount in a month or less time.

If the same person who can do the entire quest chain for either class mount can get it done in 1 weeks time they should be able to farm much more than 8.35 gold per hour.

Also about the 5k price for epic flying mounts. There is an easy way to save this money so that it will be available to you by the time you hit 70. Don't buy anything. Just repair your gear and save the rest. In the time it takes you to go from 60-70 you will likely be close to the money you need.

Saving up gold for an epic mount at 60 isn't tough either, you just have to start early, like level 10 and not get to level 59 and say ZOMG I NEED an epic mount cash right now! Likewise, don't wait until your 69 then realize you need 5k gold.

[Telcan]

Not to mention the as with the pally epic mount quest, you STILL have to pay about 500 gold and THEN u have to do the quests, so it isnt as easy as u think it is.

[Contemn]

Is the normal flying mount attainable at level 60? Or is it like the ratio of the 20 level spread (40-60) between normal and epic ground mounts like-say a level 64 req?