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perfectbody
23-11-2006, 11:37 AM
hi all. i know the general reply im going to get with regards to a lvl 19 twink priest (1,not good!! 2,will get 2 shotted by a rogue!! 3,no good toys yet!! etc) however anyone who is in to twinking and has seen a properly twinked priest will know that 1, they are extremely good at either carrying the flag as they have bubble and HOT and can fear!!(anoying as hell) or at holding the midfield as they can put there DOT on all that are feared and keep using there 29.0 dps wand to own non twinks!! 2,they are impossible to 2 shot (500 ambush crit and 300 sinsterstrike crit with firey weapon on both = 900 damage so even with my personal best crits at 19 this is imposible as priests can have 1.3k hp)
3, no propper toys yet hmm... yes i would agree here but neither do any of the other classes (i no i have a uber twink rogue exhalted and there is no stunlock available!!! all the replies i may get are thus covered by myself
i would just simply like to know the build of an ALIANCE lvl 19 twink priest as all i can find is horde builds (i no alot of same gear but i want exacts)
any info on enchants to chest and bracers would also be apreciated (iv got the rest sorted in my head) cheers for reading this and i will await your replies TY!!!
perfectbody lvl 19 twink rogue runetotem server (GM of canttouch)
ps. The exhalted tabbard looks AWSOME!!!!!!!
peaceoutnz
06-12-2006, 01:13 AM
Bare with me here for a second and I'll get to what you want to know. This largely depends on what you want to do with your twink.....heal? Hell yes. Group dps? I've topped kill charts next to other twinks wanding and SW:P with my priest. But never a fully DECKED twink. The twinks that drop 300g are beatable on charts with a priest. The ones that drop a 1000g aren't.
So don't roll one with the thought of being a dps machine. You'll be a healer. And with the next next patch comming out bgs will give you a "gear and enchant" rating of sorts and match you with equal opponents (ie: other twinks) you'll get very few kills.
Now, if you truly still have wistful fantasies of being a dps machine 19 priest I HIGHLY recommend you roll an undead priest. I say this from experience....I have 3 twinks in the 10-19 bracket. A semi-twinked war, and a fully twinked (into the 1000s of g) rogue and priest. My rogue chews through alliance priests....I don't say this to brag....it isn't just me but all rogues. One word, WoTF. I'm sword and I SS crit for 250 (agi enchants not fiery) and have a high crit chance...your shields, HoT and a potion will keep you alive for maybe 1.5x as long as it would take me to kill a twink warlock or mage that was failing to kite or fear me.
Average fight against a priest = sap....wait for shield to drop.....begin spamming SS and auto-attacking....hit Slice and Dice....SS again....kick any heals....somewhere in here the priest will hit their scream....usually as soon as you break sap....I'm always waiting for it with a finger over my WoTF bind. Most priests don't even get out of my range before I break it. I don't require a stunlock to beat you. If sprint is up a priests attempts to beat any rogue are even more laughable, if not impossible. Your rogue is either poorly geared or you can't play it. Same story with a hunter. Concussive you to keep you at range and you'll never get your fear off. You'll get kited to death. If you try to outdps him, you will fail, and he will interrupt your heals. Non-twinks you will tear to death as effectively (if not more effectively) than twinks - but their numbers are dwindling.
I've never had a priest (that doesn't flat out run) survive to throw up more than 2 shields and that many HoTs. On my priest I can usually take an alliance rogue that isn't quick to trinket (almost all of them sadly) provided they have under 1100ish hp. If they're quick to trinket, its over. If they are heavily twinked or gouge me and bandage.....or use a pot, I lose. Simple. Unavoidable. Sticking in a group is the only way to get HKs. You'll never solo other twinks. And you'll NEVER EVER flag run. One hunter, druid, or rogue with sprint up and you lose.
PS: The reason I geared most of that towards rogues is because these days the average game I play contains 3-5 twink rogues. Seriously.
The answer? Heal or roll a horde priest. If you want to heal I'd probably recommend a druid....rooting owns rogues at level 19.
Still determined? Go to http://**********.net and search for 19/priest/rank 3/main OR PvP
That'll give you an idea. Good luck but I think you'll be disapointed unless you work as a healer with a solid team.
For build go 5/5 Imp Wand and then 5/5 Imp Blackout OR 2/2 into 70% to prevent heal interrupt and 3/5 Imp Blackout. I'd recommend the later but if you won't heal...which it sounds like you wont....5/5 BO.
-Slashdance/Rearisen
3, no propper toys yet hmm... yes i would agree here but neither do any of the other classes (i no i have a uber twink rogue exhalted and there is no stunlock available!!! all the replies i may get are thus covered by myself
Engineering provides toys......
all the replies i may get are thus covered by myself
That right?
Also if you're going to be an "uber 1337 LOLZ DPS machinez" do us a favor and max out on +stamina enchants. You'll be harder to take down and therefore more likely to provide a longer distraction. If you plan on healing don't put your hp past 1000 and max out mana IMO. +int to weapon.
Sorry if I seem slightly ill tempered but heed my advice and you'll save yourself some gold. You're horribly misinformed.
perfectbody
07-12-2006, 11:14 AM
thankyou for your reply m8!
i dont know were you got your idea that i wil not heal! as that will be the only thing i do, stand at the back of my guilds premade and shield our warriors and heal our rogues (the clothies can dps then die for me) and the enchants "(i have the reat sorted out in my head)" were pretty much all +stamina i just wondered if + healing to chest and bracers was better than +stamina.
my guild is starting to get bored with winning every single match we go in as there is no competition at all. were having to go in solo or as a 2/3 to get close to a competitive match. (we use teamspeak and they have all been trained well in the art of getting our flag back to our base asap, as this wins games) were not the only twinks within our x-relm but the other twinks just dont seem to be able to play as a team.
were currently in the process of trying to get competitive within wsg again and i am organising guild vs guild WSG's and we seem to have the problem that we only have 2 lvl 19 priests in a guild of 60 twinks (we cap our rogue and warrior intake to keep us reveered within our server, that said we accept fully twinked people) and thus we rely on dps and teamwork to kill enemy teams with healers themselves. we have 1/0 priests in premades due to them not being online so i thought i would just make a priest for the guild as an alternative character (we always have excess rogues ready to fill gaps in premades) and so a priest would just help/be a fun alternative to an already maxed out rogue (exhalted and all)
so cheers for the talent advice and the enchant advice. helped me!
my priest is now lvl 17 with all but the wand that i think requires lvl 18 to get the quest. enchants are + stamina to everything including feet, and 100hp librams to helm and legs with fising hat on the first go in STV lol + healing on chest though as the 100hp is neglegable compared to 1 heal with 55 healing.
with fear and my guild to protect me (a mage to frost nova helps) i have not yet died when with 5 or more in a group. yey hehe.
ghazghull
07-12-2006, 01:23 PM
If you're determined to go Alli roll a human. God knows Alli need help in WSG...
perfectbody
07-12-2006, 03:01 PM
ali dont need help not on my x-relm or my server before x-relm (hint:aliance on my x-relm pawn ass) and thats due to teamwork and developed skils as well as the best equipment. fine, on other x-relms horde win but join up in runetotem's x-relm and you will not lose often at all.
Findariel
08-12-2006, 02:41 AM
The exhalted tabbard looks AWSOME!!!!!!!
Anyone has a screenie of it? What colours? :)
perfectbody
08-12-2006, 01:02 PM
no screenie but il get my avatar on my guilds website as a pic of me wearing it so you can see it , wil post the site when the pic is up.
light purple and bluish (hard to discribe the colours)
Galactor
24-04-2007, 05:15 AM
http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/#character-sheet.xml?r=Area+52&n=Galactor
Kooran
24-04-2007, 09:05 AM
Im sorry galactor, thats not a twink thats just a normal character, that happens to have a couple of blues and lowbie enchants.
Kraighan
24-04-2007, 03:26 PM
Yea ur right. But i Enjoy making non twinks. This is going to be the new thing when this so called new patch comes out. ( the one that rates you gear and enchants) Now why spend all the gold on boe blues and enchants when u can jus level a char to 19 and try to equip yourself with the most blues possible. Maybe add on a few low level enchants and hopefully you wont get grouped with full out twinked players.
i'd like to hear everyones feedback. i think this is a good alternative for the casual player that doesnt have hundreds of gold to spend on their twink.
and id like to know if the rumour about this patch is true?
Stigg
24-04-2007, 03:32 PM
Kra - because that is not the point of twinking. Tag that along with the idea that it is nearly impossible to match players in a BG....adn blizz has even stated that it won't work out as well at lower levels.
But back to the point. A majority of twinks are in it for a challenge.....facing off against the best players around. When this nerf patch comes, twinks are still going to be as active, they are still going to be spending immense amounts of gold, and there will only be a mild change for a majority of the classes.
And yes, it is true.
back on topic. A well geared priest is the hardest player to whittle down. I have been in a 1 v 1 fight with a twink priest resulting in a 7 minute fight and me at 2% health. Play them correctly, get the best gear, and you will fly.
lastly...holy thread resurection batman!
all the true twinks are loving the gear matching.
i know my guild is eagerly awating the chance to face the best competition and once again show that we pwn all.
Kraighan
24-04-2007, 03:47 PM
i Understand what the real Twinks points of veiw are. But im jus excited because i can now have a lvl 19 non twinked alt. (obv. a different class then my main) that i can play on once and awhile to have a bit of a change. With the new patch this makes it possible and doesnt take anything away from Twinks as they will be able to face off against other twinked out chars or guilds. I agree with you it is very good for the twink community but it is also good for the casual gamer that wants to have a twink per say ( as a char that he will only pvp with and not level up ) but not a real Twink becasue they dont have the gold to spend lol
Stigg
24-04-2007, 03:55 PM
/agree and I hope it does work out that way. Im really doubtful fo their "gear matching" system though.
Kraighan
24-04-2007, 03:58 PM
Yea im sure it wont work perfectly but hopefully it can separate them enough. It does seem like a hard task to develope.
if you are sporting all the best gear with moderate enchants.......i am guessing you will be matched with twinks more often than with non-twinks.
If you are trying to find some point in which you can have above average gear against mostly non-twinks competition, then I doubt you can have any blue items equipped.
And this isn't even considering the "twinks" that will be gearing down while qued up and then switching gear after the battle starts.
Kraighan
24-04-2007, 04:12 PM
Yea i never thought of that. good call Owlx. Well im jus wondering if they are dividing the bg's into only two groups or maybe three. I'm guessing only two and in that case i will probably get matched with twinks ur right. but also most 19s have some blues, i mean i wont have all blues because im starting on a new server so gold will be hard to find for Boe's
I'm guessing they will calculate bg kills, or they will have to include items in your backpack and bags.
If they did that it might be more fair, but, I'm sure people could put in crappy items to give a false average.
Unfortuantely some people are just going to try and exploit whatever they can.
Kraighan
24-04-2007, 04:26 PM
I'm Hoping that most Twinks think the way u guys do and want to play against the best around. If they dont exploit it then this could be good but if they do you will have the same kinda of Twink on Non twink stuff you have now, Which isnt that bad i still have fun getting owned by twinks.
degnar
24-04-2007, 05:45 PM
I'm curious how the matching will work out. Could be spotty at lower levels... or maybe it will work, if there is a large pool of players at lower levels.
No matter how they do it, there will have to be an inventory check. Plus an automatic cancel from the BG if you open the bank, trade, AH, etc... You should enter the BG with whatever you are wearing, plus your inventory, and nothing else.
@Stigg: Do you know how the good priests you faced were geared and specced? I'm very curious how a priest can do so well against a good twink.
I'm pretty sure our guild's priests are speced for healing support and geared the same.
For a time I know that our best helaing priest respeced 5/5 wand and 5/5 blackout and was rocking the shadow damage gear, but, i'm pretty sure he's back to healing..
Name is Pulchritude on Darkspear.
I haven't seen him in awhile, but, that might help ya.
Stigg
24-04-2007, 06:12 PM
@Stigg: Do you know how the good priests you faced were geared and specced? I'm very curious how a priest can do so well against a good twink.
Mcderby:
http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/?#character-sheet.xml?r=Wildhammer&n=Mcderby
I dont know why he isn't wearing his fishing hat....
http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Kalecgos&n=Schlee#character-sheet.xml?r=Kalecgos&n=Schlee
These two priests were the bain of my existance. If it was a 2v1 with either of them, the fight was over for me....unless I could sap them. I still vividly remember a 1 on 1 with Schlee. I was on my lunch break, the score was 2v2, and he had the flag. I found him, and starting going to town on him. Unfortunatly, I had just finished a fight with a rogue when he DoT'ed me up, so I was stuck wearing my dodge gear. Between his mana pots, both our AGMs, and some crazy Runecloth Bandages, the fight wasn't over after 11 minutes, at which point I HAD to leave to get back to work. I /bowed, /saluted, then left the keyboard.
As said, a well geared and well played priest is incredibly difficult...especially if you can't start off with the surprise attack.
degnar
24-04-2007, 07:44 PM
Interesting. So get the good gear with +sta, +int and +spi, then pump it up with +healing enchants (along with a few others).
So... the basic strategy is to outlast anyone they come up against, right? They just keep healing themselves a lot (with huge heals), then pop a mana potion, and start over. And thus healing focus is very important... avoid the interrupts to healing. Then throw in SW:P and a few other spells and/or wand to gradually wear down the opponent?
Probably doesn't work so well if they do get surprised, but everyone has a tough time then.
Pretty cool. Hadn't thought about this as a lvl 19 priest, but it makes sense. I tend to think of priests as soft, squishy, one-shot kills... but you make up for the (relative) lack of health & armor with lots of healing.
Plus having healers like this would be awesome for everyone else. :thumbsup:
P.S. Sounds like that was an great fight!
Stigg
24-04-2007, 07:55 PM
Yep. He kept me dotted the entire time, which made timing my gouge so I could bandage a real pain. Other than that, the only spell he cast was his fear...then he just wanded....which over time, really really added up. With the amount of +healing he had, his mana conservation was ridiculous, and he could keep up with my onslaught of damage with a renew, shield, and relatively few actual healing spells. Of course, if I had another player with me, it would have been a quick loss for him, or if I had my correct gear on I would most likely have taken him down...but it still would have been a long fight.
Altaris
24-04-2007, 08:16 PM
Yep. He kept me dotted the entire time, which made timing my gouge so I could bandage a real pain. Other than that, the only spell he cast was his fear...then he just wanded....which over time, really really added up. With the amount of +healing he had, his mana conservation was ridiculous, and he could keep up with my onslaught of damage with a renew, shield, and relatively few actual healing spells. Of course, if I had another player with me, it would have been a quick loss for him, or if I had my correct gear on I would most likely have taken him down...but it still would have been a long fight.
How was he able to wand consistently? Didn't you just walk through him to break LOS?
Stigg
24-04-2007, 08:21 PM
Haha, I did everythig to break LOS. We were on the ramp up to the roof, and I even went so far as running into the main hall in an attempt to get OOC so I could switch gear. Unfortunatly, that bugger followed me everywhere I went. But yes, his wanding sure was not continuous. But continuos enough to lower my health subsantially.
degnar
24-04-2007, 08:24 PM
Haha, I did everythig to break LOS. We were on the ramp up to the roof, and I even went so far as running into the main hall in an attempt to get OOC so I could switch gear. Unfortunatly, that bugger followed me everywhere I went. But yes, his wanding sure was not continuous. But continuos enough to lower my health subsantially.
lol. I'm just imagining the sight of a priest chasing a rogue! :laugh:
Cosmox
24-04-2007, 08:28 PM
perfect body. ur idea seems nice, but at 19 i suggest support over raw healing. druids pwn at healing. and bubble fear is awsome
ps: im in ur x-realm on Draka im Mazx 19 human rogue hope 2 see u around
Xmcdaniel
24-04-2007, 10:50 PM
I have the "Staff of the Friar" in the bank for whenever I want to develop my 19 Priest twink (he's level 12 and on ice as we speak while I enjoy outland).
It's a BOE rare drop from BFD so you can farm for it if you want it. I haven't seen better priest staffs than that at that level.
Anyone know how much I should be selling that thing for if I decide not to twink a 19 priest? I kind of have a hankering to do 10-19 WSG because of the hilarity of the names and actions of the twinks there. I always had a lot of fun even though my mage wasn't twinked. It's kind of fun even if you are getting 1 or 2 shotted.
@Stigg: who is the Katie C. that you quote daily? Pretty funny stuff!
semisonic9
24-04-2007, 10:53 PM
The only "twink" priests I've seen do well in the 19 and 29 brackets were healers who would toss out a SW:P from time to time and maybe wand, but that's about it. I came close to twinking mine at 39 and 49 shadow specced, it was pretty fun.
Their strength at the lower levels is all about switch-hitting. Any +healing gear they find is likely to be +healing/damage, so they have decent SW:P and possible Devouring Plague.
The good ones usually roll with twink guilds, and their purpose is to help the damage dealers red-line, usually sticking slightly behind a rogue or hunter, and pitch in DPS when it's safe. Sometimes they play "bait" for multiple rogue twinks. They'll help flag runners with the fear-bombs, etc.
It's all in good fun, but if you want to damage at that level I'd use something else. At 49, on the other hand, SPs can be pretty sick. If you want to heal, at that level, I'd probably go Paladin (well, depending on how much of this patches nerfs stick, but, still, probably Paladin)
~Semi
xDarkDrifterx
25-04-2007, 05:51 PM
On the BG topic - Just wondering what's going to stop ppl from just wearing regular items you buy from a vendor (no +stats) and switching out once they're in the BG? It would have to be one heck of a new system to be real time updated constantly while in any BG.
:ponder:
Nitsujcm
25-04-2007, 06:08 PM
From what I have seen, apparently it goes off of what you were wearing in your last BG.
Caderbery
08-10-2008, 02:12 PM
lol. I have one question tho... What's a good twink priest wand? My guild won't let me use Skycaller: *Link removed* . should i be able to? :cry:
/reported
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prion
09-10-2008, 06:53 AM
why did you bother to report something from last year?
also does anyone know anything about this program that supposedly scans your gear and decides to put you in an appropriate BG? I'm pretty sure i've been put up against twinks and I have mediocre-lame gear usually.
If that no longer exists then this entire thread is outdated information and should be locked IMO
corga
13-10-2008, 02:35 AM
Why did you guys rez this very dead thread. It was fine as it was.
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