Salary for progression

[deamian]

Alright, I know Blizzard is going to say (if they read this) omg you are a genius come work for us plz. But I cannot currently.

What if...for each mob you've progressed through in ZG...You were flagged for the kill, and weekly you would get a mail from (your faction) for 50 silver.

"That's not alot" "waste of time" you say? what if MC was worth 1g a mob...and BWL was worth 1.5g a mob, AQ 20 AQ 40 NAxxxxx so on so forth..

Maybe you could earn yourself a nice faction salary of like 50 gold pieces a week, for you and your guilds hard work. Potions, and repair bills would be alot easier on the pocket. Planets would align, dogs and cats loving eachother, and *gasp* people still doing old world content..

Please critique critisize and post changes or suggestions at will.


Deamian

[Icekiss]

I'd love to see that, but I think Blizz made money making so difficult intentionaly. And that would make it too easy. They probably will never implement something like this :sad:

[Trepidation]

The farmers will go where the gold is...period. If they can make a boat load for killing trash in MC...you bet your bottom dollar they will.

[Loriel]

I'd love to see that, but I think Blizz made money making so difficult intentionaly.And the reason for this is to keep inflation under control. Earning money from trash mobs is a nice idea, but ultimately it would cause inflation and give the gold farmers yet another venue to earn their ill-gotten funds. Trash mobs respawn, so they could be farmed in force and in large numbers = bad idea.

So no, I don't think this will happen. Earning gold through quests is a lot more likely, ref what is happening with the new BC quests.

[mesonm]

Alright, I know Blizzard is going to say (if they read this) omg you are a genius come work for us plz. But I cannot currently.

What if...for each mob you've progressed through in ZG...You were flagged for the kill, and weekly you would get a mail from (your faction) for 50 silver.

"That's not alot" "waste of time" you say? what if MC was worth 1g a mob...and BWL was worth 1.5g a mob, AQ 20 AQ 40 NAxxxxx so on so forth..

Maybe you could earn yourself a nice faction salary of like 50 gold pieces a week, for you and your guilds hard work. Potions, and repair bills would be alot easier on the pocket. Planets would align, dogs and cats loving eachother, and *gasp* people still doing old world content..

Please critique critisize and post changes or suggestions at will.


Deamian

Or...omg...I'm a genius...

Farm living Essence and Essence of Air...for 200g every 90 min.

[deamian]

Sorry Not trash mobs no way, (guild incentive) and using old zones. Very early in am when posted original lol.. BOSSES ONLY

Ok let me clarify real quick *missed the 1hour edit timer again* Each boss you kill.. earns you a bit of money weekly.. if you are able to kill boss 1 (forgot name), 2. magmadar, 3. gehennas, boss 4. Garr you are flagged for 4 bosses worth of progression in Molten core and get 4 gold a week in your mailbox.. make sense?

Again, Not trash mobs.. boss encounters.

There went getting hired for being a genius :P

[Loriel]

Inlation issues aside, I could possibly support something like this for wiping in Naxx, to offset some of the cost of repairs and consumables - but even that is essentially "free money" once lvl 65+ raiders start to farm the place.

Bosses already drop a decent amount of gold, so I'm thinking there is already an incentive in place here. Your aim could be to run MC in 2h30 mins, with no wipes and preferably no deaths. Once on hard farm status, MC is pure profit - each boss drops 3-4g per raid member, which means you could bank 30+ gold from a single MC clear. I'm sorry, but I can't really see why Blizzard should reward you financially any more than they already do through cash drops.

Inflation is a really bad thing in an MMO. The gold farmers aren't helping out in that respect, and putting players on a progression payroll would only make it worse.

[mesonm]

Sorry Not trash mobs no way, (guild incentive) and using old zones. Very early in am when posted original lol.. BOSSES ONLY

Ok let me clarify real quick *missed the 1hour edit timer again* Each boss you kill.. earns you a bit of money weekly.. if you are able to kill boss 1 (forgot name), 2. magmadar, 3. gehennas, boss 4. Garr you are flagged for 4 bosses worth of progression in Molten core and get 4 gold a week in your mailbox.. make sense?

Again, Not trash mobs.. boss encounters.

There went getting hired for being a genius :P

So, get rid of the money they drop, and pay you at the end of the week instead?

Surely you don't think that someone ought to get paid forever, for killing Mag once....do you?

[deamian]

So, get rid of the money they drop, and pay you at the end of the week instead?

Surely you don't think that someone ought to get paid forever, for killing Mag once....do you?


Well I've never been rich due to repair bills.. In fact I'd say I pay out about 14 gold a week in repair alone. So i'd say yes why not. Helps with trying new content.. My guild as it stands now is turned off to AQ 40 because it's just a gold sink for pots and repair.

And I'm really thinking about all the posts about old world is dead etc, even though my stand on that is you should still learn the encounters.

[mesonm]

And I'm really thinking about all the posts about old world is dead etc, even though my stand on that is you should still learn the encounters.

I think the above is different and disconnected from the idea of getting a salary...
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If you add a salary, I could log out for six months and come back rich? Kill everyone in Mc and BWL once, and be set for life?

Definitely would decimate the economy...

[deamian]

And being logged out for six months is fun how? I think you are missing the entire point with pecimism erupting.

For one how would completing bwl and MC then logging out for half a year decimate any aspect of the economy?, you aren't around to buy anything are you? Your wad of .. 120 gold.. oh ya.. you lose mail after 29 days.. so your stash of 20g for 1 month is in your mailbox ruining nothing..

Second, giving smaller guilds.. and larger guilds actually, some incentive to conquer content they may be just skipping or deciding not to do so they can split up into 5mans when Burning crusade comes out is entirely on the same topic as one another.


/edit and this is alot more interesting feedback then I expected!! keep it coming.

[mesonm]

Second, giving smaller guilds.. and larger guilds actually, some incentive to conquer content they may be just skipping or deciding not to do so they can split up into 5mans when Burning crusade comes out is entirely on the same topic as one another.


I think you assume they skip things because of money...If so, they are motivated by the wrong things, or just don't farm at all...It is easy for guilds to get 1000g or more in a matter of weeks, just by selling BOE's.

[deamian]

I think you assume they skip things because of money...If so, they are motivated by the wrong things, or just don't farm at all...It is easy for guilds to get 1000g or more in a matter of weeks, just by selling BOE's.

Easy for Some Guilds not Guilds to get 1000g sure. I think maybe you are in a Naxx or better guild? I'm thinking of the whole community.

Also I've read a hundred posts about BWL, MC, ZG, AQ 20 and 40 etc being left behind.. because equip will be upgraded in Burning crusade first few zones and levels.. I'm sure you've seen those. My suggestion is based on keeping those zones in general an incentive for players.. and I guess players who aren't naxx and beyond.. those guilds can go to BC and live it up, have good times.. but will still have the choice to go back and do that for the progression salary.

[mesonm]

The whole community? Including the guilds that have money through concerted efforts? Or just the 'whole community' that doesn't have gold?

Again, I don't agree that money is the sole reason those guilds don't move forward...

Is that what you believe? That if each of those guilds had some gold (enough to cover pots, but not epics bought from other guilds...) that they would suddenly decide to move to instances they don't do now?

People can say those places will be left behind...Until it happens, there isn't a problem to be solved, is there? And you can't solve it without determining the cause, and that the problem is worth solving and is meant to be solved...

[deamian]

Suggestion.. name of the forum, how about you Mesonm, give a suggestion with some pros and cons:)


/edit my wife and I talked at lunch and she said maybe not each boss but the end boss.. or last 2.. or something, and we're talking about a minimal amount of gold here, covering repair bills.. auction house taking money from sales.. etc.

[bwirum]

Ok, 1 gold pr boss, that would be, what, 10-30 gold pr week, depending on what you've done. How long does it take you to grind up 30 gold? 30 minutes? If that. It's never going to amount to anything, and those who think 30 gold is a lot is not going to get it since their top toon is lvl 28.

[Stigg]

I still think the OP is missing the main point...the bosses DO drop gold...hell a decent amount of gold at that. A complete clear of MC nets what...20-25 gold? A complete clear of BWL nets like 45, and Im sure a complete clear of Naxx yields a TON.

With this new idea in place, you wouldn't have to do anything. Your farming would cease, you could just buy the pots you need off the AH. Blizz has made it so that to advance into end game you NEED to either farm for money or farm for mats. Your choice. They also made it so that the easiest end game instance already gives you a good portion of the mats as soon as you kill afew things (i.e. fire elemental) so that all you need to farm to kill the boss is dreamfoil. Furthermore, if you are in a gguild just starting on MC, you will need to farm for good items anyway, which means Strat, Scholo, UBRS, etc...all of which net about 15g a run plus all the crap you will be selling.

Good idea, but just not practical. Granted, I would LOVE to have that much extra money....Id own every epic in the game by now!

[rottentomato]

well 30g may be a lot for a lvl 28 as their top, i can attest to that being a lvl 28 with a little over 70g on my toon, with at least 10-15g per toon on 4 other toons, but i can see where this would help with instances for endgame where it becomes difficult to go through with a much higher level than you normally would IE lvl 30+ in deadmines... not everyone makes money the same way, so my productiveness with money is good for me, but other 28s have only a few gold...maybe 10-15. i understand level 60s can farm regions for gold and make large amounts in a little amount of time, but for those that dont want to farm the same area for hours and only have 50-60g after their mount, spending 14g is expensive for repairs, and this would help to absorb the cost of doing end game instances to finish their games before BC release

[Michony]

Just a point how many alts will peeps have if they get a salary for killing bosses each week?

peeps will create a toon do MC with him once and log on every wekk to pick up his 10g. Not goin to happen.

[mesonm]

Suggestion.. name of the forum, how about you Mesonm, give a suggestion with some pros and cons:)



heh...I hadn't seen this note until the thread was resurrected...

To answer your question, I have provided many more than a HUNDRED suggestions...and perhaps a few hundred comments and thoughts about BC, but I provide them to blizzard, using a place that is naturally designed to receive them, and hopefully where blizz considers them....

The beta has a nice tool through which users provide those suggestions...