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UndeadRogue
29-11-2006, 11:47 AM
I normally do rather well in PvP,
but recently I started duelling with a friend of mine (a hunter),
to prepare for the coming 2 vs 2 and such in TBC.

We are more or less equally geared (T1/T2).

But in 1vs1 I seldom get the upper hand.
His damn cat eating me... interrupting my casts,
his arrows (or when too close melee) interrupting my casts.
And then the almost idiot crits they can have so they can actually get me down in 5 or 6 shots (or less)... :cry:

Help !

evilwizard
29-11-2006, 01:14 PM
Never played a mage myself but,

Respec cold, find that middle ground where the hunter cannot shot or hit you.

game over.:grin:

perfectbody
30-11-2006, 11:08 AM
as a good mage (frost only) you can take down a non T1/T2 with rank 1 spels only all you need to do is (as posted above) frost nova then polymorph the hunter kil the pet (using max spels not rank 1) then frost nova again (cooldown should be over after kiling pet) use inst cast fireball/arcane explosion and as he comes out of frost nova use your inst cast cone of cold thingy then move backwards using inst cast til frost nova ready and repeat if he ever gets to you use ur (ice block wall thing) and blink away (all within 2 seconds) then repeat again!!!! i dont have a mage i use my mates character when were at eachothers houses and i pvp at IF gates and kil most classes using only rank 1 spells lol (I AM NOT JOKING) keep the NONE MELE/NONE RANGED distance and ur sorted

Diamondlights
30-11-2006, 03:58 PM
sheep/cc the pet

renob boner
01-12-2006, 06:11 AM
kjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjI normally do rather well in PvP,
but recently I started duelling with a friend of mine (a hunter),
to prepare for the coming 2 vs 2 and such in TBC.

We are more or less equally geared (T1/T2).

But in 1vs1 I seldom get the upper hand.
His damn cat eating me... interrupting my casts,
his arrows (or when too close melee) interrupting my casts.
And then the almost idiot crits they can have so they can actually get me down in 5 or 6 shots (or less)... :cry:

Help !

lula
01-12-2006, 03:38 PM
blink to the dead zone of the hunter 7 yards
frost nova the hunter and the pet
sheep the peet
wand the hunter

Narak
01-12-2006, 05:55 PM
Well the answers so far aren't a lot of help. There's no point telling him how to get down a non-tier 1/2 hunter as thats not what he's fighting.

I have 4020hp on my mage and tier 1/2 hunters can just tear through me like butter. Generally by the time I've poly'd the pet I'm down to half hp. Yes, you can try and stay in his deadzone, but a scatter shot will easily give him a chance to move away from the deadzone. If you have iceblock you can mitigate the initial Aimed shot but thats about it. If you can frost nova both of them you stand a bit of a chance as long as your CoC doesn't hit them both. If anyone can give some decent answers, please do, hunters are my nemesis atm.

mesonm
01-12-2006, 06:11 PM
I normally do rather well in PvP,
but recently I started duelling with a friend of mine (a hunter),
to prepare for the coming 2 vs 2 and such in TBC.

We are more or less equally geared (T1/T2).

But in 1vs1 I seldom get the upper hand.
His damn cat eating me... interrupting my casts,
his arrows (or when too close melee) interrupting my casts.
And then the almost idiot crits they can have so they can actually get me down in 5 or 6 shots (or less)... :cry:

Help !

sheep the pet and get inside the range of his arrows, and he is toast...

lula
02-12-2006, 03:25 AM
Well the answers so far aren't a lot of help. There's no point telling him how to get down a non-tier 1/2 hunter as thats not what he's fighting.

I have 4020hp on my mage and tier 1/2 hunters can just tear through me like butter. Generally by the time I've poly'd the pet I'm down to half hp. Yes, you can try and stay in his deadzone, but a scatter shot will easily give him a chance to move away from the deadzone. If you have iceblock you can mitigate the initial Aimed shot but thats about it. If you can frost nova both of them you stand a bit of a chance as long as your CoC doesn't hit them both. If anyone can give some decent answers, please do, hunters are my nemesis atm.

the answers are there already
scatter shot only works for 4 secs
u frost nova lasts 8
u have time to use a polly even if he use scatter shot in u
blink to the deadzone, and nova, he use scatter shoot, when its over use polly
kill the pet if u want
my friend is a mage but i saw he pvp with a lot of hunters and most of them can even down he to 80% hp, the hunters deadzone is he only weakness use it to u favor

Mallstrop
02-12-2006, 03:29 AM
Keep close, as a warlock that's the best way i could find to take on a hunter, keep running up to them as much as you can and stop them shooting you. As soon as I could get close to a hunter they became easy.

Narak
04-12-2006, 10:14 AM
the answers are there already
scatter shot only works for 4 secs
u frost nova lasts 8
u have time to use a polly even if he use scatter shot in u
blink to the deadzone, and nova, he use scatter shoot, when its over use polly
kill the pet if u want
my friend is a mage but i saw he pvp with a lot of hunters and most of them can even down he to 80% hp, the hunters deadzone is he only weakness use it to u favor

I use his dead zone constantly, I won't even attempt to cast a non-instant spell unless I am in his dead zone. I can evoc in his deadzone, I can bandage in his deadzone but for some reason they just pwn the hell out of me as I'm getting to his deadzone.

cabfed
13-12-2006, 08:59 AM
I use his dead zone constantly, I won't even attempt to cast a non-instant spell unless I am in his dead zone. I can evoc in his deadzone, I can bandage in his deadzone but for some reason they just pwn the hell out of me as I'm getting to his deadzone.

Man I know all about that I am a 57 mage, and I can never beat a hunter and I am frost and arcane spec, basically you need to be straight fire and kill him before he kills you, the sheep and kill pet trick isnt great becuz the simple pvp trinket breaks polymorph and if it breaks early while you are killing the pet then you are toast even in the deadzone he can scattershot you and have the pet destroy you. GL man let me know if you find someone secret to the mania.

Dalius
17-12-2006, 06:59 PM
If you are full frost, this is easy. Frost Nova, Cone of Cold, Fire Blast, Cold Snap, Frost Nova, Cone of Cold... Hunter should be dead by then, if not, summon Water Elemental, use his Frost Nova, and just give that last Frostbolt to him and he should be gone. Always keep Ice Barrier up.

Kardus
18-12-2006, 05:03 AM
Poly pet and dead zone seems to be the best strat. The thing is though, you want to be far enough that he can't melee, but close enough so he can't shoot. Also, make sure he almost always has a frost effect on him, that way he can't be crafty and try to run. Also most of them will have on cheetah to try and move about. Fast swords work best to him them with. I've seen my friend literally run circles around hunters while spamming AE, and forcing daze with his weapon. Throw on instant cast spells every few secs and you will be good.

When the hunter is a little under 50%, if you're PoM, switch the sheep to him and immediately pyroblast (so they don't get the healing bonus from sheep).

Enslaver
18-12-2006, 11:42 PM
Dont listen to most of these guys, poly in a battle with a hunter is a waste of time. Here's the secret, First thing, bring out your water elemental if you're spec'd for it. The hunter will first start off laying his trap and walking backwards, you move up about half way where you think he layed it and him and blink past it, if you get stuck in it iceblock out of it. asap, once you are near him frost nova. Try to get his pet too in the frost nova. He will then scattershot you and might even FD ice trap you again. If he does this use your water elementals to frost nova him in place, he will be stuck as long as you are. Once you are out frost nova him again, pop your trinket and nuke him with frostbolt, if he starts to move too far away from you cast some instant cast spells such as fire blast and coc, arcane explosion him dead.

Most the time i only have to use this technique on the most advanced hunters, which is rare to find. I usally just blink to them, frost nova and frostbolt->fireblast them once and they die. Shatter proc ftw.

Raistlin Majere
19-12-2006, 02:02 PM
I went engineering just for the deadzone problem. Now when a mage tries to DZ me, I can ether Scattershot him, or hit him with a grenade.

Sparksey
19-12-2006, 06:30 PM
To everyone saying "Frost Nova" e.t.c.. and get in his dead zone is really not thinking.

I'm Beast Mastery spec, the moment I get stuck in place I hit bestial rath, I automatically get freed then I go about melting your face.

Basically the main way to kill us is to make sure you're spec'd with that element you have, make sure that you reset the element on us when we fd and just keep away from the pet.

Big red pet = death

Oh and choose a good time to iceblock, like when we're low and let your element finish us, otherwise good luck, we're a tough ass class since the patch.

Kardus
20-12-2006, 04:17 AM
Dont listen to most of these guys, poly in a battle with a hunter is a waste of time.

I wouldn't say it's a waste. Don't forget that they have multiple ways to get out of CC/stop your cast. When a hunter is mid-low health, the hunter will actually start making use of their key abilities to lay the smack down (not to mention they can mess up your casting simply with the melee speed, running behind you, around you, etc.). As they don't expect it, you have the upper hand for that moment.

I can see, though, how one would think it's a waste of 'time'. It does not hurt to try new things, though. It's fun.

joejoeirish
25-12-2006, 03:21 PM
I have a mage and a hunter. As a hunter, I generally feel better taking on mages than as a mage taking on a hunter. The key is the dead zone... and to a lesser extent polymorph the pet. If u have both the pet and the hunter DPS on you.... you will die fast. I can't say it will always work, but yes. PoM -polymorph pet----- do whatever to get into dead zone, run blink then frost nova and then unleash your nuke. After that- try to get to the hunters back and use Arcane Expl. if u got enough mana and fire blast when the cooldonw comes out.


As a hunter. if someone tries to fight me range to range.... they will lose. Mages have better DPS... but hunters have DPS plus pet DPS plus better armor.

joejoeirish
25-12-2006, 03:22 PM
I have a mage and a hunter. As a hunter, I generally feel better taking on mages than as a mage taking on a hunter. The key is the dead zone... and to a lesser extent polymorph the pet. If u have both the pet and the hunter DPS on you.... you will die fast. I can't say it will always work, but yes. PoM -polymorph pet----- do whatever to get into dead zone, run blink then frost nova and then unleash your nuke. After that- try to get to the hunters back and use Arcane Expl. if u got enough mana and fire blast when the cooldonw comes out.


As a hunter. if someone tries to fight me range to range.(mage, lock)... they will lose. Mages have better DPS... but hunters have DPS plus pet DPS which interupts casting time spells plus better armor.