Help me pick my new TBC BE class

[syntheticminds]

I have been hesitant to pick my class 100% for TBC when it releases but as the launch date nears, I seem to get more frantic. I think I may be uninformed which is causing me to not be able to choose as well. I am going to be a Blood elf for sure and have narrowed it down to Paladin, Rogue and Mage. I don't really want to be a warlock (though this forum seems to think they are great in TBC, please explain why)

I wanted to be a druid at first but none of the new races can be one so I scratched them.

As far as pally goes, I hear they can tank extremely well but that does not mean they can kill stuff and leveling to 70= killing lots of mobs. Please correct that notion If I am wrong. I have played a pally to mid 20's in the past and they are fun until you have to kill mobs for a quest.

I like the idea of a rogue but I don't like the idea of raid problems. Now I heard that something was going on with 40 man raids in TBC and such but I am extremely unclear with what Is happening, whether they are being removed or w/e. But I hear that PvP is going to be awesome in TBC which is a + for rogues. I just don't wanna be stuck without a group for that raid or instance that I have to enter. (never played a rogue so clear me up if that happens anymore)

As far as mages go, They are kind of the first class I wanted to try in TBC, but I don't want to be one because my friend is a priest and I wanna be a melee class to make a nice combo. I know mage and priest would be nice as well but Eh, I guess I've always played caster classes (Main being a warlock), guess its time for a change.

Shame that BE's can't be warriors, Thats what I wanted to be ever since I saw that picture with the Blood Elf in the Black armor and that huge sword. Guess that wasn't a warrior.

Thanks Alot, Sorry for the long post but I had to get somethings clear before that thing launches.

-syntheticminds

[handsomearny]

Well, first things first: you seem to be confused like hell!

So, class, BloodElf. Good choice.

40-man raids have been removed, with the maximum being 25.

PVP leads to the similarly powerful rewards as PVE dungeons, therefore taking a PVP rogue and not worrying about getting a group for PVE can be done.

Dont take a pally (i dont mean to insult all those awesome Pallies out there) unless you are completly sure you can deal with tediously slow grinding.

A BF mage would have been good too, but you dont want to be one.

Therfore, after my Sherlock-like-deduction, you should play a Rogue.

P.S- If you are more PVE oriented and want to be helpful with melee, then the other logical choice would be a hunter.

[DarthMuffin]

Mage/Priest combo is actually very good. AoE grind while the priest heals you. Now, if you don't want to play a caster again, I wonder why you included mage in your 3-class list in the first place :shocked:

I personally settled on casters within the first month of the game. Tried others of course, but casters are really my bag. I'm rolling a new mage in BC despite the fact that I already have a 60 one.

Between the other two classes, I would have to suggest paladin because they will most likely be in very high demand on the horde side. So if you can whip out a good paly soon enough, many people will love you. And I haven't followed the paly progression in BC, but I heard they were actually better tanks and damage dealers than in vanialla WoW. Could be wrong about that though.

[Farq]

yeah, pallies look to be better tanks cause of all the nerfing done to warriors :P
just remember, being the newest class to the horde, pallies will be very overpopulated

just in response to handsome up there, 40 man dungeons are NOT being removed, but there will be no new 40 man dungeons in Outland.
Places like MC, BWL and Naxx will still exist (and I am sure they will still be run, if not for loot, just for the progression of raiding guilds) and you can still get gear from there once you near 60 so that when you actually hit 60, you can get some decent set bonuses to head to Outland with.

[syntheticminds]

I included Mage because it was going to be my crutch. If I couldn't choose between Rogue or Paladin I would play a mage because I am use to casters.

I am still leaning towards rogues because I believe that Paladins will be over populated. The number of GOOD paladins will be small and I WOULDN'T MIND TRYING TO BECOME ONE but It would be a while till 70 for me and the Good pallys will have emerged by then. And the grind, eh, its not so bad, Everything, In my Opinion, becomes a grind.

One thing that attracted me to mage was the invisibilty thing but Rogues can do that at all levels (plus it'll be a while for a mage to get it). I just don't want to deal with extremely hard group finding problems If I make a Rogue. I have heard from tons of rogues before that it is hard to find groups to instances you need to go in, which creates a problem for late-game rogues. In your opinion, will their be a huge case of this in TBC? I can easily adapts to new builds (such as one for soloing and then changing to a raid one) And I have no problem with that. also, in TBC, do you guys think Rogues as well as druids in cat will be able to do stealth runs with smaller groups at lvl 70 of lvl 60 raids (for the loot)? I am really leaning towards rogue but I still have some problems with the group problems. Thanks, if you guys want I can move this post to the Rogue forum. Thanks for your help, keep it coming.
-syntheticminds

[Verathis]

Well, even if rogues and druids can stealth run the 60 raids at 70, it wouldn't matter. From what I've heard, most people are upgrading their epics within the first few levels of the beta (and in some cases, the first few quests).

[Lawbringer]

I may be baised due to the fact that I play a mage, but I'd have to go with BE mage.
Depending on the spec you make you can do insane damage... or have no one ever TOUCH you.

and you never have to worry about getting a spot in most raids. Extra Sheepage is almost never rejected =), along with the vending machine thing... has plusses and minuses.... also - decursing... or else Lucifron and Ghennas would be near impossible =)
and you are a great deal of your raids DPS
though you may be rather exposed in some PvP situations, you're assisting... you're not always doing one on ones again rogues and warriors.
unfortuneately mages are THE single class devoid of healing effects, so heads up-- start 1st aid early, you gunna need bands in PvP (as do most classes but more so with mages)

also... priest + mage combo as you said is a major kickass. bubbles and HoTs and healzalong with a dps a mage can dish out. great combo no matter what.

Hope this helped you in some way in your decision.

[Verathis]

unfortuneately mages are THE single class devoid of healing effects

Wrong. Rogues don't have any heals. And warriors don't either, unless you count Last Stand

[Naolin]

Wrong. Rogues don't have any heals. And warriors don't either, unless you count Last Stand

Hunters can't heal either.

[Oatmealsmurf]

He probably means out of the casters.

[Loriel]

I'll just add that if you're in any way concerned about finding spots in groups and eventually raids, you should be cautious about rolling a Rogue. Together with Hunters, they are probably the most over-populated class, and I've learned from personal experience that finding a group can be tricky. It could work out fine if you have some regular friends/guildies to play with, and if you eventually join a raiding guild and secure a spot there.

Most guilds will imho experience some elements of guild drama over the new 25 man cap, and there is less room for error when composing the raid groups. As such, most non-MT/non-healer classes should expect probably 2 slots (possibly 3), and they need to add something valuable to the mix in order to justify that slot. In my opinion, Mages add more value to their group than Rogues do (buffs, free water, better CC, range, decursing), but then again I am probably a bit biased as I play Mage myself.

I would recommend Mage or possibly Warlock, but then I'm a caster at heart - I've never really enjoyed the melee classes. One big benefit of the Mage class is the ability to Teleport/Portal. With all the class trainers, AH etc still in Azeroth, all classes should expect some traveling time between the two continents. Except the Mage, that is..

Warlocks have also received some major buffs in BC, so I think a Blood Elf Warlock would make an outstanding BC character.

[buttersouthpark]

I have been hesitant to pick my class 100% for TBC when it releases but as the launch date nears, I seem to get more frantic. I think I may be uninformed which is causing me to not be able to choose as well. I am going to be a Blood elf for sure and have narrowed it down to Paladin, Rogue and Mage. I don't really want to be a warlock (though this forum seems to think they are great in TBC, please explain why)

I wanted to be a druid at first but none of the new races can be one so I scratched them.

As far as pally goes, I hear they can tank extremely well but that does not mean they can kill stuff and leveling to 70= killing lots of mobs. Please correct that notion If I am wrong. I have played a pally to mid 20's in the past and they are fun until you have to kill mobs for a quest.

I like the idea of a rogue but I don't like the idea of raid problems. Now I heard that something was going on with 40 man raids in TBC and such but I am extremely unclear with what Is happening, whether they are being removed or w/e. But I hear that PvP is going to be awesome in TBC which is a + for rogues. I just don't wanna be stuck without a group for that raid or instance that I have to enter. (never played a rogue so clear me up if that happens anymore)

As far as mages go, They are kind of the first class I wanted to try in TBC, but I don't want to be one because my friend is a priest and I wanna be a melee class to make a nice combo. I know mage and priest would be nice as well but Eh, I guess I've always played caster classes (Main being a warlock), guess its time for a change.

Shame that BE's can't be warriors, Thats what I wanted to be ever since I saw that picture with the Blood Elf in the Black armor and that huge sword. Guess that wasn't a warrior.

Thanks Alot, Sorry for the long post but I had to get somethings clear before that thing launches.

-syntheticminds



Man I am right it seems all the allies are awitching just because the horde got its good first race, please dont do it stay on your current faction if your doing this because your friend IS ON (currently and not to be) then make a current race and train to 60 looks dont matter because by the time you hit 60 and have your armor the draenei are gonna look like taurens that have a little blue showing and the BE's are gonna look like humans with a slightly better hairstyle showing. If your doing this because of racials just be a rogue (melee) or lock (spell caster)

[Idol]

Man I am right it seems all the allies are awitching just because the horde got its good first race, please dont do it stay on your current faction if your doing this because your friend IS ON (currently and not to be) then make a current race and train to 60 looks dont matter because by the time you hit 60 and have your armor the draenei are gonna look like taurens that have a little blue showing and the BE's are gonna look like humans with a slightly better hairstyle showing. If your doing this because of racials just be a rogue (melee) or lock (spell caster)

How very helpful.

Ayway, back on topic.

You say you don't want to be a caster, and that you want to be needed in groups. Roll a warrior. We are capable of insane damage when specced and geared properly, can take some real punishment (though you'll learn to fear mages) and we are always needed. Very few warriors I meet can actually tank 3+ mobs. If you can you'll never have to wait for a group. Plus your friend is a priest, so if you do runs together it'll be even quicker. I can guarantee that if you write 'LF3M blah Got Tank and Priest' the rest of the party will turn up almost instantly.

[Naolin]

BE can't roll warriors :)