Guild banks

[Mallstrop]

Looking at this (http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=89460946&sid=1) post by a blizzard worker, it seems like we'll be getting guild banks not long after TBC comes in.

It'll be nice not having to rely on single members of the guild to access all your nice loot.

[Tanitha]

That would be wicked. I wonder how they are controlling access, shared loot and so on. I'm sure it'll work well though. Pure happiness.

[Dynatos]

That would be wicked. I wonder how they are controlling access, shared loot and so on. I'm sure it'll work well though. Pure happiness.

Probably similar to their current setup for guild ranks. Guild Master gets full access and ownership, and can assign different levels of access to other ranks in the guild.

Say, Rank 1 is all the Officers and Rank 2 is all the Raid Leaders. The Officers have access to withdraw anything, while the Raid Leaders can withdraw gold and consumables (just a basic example of how I see it functioning).

[Tanitha]

So how do you envision it working for the normal guild members? We'd channel our deposits through the Officers, and make withdrawals through them too?

I've always favoured an approach that took the value of your deposits (Gold or items - items averaged on AH sale price) and allowed you to freely withdraw up to that limit. Items withdrawn would go into a queue for a short time (1 hour like Mail) and will allow an Officer to cancel it or another Guild Member to put a bid on it. (Then it turns into a bidding war for the right to withdraw that item).

Officers would of course be able to exceed these limits to withdraw / award items to Guild Members.

Still. It will be interesting to see what Blizzard does with this. I'm always leery of abuse with these types of things.

[Takahashii]

That would be cool, then again is a big trust issue. Someone might get mad or upset one day and take all the loot and quit guild. Have it set up where they need to go thru guild leader.

"hey guild guy we need 20 mana pots for the raid" Guild master then assigns that person to take only 20 pots and nothing more thru a control type guild panel.

[mesonm]

Probably similar to their current setup for guild ranks. Guild Master gets full access and ownership, and can assign different levels of access to other ranks in the guild.

Say, Rank 1 is all the Officers and Rank 2 is all the Raid Leaders. The Officers have access to withdraw anything, while the Raid Leaders can withdraw gold and consumables (just a basic example of how I see it functioning).

Or, by bag...Thus, perhaps authorization levels can be entered by officers, allowing different [guild rank] levels of access for each bag...

I believe EQII does it this way.

[mesonm]

So how do you envision it working for the normal guild members? We'd channel our deposits through the Officers, and make withdrawals through them too?

Could be like officer chat, where people can post, but not pull out or view...

So, you could put things in, but only officers or other authorized persons could view or withdraw.

[Tanitha]

I'll propose a 40 man raid on Blizzard HQ then. We nab the plans, then we can dissect them on the forum at our leisure.

[mesonm]

I'll propose a 40 man raid on Blizzard HQ then. We nab the plans, then we can dissect them on the forum at our leisure.

Lets make this world PVP, and get alli involved on our side...

[Fursphere]

Its against the rules for horde and alliance to work together.

Doing so would be considered and "exploit" and all players involved would be banned accordingly.

hehe

[tagkc]

Lets make this world PVP, and get alli involved on our side...

Too much lag!!! Server crash!!!!

[djiss]

Too much complicated to implement in the game.

see it that way
for each rank in the guild, you have 3 more checkbox to assign user-right
- view guild bank
- put in guild bank
- withdraw from guild bank

then let guild decide who have these right...

[Eido]

Eve online uses a system (or used to use) where certain hangars (call them bags for WoW purposes) could be assigned different security levels. That way the more precious items could be stored in a more secure hangar (bag).

Cant see the server overheads being too great.

[mesonm]

Too much complicated to implement in the game.

see it that way
for each rank in the guild, you have 3 more checkbox to assign user-right
- view guild bank
- put in guild bank
- withdraw from guild bank

then let guild decide who have these right...

Same thing, but do it per bag...

Not hard at all...Provides different levels of authorization by level of importance....

[ChaosSaber]

The view/deposit/withdraw system, further divided up by rank makes the most sense from a technical point of view. It's much the same as how file permissions work on a computer and, knowing programmers, it's probably one of the first things that comes to mind.

I can see it now:
Guild Master:
view, deposit & withdraw
Bank manager / secondary officers
view, deposit & withdraw
Party leaders / third class officers
view & deposit
Members
view & deposit
Initiates
[no permissions]
The best part of all is no more waiting for the bank officer to come online.

[Leord]

Well, the three levels and just adding to guild management is nice and easy. It covers the basic aspects of not having to wait for officers. Still, if the bank is limited in space, one might have to limit even the "deposit" privileges.

Could be like a "queue", you enter an item, and if it is accepted by the "managers" of the bank, then it is inserted, if not, then auto-mailed back to sender.

For the withdraws, sure, the basics work there too, but it would be REALLY nice to be able to let the officers set a bag or item to a specific player for withdraws, or perhaps just rightclick on an item and "assign" to a player, meaning an instant mail to that member with that item so that you can give it to members even if you are not at the same place. Or to set certain items as "FFA", or have a built-in "COD" feature for withdrawing some items.

It would be really nice for the blues/greens that are donate, we usually let member buy them for vendor price (when we dont vendor them, which is the more common practice), so to have these items there FFA for anyone to buy for vendor price would be nice.

Well, the MOST important feature besides three basic levels of permission is ofcourse a LOG of all deposits and withdraws!

[Therasil]

Well, the MOST important feature besides three basic levels of permission is ofcourse a LOG of all deposits and withdraws!

The bankers would have a hard time without that i'm guessing.

[Mallstrop]

I'm going to make my own personal guild with all my friends alts, that way I get a ton of easy storage :)

[Redmumba]

I think of all the times our GM has been sitting in Naxx, and he has to logout and swap to the GBank character and transfer mats to another user. This has to be one of the smartest things Blizz has done thus far...

[forceofhabit]

The view/deposit/withdraw system, further divided up by rank makes the most sense from a technical point of view. It's much the same as how file permissions work on a computer and, knowing programmers, it's probably one of the first things that comes to mind.

I can see it now:
Guild Master:
view, deposit & withdraw
Bank manager / secondary officers
view, deposit & withdraw
Party leaders / third class officers
view & deposit
Members
view & deposit
Initiates
[no permissions]


That sounds great, the only thing its missing is for the members that can view should also be able to send a request for something they see/want, and the request would be granted or denied by the bank manager or anyone with withdraw privileges

[Tanitha]

That sounds great, the only thing its missing is for the members that can view should also be able to send a request for something they see/want, and the request would be granted or denied by the bank manager or anyone with withdraw privileges

That's a great addition to it. I've always wanted something like that for the AH even (Being able to "watch" for something to arrive), but having it in the Guild Bank itself would certainly be ... as we say here ... "choice".

[Runt]

Sorry for digging up an older thread, but has anyone heard anymore about this possibility?

[teck21]

Probably Blizz are still ironing out any problems from TBC to be seeking to implement this asap.

Hopefully, if and when it does get implemented, it will actually be done with more thought and sense than the LFG thingy.

[DraedynLei]

i'm being cynical here, but i'm already bracing for a flood of "omg our guild bank just got jacked" posts.

[MoRRoW]

I just wrote something in another thread about player house/guild houses.
If this becomes a ''ingame'' thing(guild bank), it'll be great.

It might become a problem of how and what, but for example, we could actually use some kind of PvP reward way to it.

What I mean is that you bring stuff to the bank, you get x guild bank coins(GBC), then you can use your GBC to get some stuff that is in the bank.

For example, a set price of 1 GBC for bringing 1 stack of dreamfoil to the guild bank.

you see in the bank (some kind of auction house design without the bid (just a buyout for x GBC) a BOE item that you want (or whatever mats), and it's on sale for 5 GBC. Well, you know that you need to bring 5 stack of dreamfoil if you want to buy that item.

You could have some restricted items with ridiculous buy out or ''discuss with an officer for this item'' stuff, like mats for crafting a tank BOE with whatever resist is needed. Although you could still supply the bank with these items.

We have to think that when talking about guild bank, it's not much about gold than it is for helping each other out. Sure at start, since everybody wants a flying mount, people would probably sell all the things they get, but at one point, I'd rather gather for example, 1 stack of dreamfoil, put it in bank, and buy a arcanite bar from the bank than having to sell the stack of dreamfoil on the AH and paying like 15G for a bar. (Prices are just tossed in the air as with BC it changes, but you get the idea...)

Guild farmers would be able to accumulate more points for when something they need is there like enchanting stuff for example...

As long as there is a registry that would allow us to see what's in the guild bank at least, instead of always bothers people on guild chat with : Anyone have some xxx items that they could send me?