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memetootoo
05-12-2006, 01:30 AM
Hi I was wondering generally how long will it take people to make their mods compatible with 2.01. Are the changes that are being made a large amount of work for modders? Also what exactly is being changed/made easier?

Thank you.

Narak
05-12-2006, 09:32 AM
A lot of the Ace2 mods have been updated and should already be compatible.

Some mods will only require the TOC file to be updated whilst others will be totally broken. I'm not sure of exactly what is changing, you'll need one of the more clued up modders to give you those answers.

Spookeh
05-12-2006, 12:35 PM
A lot of the Ace2 mods have been updated and should already be compatible.

Isn't the ace site down though?

Narak
05-12-2006, 01:44 PM
Hmm, it wasn't last night when I downloade all the updates, but it does look as if it is now :sad:

tjcee
06-12-2006, 03:19 PM
I'm no developer so I'm a bit confused about the ACE2 issue. I hope someone here can help.

I went to ACE's site, it was up but very slow last night. I downloaded the very latest beta ACE2 unzipped it an put it in my "addons" directory along with the .toc file. When I load wow, ACE2 nor any of the other ACE folders are anywhere to be seen in my list of Addons. I thought I remember seeing all the ACE2 addons listed there pre-2.0 patch.

I went back to ACE's site and read up. I read that I needed the latest ACE2 where it had [TBC] in the file name. I DL'd the latest ACE2[TBC] dated 12/3/06 and put those folders along with the .toc file in my "addons" folder. Once again, no ACE2 in my list of Addons after logging into wow.

Both times, MODs with ACE2 dependency failed to load. and the MOD Chronometer popped up an error message looking for ACE2 libraries.

Am I doing something wrong when I all all the folders that come with the ACE2 DL to the Addons folder? I also put the .toc file inside the /interfaces/addons folder. When I look back at my old pre-2.0 patch addons folder ( I saved it intact ) I don't see the .toc file at all.

The folders in the DL are
AceAddon-2.0 AceComm-2.0 AceConsole-2.0 AceDebug-2.0 AceEvent-2.0 AceHook-2.0 AceHook-2.1 AceLibrary AceLocale-2.0 AceLocale-2.1 AceLocal-2.2 AceModuleCole-2.0 AceOO-2.0 AceTab-2.0

It also had the file Ace2.toc and a few .txt files.

I put all of those (not the .txt files ) into the /interfaces/addons folder.

Any ideas or help would be appreciated.

Thanks.

T.J.

Narak
06-12-2006, 05:12 PM
Ah, I assumed everyone knew how the Ace2 stuff worked. The Ace2 bits you've downloaded are basically the libraries that the Ace2 mods use to run. You don't even need these as the mods have them already embedded. The .toc files need to be left in the folders they are found in.

All you need from the Ace website are the actual mods themselves.

Trepidation
06-12-2006, 06:58 PM
The thing about people usign ACE, is a lot of them didn't bother to setup automatic use of SVN for updates. I updated all my ace mods and never once went to wowace.com

tjcee
06-12-2006, 07:37 PM
Thanks for the replies, but I am still confused.

You say I don't need any of those folders in my /interfaces/addons, right? Also, the only .toc file I see was downloaded when I downloaded the ACE2[TBC].zip file. I even looked into the folders of the MODs like Chronometer and there were no .toc files. Do I need to add the ACE2 folders anywhere? Do I need to put the ACE2.toc file anywhere?

Unfortunately, I'm at work so I'll have to look more into this at home in a few hours, but why was Chronometer giving me a pop up error referring to some ACE libraries? Was the problem with the Chrono MOD?

I was also having trouble with SCT which said, according to LoadIT's in game menu, that it was dependent on ACE2 also (I think, again, I'm at work now). Its pop up error message mentioned a problem with Fubar.. I've never used nor downloaded Fubar?? So I was really confused there.

In the past, I just came to ui.worldofwar.net, DL'd my MODs and stuck them in the /interfaces/addons folder (for the most part). So do I need to do something to get ACE2 and Fubar working?

Sorry for my ignorance, this certainly isn't my field of expertise. I appreciate your help with this.

T.J.

Narak
06-12-2006, 09:15 PM
The thing about people usign ACE, is a lot of them didn't bother to setup automatic use of SVN for updates. I updated all my ace mods and never once went to wowace.com

Thats quite true, I had problems when I first installed TortoiseSVN and uninstalled it from my PC, the problem was actually quite unrelated, but I've used Wowaceupdater for any other updating and not bothered going the SVN route. I must admit I got a little confused with the whole SVN thing and I know wowaceupdater isn't the best way but it has worked for me up to now.

@ tjcee - I'm gonna try and explain this as clearly as I can (and to the best of my limited knowledge). If it sounds like I'm talking to you like an idiot it isn't intentional, it's just me trying to be clear as possible.

Ace2 mods are based on a set of libraries that basically includes a lot of pre-written code to which the mod hooks into. Each library has a different function and therefore mods may use some or all of the different libraries. With Ace2 these libraries are now included with the mod. On startup each mod will load the embedded libraries but only the latest version will actually be used with the rest being turned off (so to speak).

When you download these mods they should include TOC files that tell WoW what the addon is called as well as which version it is. The TOC files should always be in the mods folder that is placed in the Interface\Addons directory not directly in the Addons folder itself.. This will allow WoW to know that the information it is looking for is in the same folder as the TOC file. As long as this is OK, WoW will load the addon into the addons section allowing you to enable/disable it.

The problems you are having sounds as if the Ace2 addons you are downloading have not come with the embedded libraries. This can happen if you manually download from the file section. The best way to download the files on wowace is to use an SVN client (don't ask me how this works cos I haven't really used it). I use wowaceupdater found here --> http://sourceforge.net/projects/wowaceupdater/ (Mods hope this is OK, couldnt see any ads) when you use it, it will check your addons folder for any Ace2 mods. It will also check wowace.com/files and download the list of available addons. Tick the ones you want to use and go File>Install/update Marked addons>With Externals. This will make sure you download all the embedded libraries as well. It will then extract all the files you ticked into your addons folder and viola (hopefully) working addons with libraries.

Occasionally, the addons latest addition contains bugs and or misses the libraries and you are better off using one of the older versions.

Hope this helps and makes sense, because after reading it through, I know what I meant, but I'm not sure anyone else will :rolleyes:

EDIT: If anyone else see's glaring errors by all means correct me, as I said this is my limited knowledge.

tjcee
07-12-2006, 01:54 AM
That sounds Good Narak.

Thanks for the advice.. I'll give it a shot.

/em crosses his fingers.

:smiley:

T.J.

sirjadith
09-12-2006, 08:15 PM
Hi,

I have been using Priest Plus, which can be found at
http://ui.worldofwar.net/ui.php?id=1951

anyways, it detect the level of the person you wnat to cast buffs /rezs and will auto select the right level spell for the person. Also is has % helaing, which will look at a persons life meter and will auto select the right heal spell to heal like 75% of their damage.

I dont know any coding, I tried just updating the version # in the .TOC file, but that didnt work.

I also like the shadow bar, holy and disc bars found at this site.

Is there anything up and running for 2.0.1 to replace this. I see the ACE2 stuff but have no idea where to start to configure that as a replacement or if it will work for me like that.

Any advice or help?

elisheva
10-12-2006, 05:54 PM
does wowaceupdater work on macs?
<crosses fingers.... and legs, and toes>