I'm brand freakin new

[Ash Housewares]

friends bugged me to download the trial

I'm at 30% and trying to figure out what character to make

my friends are gnomes, and since they have the same starting area I guess, I'm going to make a dwarf, and I think I'll be a hunter

is this a good profession for a dwarf? I didn't see a newcommer forum and I wanted a little background info before asking questions in the hunter forum, so I'll be checking here for suggestions while skimming character guides

thanks folks

[Tanitha]

Ash - the only human being with more posts than kcma :grin:

Hunter makes a good combination with Dwarf as you get the +5 bonus to Guns. Finding treasure is a nice ability, but can interfere with your tracking skills (As you can only have one search skill active at a time) and Stone form is also reasonably good.

I went Dwarf for my Hunter and that's been an incredible amount of fun so far.

[MixiMan]

Nice post count for a new player :P

Go horde and gank your friends would be my advice. Get in a guild and organize world PVP with your m8's. Nothing more fun than 20 ppl of opposite factiond fighting and knowing eachother^^

My 2 cents.

Cheers

Edit: stop typing faster than me, i always get beaten on the smart*** comments

[Ash Housewares]

incredible amount of fun sounds fun

my friend also mentioned something about being able to engineer bullets since he's a gnome, like it would be a good combination for the two characters, he is a rogue for what thats worth

nope, not gonna fight them, only people I know* who play the game and I want to play with them like in the good old days of d2 classic



*only people I know IRL, don't be offended ex-diablo friends

[Tanitha]

Yeah, Ash was often lamented on GWOnline.net for that ungodly post count. Like MV and some of the other old-guard, it comes from the Diablo II days, I believe :grin:

Engineering is a profession you can pick up. You can only have two primary professions. They are:

Gathering: Skinning, Mining, Herbalism
Crafting: Tailoring, Leatherworking, Engineering, Enchanting, Blacksmithing, Alchemy

As you can see, certain combinations of those work well. People will usually recommend that you pick up two gathering professions in the beginning as it allows you to earn more money as you're traveling through the world and can simply pick herbs, mine ore, etc. and then sell those products at the Auction House. Once they've reached level 60 and have money coming out their ears they switch to a (or two) crafting professions and level those cheaply.

Others will pick complimentary professions (Mining and Engineering, Skinning and Leatherworking. Herbalism and Alchemy, etc.) to get the raw materials for the equipment they will be making (And possibly using) themselves.

I prefer that second option, but that's simply personal choice. You can also gain all secondary professions and train them. The secondary professions are:

Secondary Professions: Cooking, Fishing, First Aid

All three of those are good to use, particularly for a hunter. (Cook food for your pet and if it eats fish you can fish and feed it too.) Sides. What Dwarf doesn't enjoy whetting his whistle by an icy pond with a nice draught of Thunderbrew Ale and some fine, boisterous companions?

Gnomes get a +15 bonus to the Engineering profession. This makes them a little bit more suited for it, but I've not yet played an Engineer to end-game to know what difference that makes. There are some very cool toys and gimmicks in the Engineering range that have whoopee effects. And you can make guns, scopes and the ammo you need as well.

[Ash Housewares]

nice and simple answers to my questions, thank you

(I don't believe I ever posted on the GW forums :tongue: hehe)

I'm thinking I'll make my own clothes with the leathery type things, but mostly I'll probably figure it out as I go, but it is nice to know there are some good skills to work with and that my partnership with my gnome friend will be a helpful one and that I won't have to fret over producing my arms and I can give him some clothes and such

[MixiMan]

Nice to see another DII veteran here :)

If you are going to be a hunter there are 2 options imo:

1) You are going to play to 60, love being a hunter and by then have made your decision about wether you enjoy pvp or Pve more. i say this because engineering is not very efficient if you are the only one using your engineerd gear( except for pvp ). That is why many people take engineering at 60 to make explosives that can stun your opponent. The scopes, guns, armor are nice, but i think you can get better gear than you can make. Without the trouble of leveling a profession.

2) you are more interested in "doing what fits your character". What i mean by that is, as a cloth wearer you are inclined to want to make your own items so you take tailoring. Same goes for leather, mail and plate. Also for the little gadgets you could make. But you do not need a profession to make a good character.


I had all the professions except for the ones i am leveling right now (herbalism/alchemy). i eventually chose them because i have found my playstyle (mage). And i love the effects i can gain by making my own potions and of course selling some other potions. Also no one in my guild has this combination of professions so i can really help when we finally go to MC( hope we get there before BC hits)


Bottom line would be: Dwarf hunters really are quite good, so if you pick that, i couldnt blame you. Profession wise, try them all out. Wast gold doing so, and look what you like most. You cant go wrong with that attitude :)

Hope this makes sense :)

Cheers

[Tanitha]

Yeah, I don't think you posted but you show up on the homepage as the #1 poster - for a while I had aspirations of chasing you but gave up just shy of 6000 :tongue:

Skinning's quite useful.

With the amount of "beasts" (Boars, bears and so on) around Khaz Modan you will likely grow fed-up with skinning them all the time. It also means you can craft armour kits, which is a nice add on to give you a small armour boost as you're leveling.

Plus, you get to skin most carcasses that you find in the wild. (Killed by other players, left as they're not skinners, etc.) so you can usually gather quite a bit of resources even if somebody has cleared the mobs already.

You might also want to check out kcma's lengthy gold earning thread in the Warlock forums. It provides invaluable advice on how to actually *make* money with some rather sneaky insider tricks posted there. A bit like the old - a job will make you money but a business will make you rich type of argument.

I buy most of my gear from the Auction House, about the only thing I've actually used was the ring that dropped for me last night. A blue ring of Defence with +20 to armour and +6 to defense. Not that great, but it works okay for a level 36 character that needs defense! And that was from a Starving Mountain Lion. It must've been a gnome that wore the ring, that's the only explanation I have as to why the poor thing was hungry.

Then, looking through the UI mods is quite useful as well. Playing with the default UI is okay but to really maximize your playing experience you will want to pick up some mods. Everyone has different tastes, but looking at some of the UIs posted already will give you a fair idea of what is around, what people are using and so on. It's daunting at first, but a bit of experimentation and you'll quickly figure out what works best for you.

[snowieken]

Oh my God, these forums are down the drain.

Welcome, Ash. ;)

[ambushingAnA]

hunny you know you loves it lol

[MixiMan]

Oh my God, these forums are down the drain.



I am sorry but i dont get that remark.

[Tanitha]

I am sorry but i dont get that remark.

I suspect Snow and Ash know one another and that's Snow's manly way of not showing too much affection :wink:

[Georg]

If you're fairly new you can always get a guide
WoW Books & Guides (http://astore.amazon.com/world-of-warcraft-store-20/103-7686733-8432616?%5Fencoding=UTF8&node=1)

greetings

[Twoflower]

ASH !!

and i thaught you' d never come out of these DII forums :)

before deciding on a hunter for sure, how much background info do you have about the game ? Do you know the roles of the different classes in groups ? Do you know how agro works ? This knowledge for sure has alot of influence on your char choice.

[Ash Housewares]

ASH !!

and i thaught you' d never come out of these DII forums :)

before deciding on a hunter for sure, how much background info do you have about the game ? Do you know the roles of the different classes in groups ? Do you know how agro works ? This knowledge for sure has alot of influence on your char choice.

I know nothing

[Orbstu]

Ash, Your idea of taking leatherworking so that you can make your own clothes is a good one. However I am not sure if you are aware that when you hit 40 you can train in "Mail" which means you can then wear mail armour for higher defense rendering all but your best leather gear useless.

I am playing a N-Elf hunter at the moment as am up to lv 46 my skinning is maxed out at 300 and I was using enchanting as secondary to simply DE uncommon items and sell reagents on AH, however with patch 2.01 this is not really viable any more ( I have a mage 300 tailor/300 enchant anyway so no real problem just the Bind On Pickup's to worry about).

Normally a good way of making money as a newcomer is to take two gathering skills out of skinning/mining/herbalisim, however with a hunter you cannot track herbs of minerals at the same time as you are using your hunters traking skill which kind of defeats the purpose of being a hunter.

Oh and BTW welcome from a former DII addict WoW will take over your life, you do know that :D

[Aerath]

Oh my goodness.

There goes the neighbourhood.

Erm, I mean - welcome on board. Bout time.

Dwarf Hunters are fairly entertaining. Pick up Mining and Skinning if you want profit rather than fun with professions. The main reason I'm suggesting this is that this way you'll be able to track everything. Isn't that what being a hunter is being all about ? No other race can possibly track everything, but the dwarf hunter gets to do it all ! Ignore the remarks about not being able to track it all - you can swap between different sorts of tracking within seconds. I always felt it was a moot point if you're not too lazy to click a button every so often.

If you enjoy PvP, try leveling one to 38 and sit in the Arathi Basin/Warsong Gulch 30-39 level bracket for a bit. All you need are a decent gun (there's a blue one at lvl 37 and one at lvl 38) and a whole bunch of bullets to have a blast.

In fact, PvP was the downfall of my hunter... I enjoyed that bracket so much, I stopped leveling him right there and then...

Might want to avoid it like the plague, come to think of it.

--

As to the Leatherworking remark - LWers can make Mail armour. The Scorpid set isn't half bad, and the Black Dragonscale set later on is pretty darn good as well.

[Orbstu]

Sorry for the missinformation, my understanding was that mail armour was made from metal and didn't realise that some of the higher level leatherworking recipes allowed you to make mail armour.

I guess I may now drop enchanting as a secondary and learn leatherworking now :)

[snowieken]

I am sorry but i dont get that remark.As Tanitha said, we know each other from the dii.net forums - that's also where his post count is coming from. These forums were merged on the same server before, when they split, existing accounts were carried over.

I wouldn't speak like that to a real newcomer I don't know, trust me. :smiley:

[MixiMan]

Ah,

i gues you are all from the us then, because i never saw you guys on the DII forums. At least not in the trading forums that is.
THe more the merrier i'd say :)

Cheers

[TwilightAbyss]

More old DII.net off-topic forum veterans joining this part of the community it seems. The more the merrier! ;) Welcome to the darker side! Now that you are here, there's no going back...

And also, dwarf hunter is a good character to start with. Had one myself, ages ago...

[zkajan]

i used to post on the D2 offtopic a lot back when that game first came out, but I doubt anyone remembers me

[TwilightAbyss]

I guess about 300 of my post count is from the dii.net off-topic... Also, I think I had a lot more posts before I went to the army and stopped posting here for a year, does your post count degenerate over time or something :tongue:

Anyways, it's been a long time since I last posted on dii.net off-topic, still visiting it every now and then though.

[degnar]

Wow, this is a blast from the past. Been around these boards a long time (both here and Dii.net), mostly lurking. Read many, many posts from Ash. :smiley:

Good plan to read some of the guides. Don't be shy about the class forums... they are basically sub-sets of the main forums, with mostly the same people there. Also, most class forums here have some newby guides.

Coming here from D2, you have a few things to get used to, which will soon become second nature. The pacing is very different. D2 is faster, spamming you with a ton of enemies. WoW is more one-on-one (or group-on-group).

Once you are used to that, I would ask what style of play you like. Do you want to be front and center, beating on enemies? Or do you prefer standing back, with a little distance between you and the enemy? Do you prefer attacking (offense) or helping (support)? The answer to those questions really helps to determine the class for you. As a hunter, you will be standing back, on offense.

Try different classes as well. At level 10 (easy to get to), you have your class defining skills. By 20, you'll have a good feel for how the class plays.

Prepare to kiss your free time goodbye. :wink:

[Twoflower]

I know nothing

ok

in groups, it is pretty much split up what you do. Warriors usualy hold a shield and only look to hold agro. meanst, the mob should only atack the warrior. Priests, druids, shamans and paladins "normaly" heal the warrior. Hunters, mages and warlocks do damage from the distance, rogues do melee damage.

of course, ever class can stand theyr own, but if you enter a group that is what is more or less expected from you.

now, agro... every action you do in fight generates a certain amount of agro. damage dealt to a mob, heals to ANYone who is infight, regenerating mana or health via potions, anything generates agro, to keep it simple, the player highest on the monsters agro list gets atacked. That s the job of the warrior, to stay up highest in that list.

So, do you want to tank, to heal or to deal damage ? If you want to deal damage from a distance and have a personal tank even when you are on your own ( your pet, which is the first thing you should get at lvl 10 ), then the hunter is right for you.

Downsides : you cannot realy heal yourself ( except potions ), they are so strong that they can get boring :P, not too good vs multible targets. ( well, at least compared to a mage, who can nuke 10 mobs at a time easily when you practiced it a little ) The mage has less survivability though.

all the other questions, like professions, talent distribution are minor details which will surely be answered in the subforum for your class of choice, once you have the big choice made.

Now, choose :P

[Peter]

the accounts were move over, wth ... i was registered on dii.net for like 4 years

[AeroJonesy]

Who let this guy in here? I think I may have to smack his post count with the ol' nerf stick.

Hunters are a great way to learn WoW since they are one of two toons who deal with aggro issues while playing solo. Dwarf hunters are a little rarer than NE hunters, but they are fun to play. I think a hunter makes for the best first toon out there, followed by a warrior, and then a rogue. Maybe that's because my first toon is a healer.

[snowieken]

Ah,

i gues you are all from the us then, because i never saw you guys on the DII forums. At least not in the trading forums that is.
THe more the merrier i'd say :)

CheersNope, I'm not from the US. I mostly resided in the Community Forum and the OTF back there, never really bothered with the trade forums.

[Aerath]

Very very quickly only played Hardcore, and stopped when 1.10 arrived.

[Ash Housewares]

I didn't trade and I was US West so you wouldn't have seen me over there

*makes [in]appropriate gestures at the diablo2 folks*

nice to see you too :tongue:

I'm at lvl7 and been skinning stuff like crazy, lots of fun murdering some animal and making him into shoes

[Aerath]

There's some crocs in the game too, if you want a handbag...

[bwirum]

Oh, oh, oh, I sooo want to get the profession "Accessoires". And I sooo wish Blizzard had the balls to name jewelcrafting "Bijouterie" :D

[xyle]

The good old days of D2! The hours I've spent doing Baal runs and stalking dclone...

I used also used to post a bit on the dii forums, but I forgot my password after I stopped playing and decided it would just be easier to make a new forum account when I started WoW.

Enjoy your WoW experience, and please refrain from eating innocent Gnomes. I know it sounds tempting, but they're tougher than they seem. It might take you hours to chew a whole one :shocked:

[Dutchgrass]

Good ol' D2. /nostalgic sigh
(I periodically posted on the PvP and Necromancer forums).