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[JaedxRapture]

I need some advice from my fellow WoW players. I need to pick a new class to play..
My brother and I plan to hit a new server when BC comes out. We plan to level our asses off and get to 70.
We will be leveling together, so we have decided to pick classes that will work well together for early PvE, but we also need to be a useful class in end-game play. So, what class should I choose that can level well from 1-70 (will likely be leveling as a duo), and will have a useful role in end-game, as well as do good in PvP?
Let me say before you answer that I'd like to avoid healing and tanking. I'd prefer tanking greatly over healing, but it would be best if I could avoid both. I've also played a hunter and two mages, and have little interest in another mage, but will play another hunter if I have to.
I'd also like to mention that I'd prefer a draenei, and their classes are warrior, paladin, priest, shaman, mage, hunter.

Oh, and it's probably important to note that I'm asking this early because I want to get the class to around 25 or 30 on my current server, so I can become acquainted with the class and develop a playstyle before I begin leveling on the new server.

Thanks.

[Tanitha]

It sounds as if you should be picking up a Draenai Shaman. What is your brother heading for?

[JaedxRapture]

It sounds as if you should be picking up a Draenai Shaman. What is your brother heading for?

He told me he would be either base his choice on my choice (so we would easily lvl and do well together for endgame). He may very well be going druid.

As for the shaman choice, well, I wanted a shaman, but I know nothing about the class at all. The reason I wanted it is because I heard they were good, and they are something new to me, because I've never really touched a horde.
Edit: Do you know of any good guides for a shaman? And what talent build is good for PvE duoing and PvP?

[icutyoubad]

I can see a shaman/druid duo doing some serious leveling together. Never really played a shaman, but heard a lot about them, and druid was teh first char I got to 60, so I know what they can do. Druid can tank/dps/heal and I think Shaman can do all three also. You have everything you need in a 5 man group in two people. That's what I would do.

[JaedxRapture]

I can see a shaman/druid duo doing some serious leveling together. Never really played a shaman, but heard a lot about them, and druid was teh first char I got to 60, so I know what they can do. Druid can tank/dps/heal and I think Shaman can do all three also. You have everything you need in a 5 man group in two people. That's what I would do.

I have a feeling I'm going to do a shaman. My bro's been playing a druid just to get the feel of it, and he likes them so far.

Any good guides out there?

[Tanitha]

I rolled a Tauren Shaman on Lightning Hoof (Because I wanted a Tauren) and the Shaman class plays brilliantly. Coming from Paladin and Warlock mainly it was different, versatile and enjoyable.

I was going to roll a Blood Elf Pally + Mage on Lightning Hoof, but I think I'll rather pick up a Draenai Shaman as well and a Gnomish Magette.

[kreyson]

My vote is to go Shaman/Druid or one of you go warlock.

I say, each pick a different one of the three, so you can take advantage of each others buffs.

[Fursphere]

Alliance servers are going to be absolutely FLOODED with Draenai Shaman for the first month or two after BC hits. Same goes for Horde servers and Blood Elf Paladins.

Not that this is a bad thing, but I remember when teh Tier 0.5 upgrade quests came out, and the first quest for _everyone_ was to go to winterspring and farm snow tigers to get blood drops.

What happened the first few days? Snow tiger geocide. lol Meaning, you couldn't complete the damn quest because everyone was killing them faster than they could spawn.

So, the starting quests for each new race will be flooded to about level 20 (I believe Blizz said this is where the new low level areas stop). If you're going for all out leveling speed, new races might be a bad idea for awhile. Or roll a new race, and head to an old race's leveling grounds, to avoid the masses.

I'm going to roll a Draenai Shaman myself and level it to about 15 - 20, just to get the basic mechanics down, and see the new areas. I'm in no rush though.

[Nitsujcm]

I was going to suggest two frost spec mages for fast lvling, but with what you have said, shammy may be the best pick. You will still be called upon to heal some though. I would actually agree with the warlock suggestion. Two warlocks could have ss up for the occasonal death, plus you could have one VW tank and have the other pet dps. Twice the dots and shadow bolts are going to take down mobs fast. Two locks would be my first suggestion, but the sammy druid mix works too.

I am not a fan of druids and find lvling them slow, but that is solo, not sure how it would work with two.

[JaedxRapture]

I was going to suggest two frost spec mages for fast lvling, but with what you have said, shammy may be the best pick. You will still be called upon to heal some though. I would actually agree with the warlock suggestion. Two warlocks could have ss up for the occasonal death, plus you could have one VW tank and have the other pet dps. Twice the dots and shadow bolts are going to take down mobs fast. Two locks would be my first suggestion, but the sammy druid mix works too.

I am not a fan of druids and find lvling them slow, but that is solo, not sure how it would work with two.

Well, I won't touch another mage. I have two, and I'm getting bored of them.
As for the druid thing, well, that's my bro's decision to roll druid.

[Ardani]

Let me just say that a mage + druid combination is beautifully fast as well. I'm not sure it's quite what you're looking for, but it is a very powerful combination. I duoed my frost mage alongside a druid and we were actually hitting the problem of running out of quests because we'd cleared even the red ones without difficulty, and the NPCs wouldn't let us take even higher level ones. :wink:

[Piemaster]

Mage and Priest is probably the most efficient duo combo.

However, gven that you don't want to tank, heal or play a mage, you have basically cornered yourself into playing a Rogue, Warlock or Hunter.

[phyrephly]

I have found that levelling a lock next to a shadow priest is REALLY good.

They make and AWESOME pvp team after level 40, and you have 0 downtime during quests, using wands dots and the lock minion.

Its another option:P

[MammaMu]

Well, if one of you will play druid, why not go rogue for a stealthing duo?

I tried out a rogue + druid duo with my wife, great fun actually, but my inability to level a melee-class above 30 knows no limit...

Our most successful duo are our mains, a mage + hunter team. No fuzzing around, just killing stuff fast with pettanking, traps and cc galore if needed.

Our next alt project will be a warlock + shadow priest duo though, as has been said above they would probably level mad fast and make an uber pvp team.

[UndeadRogue]

What would you guys think of a pally - mage duo ?
(My wife recently started a mage, and I plan to catch up to her with a BElf pally once TBC hits) :smiley:

[Dutchgrass]

What would you guys think of a pally - mage duo ?

Resilient healer + AE = fast exp.

[bwirum]

Indeed, good combo.

[jthgjthg]

If you absolutely don't want to heal, then that cuts out Shaman, Paladin, Druid and Priest... because if you play one of those classes, you will be healing.

Since you don't want to tank, I guess that cuts out warrior. They just got nerfed anyways.

Mage, Warlock, Rogue, and Hunter are really about the same in PvE and PvP. For now, Warlock and Hunter are insanely overpowered in PvP. Things'll probably turn around though.

If you're worried about usefulness in end game, then it's all about the rarity of the role you play. Between a mage, warlock, rogue and a hunter, I would choose warlock simply because it's the rarest non-healing class. The class distribution might change dramatically in the BC though, because of how overpowered warlocks are in it. Of course, healing classes are the easiest to get into a guild with... they'll be practically begging you to join. Dps classes are exactly the opposite, you'll have to work at getting into a guild, and even if you do get in, you'll be fighting other guild members for spots in the best guild runs.

[JaedxRapture]

If you absolutely don't want to heal, then that cuts out Shaman, Paladin, Druid and Priest... because if you play one of those classes, you will be healing.

Since you don't want to tank, I guess that cuts out warrior. They just got nerfed anyways.

Mage, Warlock, Rogue, and Hunter are really about the same in PvE and PvP. For now, Warlock and Hunter are insanely overpowered in PvP. Things'll probably turn around though.

If you're worried about usefulness in end game, then it's all about the rarity of the role you play. Between a mage, warlock, rogue and a hunter, I would choose warlock simply because it's the rarest non-healing class. The class distribution might change dramatically in the BC though, because of how overpowered warlocks are in it. Of course, healing classes are the easiest to get into a guild with... they'll be practically begging you to join. Dps classes are exactly the opposite, you'll have to work at getting into a guild, and even if you do get in, you'll be fighting other guild members for spots in the best guild runs.

I doubt I'll be fighting for guild spots. I hope to be one of the first 70s on the new server I hit, so I don't think there'll be too much competition. In fact, I may need to begin a guild instead of joining one.

Oh, and I've decided to go hunter.

[JaedxRapture]

If you absolutely don't want to heal, then that cuts out Shaman, Paladin, Druid and Priest... because if you play one of those classes, you will be healing.

Since you don't want to tank, I guess that cuts out warrior. They just got nerfed anyways.

Mage, Warlock, Rogue, and Hunter are really about the same in PvE and PvP. For now, Warlock and Hunter are insanely overpowered in PvP. Things'll probably turn around though.

If you're worried about usefulness in end game, then it's all about the rarity of the role you play. Between a mage, warlock, rogue and a hunter, I would choose warlock simply because it's the rarest non-healing class. The class distribution might change dramatically in the BC though, because of how overpowered warlocks are in it. Of course, healing classes are the easiest to get into a guild with... they'll be practically begging you to join. Dps classes are exactly the opposite, you'll have to work at getting into a guild, and even if you do get in, you'll be fighting other guild members for spots in the best guild runs.

I doubt I'll be fighting for guild spots. I hope to be one of the first 70s on the new server I hit, so I don't think there'll be too much competition. In fact, I may need to begin a guild instead of joining one.

Oh, and I've decided to go hunter.

[JaedxRapture]

If you absolutely don't want to heal, then that cuts out Shaman, Paladin, Druid and Priest... because if you play one of those classes, you will be healing.

Since you don't want to tank, I guess that cuts out warrior. They just got nerfed anyways.

Mage, Warlock, Rogue, and Hunter are really about the same in PvE and PvP. For now, Warlock and Hunter are insanely overpowered in PvP. Things'll probably turn around though.

If you're worried about usefulness in end game, then it's all about the rarity of the role you play. Between a mage, warlock, rogue and a hunter, I would choose warlock simply because it's the rarest non-healing class. The class distribution might change dramatically in the BC though, because of how overpowered warlocks are in it. Of course, healing classes are the easiest to get into a guild with... they'll be practically begging you to join. Dps classes are exactly the opposite, you'll have to work at getting into a guild, and even if you do get in, you'll be fighting other guild members for spots in the best guild runs.

I doubt I'll be fighting for guild spots. I hope to be one of the first 70s on the new server I hit, so I don't think there'll be too much competition. In fact, I may need to begin a guild instead of joining one.

Oh, and I've decided to go hunter.

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[jthgjthg]

I doubt I'll be fighting for guild spots. I hope to be one of the first 70s on the new server I hit, so I don't think there'll be too much competition. In fact, I may need to begin a guild instead of joining one.

Oh, and I've decided to go hunter.
I don't quite agree with your sentiment, but I don't want to promote playing a healer either.

I've wanted to reroll either hunter or mage for a long time (to get a taste of a pure damage class - i.e. less gear sets and the ability to solo well), but I always gave up at around level 30 because I was having such a hard time finding groups and also because I felt expendable in groups. Maybe I'm just spoiled by my druid, but I just like how much my druid is appreciated in groups and how, as a healer/dps/tank-in-one, I can personally save a party from wiping.

[JaedxRapture]

I don't quite agree with your sentiment, but I don't want to promote playing a healer either.

I've wanted to reroll either hunter or mage for a long time (to get a taste of a pure damage class - i.e. less gear sets and the ability to solo well), but I always gave up at around level 30 because I was having such a hard time finding groups and also because I felt expendable in groups. Maybe I'm just spoiled by my druid, but I just like how much my druid is appreciated in groups and how, as a healer/dps/tank-in-one, I can personally save a party from wiping.

Well, I'm best at a hunter. I've played other classes, but I have a natural talent for hunters that makes me FAR better with them than with anything else. I've learnt to play the class well and overcome any boundary that normally challenges most people who roll hunter. I'm sure I'll do great.

[HHSmanfunnyxgz]

http://www.wowwiki.com/Starting_a_Shaman

Free Guide to starting a shaman, may be usefull to read through before begining, as well as while playing.

http://www.wowwiki.com/Starting_a_Druid

Free guide to starting a Druid if your brother wants it.

Both guides help you get started through the first 1- 7or10 levels, as well as give you a pretty good outlook on what you will do, and what races are best.

[ZomgBBQ]

http://www.wowwiki.com/Starting_a_Shaman

Free Guide to starting a shaman, may be usefull to read through before begining, as well as while playing.

http://www.wowwiki.com/Starting_a_Druid

Free guide to starting a Druid if your brother wants it.

Both guides help you get started through the first 1- 7or10 levels, as well as give you a pretty good outlook on what you will do, and what races are best.

Cool, that'll be helpful for me..

[Phelix]

Draenei Shaman if you are alliance and Blood Elf Paladin if you are horde.

These two classes will be in high demand for raids later on, if you are one of the first 70s you will have a easy time getting into a really good raid guild as soon as you hit the level cap.