Have you ever been called a ninja?

[snowieken]

The word "ninja", defined as someone who deliberately ignores the loot rules and/or presses need on items he doesn't really need, is pretty widespread. However, have you ever been accused of being a ninja, justified or not?

I just was. I was doing Gnomeregan in a PuG with my lvl 31 mage. Electrocutioner Lagnut drops from Electrocutioner 6000, a ring with +4 Stamina and +9 Spirit. We didn't have a Priest, our Druid greeded it, and as I still had a finger slot open, I asked if I could need. Everyone said "Sure", only the warrior... He said "Need it too" and proceeded to roll Need. I rolled as well and won, so I got it. He proceeds to swear at me and call me a ninja, because as a mage I should be looking for Intellect and Stamina in my equipment. "Sure, and I hope you, as a Warrior, will get lots and lots of Spirit items in your further WoW career" I replied. Seriously, some people are really too stupid to think about what they are saying.

[sqchram]

Calling ninja was bad, but spirit affects mana and health regeneration. Something he could use.

I was called a ninja once in a Scholo PUG. I don't remember if it was the 10-man days or not. I cleared with the group earlier if I could get the skin of shadow. However, toward the end rooms some people left and new ones joined. I forgot and grabbed the skin and was yelled at.

But after I explained all was well.

[snowieken]

Calling ninja was bad, but spirit affects mana and health regeneration. Something he could use.Of course, everyone can use Spirit. But it's by far not his main stat, he didn't need it any more than I did. If all I would say I needed it more - granted, it's not my main stat either, but I have a lot more use for it than he does.

[WatcherZero]

I remember a time i was playing on my druid (main at the time), doing quests. this mage asks to join him to do a quest together, we are both early 50's and he was grouped with a 60 who was in a diffrent region.

Anyway after a dozen or so mob kills Myrmidons Signet drops (epic +agi/str/stamina BoE ring). I announce politely that i intend to roll need as its a feral ring, he announces that it would be ideal for his hunter alt and could he please roll need too? Its a valuable drop, several hundred gold value and BoE, im feeling generous so i say sure you can roll for your alt. anyway we both roll need and i win, at which point for the next 10 minutes him and his 60 mate spam "Ninja" to me and "I cant belive you won it over me for my hunter alt"

After a while they shut up and i carry on playing, 2 hours later i then recieve a tirade from one of the people in his guild, calling me names for winning the ring. I formulate a un-angry and polite response only to find this random person has put me on ignore before i even had a chance to reply "we both rolled need".

Anyway that was the only time i was ever accused of being a ninja other than in jest.

[azis]

I haveonly eve been called a ninja once and thats when i went UBRS and we killed the beast and the skinners dagger droped and i was the only skinner so i needed it and won i then went on to skin the beast and got pristine hide of the beast at this point my group was demanding that we all rolled on it but i was asking why... they wouldnt have been able to even get it if it wasnt for me so i didnt know why they wanted it. anyways i let all the people who needed it for quests roll for it and i still won. at this point they kept calling me a ninja and kicked me from the group. later on i was reading LFG chat about ho i ninjaed it but when told the whole story everyone said i was well within my right to keep it... he he he
and thats the only time i have ever been called a ninja

[DarthMuffin]

I've never been bluntly called a ninja, but I recall one time when I looked like a real idiot... and that's probably what saved me from being called a ninja. :shocked:

I was on an elite quest (not even an instance!) with my mage in the low 50s. I reckon it was in searing gorge, and I hadn't played WoW for quite some time (~5 months). I was with this rogue and warrior, and one of the elite boss dropped an axe with something like +str and +stam (green or blue, I don't remember). I instinctively clicked on the item anyway, and after taking a look at the thing I clicked pass (the two others really needed such a thing more than my mage).

Why neither the rogue or the warrior rolled when I first looted the item is beyond my understanding. So anyway the rogue tells me to roll for it anyway (I guess he wanted things to be fair). I now understand that he expected me to /roll, but I simply went ahead and clicked the items again, expecting the little roll window to open up again. It didn't, and I was terribly happy to see that the item wasn't BoP. I proceded to /roll and the rogue won. Told me to give him the item, and I was all too happy to do so. Just to add a bit more to my humiliation, I put the item in the lowest box of the trade window and looked like an idiot for another 10 seconds :tongue:

So yeah, I was a big noob that day. The two others probably thought I was too stupid to even consider ninja looting the axe.

[HHSmanfunnyxgz]

If someone called me a ninja id say "damn right :afro:". Dont really know how it became an insult on WoW. Well if I were in your position I would tell the warrior to give me a good convincing reason on why he/she needs the ring. Of course anyone with that ring would benifit, but a mage with less defense than a Warrior would benifit alot more. The warrior who's callin u a "ninja", I assume, is a tank, we all know the tank can take damage a helluvalot better then a mage or other defence weaker classes, in wich case he/she needs it less. Tell him/her that and add on a "put that up your pipe and smoke it", and if he/she doesnt like it tell em to get over it, fair is fair, your side is fair. I can see if he/she would want it more because they are a signifigantly lower level then you though.

[Ev_]

The word "ninja" wasn't used but...

First character, first instance run of my WoW career, doing Deadmines with my Paladin. Don't remember all of the group, but the antagonist was a dwarf warrior that was too high a level for the instance. The whole time through he's yelling at us all to hang back and not do anything, and if any of us "got him killed" he'd be really pissed. Basically an arrogant SoB who thought he knew everything. But that's a whole other story. Anyway, we get to Smite, and when he dies he drops his hammer. First blue I'd ever seen, and as I'm checking it out, the dwarf and one other guy pass and the other two group members greed. I've been using a two handed mace, but Smite's hammer trumps it, so I greed for it as well. I win. At that point the dwarf flips out and starts cursing at me and throwing insults. I ask for an explanation, and get more insults. So I tell him to stop being an elitist dickhead and explain to me what his problem is. Then he boots me from the group.

Good riddance, I was tired of him yelling at people for trying to contribute anyway.

[snowieken]

I don't believe it has much to do with defense, in my opinion. I might agree if someone said that we had equal rights to the ring, but I definately think that a Warrior doesn't need that ring more than me. The Warrior only has use for +4 to Stamina, and while the +9 to Spirit isn't bad, it is pretty much unnecessary for him. However, that Spirit is the main stat on that ring, and while it is not a primary stat for a Mage either, it is definately more important to him.

Then again, Stamina is more important for the Warrior, but as it was only a bonus of 4 opposed to the 9 to Spirit... He could easily get another ring with more Stamina and also a stat that benefits him more than Spirit, for instance Strength or even Agility. Lots of green rings at his level are better for him than that blue one. :smiley:

Oh, and he was level 32, so one level higher than me.

[Tanitha]

Maybe when somebody sees something blue their reason is disabled?

[snowieken]

When someone sees something blue and they didn't get it, you mean. :rolleyes:

WatcherZero's case is a clear example of that. He even let the guy roll for his alt, which is usually not done, and still he gets yelled at. Why? Just because he won the roll. People on the internet disgust me sometimes. :ponder:

[MadVlad]

I can't remember if I was called a ninja exactly, but on my first instance run ever, in WC, we got to a chest. I thought that chests worked the same as looting corpses, so I proceeded to open it, figuring that if it wasn't mine, I wouldn't be able to open it. I opened it and pulled out a green or two and some grey shoulders. This other guy starts flipping out and /slapping me, and while I'm trying to figure out why he is, he continues to berate me in chat and /slap me. I gave him the greens, but I kept the shoulders, as I didn't have any, and I couldn't get any reasonable explanation from him. He kept saying "I won the roll" and I kept responding with "What roll?" :) A serious cluster**** of a conversation, made all the more screwed by my acknowldeged noobness and his assitude. I ended up keeping the shoulders and just hearthing from the instance, I was so mad.

Funny how someone virtually slapping your character can create similar feelings to the real thing.

[Twoflower]

that s why i dont even ask anymore. Think for yourself if you need it or not, then klick the apropriate button. you can not explain everything to everyone, specialy not these guys who think they can tell you how to play your char. All you can do is hope that the other people think too befor they click.

[sqchram]

im feeling generous so i say sure you can roll for your alt.

Wow, I just can't believe that guy - from all I've come to learn and know, you do NOT have a right to roll for an alt, unless you ask and permission is given.

Otherwise I could roll on my main for every alt drop and every alt profession that I have, created toon in existence or not!

[Mallstrop]

I got called a Ninja once, playing on my paladin in UBRS, Rend and Gyth had died and some one had looted them with the Group loot system. Up pops the windows with a Chromatic scale(BoP) and the doomsaw I think it is (Blue Polearm, also BoP). A few of the group pass, including the warrior then about 4 of the clothies roll greed. Left in a complicated situation, I looked at the group, A few of us were left to decide, do I risk losing the item to a group of people that can't even use them or take them for my self? Well, only I could use the 2 items from those people so I decided to go with it. Need on both at the last possible time so that no one can stop me, I walk away with a very nice epic item (Once I get the quest done) and a weapon a ton better than what I had at the time. It upset the group, but all that matters is that I got the items.

As for real ninjaing, I'm too good to get caught.

[Felix Niebuhr]

This doesn`t seem like a thread about ninjas, as much as a thread about sore loosers. I have had a single epic drop, the skullflame shield in Maraudon. I remember I asked if I could roll need, being the single melee class in the group. And as a new player I didn`t even consider that it was not correct.

Well all agreed I could need, but for the rest of the run I had this one dude whisper me with questions regarding the drop. Like: can you please link the SM shield you used before, because he wanted to have a look at it. He never called me a ninja, but it shone out of the screen that he regretted the fact that I got the shield on a need roll. Whatever.

On another note I have been called a ninja by 3 out of 4 group members once in sunken temple. We downed the shade of that dragon, and our priest died. While he was yelling not to loot, I went over and checked the drop :). The drop was the piece of plate and another blue. I needed the plate and greeded the other blue, and won them both. Then the ninja thing started, and I was clueless. I kept on arguing that I needed and greeded correctly and did not understand what the fuss was all about.

Well it was my first char and it was the first time I was involved in a situation where we were supposed to wait for a member to run back in. Mehh, the 3 guys left and the run was over, only the last member was kind enough to keep a polite chat with me, and he was the reason I understood what the hell the other guys were babbling about. Hehe, I guess I was a ninja allright, though there were no priest items in the drop at all, I didn`t know that before I checked to see the drop of course.

[nosoup4crr]

I have an alt that I use for all of my AH and bartering transactions. He's a level 1 named "auctioncrr" who has a number of high value items. I'm CONSTANTLY called a ninja when I list 5 or 6 epics and a few rares. I was sure that most people had alts to whom they sent the stuff they wanted to sell on the AH. Now, I've never once had a BoE epic drop for any of my characters. All of these items that I sell on the character are purchased, and resold on the AH. I'm quite proud of myself for having accumulated over 2k gold before I ever had a level 50 character. However, it's bittersweet when I get called a ninja everytime my prices are too steep for someone.

[waylanderr]

doesn`t seem like a thread about ninjas, as much as a thread about sore loosers

I don't know where this came from, you can't have a ninja story and have lost the roll.

Snow a warrior with a spirit ring is just weak. Thats a caster ring. We are reminded sometimes that we play with preteens and just dumb people.

I ninja'ed :) in AQ20 once. I rolled on +30 Healing to gloves, a relatively rare enchant. At the time of the roll I was a level 292 enchanter therefore the spell wasn't learnable immediately. One person hounded me for around 15 minutes asking me to learn it immediately. I was polite throughout and basically told him I din't care agree or care about his opinion, was able to use the spell the next day.

You get what you get in a pug. Some items are very class specific and some are marginal. To me a true ninja agrees to loot rules and then violates them. IE pass on BOP's and roll. And if you do that you should get harassed and kicked.

[snowieken]

Snow a warrior with a spirit ring is just weak. Thats a caster ring. We are reminded sometimes that we play with preteens and just dumb people.Yeah. The thing is, he wanted it for the Stamina buff. The whole whooping +4 points to Stamina. If he denies a caster the +9 to Spirit because he wants the +4 to Stamina, then I do wonder who the ninja is here.

In retrospect I am so glad I won the roll, if only for the cause of justice. :afro:

[Suicider]

I've been called ninja, or similar stuff, sadly by people which I know, usually :cry: .. Sometimes it's justified (guys being an ass, I can use an item and just to be an ass back I ninja his item.. it's not right, but it's fun when they explode), sometimes it isn't..

one thing that I remember clearly was in ZF, playing my troll shaman, 43 or 44 at the time.. We killed Zum'rah, and the staff dropped (+int, +sta, +21spldmg and nice DPS.. awesome for a shaman).. In the group there was also a druid, which had been in cat form almost all instance, while I had been blasting stuff and back-up healing.. However, he still insisted on needing the staff, but lost the roll to me and started *****ing in global LFG channel.. got questioned about it by his guild leader and 10 minutes later he was asking for a guild :afro:

[maladroit2000]

I rolled need on a ring with +stam and +shadow res that dropped in Scholomance while my druid was tanking. The priest leader then called me a ninja and kicked me from the group because his guild was raiding Naxx and mine was not at the time.

Apparently items with +resist are exclusively meant for people raiding the 40 man instances where those items are most needed. Hmm.

[Baal]

Nope. I've never done anything warrant such a thing, really.

I often even pass on PoE items that I simply have no use for - incase someone else could end up using them.

I'm quite good with that sort of stuff, and I always double check to ensure I did indeed win/earn the item.

[snowieken]

As my story (and other stories here) proves, Baal, you don't have to actually be a ninja looter to earn the "right" to be called one. :wink:

[Gormash]

I've only been called a ninja once.
Please stay with me when you read this story. I -will- get to the point. ^_^

I'm the guildleader in a scandinavian guild on Trollbane, and one of our members had broken our rules mutiple times and gotten several warnings, so eventually he was kicked.
Several days later I get a whisper from a real-life friend of said player that start to complain that I kicked his friend (mind you, I've never even heard of this player), and when I explained he start to curse and swear at me, so I accidentally managed to add him to my ignore list.

Well, one hour after one of my officers, at that time playing an alt in Barrens, tells me that this newly ignored person is spamming the Barrens chat saying I've ninjaed several things from Wailing Caverns.
I unignored him and asked if he did that, he said "Yes". I asked him to stop and to apologize in public, and he refused.

Guess what happened next? Yup, the "Verbal Abusement" button in the Ticket panel. Never heard from that player again... ^_^

By the by, why would I ninja some WC gear? My shaman was lvl 52 at the time. Not exactly the best equipment he could have. ;)

[leonhead]

Warrior? Using mana? Don't think so:shocked:

[snowieken]

Warrior? Using mana? Don't think so:shocked:Spirit gives as much health regeneration as it gives mana regeneration, so that's a bit of a moot point. :tongue:

[kcma]

the only thing i ninja are other people's thread... i do what i can to make it kcmacentric?? :D

and i think anyone who gets upset over something in gnomer is just silly... and i say mage gets alot more out of spr than warrior.

maybe snow needs a hug ;)

[sqchram]

OMG I WUZ ON MY WARR AND THIS AWESOM STAFF DROP IT HAS INT AN MY WARR SMART SO I GET THEN PPL YELL! THEY ARE THE STUPIDZ!


Lol, sorry, just waiting for a juicy story like this.

I believe that once you get a main to 60 and start running with a guild using DKP, you don't really sweat the ninjas on your alts. Perhaps only on principle.

Then again my 42 alt hasn't been in an instance yet =]

I only plan to get the ZF carrot, DM trinket, UBRS Blackhand's Breadth.
Then again, with Burning Crusade, maybe all I'll need is that carrot =]

[djiss]

I'll prolly be called ninja yesterday, but I was gone.

We did BRD (me as priest), keep dying almost every pull, it was terrible. That silly warrior DW all the way. not able to keep 1 mob on him, the 2 other rogue was stealing agro of him, not counting all the other mob going right to me the second I heal. BTW, I know warrior can DW tank (when they know how to do it...)

"Edgemaster handguard" dropped. I say "everyone greed on that", everyone greed, I greed, I win. 2sec later we wipe again. I left.

but I shared the profit from the epic with the mage who was with us, the only one who had a bit of brain.