healers.....

[joejoeirish]

Start HEALING!

don't wait for an ask.

don't let teamates die.

don't use BG for your " a chance to do something besides heal"

don't tell others "if you want a heal, roll a healer class"

JUST HEAL!

[Bryant]

Keep people off of me, and maybe I will. :thumbsup:

Seriously, though, I don't think I've come across someone that can heal who doesn't do it in BGs. I've even see druids break cat form mid-fight to heal someone.

Have you ever played a healer in BGs? Most people, especially rogues, hunters, and warriors (At least to in my experience), come for us first. Its extremly difficult to heal when you're dead. :wink: I've never seen anyone try to kill someone whos attacking me, though. Then again I've never been in a pre-made, either.

Now that I think about it, I need a friend whos a hunter to lay some frost traps next to me when Im healing.

[Cerberus]

I really enjoy healing in BGs. It's a lot more challenging than smallscale PvE, as you allways will be the one targeted. I understand why people don't want to heal in a BG with their mains if they play healers, but if you choose not to you end up being there for your own sake to some extent.

This is relative to class, spec and circumstance as allways ofc. I don't expect a 2,5k manapool feraldruid to be my personal healer, but I do get annoyed when the holypriest next to me decides to smite for 500 instead of throwing a flash heal and gets us both killed.

In the end you can't really expect people to do pug BGs for anything else than their own sake and amusement, but I'm pretty sure most people prefer winning to losing.. What I really hate is having half my AV filled up with hunters/mages just farming HKs on the way from SH to SP instead of actually going there and get it. That's a lot worse than not healing in my opinion.

I'm talking about the people that prefer walking back to eat&drink to boost their honor max and making it impossible for the ones trying to win by filling up 1/4 of the spots with a static honorfarming team. The last AV I played today had 10-15 people staying at the exact same position in front of Icewing bunker with close to no casualties. The rest of us beat alliance back to Iceblood and took SP in a few mins when the 3 first people got to offense.
I doubt those people in front were incapable of that feat if they had bothered in those 45 mins it took us to fight back (after a no GY marshall pull ofc :p ).

[Aerath]

I'll spare you the same comment I spare lvl 51 hunters bugging me in AV...

L2Bandage.

Seriously, unless you pay someone's $15 (or eu equiv.), you don't decide how other people play. And most people who enter the BGs are not Healers, as that's just a consistent corpse run.
Healers who do enter use the BGs to do something other than watch 40 health bars.

If you get a heal in a BG, you deserve one. If not, you'll res with full health in 30 seconds max again. That healer just got you to full health @ the cost of 0 mana. Can't be any more cost effective.

[joejoeirish]

i know half my comment was just to get discussion going.

i dont expect full heals in Bgs but once in a while.... the idea of helping the priest to get the heal later is interesting- although it really should be about the team.

playing in BGs makes u realize how important discipline and command are in the real military.

[timebomb]

The problem with healing in BGs.

1. Unless it’s an organized group or my group stays together healing is a pain in the a$$. Out of range.

2. Protect me

3. Don’t be a fool an rush in to the group of alli with out telling anyone, sorry but when 7 people are hitting you your going to die.

4. Healers heal in raids and instances 98% of the time. How about a break man.

5. This is important. Healers stay back and heal the group from behind. If you run in you will be out of range and the guy your trying to kill is running back now your way out of range.

Tips for healing in BGs.

1. Cycle friendly targets. Works just like tab. I change my bind to "caps lock".

2. Don’t try to be a hero stay alive and HOT everyone taking any damage.

3. Nothing says kill me more than chain heal and shields. On the other hand chain heal is great honor.

4. Find a well geared tank and get all the objectives done "av" or live with him and kill a lot of alli.

Tips for everyone to think about.

1. If you want heals roll a freaking healer.

2. Healers are not here to be your *****.

3. Yelling at people and telling them how to play is for people who are standing in the cave leaching honor.

4. Don’t be stupid and reckless because you saw a priest around.

5. As a healer I can do more damage than 75% of the DPS people in my BG group.

I don’t mean to be an a$$ but please play with you head. You can’t control others actions but you can control yours. This reply is not aimed at any one person. I'm just sharing from a healer point of view. Also a lot more people heal in BGs now that they changed honor.

[joejoeirish]

The problem with healing in BGs.


2. Protect me

4. Healers heal in raids and instances 98% of the time. How about a break man.
1. If you want heals roll a freaking healer.
.


You made some good points - but these are the problems... one of the things i said on this thread was dont tell us to roll a healer class!

[timebomb]

You made some good points - but these are the problems... one of the things i said on this thread was dont tell us to roll a healer class!

telling you to roll a healer makes you feel the same way you make others feel when you tell them to heal you. personaly i made a DPS class that can heal. just like a tank makes a DPS class that can wear plate, a rge DPS class can stelth/ stun, a hunter DPS can trap, a lock fears, a mage sheeps. i my friend can heal my self or you if i so choose.

understand there are many times i do just heal others. i love to heal at times. but i dont see you posting about those times.

[Mojorising]

The main reason a healer wont heal you is because they simply dont feel appreciated. Showing them some love every now and then they will recipricate.

Many people play battlegrounds with tunnel vision. They seem unable to be able to look around them at there teammates while they are fighting, but instead are only fixated on the one target. If you want heals you need to always be aware exactly where your healer is at all times, are they in range?do they have someone attcking them? Do they have mana?

A good tip I find is at the start of a battleground (this works better in ab and wsg I find) look around at whos a healer. Send them a whisper saying something like "If you throw me a heal every now and then I'll do my very best to look out for you". Of course, you have to keep to your end of the bargain or else they wont keep to theres. If you are unable to save them on one or two occasions, send them a quick apology and explain why. It's a two way street. A healer who doesnt heal, teamed up with a DPS wont last 5 minutes, same as a healer who does heal teamed up with a DPS who doesnt protect him. But if they are both looking out for each other they will be a devastating unstoppable force.

[Lydda]

Newsflash - Healers DO heal in BG's. Check the score sheet if you doubt me.

Biggest reasons YOU may not be getting a heal (and by YOU I mean everyone who's in BG's and felt they should have had a heal) are:

1. I'm out of mana
2. I'm dead
3. You are OUT OF RANGE
4. You are getting beat up by 5 people. No amount of healing is going to save you.
5. I'm getting beat up on and NOBODY is looking out for me. My bacon gets saved before yours.
6. Shields do have a cooldown, so saying, "You should have shielded me, nub" gets you no bonus marks if I've already used my shield recently.
7. HEALS TAKE TIME TO CAST, even Flash Heals take time
8. It's no fun to heal 100% of the time, so give me a break if I want to get one or two killing blows with SW:P or Smite. They pale in comparison to your 10-50 KB's per game, so suck it up. You'll res at full health in 30 seconds or less.
9. And everything I have has a global cooldown, so if I've just cast an instant renew, I have to wait 1.5 secs before I can cast again.

So if you want a heal and aren't getting one, get some combat potions and bandages. Or pull out of combat and eat. I have to pull out of combat to drink so I can heal you. And don't ask for a heal. If you are in range, I already know that you need a heal with my nifty mod. There are (9/14/39) other people in the battleground that I may have placed on a higher priority than you and also need my heals.

[tagkc]

Because PUG BG's are the truest sense of a free for all in the game. The first couple of times healers go into BG's, they try to heal, but all they see are "Out of range" messages. Everyone and their brother goes all over the map, never paying any attention to healers until they need a healing. How often have you stopped to look where the nearest healer is before going and charging into a group of enemies?

As far as your "don't use BG for your " a chance to do something besides heal"" comment: Until you have healed for a 40 man raid, mind numbingly watching health bars for 3+ hours, don't chastise our desire to do something else.

So basically, if you want healing in BG's, I'd recommend going in w/ pre-made groups and watch out for your pet healer.

[mesonm]

Seriously, unless you pay someone's $15 (or eu equiv.), you don't decide how other people play.

/agree

This is important at all levels, and all areas of the game...I emphasize that last word, since many people forget it...

/salute


And most people who enter the BGs are not Healers, as that's just a consistent corpse run.
Healers who do enter use the BGs to do something other than watch 40 health bars.


yeppers...If I go to a BG, it is most often because I want a break from raiding, and want to use the other half of my toon...I heal when I think it is needed, and when I'm not getting hammered...But, it is when I think so, not when other people think it should be so...

[mesonm]

don't let teamates die.

don't use BG for your " a chance to do something besides heal"



ROFL

1. Teammates? They are random picks that I may never see again...A team takes time to form and work together...We'll lose AV long before that happens, in most cases.

2. Pay my $15, and I'll give you some say in how I play the game...Until then, I get to play, or not, how I wish.

[Grendo]

Shrug, I had 114k in heals in my last AB last night, PuG vs PuG, and still got complaints, nevermind the fact we won (an alliance pug rarity). This is why I wish I had more days off during the week - once the kiddies get out of school its a free for all.

Apparently, they've found their way here as well.

[shifttusk]

Keep people off of me, and maybe I will. :thumbsup:

Seriously, though, I don't think I've come across someone that can heal who doesn't do it in BGs. I've even see druids break cat form mid-fight to heal someone.

Have you ever played a healer in BGs? Most people, especially rogues, hunters, and warriors (At least to in my experience), come for us first. Its extremly difficult to heal when you're dead. :wink: I've never seen anyone try to kill someone whos attacking me, though. Then again I've never been in a pre-made, either.

Now that I think about it, I need a friend whos a hunter to lay some frost traps next to me when Im healing.


This is all you need to do. Be a friend to your healer and he will heal your "butt". I almost always get heals in BG's by doing exactly that in AB when your in the first node that gets hit you defend your healer. Suddenly when you're getting whooped on you get a 3.5k heal.

I can't count the number of times I've gotten appreciatative tells and heals for saving my scatter to defend a healer and keeping a frost or ice trap near him. Be nice to your friends with fewer stuns and cheap dps tricks and they shal be nice to you. Heck I even get inervates once in a while in pvp.

[Weebull]

Last night, I decided to do something a little different. I was getting frustrated after "our" 5th loss in a row via AV (horde = shocker). I just figured, what the heck - lets see what kind of honor comes in with healing instead of dps (you guessed it - I'm a 51point shadow spec priest) I mean, every single NE hunter, rogue and crazy charging boar wants a piece of me anyway... maybe if I throw around more heals, a big old warrior will stand between me and everyone else gunning for the ugly shadow priest.

It was tough... not hitting that shadowform button at the beginning of the round. Matter of fact, I decided right off the bat to let my new pug group know where I stood this round - I burnt a candle for a group fort. This group consisted of several hunters, a lock and a Warlord ranked warrior decked in purples (bingo!) I said, "guys, lets just stick together and follow <big warrior> advances. I'll throw heals." The outcome, I couldn't believe it - we did great (we won!) We'd advance, hunters would drop traps around me. The warrior was cleaning house and everyone even WAITED when I had to drink up. Occasionally, I'd ranked 1 dot up a target to +15% shadow damage (to our locks glee) turn on Imp V.E and heal bomb our warrior. I got more tells saying "wow, nice heals!" I think healing really throws people off - and they appreciate it.

Overall, it was a very satisfying match. I'll say, I got very slightly less honor as I would normally spamming SW:P and MB's everywhere but I'll tell you a few things. 1.) I didn't die once. Woe be the sneaky rogue that hit the 1st frost trap at my feet.... pets and arrows all over him real quick. 2.) I was surprised how effective my heals were - maybe it my +dam/heal EQ or maybe I just don't heal enough to realize? 3.) Our tank got #2 and one hunter got #3 in kills. 4.) I got #1 in heals (by far). 5.) Again, we won and I had a blast.

I'm not saying everyone will (should) play like this - heck most pugs just want to do their own thing and not work together. Maybe I just got lucky with the right group and a good combination of classes.

[Claritondeus]

I have a 60 Druid and 60 Priest. My 60 Druid is resto / feral speccd (0/7/44) and I heal all the time in the BG's. My Priest is shadow speccd (5/0/46), and a LOT of fun.

Typically I'll start out on my druid, who I love healing on, and run an hour or two in the BG's on him. By that time, I will have been absolutley dominated by every class under the sun, and switch to my priest to just melt faces. Which is fun... Blowing off some steam. Even as my priest, I'll pop out of shadow to heal ppl if they need it, but my focus is on 1600+ MB crits, with VT and SW: P on ppl.

In my raiding guild, almost every healer (priest / druid) has a dps class as an alt, who they play in the bg's. I always liked the idea of shadow priest, so I rolled that. They all play rogues or hunters, so they don't have to hear "heal me" all the time. I'm sure this happens quite a lot.

In Premades, there is nothing more fun than healing with my druid, or priest for that matter, cause we are on vent, and I can say "um, rogue poking at me... little help?", and ppl will immediatley come to my aid. Can't do that in PuG's, and dying / getting targeted always gets old fast.

Basically, if someone is healing, /bow to them. Be respectful to them. Telling them to heal you is one way to ensure that you will NEVER get a heal. Everyone else has basically outlined the ways to get heals / make friends with healers.

One of my favorite bg memories was capping the mine in AB with a full t2 pally with some big badass 2h sword. 3 Hordies came down the hill, and I kinda walked backwards into the brush. They all attacked the pally, while I sat there and healed him. He ended up slaughtering all of them (rogue sham, warrior I think), then i get a tell saying "omfg i LOVE you man. /bow /salute" I ended up following him around for the rest of the bg, and we just tore through things.

[Dynafrack]

ya get just as many HKs if not more from healing everyone.

"L2bandage" is a cop out for chump healers who stand next to me when I die. Ya can't bandage while you fight.

[timebomb]

ya get just as many HKs if not more from healing everyone.

"L2bandage" is a cop out for chump healers who stand next to me when I die. Ya can't bandage while you fight.

^^ See it's replys this this that just scream "Dude, roll a healer and heal yourself" If healing is so importain why are you not doing it. Guess what that healer next to you was probably doing more DPS than you were and on top of that was healing when he/she could.

I am not your mommy!!!

[shifttusk]

Last night, I decided to do something a little different. I was getting frustrated after "our" 5th loss in a row via AV (horde = shocker). I just figured, what the heck - lets see what kind of honor comes in with healing instead of dps (you guessed it - I'm a 51point shadow spec priest) I mean, every single NE hunter, rogue and crazy charging boar wants a piece of me anyway... maybe if I throw around more heals, a big old warrior will stand between me and everyone else gunning for the ugly shadow priest.

It was tough... not hitting that shadowform button at the beginning of the round. Matter of fact, I decided right off the bat to let my new pug group know where I stood this round - I burnt a candle for a group fort. This group consisted of several hunters, a lock and a Warlord ranked warrior decked in purples (bingo!) I said, "guys, lets just stick together and follow <big warrior> advances. I'll throw heals." The outcome, I couldn't believe it - we did great (we won!) We'd advance, hunters would drop traps around me. The warrior was cleaning house and everyone even WAITED when I had to drink up. Occasionally, I'd ranked 1 dot up a target to +15% shadow damage (to our locks glee) turn on Imp V.E and heal bomb our warrior. I got more tells saying "wow, nice heals!" I think healing really throws people off - and they appreciate it.

Overall, it was a very satisfying match. I'll say, I got very slightly less honor as I would normally spamming SW:P and MB's everywhere but I'll tell you a few things. 1.) I didn't die once. Woe be the sneaky rogue that hit the 1st frost trap at my feet.... pets and arrows all over him real quick. 2.) I was surprised how effective my heals were - maybe it my +dam/heal EQ or maybe I just don't heal enough to realize? 3.) Our tank got #2 and one hunter got #3 in kills. 4.) I got #1 in heals (by far). 5.) Again, we won and I had a blast.

I'm not saying everyone will (should) play like this - heck most pugs just want to do their own thing and not work together. Maybe I just got lucky with the right group and a good combination of classes.

Thankfuly other try this. I wonder if the people whining about no heals are the same people that dont sweep mobs that agro on heal in a dungeon. Quite literaly a hunter or a rogue are ideal for this in both situations. stun/cc + big hits to deter the person and in the case of an instance i can sweep a healer from across the room with distracting+arcane+multi

[rgirty]

This thread is hilarious. I never imagined people get this excited over someone healing them. I'll give the reasons I think healers don't heal as much as some think they should in bg's.

1. they are tired of it.
2. as soon as they start, the opposition mass targets them for sudden death.
3. apparently (not verified by me) you don't get as much honor.
4. and this is why I stopped taking my priest to bg's. In AV when you pull 2 or 3 warmasters and only tank 1 of them guess what happens when I toss a few heals on? The extra warmaster takes me out. Then the tank says, great heals nub..LOL.

I ran av twice with my priest post patch, died 10+ times during each run and each run was a 20 minute win. Warmasters were brutal, sitting in the gy waiting for the timer is not much fun at all.

After that, I logged onto my wife's fire mage and haven't logged onto my priest in a good long while. I can take the mage to AV and never die once while finishing in the top 5 nearly every time and racking up the honor. I do die occasionally if its a turtle, or from the WM aoe but it is much much more entertaining than getting killed as a priest, then yelled at for being dead.

I don't get worked up about it tho, but it is pretty funny.

[Chickensoup]

in my experiences healing in PvP this is why a person doesnt get heals:

1) the guy calling out for heals wouldnt piss on you if you were on fire
2) healing a guy who charges into a big group of others is a complete waste of my time
3) you are trying to take out another guy by yourself when the main focus of the group is elsewhere

I really don't think most people who play healers are as opposed to healing as people would have you believe. some wont be very good healers (retnoobs, full feral druids, enhancement shamen) but will still toss them out when possible. Its just one of those things that a lot of people dont notice and dont appreciante.

Healing is pretty much the same thing in all MMO's (it just happens to be tons easier in this one). It's tedious (wack-a-mole), repetative (healing druids have a choice of 3 heals.........2 if you dont use regrowth which is horrible for mana efficiency, paladins have 2.......3 with holy shock i suppose) and in almost all cases 100% thankless. When i used to play a more PvP oriented MMO (Shadowbane if anyones ever heard of it) my guild had a 90% or so retention rate of healers who joined our guild. Why? They were treated like everyone else BUT where specifically thanked after successful PvP encounters and we did not blame them for losses (unless it was warrented sometimes healers just didnt do their job) People would be supprised what a little sincerity does (in games and in RL too!)

Want me to heal you? prove you are not going to play like you are playing for yourself.

1) follow the objective (this goes for world PvP too)
2) dont play hero
3) help out the healer every once in a while
4) (not mandatory but it helps) tell the healer ahead of time you got their back if they have yours
5) thank them if the healer actually helped you during the course of the PvP , if you helped them there is a good chance they will be thankful to you as well

:sinister:

[Dutchgrass]

ya get just as many HKs if not more from healing everyone.

"L2bandage" is a cop out for chump healers who stand next to me when I die. Ya can't bandage while you fight.

Earn you heals first by proving you can make use of the additional time you survive. Then at least give a slight inclination you might actually make an effort to keep the healer from getting killed.
Then you might receive heals, assuming the healer isn't utterly sick from playing 'whack a bar' during raiding.

When I play my healer in BGs, I only heal key targets that seem as if they can affect the outcome of the battle.
The rest can eat, bandage, pot or wait 30 seconds at the GY.

[dreamofwrx]

hi, new to this forum, but ive been leveling my holy speced pally up to be my main recently hes 55. comments on the pvp healing, as i love to pvp, and i believe healing is a very important roll to win a game. I will heal as much as i can, and make it a priority for myself playing bg's. Most of the time i do not get praise, which sucks, but everyonce and a while i will get the "your awesome ty so much" i also buff and cleanse whenever i can, i do this cause my "main" is a hunter and i know how frustrating it is to be out of mana and have a dot on you. That being said, alliance if you want to win ab and wsg...heal your dps even if they dont thank you. The only exception is if they just suck and arent doing any damage.

[shifttusk]

Well heres a guide to hunters to get heals in BG's (this applies to raids and PvE really too) it seems to have helped me out:

1) Be in the top (2/5/10) in KB's or DMG often times I find alot of the healers to be a bit more mature players (not kissing ass here just personal experience) and will tend to toss a heal to a person they think may have a great impact on a situation.
2) Stop being selfish and put the frost trap by the healer. Him being able to kite off a mele >>> you freezing a rogue if he keeps you up the rogue should be do-able too.
3) Don't burn your SS or WS on that rogue either defend the healer. He can provide some light dps/cc and that 6000 point blue bar under his name = 10000 health for you and your team.
4) Don't put yourself in situations that are just going to get you and your new healer buddy wtfpwned. This means no playing hero, don't go chasing an opponenet back towards a held node because wtf i got heals. This also means use your FD to get out of big casts and don't whine if you die after taking on 5 dudes.
5) Thank the guy. He's sitting there following you around. He does not have to. He could sit and find some player in greens and light him up with smite or moonfire etc, he is doing you a favor by hitting the +h buttons on you.
6) If a healer wants to spec shadow or use smite or go bear stop whining about it theres no where that is says a priest must spec holy/disc and heal you.

[Magikhat]

All I do is heal in BG's

[Dynafrack]

^^ See it's replys this this that just scream "Dude, roll a healer and heal yourself"

I should roll a healer and heal myself because other healers don't do their job? If you're in shadowform I don't care. If you're not shadowspec...heal. If you're a hybrid that's another story. I'm primary talking about priests.

Guess what that healer next to you was probably doing more DPS than you were and on top of that was healing when he/she could.

Guess, what. No ...and...no :thumbsup:

[Serrat]

4. and this is why I stopped taking my priest to bg's. In AV when you pull 2 or 3 warmasters and only tank 1 of them guess what happens when I toss a few heals on? The extra warmaster takes me out. Then the tank says, great heals nub..LOL.


i wont even heal anymore on bad pulls, as like you said, the first thing the warmasters(in my case the marshalls)do is charge the healer.

from healing in BG's ive gotten quiet a few messages from people ive kept up and running.

the thanks is good, but tbh the best part is keeping that warrior(or insert other class here)up against 4 or 5 guys and cleaving them apart.

the biggest part of healing i find is seeing whos worth healing because 1/2 the people out there aint worth it, nothing worse than wasting a heal on a warrior only for him to use that heal as his escape route instead of fighting on, next time i just let them win a free rez instead.

edit: came in to this thread on the 3rd page so didnt see the original post til now

"Start HEALING!

don't wait for an ask.

don't let teamates die.

don't use BG for your " a chance to do something besides heal"

don't tell others "if you want a heal, roll a healer class"

JUST HEAL!"
ahahaha omg, you would be the first person who wouldnt get a heal.

[rgirty]

I don't really expect any thanks, but I laugh out loud when someone yells "great healing nub" after a WM takes me out. I just decided to not pvp with my priest, honestly if I did I could get almost the same amount of honor sitting in the tunnel as I could running the entire instance. Otherwise I just spend 90% of the time staring at the 30 second timer.

[dreamofwrx]

Well heres a guide to hunters to get heals in BG's (this applies to raids and PvE really too) it seems to have helped me out:

1) Be in the top (2/5/10) in KB's or DMG often times I find alot of the healers to be a bit more mature players (not kissing ass here just personal experience) and will tend to toss a heal to a person they think may have a great impact on a situation.
2) Stop being selfish and put the frost trap by the healer. Him being able to kite off a mele >>> you freezing a rogue if he keeps you up the rogue should be do-able too.
3) Don't burn your SS or WS on that rogue either defend the healer. He can provide some light dps/cc and that 6000 point blue bar under his name = 10000 health for you and your team.
4) Don't put yourself in situations that are just going to get you and your new healer buddy wtfpwned. This means no playing hero, don't go chasing an opponenet back towards a held node because wtf i got heals. This also means use your FD to get out of big casts and don't whine if you die after taking on 5 dudes.
5) Thank the guy. He's sitting there following you around. He does not have to. He could sit and find some player in greens and light him up with smite or moonfire etc, he is doing you a favor by hitting the +h buttons on you.
6) If a healer wants to spec shadow or use smite or go bear stop whining about it theres no where that is says a priest must spec holy/disc and heal you.

im not sure if your implying i dont know how to play my class.....in av i usually do get healed (if iim playing d) in wsg forget about heals let alone attempts by anyone to get the f-ing flag. Ab sometimes....usually i am in the top three damage on alliance, and i dont even have all blues. (some pvp gear, stormpike rep gear and a couple greens) Some of your comments imply that a healer would follow me, which is why this thread is started. This frustration is what caused me to roll holy pally, i was tired of getting ganked and hamstinged by warriors or dot to death by locks. i mean a lock doesnt even have to touch me he only has to be in range and instant death sentence.....lock=easy mode so now i cleanse, heal, buff, and survive...i find that i can actually defeat all melee classes, and i bubble and run away from casters to someone that can kill them. I agree more healers should heal. And im starting the trend.

[Heloxian]

I agree more healers should heal. And im starting the trend.

good for you, now come back after 1 year of healing and say that again when ppl are screaming at u to "HEAL NUB111ONE"

[shifttusk]

im not sure if your implying i dont know how to play my class.....in av i usually do get healed (if iim playing d) in wsg forget about heals let alone attempts by anyone to get the f-ing flag. Ab sometimes....usually i am in the top three damage on alliance, and i dont even have all blues. (some pvp gear, stormpike rep gear and a couple greens) Some of your comments imply that a healer would follow me, which is why this thread is started. This frustration is what caused me to roll holy pally, i was tired of getting ganked and hamstinged by warriors or dot to death by locks. i mean a lock doesnt even have to touch me he only has to be in range and instant death sentence.....lock=easy mode so now i cleanse, heal, buff, and survive...i find that i can actually defeat all melee classes, and i bubble and run away from casters to someone that can kill them. I agree more healers should heal. And im starting the trend.


not a l2play at you at all. Just my general ideas tha thunters should do. If you're getting heals you probably do some of them.

[dreamofwrx]

not a l2play at you at all. Just my general ideas tha thunters should do. If you're getting heals you probably do some of them.



cool no hard feelings, i def see hunters that dont know what the heck they are doing....cheers


never had people yell the noob thing at me for healing...i dont know if i do a good job or people arent expecting it, but yes i will always heal a battleground, even after a year. Its why i rolled teh character. To heal and not be squishy, and the buffs too.:sunny: :wave:

[Ganit]

I find that as a lock I can survive without heals in BGs pugs to some extent. Health stones and SL really shine here. It’s really sweet to pop a HS when a rogue or warrior think they have you and than drain life them to death. But like people have said, when 5 people are attacking you there is no amount of healing that will save your hide.

I play in the mornings with pugs. We win 9 out 10 AB and WSG(horde side). I really don’t expect to get healed much in pugs. I do say thanks every time I get heal. After all they just saved my life!!!

I hate hunters in BGs. I just hate the fact that they sit back and shoot at me and the rest of my team. It really really bugs me. So I charge them, fear them, and dot the crap out of them. It’s funny to see hunters freeze when you’re to close for them to shoot at you. They don’t know what to do, this brings joy to my life. This is why I don’t expect to get healed.

My bro and I team up in BGs when we are both on. He rolls a shammy, and is my personal healer. It works pretty nice. I give him a HS and he gives me heals. Together we can kill a lot of stuff and cap a few flags.

I have played a few BGs at night vs premades. It’s a sight to behold when a warrior or rogue gets a few heals and shields. They just rip stuff apart. They to crazy damage and paladins are hard as hell to kill. Anyway a few heals would be nice but all and all if people work together I think you can win most BGs.

[EdvinMedvind]

L2Bandage.

Difficult with dots you know.

I don't expect heals and don't take it personal when a healer is standing idle next to me while I die from a dot. If they don't want to win it's their choice.

[Aerath]

Sure - I'll toss a rejuv when people are dotted up, or if I see the Recently Bandaged debuff.

I won't toss one to idiots that don't move out of Galv's Whirlwind (it's ridiculously easy to time with the new casting bar Blizzard implemented) or aren't in combat but just standing there.

[MellanCholera]

I like healing because I like winning.

However,

In any BG, whether PCs or NPCs, healing is like pointing a huge beacon at yourself shouting "Hey Kill me first!"

If I heal on a marhsall pull in AV, it's instant death for me and no heals for anyone, because no one bothers properly pulling only one using a hunter/warrior combo, and no one bothers tanking the extra ones, they just let them kill all the healers, then scream for heals.

If I heal in any BG, once in a great while people will look out for me, usually they ignore me and I die after one heal.

If I heal a flag runner, half of them see a group of the enemy and charge right into them trying to fight 3 or 4 at once, instead of , oh, i don't know, running. I don't even bother trying to keep them alive at that point. Those are usually the ones complaining.

But I still heal since it is necessary. Unless the person has proven they are more of a hinderance than help.

Oh and I never heal people that ask for heals. Not only because they piss me off, but because I find the people that complain about heals are usually the worst players out there. :thumbsup:

[MellanCholera]

yelled at for being dead.

oh yeah forgot that one, that's another perk! :tongue:

[MellanCholera]

the idea of helping the priest to get the heal later is interesting- although it really should be about the team..

winner!

Healing others is about the team, i.e. the healer should keep you from dying.
Keeping the healer from dying (so they can heal) is "interesting" but not about the team.

I think I know why you don't get heals

[Luzifiara]

I am playing a fullheal (48 Points in restoration und 3 in enhancment for gettign more mana ^^) shaman on gilneas-eu. If i am not under attack i heal everything round me what is in range. But if i am under attack i need to do more then 75% of heal on my own body. Just because you are not looking for the two rouges who are attacking me.

If you are defending me or /thanks /bow to me u'll get eventually more heals then others round about you.

I am burning out manapotions in a pve raid, but i am not willing to do more then trinket regneration or mana tide totem to get more mana again in battlegrounds.

Just be friendly to your healers and do not flame on them if you are dieing...

I just see that i am mostly the only full-heal specced healer in an battleground like wsg. You got an idea where the healer is when you die while zerging in the middle of the field? Yes, I am holding the flag alive and nothing other then.

;)

Luzifiara Level 60 Shaman of the Horde on Gilneas-EU, Guild DoomedWarriors

[Tollin]

last night i played my first AB as a priest (lvl 39), and I am specced FULL shadow.

However, I followed a warrior and a paladin around and even though I did do some dps stuff, SW:P and VE, and MF. Mostly all i did was heal those two and guess what? We would rip through people. It wasn't until there was a HUGE zerg of Horde, 7 of em, that we all died but we took 5 of em with us.

I found that I enjoyed healing and after a few mins of them seeing me trying to heal them and keep them alive i ended up having people watching my back until at one point a whole group of us were standing at the blacksmith working together as a team. It was nice.

[Claritondeus]

As a Druid, if you see me in bear form, it is because someone is attacking me. In caster form, I'm ridiculously squishy. I can drop to bear form, equip my warden staff, and have 10k armor to stay alive until help arrives

I always heal, unless I'm running the flag, but if no one is protecting me, I have to look out for myself.

Once I get in bear I have a couple options: Feral Charge a caster to stop casting and stun them long enough to pop out and root them then pop into cheeta and race back to the group that I was healing, heal them really quick, then get back in bear to Feral Charge that caster that is now coming after me again, or just kill whatever is attacking me by myself. Or if it is a rogue or warrior I can just fight them until backup arrives, then Bash, shift out, root, heal myself, and heal the help, take the hk and move on.

Trust me, I'd rather heal the warrior / rogue combo at the front lines, cause they are far more effective at killing than I, but I've gotta defend myself too.

I guess what I'm tryin to say is that if you see a druid in Bear form, dont automatically assume that he's some non-healing druid and call him a nub. Chances are he's just defending himself after getting noticed healing by either a NPC or the other team.

*Edit: And mangle feral speccd druids in cat form, well, they are killer dps, and having them stealth around and pick off Casters / Healers, then maybe throw out a few HoT's before going back into offensive mode is in the best interest of the team.

[unbdm]

LOL, I'm not going to read this thread, only the OP... you have to be kidding? Us healers live to serve... support classes are there for you, and if we're not, please gripe at us to let us know! I'm sure you are the most important thing going on anyway!

[Magikhat]

Start HEALING!

don't wait for an ask.

don't let teamates die.

don't use BG for your " a chance to do something besides heal"

don't tell others "if you want a heal, roll a healer class"

JUST HEAL!


STFU. I fish in AB and AV because of people like you.

[xyle]

I've been a pure healing specced/geared Priest since shortly after I hit 60, and I do like healing in PvP. I've found that healing has incerdible power - as long as there's also teamwork involved. In fact, one of my proudest moments was when me and a resto Druid, the 2 "weakest" classes in PvP, killed about 4 more or less equally geared Hordes simply by good teamwork.

Even though I do like healing in PvP, there's NOTHING I hate more than people telling me to heal. Nothing. Whispering me and asking me why I didn't do this or that or telling me what to do will get you: a) completely removed from my healing priority b) a withering retort c) on my ignore list d) all of the above. I haven't read all the posts, but I definitely agree with everyone who said that HEALERS NEED PROTECTION. As a Priest with no shadow form and no DPS, my only means of defense are PW:F and inner fire, which keep me alive maybe a few seconds longer, and shield, which has a cooldown. I would say fear as well, but since basically most of the Horde players I face are either Undead or have some other means of countering fear, it's not even worth the mana it costs. Either way, these defenses may keep me alive a few seconds longer, but with a Rogue stunning me, a Warrior putting mortal strike on me, a Mage counterspelling me (you get the point) it's impossible for me to even heal myself, let alone YOU.

Running around in healing gear in battlegrounds is equivalent to carrying a neon sign over your head that says "FREE HK HERE, COME AND GET ME!!!" I've noticed many, many times that when I'm standing in a group of people from my team, I'm the first one targeted. I've seen many players doing this repeatedly, and in battlegrounds when Horde know what they're doing (read: most of the time), I often ended up having the highest deathcount.

I've gotten so completely fed up with obnoxious behavior from people and with spending most of my battleground time in ghost form that I just don't PvP in pugs anymore. Period. If it's not a premade with people I know, I don't PvP. Seeing how there's a general shortage of healers around and I was one of the few holy/disc Priests on the server who took interest in PvP and were trusted enough to know what they're doing, I could get into most "known" premades quite easily, so no loss for me. But pugs who think they "deserve" healing have lost a healer. It makes a world of difference when people are paying attention to your health and go out of their way to your help when they see someone attacking you. it also makes me feel a lot more inclined to heal them.

None of this is relevant to me anyway now because I've quit WoW, but I get bored a lot so I post here. And I just felt this was an issue I wanted to express my opinion about because it used to annoy me quite a lot to the point of me completely giving up on PvP with randoms. I did respec shadow the day I quit and went to PvP in pugs just to spite people who hate seeing a shadow priest run around and doing DPS. I didn't even like it as much as healing, but I guess it was a sort of a general "revenge" on all the morons :rolleyes:

[rgirty]

Why did you quit, if I may ask.

[xyle]

Mainly because my degree takes up about 90% my time and I can't afford to slack off anymore. It's bad enough that I spend so much posting on these forums when I should be doing something else! In fact, all the typing I did for my previous wall of text should have been done in a lab report instead.... :undecided:

[Mirinda]

ya get just as many HKs if not more from healing everyone.

"L2bandage" is a cop out for chump healers who stand next to me when I die. Ya can't bandage while you fight.

And a bandage does no good when you're covered with DoTs. People naturally get frustrated in battlegrounds when they are getting killed over and over. Lately it's been rare that Alliance PUGs in AB and WSG have included any healers at all, unless it's paladins who don't want to heal anybody.

My until-recently 29 priest was fun in BGs, more WSG than AB. It's so easy for people to get too spread out in AB. I can try to follow a tank, but eventually the Horde swarms me, or I run OOM. Rez and have the often long run back to the action. I may rez near a node where nothing's happening, or up at Trollbane when the Horde's gy camping. Fun time's when the Horde hunters and locks sit outside the fence and target rezzers.

To me it's strange how eager so many teammates are to run away from me, a real live priest in a 20-29 BG. Doesn't anybody want help?

[rgirty]

And a bandage does no good when you're covered with DoTs. People naturally get frustrated in battlegrounds when they are getting killed over and over. Lately it's been rare that Alliance PUGs in AB and WSG have included any healers at all, unless it's paladins who don't want to heal anybody.

My until-recently 29 priest was fun in BGs, more WSG than AB. It's so easy for people to get too spread out in AB. I can try to follow a tank, but eventually the Horde swarms me, or I run OOM. Rez and have the often long run back to the action. I may rez near a node where nothing's happening, or up at Trollbane when the Horde's gy camping. Fun time's when the Horde hunters and locks sit outside the fence and target rezzers.

To me it's strange how eager so many teammates are to run away from me, a real live priest in a 20-29 BG. Doesn't anybody want help?

Well, for the most part pug bg's aren't organized. In ab you will have these issues unless you make an agreement with 2-3 more people to guard a node and keep them healed. Which IMO sucks, stand around and look at a flag for 10-15 mins and occasionally kill someone is mind numbing. Thats probably why few do it and alliance lose a lot, but thats another topic.

You'll have more luck in AV which for the most part not much different than PvE. tank/heal/dps. Or tank and spank, unless you get multiple WMS then you are in trouble.

[Idol]

Healing is hard in BGs, mostly because of people like me. If I see an enemy healer throwing heals about, I cut him in half. Very rarely will someone try and stop me.

So, if I recieve heals, I protect my healers. I'm screwed without a healer, the healer is screwed without me. Keeping him alive keeps me alive, it's common sense.

In short, if you want heals, protect your healers!

[jonba]

I agree with post directly above...I am a shadow priest... and i always look for other healers that are actually healing... then i pwn them just to discourage them from doing in the future. If i keep seeing that priest running around, i make a point of focusing on him/her... MB, SW:P, Dispell (shield), Silence, MB possibly fear... FTW

Even though i am shadow, most of the time i am not in shadow form... so i can pop a flash heal on some deserving teammate. In pugs i dont end up doing too much healing for a couple of reasons.
1. as said before (manytimes)... no protection.
2. disorganized... i am not going to waste mana on a person trying to solo 8 people.

I do put heals in a pug when A) we are defending a node/flag. B) the person recieving the heals is not trying to #2 solo 8 alliance, and any time a little healing will save some one from dying... I.E low health with some dots on them.

[Findariel]

The big problems with healing (as paladin) imo are:

1. Range. Healing skills have only a short range.
2. The group/party window. You only see 5 out of 10/15 players on it. No possibility to see the hp bars of the rest, even if they're standing close to you.
3. Long cast times. When you start casting on an ally at 70% health, he/she's often dead once you're finally done casting. It takes ages.

As a former guildwars player, those are crippling features for a healer for me.

[Amiral]

The big problems with healing (as paladin) imo are:

1. Range. Healing skills have only a short range.
2. The group/party window. You only see 5 out of 10/15 players on it. No possibility to see the hp bars of the rest, even if they're standing close to you.
3. Long cast times. When you start casting on an ally at 70% health, he/she's often dead once you're finally done casting. It takes ages.

As a former guildwars player, those are crippling features for a healer for me.

regarding the second note, you can enable nameplates to show on all things (default v key), and you can drag a group from raid window onto your screen.

[Anyndra]

Little off topic, but for me v only shows nameplates on hostiles. Is there a way to make it show friendlys too? Would make bg healing a lot easier, now that my priest is holy specced and healing is pretty much only thing I'm useful for.

[Amiral]

Little off topic, but for me v only shows nameplates on hostiles. Is there a way to make it show friendlys too? Would make bg healing a lot easier, now that my priest is holy specced and healing is pretty much only thing I'm useful for.

a switch for friendly/hostile was added a few patches ago, dont remember how to though, should be in patch-notes.

[Suave]

The big problems with healing (as paladin) imo are:

1. Range. Healing skills have only a short range.
2. The group/party window. You only see 5 out of 10/15 players on it. No possibility to see the hp bars of the rest, even if they're standing close to you.
3. Long cast times. When you start casting on an ally at 70% health, he/she's often dead once you're finally done casting. It takes ages.

As a former guildwars player, those are crippling features for a healer for me.
^^ A paladin complaining about heal cast times? Try it as a druid :P

[maladroit2000]

As a druid I am usually happy to stand and heal. But sometimes I just want to fight and I won't heal - perhaps I came to this battleground to melee and not heal - completely my choice.

[trudelle]

Little off topic, but for me v only shows nameplates on hostiles. Is there a way to make it show friendlys too? Would make bg healing a lot easier, now that my priest is holy specced and healing is pretty much only thing I'm useful for.

The new function to see your parties or allies health bars is iirc alt+v, if thats not it it is ctrl+v. One will show you allies, the other enemies, though of course it only shows so many and those in range.

[MellanCholera]

The ctrl-v and shift-v are not on by default. You have to go to key bindings and set them. I forgot the exact name of the ability but it's near the V for seeing enemy health bars. But the new ability to see only friendly health bars, or friendly and non friendly was added you just have to map them to ctrl-v and shift-v, or whatever else you want.

makes healing BGs much easier.

then only thing I notice is zoning resets it, so if one BG ends and another begins, I have to hit shift V twice (once to cancel once to enable) to bring up everone's health bars again.

[Grendo]

2. The group/party window. You only see 5 out of 10/15 players on it. No possibility to see the hp bars of the rest, even if they're standing close to you.There are a ton of mods that deal with this, as well as the raid window for dragging as you see fit as mentioned above. There are also mods out there that help you heal more effectively, such as Healbot.

3. Long cast times. When you start casting on an ally at 70% health, he/she's often dead once you're finally done casting. It takes ages.1.5 second flash, 2.5second (2 with talents) holy light is considered extremely quick comparitively. Also, we have a small instant heal in holy shock thats instant (again, assuming spec). Add in concentration aura and spiritual focus for no spell interruption aside from silencing type abilities or death.

[rgirty]

I find that tossing a few renews on the people on the front lines, then running into the fray with PW:S up then launching a fear bomb has good results. In a few seconds all the feared opponents will come back. I renew the shield and then begin to holy nova. I can get 7 or 8 holy nova's in which heal my teammates and damage the enemy all at the same time.

I have found my survival rate to be better with the holy nova strategy. As a priest, I get targeted if I'm healing. If I am tossing heals all around I get targeted pretty quickly. If I run in and holy nova I can usually take out at least a few of them, swaying the battle to our advantage and perhaps survive. This works great on AB flags, not at all in AV really, other than gy flags like SP.

[Chemm]

Start HEALING!

don't wait for an ask.

don't let teamates die.

don't use BG for your " a chance to do something besides heal"

don't tell others "if you want a heal, roll a healer class"

JUST HEAL!

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I'm sure this has been said
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Hey buddy, as a shaman if I throw 1 heal on a warrior that is decently geared the group of 2-3 turn to me right away and just truck through me, and why tell a priest how to do there job when all they will ever do is heal, there in raids, heal, 5 mans heal, and now in pvp you want them to heal? come on give them a break maybe they didnt realize the commitment to being someones healbot...

[Heloxian]

Start HEALING!

don't wait for an ask.

don't let teamates die.

don't use BG for your " a chance to do something besides heal"

don't tell others "if you want a heal, roll a healer class"

JUST HEAL!


my last AV run last night: every1 stop @ SH and just keep clicking their pewpewlazer-buttons, it was like 20 horde vs 10-12 allis. Every1 just standing and waiting to get picked off by the hunters/mages/locks.
I started to heal every1 but every1 dies 3 mins later cuz i ran out of mana, all run back to the same spot and keep doing the same and we loose the game.

When do they invent brains for DPS? All it took was probably 2 warrs charging in and doing mass-fear and we broke them...

Something tells me the topicstarter has no idea what a healer does.

[evilwizard]

I play a fully resto druid in 30-39 BG's (mainly AB now)
And I either wander around in cat and ninja a cap or two and generaly pratise dieing at the hands of locks and hunters. (Hiberante sucks and my entangle is all ways interrupted)
Or I'm in full heal mode and pray I can dish out all my mana in healing before the rogue gank squad arrives at my back. Which I don't mind as this means I'll have a full mana bar in 30 seconds or less.

:rolleyes:

Anyways healing is fun and doesn't involve me trying to keep pace with all the combatants spinning round and jumping everywhere.

[Amurko]

Well, it may be easier for classes who don't have to shapeshift..

But for feral druids and shadow priests, you really ought to make the fact that you need healing known. Even with the aid of addons, it takes valuable time away from the battle when I have to find out who needs healing and out of those people, who is actually within reasonable range of me. Simply put, healing doesn't take a lot of effort but having to find people who need healing AND heal them (before they die) is a lot of work and not worth the effort for the previously two mentioned classes and specs.

So if you need healing, C O M M U N I C A T E and I'll guarantee you'll receive more heals than you're currently getting.

No, you don't need to /tell the healer or type a message.. simply use a /healme macro, jump a few times, run in circles, or anything to catch the healer's attention.

[Xmcdaniel]

Keep people off of me, and maybe I will. :thumbsup:

Seriously, though, I don't think I've come across someone that can heal who doesn't do it in BGs. I've even see druids break cat form mid-fight to heal someone.

Have you ever played a healer in BGs? Most people, especially rogues, hunters, and warriors (At least to in my experience), come for us first. Its extremly difficult to heal when you're dead. :wink: I've never seen anyone try to kill someone whos attacking me, though. Then again I've never been in a pre-made, either.

Now that I think about it, I need a friend whos a hunter to lay some frost traps next to me when Im healing.

LOL I received a heal last night for the first time in 2 weeks, and I BG everyday. I think it was from a druid or something. I was flabbergasted ...didn't know what to say. Usually any interaction between me and a priest is the priest opening up the trade window without prompting me and /w "water"...lol. If I give the water I get fort buff and if I say "ask nicely" it usually ends up with no one getting anything. And this is in the 40's level where you'd think priests and other healing classes would have at least rudimentary knowledge of their role.

[Xmcdaniel]

I'll spare you the same comment I spare lvl 51 hunters bugging me in AV...

L2Bandage.

Seriously, unless you pay someone's $15 (or eu equiv.), you don't decide how other people play. And most people who enter the BGs are not Healers, as that's just a consistent corpse run.
Healers who do enter use the BGs to do something other than watch 40 health bars.

If you get a heal in a BG, you deserve one. If not, you'll res with full health in 30 seconds max again. That healer just got you to full health @ the cost of 0 mana. Can't be any more cost effective.

This is actually a wonderful suggestion. In fact, I never expect heals in BG's, especially as a mage, because in a lot of cases if I'm taking damage, I get burned down so fast that there's no way they could heal me without wasting their mana anyway. If I have some downtime...I bandage or sit and eat/drink.

[tagkc]

LOL I received a heal last night for the first time in 2 weeks, and I BG everyday. I think it was from a druid or something. I was flabbergasted ...didn't know what to say. Usually any interaction between me and a priest is the priest opening up the trade window without prompting me and /w "water"...lol. If I give the water I get fort buff and if I say "ask nicely" it usually ends up with no one getting anything. And this is in the 40's level where you'd think priests and other healing classes would have at least rudimentary knowledge of their role.

I get the occasional priest asking for water, but 90% of the time, it's the hunters demanding it.

[owlx]

I just started a shaman. I love having the option of healing myself and others. It might be easier for a hybrid class since they can mix it up too. If a priest wants to do damage, they have to use up mana an then they have nothing left to heal. Pallies, Shamans, and Druids can melee a bit better and often have some mana in reserve to help those in need.

I'm only in the 10-19 bracket right now. I've spent a lot of time there with my twinks, but, this has been some of the most fun I've had in awile. Everytime I heal I get "OMG thx" or "You F'ing rock, I'm guarding you"

I find it a lot easier to get people to follow you if they know they will get heals. Having been a twink and having a well geared high level character, I know that the players who have got the best gear have the potential to do the best. I inspect everyone before the match begins. It makes more sense for me to keep the well geard players alive than me, or to try and out damage them. It simply a better investment of mana.

Everyone pays their $15 and has the right to play as they like. In BG's it's about winning. In order to win, then do what's best for the team. If your a priest in epics then it's probably not the best to heal a hunter in greens/blues. If you got a warrior in full tier 3 on your squad then you might want to back him up.

[mesonm]

I get the occasional priest asking for water, but 90% of the time, it's the hunters demanding it.

I love how you characterize priests as 'asking' and hunters 'demanding'...

ROFL

[tagkc]

I love how you characterize priests as 'asking' and hunters 'demanding'...

ROFL

You are very correct, that was not what I intended to say or imply (that's what I get for multi-tasking at work).

To restate what I meant to say is "I get the occasional priest asking for water, but 90% of the time, it's the hunters REQUESTING it.

[Trepidation]

There is a difference between doing what is best for the team and being told what is best for the team.

[Icefrost]

There is a difference between doing what is best for the team and being told what is best for the team.
/signed
And not just in BG's, I might add.

[earindur]

I love how you characterize priests as 'asking' and hunters 'demanding'...

ROFL

it always amazes me how rude and abrupt the majority of the hunters i come across are. as a warlock i always try to be very nice to the charitable mage, offering a healthstone as trade or even a soulstone if i want alot of water / food. But the hunter, either suffering from short man syndrome (About his mana bar) or sheer annoyance of being forgotten always blasts out a /P water ffs.

even in instances too,

me: /w mage could i possibly trouble you for some water when you get a chance ? :) ill give you a [Major Healthstone]

as apposed to the

Hunter: /P ME HUNTER ME NEED MANA, GIMME WATER MAGE AND HEALER DONT YOU DARE FORGET ABOUT MY PET OR ILL SHOUT ABOUT IT IN PARTY CHAT!!1!

might just be my experience, as i dont party with hunters much. IM sure there are millions of lovely hunters out there so please dont think im stereotyping.

[owlx]

That's why I'm really enjoying my Shaman

Nobody expects to get heals from me, so when I toss out a heal I am practically worshiped as a god. The same could be said for Pallies, but, they are always getting requests for blessings. If people want any of my buffs, then need to stick with me and stay in range of my totems.

I've just about finished getting my gear for the 10-19 bracket. I already have a decent set of healing gear to strap on when the need arises. Probably stay in this bracket another couple weeks to fill up on wsg tokens and move Hamshamwich up to the 20-29 bracket for some AB action.

[tagkc]

That's why I'm really enjoying my Shaman

Nobody expects to get heals from me, so when I toss out a heal I am practically worshiped as a god. The same could be said for Pallies, but, they are always getting requests for blessings. If people want any of my buffs, then need to stick with me and stay in range of my totems.

I've just about finished getting my gear for the 10-19 bracket. I already have a decent set of healing gear to strap on when the need arises. Probably stay in this bracket another couple weeks to fill up on wsg tokens and move Hamshamwich up to the 20-29 bracket for some AB action.

I LOVE stealth healers!! When a shammy, priest or druid throws out a heal on me, I will do my best to chase them down and offer water, food and an AI buff in appreciation.

[owlx]

I LOVE stealth healers!!

It's nice to find a pocket in the terrain where people can't see me and I'm still in range to heal. The only thing that sucks is my relitively low mana pool. I often find myself oom and still wanting to heal those in need. All the low level stuff lacks combinations of stats so it's either bonus to mana pool, or bonus to amount healed. I think when I level it will be a bit easier to manage.

I've been getting better at conserving mana. It's kinda hard when I'm so used to dumping rage as soon as I get it. :D

[milqueman]

[QUOTE=timebomb;3839356]
4. Don’t be stupid and reckless because you saw a priest around.

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I love this statement. I can't remember the amount of times I saw a Warrior and/or rogue charge heroically into battle when they see priest/druid/shamen/healadin standing next to them. Problem is there are 5+ of the enemy they just charged into. This quickly results in the Warrior and/or Rogue dying soon followed by the healer. Then there both standing in the GY staring at each other in corperal form. Which results in the Warrior and/or rogue saying "Why didn't you heal me, noob!?"

[Serrat]

man this thread is still alive and kicking:shocked:

personally i dont mind when warriors see me and decide they can charge it to 5 plus people, many occasions the warriors has either carved them all up or at least took 3 or 4 out before we both bite the bullet.

though of course it all depends really on what classes that 5 alliance is made up off, of course if 2 of the 5 is trinketing mages then doesnt matter what kind of healer you have the warrior aint gonna stand up to it.

on the side point of buffs, im pretty glad noone ever really asks for totems, i mean i normally stick them down depending on whats happening, but if i started getting demands for totems, like pallys/mages/priest etc get for buffs they can give, id proberbly go nuts.

so dont bother asking me to blow my bloodlust cool down:evil:

[Wiired]

I think healers just need to heal and fight in moderation.

I play a Paladin, so I can heal in BGs. I also love fighting though, which is what I do most. I just played 3 WSGs in a row, healed a little and fought a little, and we won all three.

[Juicyfroot]

man this thread is still alive and kicking:shocked:

personally i dont mind when warriors see me and decide they can charge it to 5 plus people, many occasions the warriors has either carved them all up or at least took 3 or 4 out before we both bite the bullet.


The thing we are missing here is, if I was next to a warrior about to charge into 5 enemies -- That is a blessing to what usually happens lol.

Mages, shamans, and hunters... they see me, and they think they are invincible, but ive got news for ya mages... zerg into 5 melee enemies, and im not wasting my mana to heal you. I had a mage just the other day that charged into the WSG flag room with 5 horde in there, and couldnt believe that i stayed back waiting for the others instead of heal him while he had 5 people on him, i think he got 1 aoe off.

[Erinzell]

((long time lurker, first time poster))

I joined the masses and rolled a belf pally with the expansion. My main is a fire mage-- and after realizing that receiving heals from teammates in BG PUGs are absolutely unreliable at best, I decided a plate-wearing healer might give me a fresh perspective on things.

I am 11-0 in BG PUGs now in the 20-29 bracket, and have topped total healing and honorable kills in each one. The trick to healing (for this pally, anyway) in BGs is throwing one when you can at the beginning, and then convincing others to follow you. It is in the best interest of the healer (assuming they are playing to win, not just farm kills) to keep those around them alive as long as possible.

If I find myself swarmed by 5 members of the alliance, I become even more useful. The BGs are just a simple numbers game, and they are all about resources. Resources in this case being live players dealing damage, or controlling the situation in some way to maintain momentum. If I can "hold aggro" with those 5 players attacking me for ~40 seconds, while i heal myself (holy specced with concentration aura)/bubble/heal myself, I've just provided an even greater resource boost for my team than chasing down the T3 warrior for a heal when he won't stay in range.

If you want a heal, stay near your healer.

If you're a healer, heal the meatshields that take the beats for you ;)
(and the guy thats carrying the flag)

[Serrat]

If you want a heal, stay near your healer.



its amazing how many people dont follow that little bit of advice.

they charge off and then im guessing they are expecting me to chase after them, depending who it is i might do that, but it simply exposes the healer to open attack.

but when i have more than 1 person to look after, like i will have in the arenas, if 1 goes out of range then thats that, because i have 3 other people who are going to need my attention.

[kevagron]

Feral druid here (horde side) point of view here, a couple of reasons I don't heal a lot in BGs in PUGs.

1. (AB) All the noobtards rush ST when we have 4 bases, leaving an alliance rogue/druid to cap undefended bases. I am often either defending an otherwise undefended node or running around like a blue arsed fly recapping our bases behind an alliance druid or rogue.
2. (WSG) No better flag runners than druid, most WSGs I am running backwards and forwards to get flags.
3 (General) Most PUGs don't give a flying fart about looking after healers, as soon as anyone with brains on the other side notices an opposite healer is healing instead of dps'ing then they become a focus fire target for everybody on that team.
4. (General) If I do somehow end up with an assault I do heal until I have just enough mana left to go cat or bear (if someone is on me) because, usually, I'm still in combat so can't drink.
5. (General) if you run into 5 alliance on your own then enjoy your trip to the GY without any heals. I have better use for my mana than wasting it on some idiot who is doomed and probably won't even kill 1 of the opposition before biting the dust. Only exception may be an x9 level warrior or aoe'ing mage who just might do some serious damage if he gets some heals.

The strange thing is, even though I don't think I heal much, I am regularly in the top 3-4 for healing in AB (not WSG) which goes to show how much healing other healers are doing :p