Quickest way to get Honor?

[Sinjid]

My lvl 60 alliance warrior (tank speced) has been tryin to get a GM Longsword ever since the 2.0 patch came out and Im jus halfway. I been doin AV on D and Im getting like 1k honor a day at the most. latly the Alliance has been sucking ALOT of ass in AV. My friends got their GM stuff in like a week from doin AV on D. Am I getting unlucky with crappy Battlegroups or an I doin something wrong?

[JFoobar]

You must not be spending enough time at it I guess. However, I am Horde so I can queue for AVs and get in in under a minute while you probably have 30+ minute queues. In that case, you should be doing AB or WSG in the downtime between AVs.

You just need to do as much BGs as possible. For alliance, the best honor/min would be:

AV > AB > WSG

If I play a fair amount, I can pull down 3-4K honor a day and more on honor weekends. For 1K honor, it takes me about 2-2 1/2 hours.

[Lunaticfish]

I'm Alliance I can also get 3-4k a day just by always getting in all 3 queues....plus maybe I'm lucky or maybe I'm just so powerful it hurts but alliance win 80% of the AVs I've been in. Losing at WSG and AB is 80% though...although a lot of this is because there are so many horde premades.

[Drpep]

If you join ab or wsg as a pug then 90 percent of the time you will get a premade. Thats on alli or horde side. But i have found the quality of premades are not always preimium. Seems to me that alot of premades are becoming just pugs from the same server. They are hoping for an easy win due to the fact that most will afk out when they see that they are all from the same server. Dont know how many "premades" we 3 capped this weekend (and i was pugging) but there was alot.

[Seeo]

A. If you are alliance, always make sure you are in the AV queue

B. If you really need it that badly, tell your guild that you'll be back in a few weeks, then join a PvP preset guild. They win ALL the time.

C. Always make presets for the double honor weekends.

D. Always do BG's between AV queues, a little honor is better than no honor.

E. NEVER /AFK out. A little honor is better than no honor.

F. More AVs > More KBs ... Sometimes we breeze through AV's so fast that I'm stuck on D with only 15 KBs ... The quicker you finish her up, the more honor you'll get. Most of the time just blasting the horde with overwhelming offence is the key.



Basically, honor is a grind just like any other kind of grinding... rinse & repeat. Although it's much much much funner than killing zombies. Especially in a preset where you can swear all you want on Ventrilo.

[Inferna]

It depends on your q times also, instant queues are going to net much more honor obviously. During the AV bonus honor weekend I made close to 8k honor in one day on the Alliance side. If your in a battlegroup with 1 hour av wait times and your alliance and/or have to pug ab and wsg then its going to be a tough battle.

[Gyoza]

well first, killing = honor, so 3 suggestions...

1. Respecc to MS/Arms

2. Buy yourself a big, slow 2h with as high dmg as you can get (crystal spiked maul is pretty good.)

3. buy a couple of +str/agility armor pieces... Saphiron Scale boots (put a +agility chant on them too) and Wyrmslayer Spaulders should help out.

AV especially is a casters game, so your really high armor and + def will do very little to keep you alive. You just have to charge, and pound them as hard as you can, and pray that you kill them before they kill you.

You also want to be as close to the fight as possible at all times. Sitting on D in AV can get you some good honor, but there is basically 10-15 mins of you just sitting in the base waiting for the enemy to show up. Best way to do it is to rush SHGY, fight there until the gy is capped by horde (i am guessing you are alliance) then move back to SPGY, fight there until horde cap it, then move back to base and defend van. That way you are in the middle of the fighting at all times and can get at least residual honor from all the killing going on around you.

it's really hard as a warrior, and you will die a lot and often. get used to that part.

then, as the rest said.... either get into a premade wsg/ab team or pound AV for as long and as hard as possible, get ur sword, respecc back.

[rgirty]

I'm going to echo a few things here. But add my take, a few might not agree with the "morality" of this however I have tried a few different methods and this is the most successful.
I play a mage the majority of the time in the bg's, but as a warrior you could have even more success doing this.

Winning or accomplishing objectives gives better honor than HK'S. This is very very true. However 50HK is greater honor than 0 HK. That being said here is how I do it. Alliance faction BTW.

1.- AB, you aren't going to win. Out of 20 games I normally win 1 or maybe two. After playing 60+ ab's I realized this. Honestly, a 3/2 loss is nearly as much honor as a 3/2 win the only difference is marks in which you really probably have WAY too many of anyway and end up spending on mounts etc. Since you aren't going to win go to where the fight is. Look at the map and go where the majority of players are, stay in the hot spots. Hang toward the back of the battle. Do not rush the front lines or be the first one there, if you do you are most likely to die. Spending 30 seconds in the GY away from the action = 0 HK. Staying in the back and picking people off with low health = lots of HK. If your faction and the other faction are seriously brawling, stand behind a wagon... a bush... around the corner etc etc. when the fighting leaves both sides at lower health levels rush in and hit a few. You should still be close enough to get the HK credit of your buddies who are killing the other faction while you are relatively safe. Spend your time TAB circling through targets looking for people you can kill swiftly in just a few strikes. The people who typically attack you are the ones you attack. If you aren't attacking people, the odds are they will attack someone else. When you do attack be sure that you can kill them, the next 30 seconds they will be rezzing while you look for someone else. When they do rez they will be "fighting at the flag" and you won't have to worry about the majority of them seeking revenge. Also, if you are near buildings such as the mine, the mill, the blacksmith make sure you cycle TAB through targets and assist the enemy. When you do this you will see if they have you targeted or not. If they are a caster and they have you targeted, simply move around a corner to enable LOS and defeat their casting. If it is a hot battle someone will attack them and they will not focus on you as you are not currently killing them. If it looks like your faction is being killed rapidly begin your escape. If you are near water such as the BS or ST jump in it and swim somewhere else. Few of the other faction will look or even pursue you in the water...swim to the bottom, whatever etc etc.
I started using this strategy heavily over the weekend. I kept a log for myself using notepad out of 20 ab's I finished #1 on the boards 8 times, #2 4 times and in the top 5 the remaining 8 games. This was against pugs, premades etc.. I won just as many games (2) as I had with my previous strategy of getting in the mix and trying to really be aggressive. The difference was I racked up nearly 1K hk's in the 20 ab's almost 50hk's per bg with about 200 killing blows. I'm not sure how easy KB's are but as a mage with 1k instant fireblast and around 1.7-2.5k fireball its pretty easy to one shot people with low health especially from behind a bush or some other places they don't notice you.

2. WSG, same strategy really. I typically don't attack the main flag force unless its the tail end who are low on health. You can use the same strategy on your flag force, just attack a few of the opposition who are low on health chasing your flag carrier. A timely frost nova coupled with blast wave and a little aoe can often net a few KB's all at once. This bg is the least honor for me and I rarely do it, only when I need these marks.

3. AV- I always accompany the zerg to RH. I try to stay in the back 25% of the zerg able to get credit for the majority of HK's that the zerg rolls over on their conquest to the RH. Once you start pulling WM's if you want to live move away from most everyone else and especially the mound. With my mage I typically go stand under that bridge and just come out to occasionally launch a fireball and this will still get me killed although rarely. For some reason alliance can't seem to pull less than 2 wm's and this causes a problem with healers trying to heal tanks. The wm's typically get bounced aoe killing folks until they are dps'd to death. Stay back, or completely out of the way to avoid death here. Once you go "all in" make sure you are one of the last 4 or 5 to go in. The first wave never waits for a tank to establish aggro and have drek bouncing all over the place. If you assist some of your faction and get drek to target wait until he's about 80% before you go full on in the room and engage.

I wait until he's at 80% then plop the battle standard down and start to fireball spam. I typically do between 100k-200k damage in each AV and finish near, if not at the top of the board for most games.

I guess I could have summarized by saying the fastest way to gain honor is not to die. Or, avoid being attacked as much as possible. A lot of people won't agree with these strategies saying they are unethical etc, that I should defend or try to win etc etc. But, its my $ and is the fastest way I've found to gain honor. I only need another item or two and i'm quitting until TBC anyway as I expect most will when xpac hits.

Just my two cp.

[Grendo]

I'm going to echo a few things here. But add my take, a few might not agree with the "morality" of this however I have tried a few different methods and this is the most successful.
I play a mage the majority of the time in the bg's, but as a warrior you could have even more success doing this.
And this is why alliance lose in AB/WSG. While I can agree with this as a strat for melee in AV, due to the sheer number of enemy players youre charging into otherwise, in small group skirmishes, every bit helps, and you might as well just AFK if youre going to hide behind bushes and things and just try to steal killing blows (and no, you dont receive 'more' honor by getting the killing blow).

The entire post makes me sad, and very glad I have 3-4 wonderful premades I can jump into at any time of the day to avoid people like this.

To answer the original question - it really depends on a few factors. Is it a Double honor weekend for X? Premade or PuG?

Assuming X is double honor AB/WSG, Y is the other, and also assuming Alliance in a horde dominating WSG/AB battlegroup...

Double Honor AND Premade - X > Y > AV
Double Honor AND PuG - X > AV > Y
Regular and Premade - WSG > AB > AV
Regular and PuG - AV > AB > WSG

[Amurko]

Queue up for all 3 BGs with preference towards AV.

If you enter AV and another BG pops up, consider going there if AV isn't progressing well or taking forever. Think of it this way.. you'll likely face a premade in WSG/AB when you get out of AV, and games against premades usually don't last very long. OK, so you'll lose but you "used" the premade in order to get out of AV without deserter. Now queue up for AV again and restart the process (since AV gives the most honor.)

[Oakdale]

Get into AV. Guard Stormpike graveyard. Everytime the Horde gets close charge in and spam whatever AE you have. Thunderstomp, Intimidating shout, trinkets, etc.


You'll be farming HK and leeching honor from the rest of us on Offense and I'll hate you, but...it is the fastest way if all you want is honor. (n.b. you need some defense..but we usually have too many defenders)

Don't forget to complete the quests in each of the BGs too. I believe they give honor as well as gold and exp. (but I'm not sure about that).

Oakdale.

"Alive and full of goo."

[Xmcdaniel]

If you join ab or wsg as a pug then 90 percent of the time you will get a premade. Thats on alli or horde side. But i have found the quality of premades are not always preimium. Seems to me that alot of premades are becoming just pugs from the same server. They are hoping for an easy win due to the fact that most will afk out when they see that they are all from the same server. Dont know how many "premades" we 3 capped this weekend (and i was pugging) but there was alot.

This is totally untrue...I have never been in a premade...ever. I BG about 3-4 hours a day in horde pugs and we win 90% of the time either way...it doesn't matter if you are in a premade or not.

[Xmcdaniel]

I'm Alliance I can also get 3-4k a day just by always getting in all 3 queues....plus maybe I'm lucky or maybe I'm just so powerful it hurts but alliance win 80% of the AVs I've been in. Losing at WSG and AB is 80% though...although a lot of this is because there are so many horde premades.

They aren't premades...they just seem like premade's because they are owning alliance so hard.

[moopy]

They aren't premades...they just seem like premade's because they are owning alliance so hard.

A lot of them are- when they all come from the server, that's a pretty massive giveaway, highly unlikely to happen by accident.

That said, on bonus weekends, BGs are full of alliance raiding guild premades who are too gutless to pvp without their PM around them. Sometimes it's fun to see a horde PUG take one of these to bits.

If you're not PMming:

As horde, I find that pugging AB is a pretty reliable source of fast honour, and as alliance, AV- just remember to do all the towers and NPCs etc.

[Aerath]

Quite a few Premades are Premade PUGs. Just from the same server but still crap. They just count on that 'oh crap' moment real PUGs have the second they see it's a "premade".