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timebomb
23-01-2007, 03:26 PM
every time i go to orgr now and i go alot as i have not yet picked a faction in shath, i hearth to shath and port to orgr for rested. now the change i have seen most is i get bumbarded with give me gold tells. it like i just walked into bumland. is any one noticing this as well? i must get 3-4 tells a trip to orgr asking for money.

and for the survey; do you give gold out?

Gormash
23-01-2007, 03:33 PM
Can't say I've noticed this, no. No more than usual.

And no, I never give money to beggars...
Sometime I offer loans or donations to players I like and that I know need a little cash, but never if they ask for it.

Bigairbrucey
23-01-2007, 03:36 PM
I have noticed the same in SW ....I never give money out ...I'm saving for my flying mount :-D

Stigg
23-01-2007, 03:37 PM
I'm mean to them...I say, "Sure, just come to me" Then Ill ride around, wasting time (and theirs too!) and when they get to me I'l talk to them for awhile (waste more of their time) then ask how much they want. Usually its a couple gold. I tell them I don't have enough money to do that.....then I open up a trade window with them, put in about 1500G into the trade slot, then get up and walk away....I have gone from my computer for over 20 minutes and when I came abck they were still saying "PLEASE!!!! GIMME!!!"

Icefrost
23-01-2007, 03:46 PM
My org visits sure have changed a lot. It takes a lot longer now that I stop by to /spit on every single blood elf NPC that I happen to see(damn bleached copies :-D)

On topic: I must admit I have also noticed something like that. I guess its starting to show that a lot of people rerolled to level one :)

owlx
23-01-2007, 03:51 PM
I'm mean to them...I say, "Sure, just come to me" Then Ill ride around, wasting time (and theirs too!) and when they get to me I'l talk to them for awhile (waste more of their time) then ask how much they want. Usually its a couple gold. I tell them I don't have enough money to do that.....then I open up a trade window with them, put in about 1500G into the trade slot, then get up and walk away....I have gone from my computer for over 20 minutes and when I came abck they were still saying "PLEASE!!!! GIMME!!!"


Cool-hearted Stigg....................but, 100% right on. :thumbsup:

I think the ones that bothers me most are the gold and power-leveling adds in general chat.

Serrat
23-01-2007, 04:08 PM
never when to org that much even before TBC so not really noticed the difference.

i normally head to Thunder Bluff and as far as i can see thats still the same, it was never full of people in the first place and even less of them were trying to part you with your hard earned gold.

i find the gold sellers whisper spamming you more annoying.

DrOsmius
23-01-2007, 04:09 PM
I always respond to beggars with (found on one of these forums...credit to its originator, whoever you may be):

"Sure...but my money was taken by [nearby mob] in [nearby zone]; if you go out and kill them and get my money, you can have half! You can just mail me my half."

SwervinCL
23-01-2007, 06:05 PM
I ran into someone yesterday litterally begging... Without even saying please.. Gimmie Gimmie Gimmie... My friend actually gave him a gold because it made him laugh...

I don't give random people money. What for. I didn't beg for it. I spend a lot of my noobness broke, never begged for money and took it upon myself to figure out how to make money... Why do people think its ok to beg for money... Make your own damn money.,

Your Average WoW Player
23-01-2007, 06:17 PM
I haven't had that on my server with the major cities, then again, I've only been to the Exodar once since i got the X-Pack and none of the other major cities on my server.

I usually tell beggers that I need my cash, and I'll direct them to a good place to get cash around their level.

Xlorep DarkHelm
23-01-2007, 06:28 PM
Sometimes, I wish WoW could have one of the more annoyiung aspects of EverQuest. Back shortly after Ruins of Kunark launched for that game, back when money weighed people down, and it was even difficult to swim with money in your pocket, I would sit in the Iksar (lizardman) capitol, which had rather large aqueducts/waterways in it. When people would beg fr5om me, I'd have a spell which made me be able to move faster, I'd go to the bank, and convert a rather nice sum of platinum into copper (1000 copper = 1 platinum, and you could actually exchange it at a bank for one or the other). I think somewhere around 1,000,000 copper, which was heavy enough that even with movement-speed buffs on me, I was crawling. I'd swim out into the middle of the water, invite the beggar to follow me, I'd hand the money over to the beggar, and swim away. A recreation of the "monkey trap" -- the person wouldn't want to give away any of that money, but couldn't move (and sank like a rock) while holding it, eventually drowning and dying. The best part was that for a while, you couldn't move a corpse that was weighed down like that, so as soon as the person came back, he/she would loot the corpse, have all of the money again, and die. It usually took somewhere around 40 or 50 deaths & loots before the person could actually get to land and then still would be stuck unable to move with the cash.

I actually had GM's come and watch the antics of these annoying beggars who were plaguing the city, and my demented solution which would keep them busy for hours. That was by far one of the best forms of entertainment I had in an MMO, until corpses were made to not weigh anything and money no longer made you sink.

amdolia
23-01-2007, 06:35 PM
i have a 60 priest and pally on diff servers and diff factions. I findthat people ask for money more on my pally then my horde.... idk if this is just the server or because more then half of the people that play alliance of like 10 years old.

Arsehale
23-01-2007, 06:36 PM
LMAO!!! well funny :laugh:

djiss
23-01-2007, 06:36 PM
lol, priceless!

rockhead
23-01-2007, 06:40 PM
I experienced a begger the other day. It was a lvl one in Northshire abby. I was helping my g/f lvl her preist when someone ran up to me and said can you give me money. I whisper them back I need my money. It actually annoyed me a lot. Then someone asked me if i had linen to sell i said yes. they said i will give you 3s. I laughed and said I make a lot more in AH. Then they gave me a sob story saying if they paid how much i sell in the AH then they wouldn't be able to train. So i told him to go to the mines and kill miners cause they drop them all the time.

Fursphere
23-01-2007, 07:58 PM
Best way to deal with beggers:

Open trade window, drop in 100+ gold, and go AFK, never pushing the "trade" button.

TeamRamrod
23-01-2007, 08:02 PM
Yesterday some lvl 8 belfadin whispered me "hey i need 50s" then proceeded to open trade with me....i was like wtf you cant even ask? its like he demanded money from me, so i ignored him and he said "OMG" as he walked away...stupid bums.

Fursphere
23-01-2007, 08:04 PM
I'll often trade people for 1c also.

Don't spend it all in one place!

DraedynLei
23-01-2007, 09:33 PM
i guess i should feel fortunate i've never really encountered that much begging. but if i did, it i think it would really annoy the crap out of me. i mean in wow you can earn money by just killing things, then vendoring their drops if you're too lazy to AH it. lazy people just irk me. why should any of us give up our earned (i wont even say its hard earned, which it isn't always) to some stranger who just asks? i wonder how these people operate in normal life. though actually, if they were 10 or 11, that is probably how they operate normally. so maybe i'm being too tough on em :P

PlayThemAll
23-01-2007, 09:37 PM
I guess grinding for gold is a lost art, becoming as extinct as the ability to read a quest log.

I don't mind helping out a new player but I'm not going to put his toon through college. I'll start lending gold when Bliz comes up with a way for me to garnish other players loot. Beggers might think differently if 10% of everything they loot goes to a creditor.

I like the idea of opening the trade window and going AFK, I'll try that one.

I also hate the gold ads that run in chat. I keep getting whispers from payers that do not exist. (it says player does not exist when I try to ignore them).

LucidTaint
23-01-2007, 10:15 PM
Yeah, I think the beggars bother me the most because... I had to work for my money, I wasn't just handed it. It isn't like money is hard to get in this game if you just go out and get it.

My druid, dressed in all but 2 pieces of her Tier 2 armor, gets begged at the most. I think people see the fancy epics and think that I'm rich or something -- they don't make the connection that the fancy armor also costs a lot more to repair, so I found myself broke most of the time (until BC came out, wow, I'm actually making money again).

The closest I've ever come to begging was when I didn't have enough money for a flight that I needed to make with one of my low level characters, to meet up with a friend who was waiting on me. So I went out and tried to grind the money, but she was only like level 8, and I couldn't make enough silver off the drops -- I only needed like 5 silver. But I happened to get a malachite, so I asked if anyone would be willing to buy it for 2 silver (the difference between what I had and what I needed) so I could use the flight master. A nice guy came up and handed me 5 silver and told me to keep the malachite. I would never dream of begging people, though, and especially not as rudely as some of these beggars have been getting.

The gold ads are really annoying me, too. I get them in tells, I get them in my mailbox, and I've been seeing them in chats when I'm trying to quest or in an instance. It's starting to get as bad as Diablo 2, where you had people spamming the chat rooms and the chat channels in the games with ads.

I like that idea for beggars, though, of opening the trade window and walking away. I'll definitely have to use that one, go get something to eat or drink while I'm waiting for their time to be wasted. ^.^

mesonm
23-01-2007, 10:16 PM
I'm mean to them...I say, "Sure, just come to me" Then Ill ride around, wasting time (and theirs too!) and when they get to me I'l talk to them for awhile (waste more of their time) then ask how much they want. Usually its a couple gold. I tell them I don't have enough money to do that.....then I open up a trade window with them, put in about 1500G into the trade slot, then get up and walk away....I have gone from my computer for over 20 minutes and when I came abck they were still saying "PLEASE!!!! GIMME!!!"

I don't see any reason to be mean to someone merely because they are morons....

Valas Azuviir
23-01-2007, 11:09 PM
I don't see any reason to be mean to someone merely because they are morons....

Oh, I don't know.. At my workplace, at least I get paid to put up with morons. In WoW, I'm the one paying, so why should I waste what little patience and time I have left/got, for those who are only polluting the gene pool anyway. :wink:

rockhead
23-01-2007, 11:15 PM
Oh, I don't know.. At my workplace, at least I get paid to put up with morons. In WoW, I'm the one paying, so why should I waste what little patience and time I have left/got, for those who are only polluting the gene pool anyway. :wink:

you must work in a call center like i do lol

RWGreen
23-01-2007, 11:18 PM
I have noticed an increase in beggars also. It seemed to coincide with Christmas, when I'm sure a lot of people received the game as a gift. My server was a "recommended" server, so it was soon flooded with new players with no tact and/or MMORPG etiquette.

Valas Azuviir
23-01-2007, 11:19 PM
you must work in a call center like i do lol

Nope.. Civil Servant.. Hence, why I'm always so grouchy around here, just not enough civility left after a day's work. :wink3:

amgyn
23-01-2007, 11:24 PM
@op you get rested exp in shattrah now

Xlorep DarkHelm
24-01-2007, 12:06 AM
I also hate the gold ads that run in chat. I keep getting whispers from payers that do not exist. (it says player does not exist when I try to ignore them).

Look for SpamSentry on ui.worldofwar.net. That makes those ads much easier to deal with. Makes reporting those players as easy as a click of a button, and blocks the message from being displayed.

DraedynLei
24-01-2007, 12:21 AM
I'll start lending gold when Bliz comes up with a way for me to garnish other players loot. Beggers might think differently if 10% of everything they loot goes to a creditor.

LOL! can you imagine the debt society that would be created if blizz implemented this?? oh wait, it would be just like the one we actually live in. ha! but still, talk about a player driven economy. at this point, you know the loan sharks would just come in :P

det
24-01-2007, 09:03 AM
Me and guildmates report sellers, hell..even tried to kill them with a lose infernal, but they shy away from it.

All I got was this damned automated reply that they are investigating the account/issue etc...

Seeo
24-01-2007, 06:48 PM
My fav.

Beggar: "Excuse me, Can I get some gold?"
Me: "Sure!"
*wait ... wait ... wait*
*Beggar opens trade window finally*
Me: "What are you doing?"
Beggar: "You told me I could get some gold"
Me: "Oh yeah! You again! Sure you can get some gold"
Beggar: "Well can I have some?"
Me: "From me?"
Beggar: "Yes plz"
Me: "hmm... No."
Beggar: "But you told me!"
Me: "Yes, I told you you can 'get' some gold"
Beggar: "???"
Me: "But didn't tell you it'd be from me."
*Then I ride off into the sunset with a pocket full of change*

Gealach
24-01-2007, 10:17 PM
I usually just say "WoW doesn't stand for World of Welfare" and leave it at that. It generally works. If they persist I tell them nothing is free but offer them 4g to go collect 100 light feathers for me from birds in Loch Modan or Teldrassil (50 if I feel like being nice). Never had anyone take me up on the offer. I'd certainly not mind having the feathers since I enjoy using Slow Fall whenever it saves me time.

Pounamu
24-01-2007, 11:05 PM
I've been using the line below, found on the forums here.

"Sure I'll give you money, but I dont keep it on me, might get stolen, you know. Instead, I hid it on monsters all across the world. If you kill them then you can have my money."

But the following is now my new tactic. I love it!

I usually just say "WoW doesn't stand for World of Welfare" and leave it at that. It generally works. If they persist I tell them nothing is free but offer them 4g to go collect 100 light feathers for me from birds in Loch Modan or Teldrassil (50 if I feel like being nice).

P

Idol
24-01-2007, 11:10 PM
'Ni Hao'


Works every time.

mesonm
24-01-2007, 11:57 PM
Oh, I don't know.. At my workplace, at least I get paid to put up with morons. In WoW, I'm the one paying, so why should I waste what little patience and time I have left/got, for those who are only polluting the gene pool anyway. :wink:

For one, "put up with" is passive...

Being mean is active....

Second, why waste what little time you have on being mean to them....Why give them any time at all?

As for patience, you run out of that...in a game?

I consider myself to be lazy...in that I do not waste any energy on morons...which means I do not spend any being mean to them either...

Justinledwards
25-01-2007, 03:52 AM
I walk into stormwind with my warp stalker and big glowy axe... I have trade windows opened all the way through. Tried blocking trade for a while, but guildies and parties get annoyed.

So it's the ignore list

And then... calamity....

'you cannot ignore any more people' !!!!!!!!

I think i'll choose the port for IF in future.

Icefrost
25-01-2007, 08:59 AM
'Ni Hao'


Works every time.

Heh, just gotta try that next time.

DraedynLei
25-01-2007, 07:08 PM
'Ni Hao'


Works every time.

why didn't i think of that!