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Novaz Story
01-02-2007, 11:26 AM
I have to write a report on summarizing the states rights issue's on the civil war. :ponder: Can anyone help?

snowieken
01-02-2007, 12:48 PM
Google is your friend. And you might actually learn something if you look it all up yourself.

Novaz Story
01-02-2007, 12:58 PM
I know where to find the info...I just need help summarizing it!

Clavina
01-02-2007, 12:59 PM
which civil war? there have been a lot of civil wars in a lot of countries in the past few hundred years

Novaz Story
01-02-2007, 01:13 PM
The american civil war with abraham lincoln and douglas

StealthAssasin
01-02-2007, 01:51 PM
O_O dude that stuff is easy lol but um gimme some sight on wut u need summarized im bored ill do it :P

Novaz Story
01-02-2007, 01:56 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Civil_War

thats it. I need the states rights issue's summarized. Im 13 so make it like i would write it. thanx

StealthAssasin
01-02-2007, 02:17 PM
check the message i sent u. ill get back to your later atm i have to stufy for a test in class.

StealthAssasin
01-02-2007, 02:17 PM
gimme the headings of wut u want summarized no way in hell im reading all of that lol

Stigg
02-02-2007, 06:05 AM
/sigh

and we wonder why americans go to college not prepared...

But here ya go...

The south won. Slavery still exists. Abe Lincoln didn't get killed. The turks invaded with car bombs. Gettysburg was actually a tea party and the trail of tears was so named because the indians were happy.

Now go ace that paper!

snowieken
02-02-2007, 11:48 AM
I did actually try to say something when I postedAnd you might actually learn something if you look it all up yourself.This forum should not be supposed to provide you with someone doing your homework for you. Unfortunately, as always, there's StealthAssasin.

:wink2:

Ash Housewares
02-02-2007, 05:26 PM
Im 13 so make it like i would write it. thanx

don't tempt me :devil:

Stigg
02-02-2007, 05:33 PM
Unfortunately, as always, there's StealthAssasin.

:wink2:

I want to see what grade he gets if he uses SA's writing.

lolzasaurus :P

Foonyak
02-02-2007, 05:34 PM
Do it, Ash. Do it. You know you want to. Maybe you and Stigg could do a collaborative effort to help the kid out.

Ash Housewares
02-02-2007, 05:35 PM
I'm sure the other members here could put together a suitably caustic and unreadable F paper without my help, I might disturb things by including some actual information

Stigg
02-02-2007, 05:36 PM
Haha i already wrote the paper for him.
The south won. Slavery still exists. Abe Lincoln didn't get killed. The turks invaded with car bombs. Gettysburg was actually a tea party and the trail of tears was so named because the indians were happy.

rgirty
02-02-2007, 05:41 PM
The education of children will change drastically in the near future. A change from memorizing information to teaching skills to find the information.

Why would anyone care to memorize a laundry list of things such as I had to when in school? Google will give you nearly any information you want instantly, why not teach kids what they need to know. Problem solving, though process, logic and ingenuity rather than "memorize this nub".

Ash Housewares
02-02-2007, 05:47 PM
I am not a big fan of research, so it's lucky that I already know everything

:sunny:

Foonyak
02-02-2007, 05:49 PM
A change from memorizing information to teaching skills to find the information.

We can only hope so. Personally, what one knows is not near as important to me as how one learned it is. I will elaborate later if anyone wants me to...but it's lunch time.

Stigg
02-02-2007, 07:16 PM
We can only hope so. Personally, what one knows is not near as important to me as how one learned it is. I will elaborate later if anyone wants me to...but it's lunch time.

I'll add a bit of my own personal experience.

In lower level math classes, it is very easy to memorize a few formulas and get correct answers on any test. That got me through calc 1 and 2. Once vector calc and differential equations came along, things got a bit more abstract. Sure, there were certain forumlas that were committed to memory from doing them over and over again, but when it came to the application of those forumlas, each one had to be tweaked in order to get a correct answer. Then when abstract algebra and analysis came along, any equation you "learned" was of little use....and you had to really think outside the box. That is what showed who the real mathematicians were. You couldn't simply put a list of equations in your calculator and reference those during tests....as they were of very little help.

Same thing goes for physics. In general physics, everything was simple enough....if you knew 4 or 5 equations, you could get through gen physics 1, 2, and *possibly* 3. After that, when you got into relativity, quantum dynamics, thermodynamics, and beyond, an equation meant nothing....nothing at all. It wasn't like there was 100 forumlas you could memorize and pass the class....you had to think extremely outside the box and really assess each problem.

I fear for those people that literally do just google information, write formulas in cheat sheets, etc. THOSE are the people that are sealing their own fate.

Now granted, with history and subjects similar to those, all it is is research and writing skills....

Foonyak
02-02-2007, 09:12 PM
What I meant by my that sentence is a bit more than what you can see on the surface.

School is the only place where one will ever be forced to learn anything. After high school (or the foreign equivalent; /apologies for being an uncultured American) one can get by on the knowledge that they have, but if you would like to do more than just get by, you have to educate yourself further.

In the schools here, students are taught to memorize what it is that they're learning. And if the subjects that they studied never advanced any, never took a new path, or accepted new ideas, memorization would be a great way to teach. Everything changes though; mathematics change as new sciences are discovered and old sciences are thoroughly tested and proven or disproven. History changes on a daily basis as the future becomes the present, and the past is explored via documentation and archaeology/anthropology. Even linguistics change as new dialects are created on the streets and the old dialects are used less and less.

But after schooling, no one has to learn anything else unless they want to. I've never had a desire to learn math beyond what I memorized in school, because I didn't do very well with it, even when I had the opportunity to receive help. And I took advantage of that opportunity also. I'm not very good at math when it starts involving letters.

On the other hand, I love to read, and to write. I'll read almost anything, and I have written some short stories (none good enough to put in the fanfic forum), quite a few songs (lyrics only, I'm not quite good enough to put music to them), and debating (on almost any subject) is something that I enjoy very much.

However, I learned very little of what I know in school. I've had to research almost everything, and a lot of what I researched has since changed. Philosophy, religion, politics, economics, history, auto mechanics, fishing, hunting, Spanish (yeah, I speak a little), etc. You name it, if I know anything about it, I've researched it since I graduated high school.

Is what they teach in school wrong? No. How they teach it is, though. Study your text books.... Works fine until you get your first job after graduation, and realize that a good deal of what you just got done learning is not valid in reference to what you're doing or in reference to what you want to do. Schools should emphasize, not on the memorization of text, but on researching the subject at hand, be it math, grammar, history, geology, chemistry, or the mating habits of chimpanzees in captivity.

I don't know. Make what you will of this post, or discard it as the ramblings of a disgruntled human being. It is all up for debate.

rgirty
02-02-2007, 09:21 PM
What I meant by my that sentence is a bit more than what you can see on the surface.

School is the only place where one will ever be forced to learn anything. After high school (or the foreign equivalent; /apologies for being an uncultured American) one can get by on the knowledge that they have, but if you would like to do more than just get by, you have to educate yourself further.

In the schools here, students are taught to memorize what it is that they're learning. And if the subjects that they studied never advanced any, never took a new path, or accepted new ideas, memorization would be a great way to teach. Everything changes though; mathematics change as new sciences are discovered and old sciences are thoroughly tested and proven or disproven. History changes on a daily basis as the future becomes the present, and the past is explored via documentation and archaeology/anthropology. Even linguistics change as new dialects are created on the streets and the old dialects are used less and less.

But after schooling, no one has to learn anything else unless they want to. I've never had a desire to learn math beyond what I memorized in school, because I didn't do very well with it, even when I had the opportunity to receive help. And I took advantage of that opportunity also. I'm not very good at math when it starts involving letters.

On the other hand, I love to read, and to write. I'll read almost anything, and I have written some short stories (none good enough to put in the fanfic forum), quite a few songs (lyrics only, I'm not quite good enough to put music to them), and debating (on almost any subject) is something that I enjoy very much.

However, I learned very little of what I know in school. I've had to research almost everything, and a lot of what I researched has since changed. Philosophy, religion, politics, economics, history, auto mechanics, fishing, hunting, Spanish (yeah, I speak a little), etc. You name it, if I know anything about it, I've researched it since I graduated high school.

Is what they teach in school wrong? No. How they teach it is, though. Study your text books.... Works fine until you get your first job after graduation, and realize that a good deal of what you just got done learning is not valid in reference to what you're doing. Schools should emphasize, not on the memorization of text, but on researching the subject at hand, be it math, grammar, history, geology, chemistry, or the mating habits of chimpanzees in captivity.

I don't know. Make what you will of this post, or discard it as the ramblings of a disgruntled human being. It is all up for debate.

I have/had an odd way of learning. If I had an instructor that taught directly from the textbook I would read it cover to cover in the first few days of school. From that point on I didn't have any trouble. I did the same for college and some technical exams. I didn't use this method for math, but I was a fairly good math student as well.

I agree with the researching, with problems facing me at my position in the workplace the first thing I attempt to do is to locate as many case studies involving the same issues as I can find and read them. I can then apply their solutions to our problems and often times correct the issue.

Just my 2 cp.

ambushingAnA
02-02-2007, 09:45 PM
dude read other essay topic thingys on the net then paste them all together make sure u re write it out though to make sure it all fits together

thats what i did with a practice exam that i got excellence for then i memorized it and got excellence in my external exam :D