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AeroJonesy
06-03-2007, 07:14 PM
If you've found any changes not in the patch notes, list 'em here!

Stigg
06-03-2007, 07:42 PM
Hey AJ, any chance you can link or list the official patch notes?

Tanitha
06-03-2007, 07:51 PM
World of Warcraft Client Patch 2.0.10 (03/6/2007)
The latest patch notes can always be found at http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/patchnotes/
General

Some logic was fixed in the "Natural Remedies" quest so that Pathaleon the Calculator's Image will always spawn during the ritual.
Goliathon and his shardlings can no longer be pulled to nearby areas that have guards.
More fixes implemented in the "It's a Fel Reaver, But With Heart" quest to keep the Scrapped Fel Reaver from breaking.
The Orb of the Blackwhelp and Hallowed Wands can no longer be used in combat, and the transformation will be canceled if the player receives damage.
The Scrap Reaver in Netherstorm repairs reduced from 10,000 health to 8,500 health over 10 seconds.
Battle of the Crimson Watch
Illidari Mind Breaker has been weakened.
Illidari Highlords can now be CC'ed but not Charmed. PvP
Arenas
The cost of the "Gladiator's Slicer" has been increased to 2625 arena points.
The cost of the "Gladiator's Quickblade" has been decreased to 1125 arena points and changed to offhand only.
The cost of the "Gladiator's Cleaver" has been increased to 2625 arena points.
The cost of the "Gladiator's Hacker" has been decreased to 1125 arena points and changed to offhand only.
The cost of the "Gladiator's Pummeler" has been increased to 2625 arena points.
The cost of the "Gladiator's Bonecracker" has been decreased to 1125 arena points and changed to offhand only.
The cost of the "Gladiator's Right Ripper" has been increased to 2625 arena points.
The cost of the "Gladiator's Left Ripper" has been decreased to 1125 arena points.
The cost of the "Gladiator's Shanker" has been increased to 2625 arena points.
The cost of the "Gladiator's Shiv" has been decreased to 1125 arena points and changed to offhand only.
The cost of the "Gladiator's War Edge" has been decreased to 1000 arena points and the speed changed to 1.9.
The cost of the "Gladiator's Spellblade" has been increased to 3150 arena points.
The cost of the "Touch of Defeat" has been decreased to 1000 arena points.
The cost of the "Gladiator's Endgame" has been decreased to 1125 arena points.
The cost of the "Idol of Tenacity" has been decreased to 1000 arena points.
The cost of the "Libram of Justice" has been decreased to 1000 arena points.
The cost of the "totem of the Third Wind" has been decreased to 1000 arena points. Druids

When the duration of "Cyclone" ends, area buffs such as "Leader of the Pack", "Tree of Life", and "Moonkin" will now be correctly resumed.
"Bear Form" now grants 25% increased stamina instead of 25% increased health.
"Dire Bear Form" now grants 25% increased stamina instead of 25% increased health. In addition, the armor bonus has been reduced from 450% to 400%.
The multiplier on base weapon damage for "Mangle (Bear)" ability has been changed from 130% to 100%. In addition, the bonus damage has been reduced by the same ratio.
"Savage Fury" no longer affects "Mangle (Bear)".
"Savage Fury" no longer applies to "Maul" or "Swipe".
The critical damage bonus on "Predatory Instincts" reduced from 3/6/9/12/15% to 2/4/6/8/10%.
"Improved Leader of the Pack" can no longer get critical heals.
The armor bonus from "Moonkin Form" has been increased from 360% to 400% (to match Dire Bear Form).
The rage normalization equation has been adjusted to grant more rage. Mages
Increased the chance Frozen effects are broken when the target is critically struck by a spell. Paladins
The slowing affect from "Avenger's Shield" is now considered a snare, so snare removal and immunity affects will now work on it. Priests
The base healing percent from "Vampiric Embrace" has been reduced to 15% from 20%. In addition, this ability can no longer get critical heals.
"Silent Resolve" no longer reduces threat generated by Shadow spells.
Prayer of Mending now has a 10 second cooldown.
Mass Dispel will now target immunity effects first.
Circle of Healing mana cost reduced by 25%.
The effectiveness of "Fade:Rank 7" has been increased by approximately 25%.
The damage absorption of "Power Word: Shield" added by the caster's bonus healing has been increased to 20%. Shaman
The clearcasting effect from "Elemental Focus" now triggers on all spell critical strikes, rather than a chance on any spell hit.
The shaman will no longer generate additional threat when "Unleashed Rage" triggers.
The free Lightning spell cast from "Lightning Overload" will now cause reduced threat.
"Stoneclaw Totem" now has a 50% chance to stun attackers for 3 sec. when struck.
The bonus of the "Wrath of Air" totem now applies to healing spells as well. Warlock
"Demonic Tactics" now grants increased critical strike chance to you and your demon pet, instead of increased damage. Warriors
The rage normalization equation has been adjusted to grant more rage. The typical warrior should see an increase of 15% to 20% in their rage generation.
All warriors had their critical strike chance adjusted upward slightly (about 1%).
"Thunder Clap" is now useable in Defensive Stance. In addition, the tooltip has been adjusted to indicate it causes additional threat.
The cooldown on "Victory Rush" has been removed, and it can now be used up to 20 seconds after killing an enemy.
"Unbridled Wrath" has been modified so that rather than a fixed chance to grant rage, it has an increased chance when using slower weapons.
Increased the health bonus from "Commanding Shout" by 50%.
"Improved Battle Shout" talent renamed to "Commanding Presence" and now increases the health bonus from "Commanding Shout" in addition to increasing the melee attack power from "Battle Shout". Items
The threat generated from the spell effect on "Thunderfury" has been substantially reduced.
The bonus to "Swipe" from the "Idol of Brutality" has been reduced from 50 to 10.
"Alchemist's Stone" will no longer increase healing and mana gained from items which are not potions.
The cost of sockets in high end items has been adjusted slightly, the result is that most high end epic items should see an increase in stats.
Corrected many items that had incorrect stat values assigned to them.
The rewards from the "Fel Embers" quest are now superior items as intended.
Reduced the damage dealt by "The Lightning Capacitor".
Corrected the level requirement of the "Fist of Reckoning".
"Necklace of Trophies" has been corrected to increase Hit Rating instead of Hit Avoidance.
"Burnoose of Shifting Ages" can now be disenchanted.
"Nethershrike" now has the proper sell value and can be disenchanted.
Corrected the level of "Marksman's Bow" to be in line with other epic reputation rewards.
The "Marksman's Bow" now has the proper damage range.
"Hourglass of the Unraveller" will now properly increase ranged attack power.
Corrected the socket bonus for "Soul-Collar of the Incarnate".
Corrected a typo in the set bonus of "Warbringer Armor".
"Ruby Slippers" now properly have a cast time.
Corrected the min use level of "Terokk's Shadowstaff".
"Warpscale Leggings" have had their Crit Rating updated to the intended Dodge Rating.
"Warmaul Slayer's Band" no longer has critical strike rating. However, its agility and attack power have been increased.
"Ancient Draenei War Talisman" now shares a cooldown with all trinkets that temporarily increase damage done.
"Ancient Draenei Arcane Relic" shares a cooldown with all trinkets that temporarily increase damage done.
"Aldor Guardian Rifle" now has a range correctly set on it.
The effect on "Void Star Talisman" was incorrectly set to On Use. It is now set to On Equip.
The critical strike rating on "Cilice of Suffering" has been changed to spell critical strike rating.
The cooldown for "Glimmering Mithril Insignia" has been increased from 10 minutes to 20 minutes.
The slowing affect from the "Mug 'O Hurt" is now considered a snare, so snare removal and immunity affects will now work on it.
The "Mark of Conquest" trinket now correctly triggers the mana regen effect. Raids and Dungeons
Creatures in Tempest Keep:Botanica, Tempest Keep: Mechanar, and Tempest Keep:Arcatraz no longer respawn as rapidly.
Hellfire Citadel:Shattered Halls
Removed a problematic chest.
The "Resist Shadow" spell cast by Shadowmoon Acolyte's in Shattered Halls will now be removed if a player leaves the zone.
Shattered Hand Gladiators will no longer break players' stealth when engaged in combat.
Serpentshrine Cavern
Boss creatures have received additional tuning and polish.
Tempest Keep: Arcatraz
Warder and Defender Corpses are now immune to spell effects that could cause the Protean Spawn to not spawn.
Protean Spawn now deal less damage.
The damage dealt by Wrath-Scryer Soccothrates' "Immolation" and "Knock Away" abilities has been reduced.
Auchindoun: Shadow Labyrinth
Cabal Zealots are now more threatening while under the effect of Shape of the Beast.
Reduced the chance of a Cabal Assassin ambush.
Tempest Keep: Botanica
Sunseeker Gene-Splicers' Death and Decay now deals significantly less damage and casts less frequently.
Mutate Fleshlashers now deal less melee damage.
Mutate Horrors and Fear-Shriekers now have less health.
Sunseeker Researchers will now cast shocks less frequently.
Sunseeker Chemists are now Paladin type instead of Warrior type.
The Blue Seedlings in the High Botanist Freywinn encounter now slow players instead of immobilizing them.
High Botanist Freywinn will now plant seedlings at a slightly reduced rate.
Tempest Keep: Mechanar
Gatewatcher Iron-Hand now wields a Jackhammer.
Gatewatcher Iron-Hand is now more vocal when perfoming his Jackhammer attack.
Mechanar Drillers, Wreckers, and Crushers in Tempest Keep: The Mechanar may no longer be enslaved when in Heroic mode.
Caverns of Time
Captain Skarloc in Caverns of Time: Escape from Durnholde is no longer susceptible to disarm, and does not slow down when wounded.
A defeat in the Caverns of Time: Opening of the Dark Portal instance will no longer despawn unlooted bosses with loot.
Occasionally after players are defeated in the Caverns of Time: Opening of the Dark Portal encounter on Heroic difficulty, the placeholder versions of the bosses that appear in future attempts that day would not spawn. The proper placeholders will now spawn instead of Rift Lords and Rift Keepers.
Boss creatures in Caverns of Time: Opening of the Dark Portal will now dispel all nearby Time Keepers instead of one at a time.
Karazhan
Maiden of Virtue's "Holy Wrath" has been slightly retuned to try and allow additional melee attackers to be used against her.
Maiden of Virtue's "Holy Fire" has been adjusted to prevent a possible range exploit.
Maiden of Virtue will no longer "Holy Fire" players under the effect of "Repentance".
Midnight is no longer susceptible to Bleed effects, since he's a skeletal horse.
Nightbane's Restless Skeletons are now immune to non-holy magical damage.
Restless Skeletons no longer have immolation.
Nightbane's Bone Shard Spray can no longer be interrupted by using an immunity effect.
Some minor issues with the Library Tomes have been corrected.
The use of Divine Shield, Ice Block, or Cloak of Shadows will no longer prematurely detonate the Shade of Aran's Flame Wreath.
Restless Skeletons will now summon a player if they are unable to path to that player, and deal more melee damage.
The cooldown of Bellowing Roar has been adjusted to be a more consistent value. Bug Fixes
Fixed the credits to display properly.There you go Stigg.

det
06-03-2007, 08:49 PM
I hope an undocumented change is the display of the Frozen Shadoweave vest ^^

Luminare
07-03-2007, 04:38 AM
A undocumented change was that they will send your non-personal system information on first login. kinda like a spyware would.
Look for it when the login dialog appears.

whats next our browser bookmark list and friend list on msn?

wolfsense
07-03-2007, 10:24 AM
Yea wats all that about? Non-personal system information?

kall
07-03-2007, 10:55 AM
A undocumented change was that they will send your non-personal system information on first login. kinda like a spyware would.
Look for it when the login dialog appears.

whats next our browser bookmark list and friend list on msn?
Clearly, you didn't bother to search the official forums, or ask a GM, or file a support ticket.

This is Blizzard's way of collecting data about your system in order to improve its service to all.

linky (http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/search.html?forumId=11110&stationId=1&sid=1&searchText=submitting+non+personal&x=0&y=0)

Krollin
07-03-2007, 01:31 PM
A undocumented change was that they will send your non-personal system information on first login. kinda like a spyware would.
Look for it when the login dialog appears.

whats next our browser bookmark list and friend list on msn?
It also states that you allow this to happen in the TOS/EULA. People should read this more often :)

Browser bookmarks and other personal information are not allowed to be even looked for never mind looked at and sent somewhere else.

snowieken
07-03-2007, 01:34 PM
It's non-personal information anyway. Not like they are going after your mom's phone number or anything like that.

Dark Matter
07-03-2007, 01:51 PM
Yea wats all that about? Non-personal system information?

http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html;jsessionid=0EB49DEF116E5AA5A3FBD8FDDFD70DCF?topicId=20272675&postId=200609723&sid=1#0


To help the dev. teams tailor our game content to meet the system requirements of our players, we occasionally run automatic system surveys to gather non-personal system information. This info allows the dev. teams to optimize our patches and upcoming games for a wide variety of system configurations and enhance the overall game experience for players. During each survey period, we obtain information regarding the CPU, RAM, operating system, video, audio, HD/CD/DVD, and network connection you use to connect to World of Warcraft."

In keeping with our policy of protecting user privacy, we do not collect any personal information with these surveys, nor are we able to associate any information we record with any particular user or system.

The next automatic system survey will run this week. World of Warcraft players may notice a brief message as they log in, indicating that the survey has been completed. If you have any questions about this procedure, please feel free to email us at wowtech@blizzard.com.

Etrin
18-03-2007, 12:19 AM
You know its funny this EULA crap what you have to agree to to continue to play a game is getting out of hand.
THEY and MS were sued for not asking about non personal info and BOTH LOST THE CASE.

now they throw it in a EULA AFTER THE FACT and can get away with almost anything.

Jaron
18-03-2007, 01:22 AM
Frost Nova was changed to break more frequently on crits. Its almost, if not 100% now.

Gekothan
18-03-2007, 07:10 AM
You know its funny this EULA crap what you have to agree to to continue to play a game is getting out of hand.
THEY and MS were sued for not asking about non personal info and BOTH LOST THE CASE.

now they throw it in a EULA AFTER THE FACT and can get away with almost anything.
LOL They are collecting your system specs, not the MRU lists from all of your apps, information that absolutely nobody cares about other than developers. Valve collects system information all the time with Steam. If you are so concerned load up ProcessExplorer and check the handles tab of WoW.exe when you start it up and see what "File" fields are there if you are so paranoid that a huge corporation actually cares about your personal details. Cry me a river.

E
18-03-2007, 04:27 PM
Thing is they can put pretty much anything in the EULA and get away with it since a) no one reads it and b) we are not going to stop playing the game.

Ofcourse in the end its up to us to agree with the terms but Blizzard damn well knows they can push it really far before that (us disagreeing) happens, and thus they force **** like this down our throats. Its no-one's ****ing bussiness what my pc configuration is, no matter how nonpersonal that information is. However my sorry ass is addicted to this retarded game (I found myself killing virtual monkeys for 2 hours on end the other day... that is retarded) so I accept that they take the information. Was it for a game of patience no one would accept it.

Blizzard exploits our weakness!

WatcherZero
18-03-2007, 05:11 PM
Its a bad trend thats hitting UK ISP's too, "Unlimited downloads*" "*subject to fair use policy" which is an internal company document they dont actually release.

Tanitha
18-03-2007, 06:28 PM
Thing is they can put pretty much anything in the EULA and get away with it since a) no one reads it and b) we are not going to stop playing the game.

Well I read it - every time it changes. Same as with any other agreement with anyone, you won't sign any contract without reading it - would you?

Anyway, as to collecting information about my PC - go ahead. It is non personal, system specifications. What that gives the developers is an idea of what their customer base runs in terms of hardware. That means they can work out what the mean system specs are, thus allowing them to work on engine improvements, audio / visual effects and so on that would not severely tax the average World of Warcraft players' system.

That gives us the best graphics and sound with the least impact on frame rates. To me that sounds like a good thing. But maybe that's just me.

moopy
19-03-2007, 12:54 PM
Valve collects system information all the time with Steam.

One of the few things that I actually like about Steam- the way that you can see figures on what sort of systems the bulk of fellow players are using, out of sheer curiousity.

ChaosSaber
19-03-2007, 11:10 PM
Getting back onto topic, I notice Eye of Kilrogg (Warlock spell) seems to no longer show every MoB when you use it to explore an area. For example, we were doing Durnholde last night, right before entering the keep, and I sent the eye in to see where the patrol was. I searched the entire patrol route, saw all the stationary MoBs, but could not see the patrol until they were literally on top of the party.

Have any other locks see this or is my client bugged?

WatcherZero
21-03-2007, 02:00 AM
Been similar with priest Mind vision and presumably hunter far sight too. Slow loading of mobs around the target area. Not sure what patch this started happening, couple ago I think, though its only a minor bug it is mildly annoying isnt it.

Wintrow
21-03-2007, 11:01 AM
Thing is they can put pretty much anything in the EULA and get away with it since a) no one reads it and b) we are not going to stop playing the game.

Ofcourse in the end its up to us to agree with the terms but Blizzard damn well knows they can push it really far before that (us disagreeing) happens, and thus they force **** like this down our throats. Its no-one's ****ing bussiness what my pc configuration is, no matter how nonpersonal that information is. However my sorry ass is addicted to this retarded game (I found myself killing virtual monkeys for 2 hours on end the other day... that is retarded) so I accept that they take the information. Was it for a game of patience no one would accept it.

Blizzard exploits our weakness!

I don't mind them gathering that stuff. I'm not paranoid :wink:

I doubt they're gonna do something more with it than add it all up. And then yet, even IF they download my MRU-list from Firefox and they see 20 pornlinks and they're 'getting off' on all that 'personal' info... I still don't care.

As long as it doesn't affect me they can copy my whole harddrive.

Repeat after me:
"They are not out to get me"
"They are not out to get me"
"They are not out to get me"
...

Fursphere
21-03-2007, 05:15 PM
In regards to "privacy" concerns.

Ask yourself this.

What are you trying to hide?

rgirty
21-03-2007, 05:21 PM
In regards to "privacy" concerns.

Ask yourself this.

What are you trying to hide?

This follows the "if you aren't doing anything wrong, why do you care" mantra.

Basically that leads to glorified witch hunts, where something wrong will be found.

Kind of like a cop pulling you over, then breaking your tail light on the way to your window and giving you a ticket for it.

Fursphere
21-03-2007, 05:27 PM
What comes around, goes around.

Karma is a great thing.

Oatmealsmurf
21-03-2007, 05:31 PM
That's not the way karma works...

Fursphere
21-03-2007, 05:33 PM
Perhaps you just glazed over the "cop breaking your taillight" post?

Oatmealsmurf
21-03-2007, 05:36 PM
nope... glazed over nothing... common misconception about the whole karma thing. Just a heads up.

Fursphere
21-03-2007, 06:01 PM
Ok, you've got my interest.

Please explain. :)

Oatmealsmurf
21-03-2007, 06:12 PM
The basic gist is this...

"The accumulated moral energy of a person's life determines his or her character, class status, and disposition in the next life. In the course of a chain of lives, people can perfect themselves and reach the level of Brahma, or they can degrade themselves to the extent that they return to life as animals."

Kinda been bastardized in the western civilization to equate to the notion of what comes around goes around to the point it's become accepted as fact. Even Wikipedia has a reference to the phrase. But any Buddhist or Hindu will tell you it's not that simple.

If you're really curious do some research on it.

Fursphere
21-03-2007, 06:47 PM
I looked up the simple definition on dictionary.com, and it seems the Hindu version is 1st, but there are plenty of "bastardized" versions floating around to support the "Western" view of it.

Its kinda like the word "fag"

By definition - Its a peice of wood, or a bundle of small twigs.

In Britian, you'd be asking for a cigarette

In America, its derogatory slang towards a homosexual person.

So, just because it meant one thing at one time, doesn't mean the word/definition hasn't "evolved" over the years.

:)

Oatmealsmurf
21-03-2007, 07:49 PM
Given that it's an actively working religious tenet though it's good to keep the real definition in mind. I try not to use it now that I know is a misrepresentation of what it really is. Reason being you start talking about something like that in the wrong venue and you come off sounding completely ignorant.

Not exactly the same as faggot where there is a dictionary definition and a slang usage where you can tell 99% of the time which definition the person is referring to by the context it's used. But I get where you are coming from.

Fursphere
21-03-2007, 08:27 PM
So now that we've totally hijacked this thread.... lol

Sorry to everyone else for the thread hijack.

Oatmealsmurf - Good stuff. I'll keep everything in mind when using the term in the future. :)

Oatmealsmurf
21-03-2007, 08:34 PM
lol... yeah wasn't my intention to hi-jack either... apologies.

MadVlad
21-03-2007, 09:10 PM
So, I'm curious Oatmeal. Would it be OK to use a swastika on bumper stickers, etc, since the original Indian meaning is one of well-being?

Oatmealsmurf
21-03-2007, 09:29 PM
So as to not further hi-jack the thread... I will answer you via PM Vlad... I think you have my comments confused though.