Skin models?

[Xerxez]

Greetings,

I'm currently looking for a Human skin mod, I remember skin mods being hosted at this site before but I can't seem to find them now?

I'm currently on Horde side but I want my character have a Human Skin Model. ( I know it's stupid but I already have almost 500g on Horde side. :embarassed: )

If anyone knows a site that hosts WoW Human skins, please let me know or simply email me at Removed e-mail address

Any help would be appreciated,

Thank you.

[Caderbery]

Just a freindly tip, i wouldnt show you E-mail address, there are bots out there that look for e-mail address to send spam to.

[Valas Azuviir]

See point by Caderbury as to the why.
Vaguely recall, that the site was asked to take down those skins by Blizzard.

Moving this to the UI forum, where they'd probably have better info on this subject.

[JaedxRapture]

Changes skins/models is hacking. It's not impossible to detect, and you can be banned for it.

To that mod: I suggest closing this topic instead. As far as the ToU/EULA goes, this is worse than gold buying.

[Lothaer]

it is impossible to detect as it only changes the grapics on ur comp, the only way u can get detected is if you go around blabing about it, as for chaging them u have to extract the image from the mpq files edit them then repack them.

[Narak]

Well I wouldn't risk it, I'm fairly certain Warden checks the integrity of the mpq files and would report to Blizzard that something had been modified. Personally I don't lothaer should have posted the way round it considering this sites stance with Blizzard.

[Gealach]

Its hardly impossible to detect. All it takes is for the warden to do a checksum on your standard MPQs, then look for unauthorized ones. Takes seconds. I'm certain Blizzard does this already.

People used to hack their MPQ by removing the model for the WSG gates so they could get a head start on the other side before the official match start time. That is ostensibly the primary reason for the EULA/ToS language that bans fiddling with the game files like this. Its possible they'll look the other way if the changes are very small, but you get no guarantees.

I wonder if some percentage of the bans going around lately are actually due to slightly altered game files...

[JaedxRapture]

Well I wouldn't risk it, I'm fairly certain Warden checks the integrity of the mpq files and would report to Blizzard that something had been modified. Personally I don't lothaer should have posted the way round it considering this sites stance with Blizzard.

I'm pretty sure Warden doesn't do that. Warden is there to scan memory usage, CPU processes, etc. But regardless, it's not worth it.

Its hardly impossible to detect. All it takes is for the warden to do a checksum on your standard MPQs, then look for unauthorized ones. Takes seconds. I'm certain Blizzard does this already.

People used to hack their MPQ by removing the model for the WSG gates so they could get a head start on the other side before the official match start time. That is ostensibly the primary reason for the EULA/ToS language that bans fiddling with the game files like this. Its possible they'll look the other way if the changes are very small, but you get no guarantees.

I wonder if some percentage of the bans going around lately are actually due to slightly altered game files...

Yeah, there were a few guilds that were hacking Naxx so they could easily down the bosses they wanted to with little problem. Of course, they were banned.

Just to repeat, I'm pretty sure Warden won't check MPQs. You're safe there, but modifying them is still a risk. It's a stupid mod that just not worth it.

Edit: You can bet the bans are for a good reason. The average player doesn't read the ToU, and doesn't know that only 2 people are allowed on the account, or which two. Some people don't even realize that gold-buying is against the rules. The bans are happening for good reasons.

[Lothaer]

if you ask me BLizzard just has too much control over the game, yes they made it but we pay them to play it, with out us there is no them.

[Tanitha]

Yeah, there were a few guilds that were hacking Naxx so they could easily down the bosses they wanted to with little problem. Of course, they were banned.

Just to repeat, I'm pretty sure Warden won't check MPQs. You're safe there, but modifying them is still a risk. It's a stupid mod that just not worth it.

So hang on. Here you have a tool called Warden that verifies the integrity of World of Warcraft by checking processes, memory and so on. They are aware that hacking the MPQ files can lead to things like the Naxx exploit you mentioned. And you're suggesting they would not have Warden do something as simple as verifying a file checksum?

Why not?

[Lothaer]

all it would do is check the file size, atleast thats ill i think warden can do >< you never know what the background hacker program is doing

[Tanitha]

Greg Hoglund reverse engineered the process to discover what Warden does. It does seem, as JaedX indicated that it does not monitor MPQ files. (At least at the time of writing or perhaps Hoglund simply did not see that)

Here is a quote from what it does:


This software is known as the 'warden client' - its written like shellcode in that it's position independant. It is downloaded on the fly from Blizzard's servers, and it runs about every 15 seconds. It is one of the most interesting pieces of spyware to date, because it is designed only to verify compliance with a EULA/TOS. Here is what it does, about every 15 seconds, to about 4.5 million people (500,000 of which are logged on at any given time):

The warden dumps all the DLL's using a ToolHelp API call. It reads information from every DLL loaded in the 'world of warcraft' executable process space. No big deal.

The warden then uses the GetWindowTextA function to read the window text in the titlebar of every window. These are windows that are not in the WoW process, but any program running on your computer. Now a Big Deal.

I watched the warden sniff down the email addresses of people I was communicating with on MSN, the URL of several websites that I had open at the time, and the names of all my running programs, including those that were minimized or in the toolbar. These strings can easily contain social security numbers or credit card numbers, for example, if I have Microsoft Excel or Quickbooks open w/ my personal finances at the time.

Once these strings are obtained, they are passed through a hashing function and compared against a list of 'banning hashes' - if you match something in their list, I suspect you will get banned. For example, if you have a window titled 'WoW!Inmate' - regardless of what that window really does, it could result in a ban. If you can't believe it, make a dummy window that does nothing at all and name it this, then start WoW. It certainly will result in warden reporting you as a cheater. I really believe that reading these window titles violates privacy, considering window titles contain alot of personal data. But, we already know Blizzard Entertainment is fierce from a legal perspective. Look at what they have done to people who tried to make BNetD, freecraft, or third party WoW servers.

Next, warden opens every process running on your computer. When each program is opened, warden then calls ReadProcessMemory and reads a series of addresses - usually in the 0x0040xxxx or 0x0041xxxx range - this is the range that most executable programs on windows will place their code. Warden reads about 10-20 bytes for each test, and again hashes this and compares against a list of banning hashes. These tests are clearly designed to detect known 3rd party programs, such as wowglider and friends. Every process is read from in this way. I watched warden open my email program, and even my PGP key manager. Again, I feel this is a fairly severe violation of privacy, but what can you do? It would be very easy to devise a test where the warden clearly reads confidential or personal information without regard.


This was back in 2005 though, so who knows what Warden is doing right now?

[Logdan]

When 1.11 came out, which was about the time of the model changing lockdown, Warden started to do random CRC checks of the installation files. Also, since the information in the .mpq files do at one point move through the RAM, they are scanned there as well.

In short, don't modify the installation files.

[Xinh]

FYI, the ability to change model skins was removed from the game as of patch 1.10. Part of the problem of changing model skins is people would change the model skins of resource nodes making them MUCH easier to see, thus giving them an advantage over other players in resource gathering. Also it was possible to make opposing faction players much easier to see, again given the skin user an advantage over other players.

To those who think Blizzard has too much control over the game, remember this: Blizzard owns all content including your character. Just because you pay money to them to use that content does NOT give you the right to make demands. You are paying for the privilege of using that content, NOT the right to use the content. It is kind of like saying that since you shop at Wal-Mart, that they (Wal-Mart) should convey you around the store in a plush golf cart. You know were that leads, being shown the door.