Gold free site?

[Frylocks]

This site is owned by IGE, how is it gold free lol

EDIT - Once banned, you stay banned, you know this already. No creating second accounts whether it's to give us a good laugh or not. Thanks, Elly

[Kalos]

Because this site isn't owned by IGE. Your source of information is either very secretive, or wrong. Public knowledge indicates LoadedInc to have never been bought or run by IGE; meaning they don't run these forums or the main site.

[Altaris]

Wow. What a first post...

[Rex Normal]

And a last post too I'm sure

[SMeeD]

Probably, they sounded like they were here to instigate but quickly got owned by Kalos.

[Altaris]

Probably, they sounded like they were here to instigate but quickly got owned by Kalos.

Indeed. /cheer Kalos!

[Valas Azuviir]

:annoyed:

Ok.. Either you provide some proof, or else I'll be seeing this as a Commandment 1 violation.


1. Thou Shalt Not Flame or Troll. Even if you strongly hate the content of a post, and detest the individual to whom you're responding so strongly you dream of seeing Murlocs playing football with his internal organs, please exercise restraint and post without flames. (You are allowed, however, to make rude facial expressions and socially unacceptable hand gestures as you press "submit.") Do not bypass the word filter.

Your behaviour is judged not just here, but elsewhere. If you slander or libel this site or the site staff on another website, forum, or by other public means, your membership in WorldofWar.Net's forums may be terminated without notice.


And considering the mood I've been in lately.

*Applies Adamantite Weightstone to the Baka Hammer*

:annoyed:

[xDarkDrifterx]

Domain Name: WORLDOFWAR.NET
Registrar: NETWORK SOLUTIONS, LLC.
Whois Server: whois.networksolutions.com
Referral URL: http://www.networksolutions.com
Name Server: NS1.LOADEDINC.COM
Name Server: NS2.LOADEDINC.COM
Status: clientTransferProhibited
Updated Date: 05-sep-2006
Creation Date: 04-sep-2001
Expiration Date: 04-sep-2007

Domain Name: LOADEDINC.COM
Registrar: WILD WEST DOMAINS, INC.
Whois Server: whois.wildwestdomains.com
Referral URL: http://www.wildwestdomains.com
Name Server: NS1.LOADEDINC.COM
Name Server: NS2.LOADEDINC.COM
Status: clientRenewProhibited
Status: clientTransferProhibited
Status: clientUpdateProhibited
Status: clientDeleteProhibited
Updated Date: 07-jul-2006
Creation Date: 03-jul-2001
Expiration Date: 03-jul-2008

Domain Name: WILDWESTDOMAINS.COM
Registrar: WILD WEST DOMAINS, INC.
Whois Server: whois.wildwestdomains.com
Referral URL: http://www.wildwestdomains.com
Name Server: CNS1.SECURESERVER.NET
Name Server: CNS2.SECURESERVER.NET
Name Server: CNS3.SECURESERVER.NET
Status: clientRenewProhibited
Status: clientTransferProhibited
Status: clientUpdateProhibited
Status: clientDeleteProhibited
Updated Date: 15-jul-2006
Creation Date: 22-aug-2000
Expiration Date: 22-jul-2012

I see no IGE here . . . lol - Nice first post :laughing:

[Xlorep DarkHelm]

Your attempt to troll has failed.

This almost reminds me of a situation in an old RPG I ran. One of the players kept asking "why" at inopportune moments. I finally got tired of it, when he asked why in the next fight (I forget what it was about specifically), " responded with "You drop your sword, raise your arms with your palms open to the sky, lifting your head you shout out 'WHY?'; you get no response, but meanwhile, you are hit again." and explained that he spent his entire turn in that combat doing this.

Why this reminds me of that particular session is simple. I can see the OP saying "Why?!" to all of the immediate roadblocks that arose in this thread. Meanwhile, Valas Azuviir attacks again.

[Aerath]

Quite a pointless post.

Elly and Rushster have had the offer (much like allakhazam, who did take the big sack of shinies) and turned it down. Not much more to it.

I'll leave this thread open as a way for the op to hang himself in the unlikely event he does return.

[moopy]

*Applies Adamantite Weightstone to the Baka Hammer*

Baka gaijin for the use of?

[maladroit2000]

What is IGE?

[Aswer]

What is IGE?

A company that makes its living (and what a living) on offering MMORPG services and gold for real money - something that is not only in direct violation of the ToS (EULA, etc) of 99% of MMORPGs, but also affects the economies of these games brutally by introducing an external currency and affecting prices for everyone.

They own two of the famous WoW websites, hint being that linking to both of these is prohibited here (though most of us have done it unknowingly at some point).

There is en entry in Wikipedia for more info.

[Valas Azuviir]

Baka gaijin for the use of?

Pretty much..
I've been getting the distinct impression as of about 60 bannees ago, that folks just weren't getting the hint. When that happens, about the only thing you can do, is to get a bigger hammer to drive the point home. :grin:

[Altaris]

Pretty much..
I've been getting the distinct impression as of about 60 bannees ago, that folks just weren't getting the hint. When that happens, about the only thing you can do, is to get a bigger hammer to drive the point home. :grin:

I'm always in favor of a bigger hammer. For any fellow DnD players... I currently play a goliath with monkey grip. Just need to figure out how to increase my own size next, so I get to gargantuan hammers. :thumbsup:

[ferofax]

...ok wait, im confused. i get the baka part, but the gaijin part, no... stupid foreigner? :ponder:

[moopy]

Pretty much..
I've been getting the distinct impression as of about 60 bannees ago, that folks just weren't getting the hint. When that happens, about the only thing you can do, is to get a bigger hammer to drive the point home. :grin:

When you only have a hammer, you tend to see every problem as a nail, after all :)

"Rawr! Me smash human!"

[FryFry]

Here is some info on my post, i was banned without able to reply to anyone that
has emailed me.

http://digg.com/gaming_news/Allakhazam_Exposed:_The_Truth_about_IGE
http://www.ytmnd.com/keyword/IGE
http://wowbreak.com/links/Alternatives_to_Zam_com

Alakazam and ige

http://www.allakhazam.com/forum.html?forum=3;mid=114668646932202500;num=0;page=1

world of war and ige

http://wow.azzor.com/445/truth_about_IGE.php

Story

The truth about IGE and the gold industry
Gold Selling.

To players like me, nothing is more corrupting than selling. In a virtual world where you are suppoused to earn your your status, some people like to take shortcuts, ruining the game for others (farming anyone?) After my recent post about what IGE owned, I got a lot of positive emails, thanking me for the info. With that feedback in mind, I decided to delve a bit deeper into IGE.

PLEASE NOTE: This has involved a lot of research. Archive.org, whois.sc WHOIS history, talking to people, investigating relationships. It has been an intensive process, and I have documented all that I could (and relied on reliable sources when I couldn't).

In the Beginning

IGE.com was originally used by an imagine processing company. Sometime in the middle of 2003, the company sprung up. While their original history is a bit muddled, the creation of the company is a bit quizzical. The company was founded by Brock Pierce, who was a child actor (his most famous movie being First Kid, with Sinbad). Originally based in Spain, the commpany moved to Hong Kong (I have verified by sources that is where they started). There was an internet rumor/article that later went on claiming that Brock's former partners (from a company called DEN) were infact child molestors. This culminated in the following vulgar flash video (NSFW). Some quotable news pieces:


DEN Founder Marc Collins-Rector Arrested in Spain After Two-Year Manhunt
- VentureReporter.net Monday, May 20, 2002, 4:15 PM ET



SIX-MINUTE SHOWS. Although they weren't named in the suit, DEN co-founders Chad M. Shackley, 24, and Brock Pierce, 18, also resigned. Company officials say they left with Collins-Rector because the trio is closely aligned and plans to start a new data-storage business.


As a (related) aside, DEN was one of the most spectacular flameouts on the web. An interesting read is the ****edCompany board.

So Brock was management in a company that fleeced millions, happened to be in Spain where Collins-Rector was also, and then moved the company to HK right after he got arrested? Interesting bit of coincidences.

With that vulgar picture in mind, we take a break, and look at hte original pioneer.

Gold Industry begins with Yantis

Selling virtual currency was nothing new when Brock came rolling in. eBay had tons of auctions for UO Gold (and still has quite a few). Yet what really got the market going was a Mr. Jonathan Yantis, of MySuperSales fame.

Originally starting with EverQuest, Yantis (as he was referred to) quickly became a villian in the game. Looking to broaden his appeal, Yantis bought out Monkly-Business, which was the favorite hangout for EQ Monks. Gaining more traffic from this, he then expanded and bought out Luclin.com and Prexus.com

What ensued was a firestorm. While M-B had been left alone, Yantis directly moderated the newly bought boards. Removing all bad press about himself, and seeding in threads about how great his service was, the two sites were completely dead within weeks, all links changing from the original sites to newly ones created by users. Yantis had tried using his money to buy part of the market, and he had failed.

This all happened before IGE even existed on the radar.

At this time, Yantis had successfully become the biggest player in the market. Dominating the marketplace at PlayerAuctions.com (Sony had successfully gotten eBay to remove all EQ auctions, and thus people used this site instead), he had also begun to aggressively advertise on other sites. With a 10% comission and a rumored 40% profit margin, Yantis was sitting pretty.

Then came IGE. Well-financed, the company started making inroads into the market. A professional service equal to Yantis, they started to gain market share.

Yantis was not sitting idly. For all the money he (and IGE) were making, their exposure was still very little. He owned a few sites, advertised on a few (but none of the big ones), and was paying quite a bit to advertise through Google and and Goto/Overture. It was with the introduction of IGE that in late 2002 Yantis started playing the SEO game.

A lot of SEO (search engine optimization) can be cast as spam. Stuffing their page with keywords, buying links from pages with high PageRank, these specialists game the system so that their sites show up on top of search engine results. (Please note: A lot of SEOers are great people, who don't spam or whore sites. But an equally large portion is a shady underbelly of the internet).

Suddenly Yantis was getting tons of traffic from search engines. He even broke top 10 on google for the word 'everquest', displacing quality sites with his platinum-selling storefront.

So while Yantis was rapidly getting new customers, whats a competitor to do?

And so begun a movement engineered by IGE to discredit Yantis. While Yantis was marked as being an individual using exploits and dupes to create gold, IGE set themselves up as the 'conscientous' choice, a good and moral company that didn't employ and farmers and just paid wholesalers.

Yes, I'm serious. The sentiment actually shifted with Yantis being blamed for all of EQ's ills and IGE looked up as a 'good' alternative.

But that didn't stop Yantis. Far from it. He kept growing and growing. IGE was also growing (and building contacts with game providers), but was still second to Yantis.

And so this continued until end of 2003. Suddenly MySuperSales went offline. Was all that money making just a mirage?

Not even close. While I cannot trace it specifically to IGE, the attack worked. Whois history shows Yantis suddenly moving to Rackspace after the worm was identified. You can see that Symantec marked its distribution high, so whoever put this out did a good job. Almost sounds like online rackateering.

But this worm was just a preview of the upcoming fierce battle.

Yantis begins acquiring MMO websites

Around New Year's of 2004, while everyone at SOE was busy eating and sleeping, Yantis announced the acquisition of a few sites. Starting with EQBeastlord and EQDruids, the sites had suddenly sold out to Yantis. But this time, instead of moderating the forums, Yantis opted to just stick his banner on the site, and leave it alone. A smart move - most newbies would end up just viewing the content anyway, missing all the *****ing happening in the forums. And since he wasn't moderating the sites, a lot of the links never got removed.

And so began a movement that finally broke down the barrier and made currency selling common.

Happy with the results from the first days, Yantis started snapping up websites left and right. Before SOE even new what had happened, half a dozen class websites were under Yantis' ownership. And he wasn't done - not even close. Over the next few weeks, deals were made, only to be broken by IGE waving around money. The peak (with EQ) came with interealms.com - the largest forum community, it suppousedly went for over $50,000. What made this even more nuts was that Yantis had already bought and paid for the site. The owner actually returned the wire transfer and stated that Yantis, enraged with what had happened, actually threatened to sue him for breach of contract.

Along the way, in continuing to develop its relationship with game developers, IGE hired Themis Group, an MMO consulting company. After a fierce backlash, the company removed all signs of the deal ever having occured. Themis Group also owns the WarCry Network.

That never happened, as what happened next blew most people's minds.

IGE buys out Yantis

In the middle of this frenzy, where Yantis acquired 75% of the websites, IGE 25%, and SOE only moving to help out EQInterface (paying them over $10k/month!), a stunning announcement came: IGE had purchased MySuperSales.

Announced on January 22, 2004, the rumored value was that IGE had paid $10 million to Yantis. Of course, my sources confirmed this was not true. Instead what had happened was that Yantis (whose revenue was actually twice that of IGE) had not only realized that his image was tarnished, but also that with them competing with each other and the market growing, it was easier (and likely more profitable) to work together. The end result was that MySuperSales (a brand with a negative stigma) ceased to be actively promoted. In turn, Yantis became the biggest shareholder in IGE, and IGE started to use his backend (and suppliers). So much for the 'Yantis is an exploiter' idea. A funny aside is that IGE had used a lot of money to lure people from Yantis' side to IGE. These people were promptly fired.

At this time IGE had now become a juggernaut. With their management team (Brock as deal-making/schmoozing CEO, Alan as the president, Yantis for strategy/existing infrastructure, and Randy as their general counsel), IGE continued to grow while devouring its competition.

IGE's only visible competition at this time was Team-VIP. Suppousedly holding out for a million dollars, the company was suddenly engulfed by fraud and ceased to exist. The domain and site are now backup again, except this time owned by IGE.

At the same time, IGE had continued buying up marquee sites. While snapping up large sites like L2orphus.com for a reported $5000 (and generating that much in sales every day), the big payday came when IGE successfully purchased ThottBot. By far the most popular WoW website, it went for a reported $100,000, with Bill (Thott) hired at a $100,000/year salary. Not only did this give IGE the most trafficked MMO site on the internet, it also gave it a lot of leverage against Blizzard.

While all this was happening, IGE was still busy expanding. Hiring well-connected talent from other companies (such as Stephen Salyer, a Vice President at both Ubisoft and EA). This was a concentrated effort by them - connect and brand with users through MMO websites, and connect and establish relationships with developers through their hired executives.

And all around this time came the acquisition of OGaming. An upcoming network, IGE's latest purchase continued the trend of buying their way to prospective gold-buying customers. RPG Holdings was created as a new company that owns all MMO-fansite assets. IGE began to start advertising in magazines, and worked hard to hide the ogaming<-->IGE connection, and the Thottbot<-->ogaming connection. To their dismay, this relationship was exposed.

To further a positive image within the MMO community, a fake interview was put up on OGaming to push their agenda (this has since been deleted, but can still be viewed in the internet archive ).

Present Day

Today IGE stands as a monsterous multimillion dollar operation with a stranglehold over the MMO gold industry. Some recent events of interest to gamers include:


IGE made a fake bid of $60k a few months back for a vanguard site just to confuse/scare Sigil Games.

IGE has acquired key domains, including ffxi.com, daoc.com, mxo.com, eq.com

Yantis leaves the company, suppousedly 36 million dollar payday (but over 3 years).

IGE acquires other companies, including Enotts and ezgaming

Originally working on deals with SOE, Linden Labs, and WB, all three fall through as SOE launches its own system, Linden does its own thing, and WB sells MxO to SOE.

IGE continues picking up executives from Yahoo! and Vivendi Universal (owners of Blizzard) (press page)

IGE, suppousedly bleeding money and unable to afford Yantis payment (estimated 1 million/month) releases him from non-compete. Yantis creates GamerKing, with a wholesale deal with IGE, and immediately starts stealing away IGE affiliates and trying to buy out websites.

Mogs and Lewt emerge as new competition, IGE talking to both Mogs and Lewt about a buyout.


If that isn't enough activity for you, here's the big news:

IGE acquires Allakhazam.

The deal happened in complete secrecy in about November 2005. Even many IGE employees were kept in the dark of the deal that was almost certainly worth millions.

IGE's OGaming had been bleeding money, and IGE was looking for a new website strategy. After adding gold currency ads to sites like thottbot and Ogaming, IGE shopped Ogaming around to investers but no one bought in. Thottbot and OGaming take up over 100 servers.

The Spin

Working to integrate all of their web properties (Ogaming, Thottbot, and Allakhazam), IGE today announced plans to create a new super-network, Zam.com. This new MMO network is being spun to the community as if Allakhazam had purchased Ogaming when it was himself who was bought out. We thought the truth should be known.

Read Allakhazam's spin for yourself.


More news as it develops. Stay tuned. Please help spread the word by DIGGing this article!

as far as making a new account to log in, that was my only account i have never been banned except from that time in this post... thanks for no warning or anything and your pob. going to lock or delete this thread and ill be banned again because the facts are there thus me being banned.

i didint make this but lol
http://igebuysworldofwar.ytmnd.com/

[OneMadOgre]

When you only have a hammer, you tend to see every problem as a nail, after all :)

"Rawr! Me smash human!"

Hey! That's my line.

I worked way too hard on this site and with too few resources to do much more than laugh at you. I've never met people more opposed to the type of work that IGE does in the name of profiting than Rush and Elly in all my time working the fansite.

as far as making a new account to log in, that was my only account i have never been banned except from that time in this post... thanks for no warning or anything and your pob. going to lock or delete this thread and ill be banned again because the facts are there thus me being banned.

Dude. Read the articles you linked. Warcry != LoadedInc

At least if you're going to go around screaming foolish things and telling people to read them, you might want to read them yourself. Just a thought. Unless you're seriously trying to submit someone's photoshop work as evidence. Oh Noes! Google ads showed gold ads. Google must be owned by IGE too!! No one use Google!!

[Your Average WoW Player]

Holy ****ing ****! It's OneMadOgre! Haven't seen this guy in a while.

Now that you mention it... I miss R++ and Toader and there where a few other ones that were regulars. Damn what happened to those oldies?

Edit: Hijacking evil threads for the purpose of good! FTW!

[OneMadOgre]

I still lurk. :)

It takes a special kind of stupidity to get me to post though apparently.

[Rex Normal]

I couldn't bare to actually read that boring article, so I just did a "find" to search for worldofwar to see where it references this site. nothing came up. So your point is???

[Kalos]

I read through that. There's no evidence on this site of a connection to IGE, not even suggested in that story. Can you care to point out which section supposidly indicates worldofwar.net to be aligned with IGE? Other than a huge waste of space that was a historical summary of the whole IGE company, let's hear something specific to your accusation.

[Xlorep DarkHelm]

That article, like OMO said, makes no reference to LoadedInc nor to worldofwar.net. So, it definitely is an exercise in stupidity.

[Xaintrix]

Might i just slip in given that recent gold spammer that the mod response time is total rockstar? : )

[Valas Azuviir]

as far as making a new account to log in, that was my only account i have never been banned except from that time in this post... thanks for no warning or anything and your pob. going to lock or delete this thread and ill be banned again because the facts are there thus me being banned.


Nope, you're getting banned for a) breaking our appeal a permaban with the administrators rule: See Commandment 7 (http://forums.worldofwar.net/rules/), b) the back to back posting: See commandment 2 (http://forums.worldofwar.net/rules/) (merging threads means more work for us Mods and we got enough to do as is), and c) Libeling the site: Commandment 1 (http://forums.worldofwar.net/rules/) (and I warned you about this before, the article you quoted said nothing about us what so ever.

Heck, the Azor guys consider us the right honourable opposition, as opposed to the IGE-aligned sites for whom they've got some less than flattering things to say).

And, if you don't know the difference between us and Warcry.. Well.. Should've doublechecked your facts before spreading rumours.

As for the google adds, that was during the advertising agency switch over process. Some naughty google adds got through, folks notified the Admins, they yelled at the new agency, adds were removed.

Now hold still....


*WHAAAAM*

*Sweeps dust under carpet*

Might i just slip in given that recent gold spammer that the mod response time is total rockstar? : )

Eh, it's more the spammer's fault than us being so great. I mean they picked a time spot when a number of us are online. It's like being surprised that a level 10 character is going to get mobbed by a baker's dozen of level 30 murlocks. :grin:

[Your Average WoW Player]

Nope, you're getting banned for a) breaking our appeal a permaban with the administrators rule: See Commandment 7 (http://forums.worldofwar.net/rules/), b) the back to back posting: See commandment 2 (http://forums.worldofwar.net/rules/) (merging threads means more work for us Mods and we got enough to do as is), and c) Libeling the site: Commandment 1 (http://forums.worldofwar.net/rules/) (and I warned you about this before, the article you quoted said nothing about us what so ever.

Quoted for Truth