for raising gold

[waytofailself]

question: do you think it is more efficient to quest or to grind items for gold? i'm trying to raise 5k for flight training so that I can go for epic flight form. i've heard plenty about making the auction house work for me, but I can't do that 24/7.

thanks for your input.

[Mallstrop]

Grinding herbs in outlands seems to be the best option at the moment, especially in Netherstorm or Shadowmoon valley, some of the stacks go for 50g on my server.

Personally, I took advantage of the crazy prices when TBC came out and got my epic mount not long after hitting 70.

[waytofailself]

i probably should mention that i'm mining/jewelcrafting -- so i'm not sure if gathering herbs will help. mining might hit the spot.

seems more practical than questing though.

[DevilDare]

oooh jewelcrafting i think u went wrong here. On my server i see about 2 ppl a day selling gems and not many ppl buy it. Minning is good, herbalism never liked it. If u willing to spend some money grab tailoring my mate lvl 70 mage says there is a skills that when u do it on ah it goes 150+ but its cooldown is like 1-2 days. Not sure thou.

[kcma]

question: do you think it is more efficient to quest or to grind items for gold? i'm trying to raise 5k for flight training so that I can go for epic flight form. i've heard plenty about making the auction house work for me, but I can't do that 24/7.

thanks for your input.

AH is fastest. i make 100+g a day spending less than 20 min in game. nothing else will give u as much gold as fast.

[SLUGFly]

I'm starting to get into the groove of the AH also. I don't make nearly as much as kc, but I manage to scrape up about 50g every couple days. This is only auctioning my drops and occasionally (rarely) buying and reselling. When I've got the cash to float then I'll likely start buying and reselling but my first priority for cash is getting my profs up, full bank-bag space and all skills caught up.

[Urbanink]

AH? Lil help? lol

[Gekothan]

Of course not everyone is as good at the AH as the almighty kcma. ^^ Herbalism is very nice these days if you have the time to level it up.

[Tanitha]

AH? Lil help? lol

AH. Lil search. rofl.

(The thread you are looking for is right here (http://forums.worldofwar.net/showthread.php?t=371401&goto=newpost) ... although ... yeah)

[kcma]

not that mighty gekothan :p just judiciously excercising that common sense that we all have :)

[Athame]

If everyone was just relisting items on the ah all day, nobody would make any money except the house. I quest for cash mostly, you can easily get 500g questing on a day at 70 and it's a heap more fun to me than 'farming' the auction house.

[kcma]

hey, just like IRL, someone's gotta make minimal wage @ macdonald's to sustain those trading $$ :)

let's say you play 10 hours a day. 5 quests an hour. that's 50 quests for 10g a quest. feel free to do that while i spend 10-20 min and make 100+g in that span :)

[Athame]

Stupid comparison in my opinion, because a leisure activity is the opposite of a job. You're the one doing the menial labour in my eyes, mostly involving running back and forth between mail boxes and auctioneers. We're already losing (real) money here, the idea is to have fun. If for you that is playing the auction house that is fine.

Quests in Netherstorm for example all give 11g-20g, sometimes with rewards on top, add drops and veins/herbs and you definately do not have to do 50 quests for that kind of cash. On top of that, you get to go out and have fun.

[Drevan]

I agree with Athame. Doing the quests post 70 gives you a good 10 - 20+ gold... sometimes for walking across a room or a few feet away and talking to someone else... The best advice would be to do all the quests you can find, you can get good drops doing this and professions mats as well. Turn around and then spend those 20 minutes on teh AH selling those drops and mats and maybe even doing a little buy/sell.

If you have done all the quests you can and are looking for a way to make money then yes AH would be my first choice along with a little grinding on mobs as well. Just take a look at what is selling good on your server, then find the mobs that drop that if applicable and go farm them. (ie primals)

But I think your best bet is to do every quest you can, and take a little time out of your day to do a little AHing. That nice gold boost from turning in a group of quests will really brighten your day :)

[waytofailself]

so...can i repost my question since people just decided to get on the troll train? i do appreciate the actual information that people gave me, but i already do use auctioneer and post auctions and all that stuff.

however, i'm still looking to crank out $$$ as i'm waiting for those to happen. would you advise that I just grind places to list on the AH, or is questing a viable idea?

thanks again. i think i'm starting to get a general consensus. i still have a whole ton in netherstorm left and a bit less in smv.

[Drevan]

You can grind out mobs for cash but you are depending on certain drops to occur usually to make it worthwhile (ie waiting for motes to drop) problem is that you are relying on luck for this. 3 motes can drop in an hour or 33 can. It depends on where you want to grind and who else is there doing the same thing. However with those quests you know if you kill these mobs and talk to this guy, and then kill this mob over there and turn those in you will get X amount of cash... its not as much reliant on luck.

So I'd say doing the quests would be more viable than just grinding because like you said you already use teh AH to post up your drops, and chances are that you will still get some while questing plus quest loot that are either upgrades or sellable for 7-8+ g as well plus the g for teh quest turnins... I'd say do the quests till they are gone and see where you are at money wise.

[kcma]

so...can i repost my question since people just decided to get on the troll train? i do appreciate the actual information that people gave me, but i already do use auctioneer and post auctions and all that stuff.

however, i'm still looking to crank out $$$ as i'm waiting for those to happen. would you advise that I just grind places to list on the AH, or is questing a viable idea?

thanks again. i think i'm starting to get a general consensus. i still have a whole ton in netherstorm left and a bit less in smv.

when you ask a question like that, i'm just going to assume that you're a lazy ____ and AH wont work for you. go grind or quest.

and to Athame, nope, it's very similar to RL where most ppl grind their gold from killing things and questing. then a few comes in and facilitate the moving of gold while making more gold in the process. 500g a day right? 10 hours of playing? sure, you do that, making it 50g an hour, that's you performing a task bound by numbers of quests you can complete in an hour.

while most of you do that, few like me work the AH and make 100g in 10-20 min doing a few simple trades. so, feel free to grind out 500g a day, ppl like me need more ppl like you, so i dont have to grind and quest all day for 500g. i'll make a few simple trades and BAM, gold.

sure wow is not RL, but the principles apply in wow just like they do in RL. and just like RL, you do what you enjoy. is everyone gonna be a trader? no, i was making 150-300/hr as a freelance photographer/art director, and i take a pay cut down to 10/hr in a restaurant to do something i enjoy. would i enjoy trading bonds and stocks? no i won't, and no $$ would move me into that field.

but, there is no denying that the big money is in those who trade. you're not bound by time or hourly maximum. ppl who trade are only bound by the amount of gold being moved around. so no, it's a perfectly legit comparison that you just can't relate to :)

[Justinledwards]

Well, I play the AH for two reasons:
- it's a safe source of money. I'm making money on gems and enchanting at the moment - I am up about 700g on a couple of chars, my best was 1000g in 3 days. Same sort of time investment as kcma.
- Can buy whatever I need makes questing a lot easier. outlands greens and blues, Mongoose and onslaught are expensive - but being able to take on 6 level 61s in HP at 58? Priceless :)
- I picked up the plans for an epic helm cheaply and had it made - meant buying 32 primals (air and water). Ever gone out grinding primals... eugh. My best I managed about 15 motes on my hunter before I fell asleep :)

Cash from questing doesn't really make much of a difference in the day to day - also my strategy is to save as many quests as possible till I have run out of reputation from kills, save some of the rep grind at 70.

[Athame]

Never mind.

[mesonm]

i probably should mention that i'm mining/jewelcrafting -- so i'm not sure if gathering herbs will help. mining might hit the spot.

seems more practical than questing though.

Mine adamantite and prospect it for gems...then cut the gems.

I make more than 200g a day (less than an hour of work) doing that.

[Penny]

question: do you think it is more efficient to quest or to grind items for gold?grind. I get pretty good returns on cobra scales and motes, about 100 gold / hr. on a good day. I just farm for an hour, couple of hours a week. I'm leveling up my < 70 pets at the same time, it works out well.

[meikyo]

Grinding is pretty boring. Besides, when you're questing you're basically grinding anyway...at 70 you get decent chunk of gold(11-24g), sometimes rep, and to top it off sometimes you get an item to sell for another 7ish gold. While you're questing not only are you grinding mobs, but you harvest along the way. With the gold I made leveling up, it only took me about another 2 weeks at 70 to get my epic flier. What is this AH manipulation? It sounds to me like a buy and resell aka screwing others out of buying stuff at reasonable prices. I wouldn't want to be that guy.

p.s. Telling other's how you make money beside questing usually is a bad idea since it can ultimately cut into your profits. I do have some special areas I farm for things at for my professions but would never share that.

[DraedynLei]

everyone seems to say do this, do that. i do all of em quite honestly. the longest i can farm is an hour straight. after that i start to go crazy. but usually i can push out about 100g/hr that way. i also play the AH, when i happen to be in SW and dont want to see another mana wraith or sunfury whatever. shards and other reagents. also lately i'm one of the major bag makers on my server. i guess all the other 300+ tailors dont need gold anymore. i use the cloth i get from farming or i just buy it straight from the AH and make them right there. i haven't quested as much since i hit 70. still on my netherstorm quests. but questing is easily 50-100g/hr if you factor in quest rewards, cash, drops, etc... it helps that i can DE my soulbound junk rewards and cheap greens. the thing that makes absolutely no money though is running instances. of course you can get upgrades there which make other things easier. find out what works for you and do that. gold really is easy to come by in TBC.

p.s. Telling other's how you make money beside questing usually is a bad idea since it can ultimately cut into your profits. I do have some special areas I farm for things at for my professions but would never share that.

only if they're on your server :) plus its not like anyone can be there 24/7. its virtual gold. there's enough to go around.

[Distec]

Playing AH is like playing the stock market. You need a good pool of money and a bit of skill and luck. You have potential to make a lot. You also have a potential to lose a lot. Most players are smart and don't pay inflated prices - if you are trying to control the market be prepared.

Grinding materials makes a decent amount of money. Cloth and leather go for a good amount on AH because people need a TON of it for leatherworking/tailoring, so its always in demand. Same thing for ore for blacksmithing/jewelcrafting or herbs for alchemy. Motes are also needed for alchemy and tailoring - those can be good to grind as well. I prefer grinding for materials over gathering materials - mobs respawn faster than nodes, plus mob drops return money.

[DraedynLei]

Playing AH is like playing the stock market. You need a good pool of money and a bit of skill and luck. You have potential to make a lot. You also have a potential to lose a lot. Most players are smart and don't pay inflated prices - if you are trying to control the market be prepared.

a more apt analogy would probably be its like the commodities market, because that's exactly what it is. pure supply and demand. in the stock market you buy a percentage of a company and your profit is perception based. if people feel the company is performing well, or is a good buy, it's stock price will rise. now sadly, once you list something on the AH, if the demand of it goes up, what you listed it at is what you're going to get for it. unless of course you relist. there isn't really that much luck involved. sure there might be a little to find a really sweet deal. but the stuff you do every day on a massive scale, pulling 20-30% profit, requires no luck at all. i'll give a quick example of this. 24 netherweave cloth costs ~5.5g on my server. Rune thread costs 0.45s. Netherweave bags sell for 10g buy out. That's 4g profit a bag. I sell about 10 a day because that's all i can't be bothered to make more. But blizz really helped out tailors by making these guys BoE. i got a few of these rotes i go through each time i hit the AH.

[DrOsmius]

however, i'm still looking to crank out $$$ as i'm waiting for those to happen. would you advise that I just grind places to list on the AH, or is questing a viable idea?.

I just took the last 15-20days focused on gaining this cash myself. What I did?

a) zoom thru all the quests in Nether & some in SMV
b) herb when I can (quick runs from Shatt thru Terokkar & herbing while in Nether)
c) mote farming: water, fire and mana

I did all three. Terokkar cones & netherbloom were most profitable, but you can't do that for hours at end. Fire farming was probably the best, as long as there aren't too many competitors..and it was nice to drop in for 10-15 min sessions when I could (same as an herb run thru Tero).

Key is to stay focused and use an AH alt. And if this piddly pve-spec disc/holy priest can make 100+g/hr, so can you.

[waytofailself]

thanks again for the responses. very helpful stuff. and yeah, i'm just starting with the AH stuff so i'm still getting the hang of it and not being too risky, but it's just good to get others opinions before i spend hours not getting as much as i could.

hope others find this thread helpful as well :)

[kcma]

Playing AH is like playing the stock market. You need a good pool of money and a bit of skill and luck. You have potential to make a lot. You also have a potential to lose a lot. Most players are smart and don't pay inflated prices - if you are trying to control the market be prepared.

Grinding materials makes a decent amount of money. Cloth and leather go for a good amount on AH because people need a TON of it for leatherworking/tailoring, so its always in demand. Same thing for ore for blacksmithing/jewelcrafting or herbs for alchemy. Motes are also needed for alchemy and tailoring - those can be good to grind as well. I prefer grinding for materials over gathering materials - mobs respawn faster than nodes, plus mob drops return money.

DL is right, it's more like a commodity market :)

and no you don't need a sizeable cash to start :) i make my gold while lvling my enchanting everytime i reroll. and i always start with nothing :p

[BaAlzaemon]

thanks again for the responses. very helpful stuff. and yeah, i'm just starting with the AH stuff so i'm still getting the hang of it and not being too risky, but it's just good to get others opinions before i spend hours not getting as much as i could. hope others find this thread helpful as well :)

One thing that may help you as you're testing out the murky waters of the auction house is a log.

Set something up in an accounting format that lists what you're bidding on, what you're buying out, what you're selling, what you're reselling and quantities. Keep track of your gold flow in and out. That will let you track what practices are making the you the most money. Eventually you'll be able to do it all on the fly. I still list standard weekend market prices for some of the more uncommon items on the whiteboard near my computer so I know how to purchase through the week.

[Kooran]

AH can get you a decent amount, a guy in org asked me how to make his pet happy, and he seemed rather flustered, i let him know to go to the hunter trainer, when he came back I gave him 3 runecloth bags, 20g a heap of meat and other assorted weapons and gear from the AH (including a lil timmy peashotter), he asked how i made money so I told him about the AH and told him not to spend teh 20g, but to research and invest it, let him know about auctioneer etc.

In the space of about 2-3 weeks he has fully twinked his first character for teh 29 bracket, that includes the enchants that he needs to make it a proper twink (librams etc), which is a fair bit of gold.

Now this is from a guy that needed the COD system explained 3 weeks ago.

[memetootoo]

You can also try farming primals, I usually net about 5-10 an hour. They can sell anywhere from 20-40g per primal. Air seems to be closer to 40, while fire stays around mid 25.

I have a hard time investing in the AH, I usually use the search function to look for deals, but never find to much. I've never tried to corner the market, or looked for certain items in the AH though.

[kcma]

nah, AH is quick once you know what you're looking for. i never spend mroe than 10-20min on any given session in AH :)

[DrOsmius]

You can also try farming primals, I usually net about 5-10 an hour. They can sell anywhere from 20-40g per primal. Air seems to be closer to 40, while fire stays around mid 25.

I have a hard time investing in the AH, I usually use the search function to look for deals, but never find to much. I've never tried to corner the market, or looked for certain items in the AH though.

I too have made some efforts, and found little to gain without larger investments of time than I want to give. My suspicion is that being an older RP-PVE server, we have a larger-than-average-for-WoW percentage of older and mature players (and my experience bears this out as well...I rarely come across anyone under 20), and therefore, a larger number that use the AH intelligently....meaning there are much less easy pickings available, and it seems all the pickings require some clear effort...effort that I'd rather devote to doing instances and quests.

[kcma]

nah, i've done this on every single kind of realm... gold is always there to be made. of course if you make enough questing and instancing, good for you, dont worry about it :)

[rgirty]

question: do you think it is more efficient to quest or to grind items for gold? i'm trying to raise 5k for flight training so that I can go for epic flight form. i've heard plenty about making the auction house work for me, but I can't do that 24/7.

thanks for your input.

Do what you enjoy, if you enjoy questing that is the fastest. The rewards are good, the trash from the mobs sells well and the quest items de/vendor well if you don't use them. You might actually find some you use. If you have your regular flying mount netherstorm and shadowmoon have some fairly easy quests. Getting the "bring me 9 hogs eyes" quests then grinding the hogs for a bit are the most profitable.

I have actually performed some of these, as much as I hate quests just to see what its like... ugh

[murderousmic]

I don't use the AH method like some people, I will buy the occasional item if I'm familiar with the demand but I usually just farm if I need a lot of gold quickly.

I mine and can make 100g per hour easily, although it gets tedious to do that much farming and helps to break it up by throwing some grinding and questing into the mix.

Find a good spot and just do laps. By the time you get back to a node you already hit 10 mins ago it will respawn. I recently found the best spot yet and I can just ride in big circles and mine fel iron. I've made about 400g in 2-3 hours while at the same time leveling up my mining skill from 300-375.

This spot has no mobs to slow me down, lots of nodes, high respawn rate, and no competition. I've never seen anyone else there yet. I get Fel Iron which go for around 10g a stack, motes of fire (after I get 10 I make Primal Fire) and Primal Fire sells for 25g easily. Motes of Earth to make Primal Earth go for about 5g, Eternium Ore which sells for around 3g, Deep Peridot, and a bunch of other stuff which will sell for around 1-3g. The motes of fire from fel iron nodes have a the best drop rate in the game, around 70%, and are always in demand.

If you want, PM me and I'll reveal my spot as long as you're not on my server :)

[Xmcdaniel]

everyone seems to say do this, do that. i do all of em quite honestly. the longest i can farm is an hour straight. after that i start to go crazy. but usually i can push out about 100g/hr that way. i also play the AH, when i happen to be in SW and dont want to see another mana wraith or sunfury whatever. shards and other reagents. also lately i'm one of the major bag makers on my server. i guess all the other 300+ tailors dont need gold anymore. i use the cloth i get from farming or i just buy it straight from the AH and make them right there. i haven't quested as much since i hit 70. still on my netherstorm quests. but questing is easily 50-100g/hr if you factor in quest rewards, cash, drops, etc... it helps that i can DE my soulbound junk rewards and cheap greens. the thing that makes absolutely no money though is running instances. of course you can get upgrades there which make other things easier. find out what works for you and do that. gold really is easy to come by in TBC.



only if they're on your server :) plus its not like anyone can be there 24/7. its virtual gold. there's enough to go around.

Making bags is the best way to guarantee being rich. There is not a single player I know that hasn't had to purchase bags. It's like healthcare...everyone needs it eventually.

[Xmcdaniel]

DL is right, it's more like a commodity market :)

and no you don't need a sizeable cash to start :) i make my gold while lvling my enchanting everytime i reroll. and i always start with nothing :p

I can envision kcma doing one of those late night infomercials touting the "no money down opportunity" to make WoW gold...hot chicks in exotic locations would also be in the commercial selling this "limited time offer"...LOL

[rgirty]

Making bags is the best way to guarantee being rich. There is not a single player I know that hasn't had to purchase bags. It's like healthcare...everyone needs it eventually.

The cost of goods is often equal to the price of the finished product. The bag then requires a deposit to be sold via ah.

I have made several thousand gold selling bags, but on my server the market just isn't there atm.

[Magikhat]

375 mining+ flying mount=moneys

[kcma]

The cost of goods is often equal to the price of the finished product. The bag then requires a deposit to be sold via ah.

I have made several thousand gold selling bags, but on my server the market just isn't there atm.

funny i've made thousands of gold buying cheap bags and sell it for more :p

[Magikhat]

Zomg stop with the same old line kcma!

[DraedynLei]

Zomg stop with the same old line kcma!

good luck with that magik. how do you think he got so many posts? hehe.

[rgirty]

funny i've made thousands of gold buying cheap bags and sell it for more :p

Yet i see a disturbing lack of commentary from you on content that is 61+.

Lots of mcdonalds talk, and your old fail safe "i can do it better than you" lines..but not much new stuff.

I don't see your posts in the raids/instances sections of the newer instances.

Why is that?

Still leveling 1-60 faster/better than everyone else and making more gold at the same time?

/enjoy

[mesonm]

375 mining+ flying mount=moneys

375 mining+ flying EPIC mount= EPIC amounts of moneys

[Shadowpup]

Yet i see a disturbing lack of commentary from you on content that is 61+.

Lots of mcdonalds talk, and your old fail safe "i can do it better than you" lines..but not much new stuff.

I don't see your posts in the raids/instances sections of the newer instances.

Why is that?

Still leveling 1-60 faster/better than everyone else and making more gold at the same time?

/enjoy

Actually, making more money in 1-60 than a person 61+ in OL is quite an achievement (Yeah yeah I know, his head doesn't need to get bigger).

Think about it. Everybody says the quests are paved with gold in BC so making gold 58+ is easy.

But it says something if somebody doesn't even go there and can still make more cash than those that do.

I suspect kc hasn't picked up BC yet, and really who cares? As long as he has fun kicks A in the AH and keeps up his post count, no big deal.

[Ottorfnam]

funny i've made thousands of gold buying cheap bags and sell it for more :p

I've thought about this as well but wasn't sure how bags would sell. I tried to sell a bag for 1g once but it didn't sell. Of course I believe I had it way overpriced... what 50s for a 6 or 8-slot bag, or less? I have two bags that I keep in slots at the bank, and to be honest I rarely ever use them. My main bags are 8, 10, and 12 slot bags... and I'd LOVE to be able to make that 3 12 slot bags in time. I'm hopeful.

But in the meantime, whenever I pick up spare bags I guess I should try putting them on AH. I may buy some cheap bags from a bag vendor tonight and put them on AH for fairly low just to see how they do. Make a profit and just see.

Question for you, kcma... do you set your auction durations to 24 hours? I know 24 hours makes the deposit jump substantially, but to be honest I've had better luck selling items that I put up for 24 hours as opposed to those I've put up for 8 hours. I'm just curious what duration works for you, and if you use different durations, (8 hours for this item, 24 for that one) how do you decide the length of time of a specific item?

[Tanitha]

Question for you, kcma... do you set your auction durations to 24 hours? I know 24 hours makes the deposit jump substantially, but to be honest I've had better luck selling items that I put up for 24 hours as opposed to those I've put up for 8 hours. I'm just curious what duration works for you, and if you use different durations, (8 hours for this item, 24 for that one) how do you decide the length of time of a specific item?


Not kcma, but there are two tips that help make the auctioneering process easier.

1. Do your bidding an hour or so before server maintenance, if there is any. This gives you a largish window during which there can be no competing bids. This is a relatively easy way to steal some rather nice auctions for a very low price.

2. Post your big value auctions with 24 hour durations over the weekend. This gives you access to the largest potential slice of customers as the weekend players join in. The ones more likely to want something off the Auction House as they can't play that much during the week.

As a side one, and I've mentioned this before (Not sure if it's in this thread) but a real money spinner for me is the Dragonhawk hatchlings. This works for both Alliance and Horde players, I've done it on a few servers and it's a slow but steady profit.

There's a bit of setup required, you need two alts to make the process work smoothly and painlessly. I rolled one and moved her up to the village. The other one went from Silvermoon City to the Undercity, Zeppelin from there to Ogrimmar and then a short run down to Ratchett. Take the boat to Booty Bay and park the alt there at the Auction House.

You pick up the Hatchlings for 45s in Fairbreeze Village, right at the top of the building. From there, mail them to your Booty Bay alt. With your Booty Bay alt, put them up for Auction at anywhere between 1.5 and 2.5gp. I usually get them sold within about 8 hours for an average of 2gp and keep one of each colour for sale.

This is where Alliance players pick up on the scheme and buy them in Booty Bay and mailing them to their alts at one of the Alliance Auction houses. There you can resell them for anything between 5gp and 10gp.

Of course, the prices will vary a bit from server to server, but that's been my averages so far. It's not a lot of money, not as godly as some of kcma's auction house transactions and probably nowhere near as high as you can do in Outland, but while you are leveling characters it's a nice way to keep on top of your cash flow.

[Penny]

Actually, making more money in 1-60 than a person 61+ in OL is quite an achievement (Yeah yeah I know, his head doesn't need to get bigger).

Think about it. Everybody says the quests are paved with gold in BC so making gold 58+ is easy.

But it says something if somebody doesn't even go there and can still make more cash than those that do.

I suspect kc hasn't picked up BC yet, and really who cares? As long as he has fun kicks A in the AH and keeps up his post count, no big deal.Well, there are no AH in TBC, so there you go.

Different strokes for different folks - if trade skills are your thing, AH grinding, solo PvE, whatever, it's all about entertainment.

I've always put stuff up for sale in the AH instead of vendoring it, and just recently installed Auctioneer to play with that. I don't need the gold, I just want to see what I can accomplish for grins.

[kcma]

i dont talk about lvl 61-70 because i deleted all my lvl 60s and started over. and yes, i still make more gold as a lvl 22 lowbie than other ppl do questing and grinding :) not to mention i make more gold than they do spending about 10-20 min a day, i'm sitting at 300g right now with enchanting at 235 and lvl at 22 with /played around 25 hours ;)

my AH listing are always 24 hours. and i really dont deal with AH tax unless it's a sure thing. most of my incomes of buying low and selling high comes from buying green stuff low and selling enchanting mat high.

[Ottorfnam]

Well, there are no AH in TBC, so there you go.

Different strokes for different folks - if trade skills are your thing, AH grinding, solo PvE, whatever, it's all about entertainment.

I've always put stuff up for sale in the AH instead of vendoring it, and just recently installed Auctioneer to play with that. I don't need the gold, I just want to see what I can accomplish for grins.

What??? No Auction Houses in The Burning Crusade?? I just purchased this expansion and was going to install it over the weekend... will I seriously lose the Auction Houses with the expansion? If so, what was the purpose of doing away with them?

[Ottorfnam]

i dont talk about lvl 61-70 because i deleted all my lvl 60s and started over. and yes, i still make more gold as a lvl 22 lowbie than other ppl do questing and grinding :) not to mention i make more gold than they do spending about 10-20 min a day, i'm sitting at 300g right now with enchanting at 235 and lvl at 22 with /played around 25 hours ;)

my AH listing are always 24 hours. and i really dont deal with AH tax unless it's a sure thing. most of my incomes of buying low and selling high comes from buying green stuff low and selling enchanting mat high.

Thanks for the info!

[Gekothan]

What??? No Auction Houses in The Burning Crusade?? I just purchased this expansion and was going to install it over the weekend... will I seriously lose the Auction Houses with the expansion? If so, what was the purpose of doing away with them?

They haven't removed the AH's in TBC, there just aren't any in Outland so you'll have to use the portals in Shattrath to goto an "old" city that has one then hearth back when you're done.

Personally I think a Scryer-only and an Aldor-only AH would be pretty cool though, in their respective areas in Shattrath.

[xDarkDrifterx]

What??? No Auction Houses in The Burning Crusade?? I just purchased this expansion and was going to install it over the weekend... will I seriously lose the Auction Houses with the expansion? If so, what was the purpose of doing away with them?

Correct - there's no AH's or even Class trainers in TBC - but there are portals to every major in Azeroth in Shatt. - so you can be at your AH or Class Trainer in a few mins time. You don't loose the AH - it stays in Azeroth (remember Outland is a different world) - all you have to do is go back and post ur AH items and hearth back to OL to continue leveling / making Gold / etc.

Also, all profession trainers that get you past the current topped out profession level are in OL.

:afro:

[mesonm]

Correct - there's no AH's or even Class trainers in TBC - but there are portals to every major in Azeroth in Shatt. - so you can be at your AH or Class Trainer in a few mins time. You don't loose the AH - it stays in Azeroth (remember Outland is a different world) - all you have to do is go back and post ur AH items and hearth back to OL to continue leveling / making Gold / etc.

Also, all profession trainers that get you past the current topped out profession level are in OL.

:afro:

Incorrect...

TBC is the EXPANSION....

(as you said, but called it the wrong thing the first time...)

There ARE AH's in the expansion, but none in Outlands.

[Jaytron]

Is there at least a mailbox out there? To mail items to an alt?

[kcma]

mmm that makes AHing inconvenient :p i do have TBC installed but i only play 1 char at a time and it's a lowbie priest atm.

[Ottorfnam]

They haven't removed the AH's in TBC, there just aren't any in Outland so you'll have to use the portals in Shattrath to goto an "old" city that has one then hearth back when you're done.

Personally I think a Scryer-only and an Aldor-only AH would be pretty cool though, in their respective areas in Shattrath.

Thanks. So portals are the only way to enter/exit the new worlds as well? Damn.... that means no flight paths, boat rides, etc to get to and from. ;)

[Penny]

Thanks. So portals are the only way to enter/exit the new worlds as well? Damn.... that means no flight paths, boat rides, etc to get to and from. ;)There's only 3 ways in - through the Dark Portal in the Blasted Lands, setting your home to one of the Inns there and stoning back, or getting summoned/whatever.

Getting out is also limited in exactly the same way with an additional option of portals to the "old" main cities from the main city of Outland, Shattrath.

[rgirty]

Is there at least a mailbox out there? To mail items to an alt?

Yes, mailboxes everywhere.

[Beruen]

Different strokes for different folks - if trade skills are your thing, AH grinding, solo PvE, whatever, it's all about entertainment.

Very much so. I've got a friend who has yet to hit lvl 20 on any of her characters. On the other hand, her AH mule is at 3500g, and this after spending quite a bit of gold twinking an entire guild. Give you one guess as to what her favorite activity is. :wink:

[Justinledwards]

There's even a guy (NPC) at Honor Hold, the first town you will likely hit in outland.

He wanders up to the mailbox, and says something like "If that ain't salt in the wound, 20 years cut off from all communication and look at this, a mailbox!"

[kcma]

Very much so. I've got a friend who has yet to hit lvl 20 on any of her characters. On the other hand, her AH mule is at 3500g, and this after spending quite a bit of gold twinking an entire guild. Give you one guess as to what her favorite activity is. :wink:

is she... cute... ?? :D

[Penny]

is she... cute... ?? :DShe's got pixels like you wouldn't believe.

[kcma]

i want to see pixies...