Things that make you want to kick a puppy!

[Kneash]

Well...a virtual puppy at least!

Anyways....

The last 4 days 23 hours /played, I've been working on a DPS warrior (as I have a 70th lvl Prot Warrior for raiding). Since my other warrior is an Armorsmith and this guy DPS, I decided to work on being a Swordsmith. This naturally involves mining/blacksmithing (you know the drill).

Anyways, my warrior is almost 48th lvl (Dranei, FTW!) and I'm making the rounds, getting the necessary mats needed for his initial Weaponsmithing quest. Since I'm low on Iron (needed for 4x Massive Iron Axe), I'm going for that. I'm doing my rounds in Badlands, tagging all the nodes I can find and moving on (rinse and repeat). I come across one Iron Node & I begin to tap it when I get jumped by a wolf....which leads to a vulture, which leads to another wolf, all on me at once. Then, from around the corner, a 70th lvl warrior comes up, stops for a second & watches me fighting these mobs, WHILE I WAS STANDING ON TOP OF THE IRON NODE, then procedes to tap all of the Iron Node, then mount back up and head out, never once offering to help.

Now...normally if I'm out farming nodes (as I did this in the past with my other warrior), if I came across another person farming mining nodes and they were being jumped by a number of mobs, if they weren't super over leveled for the area, I'd chip in, help them kill it & ask if they were farming the mining node. If they said yes, then I'd mount back up and head off to the next node. If not, I'd tap that node for myself and move on. But this idiot in question, not only saw what was going on, didn't bother to help, knew that I was farming Iron, but still tapped it and left. The 3 mobs didn't pose THAT much of a challenge to me, but they did in fact prevent me from getting the node that I was there 1st for.

Now...if it had been a case of a person who switched professions and decided "Hey, I need to go Jewelcrafting/Blacksmithing and I need mats", then I can understand being a 70th lvl toon, farming a mid level area, but when you check the AH and see all the Iron, Coarse Stone, & Gems posted in there, all under his name (at inflated prices to boot!), then he was only farming for money.

Anyways...I'm done now...I'll get off my soap box....just hide your puppies from me for awhile.

[Tanitha]

Although my levels were much lower, the same thing happened to me last night. I was standing on top of a node, clearing the mobs around it. (They jumped me after my first whack at it) A Blood Elf Hunter ... what was his name ... Elumei saunters in, finishes mining and then wanders off, leaving me at the mercy of a handful of mobs.

I send him a tell later on: "you notice anyone clearing the mobs around that ore you just ninjad?"

His response? "yea a noob".

GRRRRRRROOOWL!!!! That muppet made me wish we could attack our own Faction! I won't kick a puppy though.

[Kneash]

Here's a puppy for you.

The rest are mine.

MINE I tell you!

[Shellar]

All is fair in love and war, and sometimes, puppies kick back.

[Kneash]

But in EverQuest could snakes "kick".

[LucidSpirit]

I remember when I was just starting out in WoW, I was only level 3 or something. I didn't even know I was standing next to an iron node when a gnome asked me whether I was mining it. Two things struck me: first, I didn't even know it was possible to mine ore; secondly, this guy was really polite, how refreshing I thought.

Of course since then I have met complete inconsiderate, ignorant idiots. As regards to negative human behaviour, nothing surprises me anymore....apart from the occasional good manners.

-LS

[Kneash]

Other things that make me want to kick a puppy:

Rolling NEED on some BoE item, because they just HAVE to have it. It's such an improvement for them, or whatever. Then to find that same item, mysteriously up on the AH under one of their AH-Sellbots.

Or idiots that roll NEED on a BoP item that they can't even freaking use (warriors rolling on Wands when the Priest is going "ummm..that's an upgrade for me, Mr. Moron").

Or folks that roll on items that's out of their spec and try to get items more suited for others (DPS Warriors rolling on gear more designed for a Prot Tank & expecting the Prot Tank who is also in the group to accept his want to roll against him on it)

The list can go on and on. It's just mind boggling the level of idiocy (greed based mainly) of people anymore. I remember back in the days of EverQuest where your Rep was EVERYTHING. Nothing was instanced, if you wanted to see "End Game", you had to get into one of the 3 top guilds on your server, or simply wait till the next Xpack came out and they moved on. If you screwed up your Rep, you never got in those guilds and you did SQUAT. Ninja's had a hard time hiding behind alts because it was far, far harder to level up a new toon than it is currently in WoW as well. So, once again, your Rep was everything.

[det]

I kick puppies without a reason ^^

Funnily my Alliance friends tells me that happens a lot to him with other Alliance players. He (and I with my Horde warrior) doesn't have those experiences on Horde side...

...probably because there are more Alliance players and probably Horde has bastards like that too.

My puppy-kicking-whine:

I can have 2 or 3 DoTs on a mob and a warrior's charge or mage's frostbolt will pull it to them, greying it out for me. Again..bloody Alliance (mostly gnomes, too) love to do this...

When fighting elementals and this happens, I will usually chain banish them (while fighting more mobs)...been expecting a temp ban for harassment, to add injustice to injury, but so far nothing happened, I suppose they get the message ^^

Oh..and ONLY Alliance will come by and start fishing in MY pure water pools... well...it is WAR-craft after all..and that is the warfare that is left on a RP PvE server...so...meh ^^

[Kneash]

Yeah, in a Pure Water spot, I leave those alone. But if I come across it and no one else is there....it's mine. If someone else comes along and tries to pull from it, I let them know it's not appreciated one bit.

/puppy_kick

[Underling]

On Nagrand, we have a guy called Tommcy. He puts cheap tradeskills stuff out for auction, at 98-99g buyout. He does everyday, for a large number of most popular items: stack of linen cloth for 98g, stack of copper bars 99g etc. He's been doing this every day for at least 2 months (time I've been on that server).

You can't /ignore him coz he's only online briefly, to reset his aucitons. The GM wouldn't do anything coz 'it's part of the game'

Even when I tell that GM that this is not creating a great name for Blizzard, or GM service, that this is a fraudulent activity that Blizz either has to stop, or give me a means of avoiding it. I have no means atm. And tell me 'You just need to be more careful' is like removing traffic lights and saying 'Ah well, they'll just need to be more careful'

I really really hate that. I would kick that GM's puppy without breaking sweat.


Another puppy-kicking material is the WoW Gold selling spam. I am getting it every 5-10 min at peak hours, and not just one line - 15-line long whispers. I hate that so much it makes me think of quitting WoW altogether

[Regrets]

When the non elite puppy @ Heroic Shattered Halls hit hard than an elite mob, i feel like kicking a real puppy :D

[det]

... puts cheap tradeskills stuff out for auction, at 98-99g buyout. He does everyday, for a large number of most popular items: stack of linen cloth for 98g, stack of copper bars 99g etc. He's been doing this every day for at least 2 months


Another puppy-kicking material is the WoW Gold selling spam. I am getting it every 5-10 min at peak hours, and not just one line - 15-line long whispers. I hate that so much it makes me think of quitting WoW altogether

Well...The AH listings are changed so that the cheapest item comes first and his items will be really low on the list. Some ppl do it all the time on my server, and yes..you gotta be careful. Hate it..but it is part of the game.

For the gold spam: Install "Spam Sentry"...really nice....

[myusernameistaken]

nothing surprises me anymore....apart from the occasional good manners.

QFT.

@ Det - that guy will be posting his items so high to skew the average price in Auctioneer.

My puppy kicking thing for this weekend was looting Sentry Cloak (twink item) on Friday night. I stuck it on the AH for 50/60g (I usually undercharge on blues but I don't feel bad about fleecing twinks) and announced it on /trade. Within 10 seconds I had a guy saying he wanted it and talked me into cancelling the auction and mailing it to him CoD which I did (dumb of me but I thought he was a guaranteed sale). For the rest of the weekend he's said that he doesn't want it but will hang onto it for now in case he changes his mind :banghead: Ok not the end of the world as I guess I'll get it returned automatically within 3 days (can anyone confirm this?) but means I lost out on a weekend's worth of bidding all because of as far as I can tell bloody-minded arse-hattery.

The worst thing is is the guy (imo) is a cretin but I'm having to watch what I say so I don't get done for harassment.

[moopy]

QFT.

@ Det - that guy will be posting his items so high to skew the average price in Auctioneer.

Auctioneer does handle outlyers, to an extent, btw.

[Sacroth]

During my quick visit to the Alliance faction, I was killing defias mobs in a mine in Westfall with my gnome rogue. A draenei shaman is there as well.
I spot a Tin Vein and clears the mob in front, but while I do so, the draenei runs past me and starts tapping it. Luckily, for me, her mining manages to pull a mob on her second attempt, so I jump the node while she kills it and drain it.

On my way out, I'm blasted with "whispers" like "YOU SOTLE MY TIN, NINJA!", "THAT WAS MY ORE, GIEF BACK NOOB!" etc. from the draenei. My only response is "No, you stole -my- ore", but before I know it, I've got his entire guild on my back, which, in the end, left me with half a guild on my ignore list.

[bwirum]

I kick puppies without a reason ^^
Yes.. we know all about warlocks and puppies... Or bunnies.. (http://www.lfgcomic.com/page/1)

[det]

That's awesome :grin:

[swaldman]

@ Det - that guy will be posting his items so high to skew the average price in Auctioneer.


Won't work, unless the number of them that he is selling is a significant proportion of the total number selling. Auctioneer works off medians rather than means.
(If he really is trying to skew Auctioneer - and he probably is - then rather than listing 20-stacks at 99g he should split them and list hundreds of single stacks at 99g)

[myusernameistaken]

Aye I knew it worked off medians, I just figured that it was people not realising that. I can't see any reason why people would stick stacks of wool up for 99g then.

[larissa]

Aye I knew it worked off medians, I just figured that it was people not realising that. I can't see any reason why people would stick stacks of wool up for 99g then.

Probably not realizing how Auctioneer actually works, believing that it's an average mean, rather than a median. Or quite possibly trying to get someone to accidentally buy their stack at 99 gold thinking it's 99 silver or something.

For the price skewing, it can probably work somewhat better with rarer items. I can't see any point trying with something as common as cloth. Unless he's putting up a page worth of cloth each time for the two months. But then what's the point in that? He'll have certainly lost any hope of profit from the cloth, even trying to sell them at a higher price, but not as high as he thinks people with Auctioneer will blindly sell their stuff for.

Even with Auctioneer, I scan the current prices for items I don't know about, to judge what I can actually sell the item for. Especially for items that have only been scanned a few times. Remember also that what Auctioneer is picking up is current auctions. It's not giving you data of what items have actually sold for, but what people have tried selling them for.

As for the 99 gold for cloth seller, just ignore them ... or if his bids are really cheap, bid on them and then either use or repost at reasonable prices. All he's doing is wasting his money with deposit fees, and there are safeguards in place to assist the buyer (sorting by price, confirmation of purchase).

~~~Larissa

[Gekothan]

I absolutely hate those idiots who come upto you in AH while you're running an auctioneer scan, open trade, and /w you "GIEF PLS 20S!", and keep doing it despite how many profanities you unload on their defective little minds. Just as bad are the wannabe rogue twinks who hang around outside VC and jump on you begging for a run while you're boosting some guildies.

[TeamRamrod]

Questing in Hillsbrad as Horde!! almost everyday there are alliance gankers doing nothing but camping tarren mill and ruining the questing for most of the lowbies. And people wonder why alliance always loses at Bg's.....maybe if most of these gankers would face off against people their own level they could improve.....I would kick each and every one of those ganker's puppies straight in the face! /end rant.

[fzyx]

Questing in Hillsbrad as Horde!! almost everyday there are alliance gankers doing nothing but camping tarren mill and ruining the questing for most of the lowbies. And people wonder why alliance always loses at Bg's.....maybe if most of these gankers would face off against people their own level they could improve.....I would kick each and every one of those ganker's puppies straight in the face! /end rant.


Questing in Hillsbrad as Alliance!! almost everyday there are horde gankers doing nothing but camping southshore and ruining the questing for most of the lowbies. And people wonder why alliance always loses at Bg's (ummm... that ones still true).....maybe if most of these gankers would face off against people their own level the alliance could improve.....I would kick each and every one of those ganker's puppies straight in the face! /end rant

[TeamRamrod]

Guess it depends on the server. On my server hardly any horde camp/raid any alliance towns. Just yesterday there were 20-40 alliance at tarren mill.....

[Hoonah]

Moving my 3 mains from Shadowsong (PVE) to Silver Hand (RP PVE) was the best move I ever made. I have cut way back on puppy kicking.

Virtually none of the bad behavior which was out of control on Shadowsong is done on Silver Hand. Begging almost never happens. A few gold spams but nothing like others have recounted. Not as much RP as I thought but I could always join an RP guild.

I have also noticed everyone buffs each other all the time, waves, bows, etc.

When there is very immature chat peeps are quick to jump in and remind folks it is an RP server and it quiets down quick.

If you are looking for a more mature enviroment RP PVE or PVP seems the way to go.

[fzyx]

Guess it depends on the server. On my server hardly any horde camp/raid any alliance towns. Just yesterday there were 20-40 alliance at tarren mill.....

Yeah, my server is the opposite, far more horde than alliance. But honestly, in southshore, it only takes one lvl 70 horde to destroy the town because the guards and alliance toons are so low-level.

As a human alliance mage on a predominantly horde undead rogue/hunter/warlock server, almost everything makes me want to kick a puppy. Seems like I somehow picked the most underdog combination possible, no pun intended.

[Fursphere]

puppy-kicking anger:

Doing an escort quest, anywhere in the game, only to have a member of the opposite faction, lvl 70, drop in to gank you at the last moment before you finish the quest.

[TeamRamrod]

Yeah, my server is the opposite, far more horde than alliance. But honestly, in southshore, it only takes one lvl 70 horde to destroy the town because the guards and alliance toons are so low-level.

As a human alliance mage on a predominantly horde undead rogue/hunter/warlock server, almost everything makes me want to kick a puppy. Seems like I somehow picked the most underdog combination possible, no pun intended.


Yeah my server is mostly alliance, thinks its a 3:1 ratio or worse. But the horde has the best pve guilds :) i think the need to put in some lvl 70 elite guards at ss and tarren mill, it just gets rediculous sometimes.

[Tanitha]

Guess it depends on the server. On my server hardly any horde camp/raid any alliance towns. Just yesterday there were 20-40 alliance at tarren mill.....

It is the same on Lightninghoof, RP-PvP. You can almost be guaranteed to have at least one level 70 Alliance Player camping Tarren Mill any time you log on. Usually, if you manage to avoid them in the carnage you can wander over to Southshore and will find it quiet, peaceful and completely deserted.

Luckily the Undercity is only a short flight away, so reinforcements are quick to arrive and slaughter those Alliance dogs.

[Fursphere]

There was a 64 undead mage in arathi highlands ganking like crazy the other night. He even corpse camped my 60 hunter (who was helping my 35 warlock run faster...).

I got so fed up with him I logged into my 67 gnome warlock and ganked the holy hell out of him for almost half an hour, to the point where he took the rez sickness and hearthed out.

[Alvandrax]

Yep the worst thing these days: Gold sellers. /agreed Yuch! More puppy kick hate:

Ninja looters Ninja miners or in my case ninja herbalists... hate them too. Please let me add ninja skinners. Nasty.

Gankers in Tarren Mill, had them too. Please let me add ppl who attack u from behind when u are almost dead or out of mana fighting mobs...

Ppl who ruin a pitced battle in AV by dying and dying for the stables, when the Horde could actually win...:sad:

Ppl in WSG who never pay attention to the flags, nevar; just stand killing Allies between their tunnel-entrance and gy and one of the Ally "n00bs" run in behind them and score... or even worse, our fc comes running out and noone helps protect...:cry:

Ppl who start whining and calling names etc. in BGs instead of reporting which would actually help.

Ppl in instances who have no discipline soever. The worst thing about Horde on my server is that we get a lot of that... Ppl wo. discipline in PvP. I think that was worse on Alliance that it is on Horde...

When I played Allliance on Scarshield the worst of all was ppl who jumped up and down on my toon, ran in circles around me and all that... One of the best things about Horde on Venture Co.: I dont think I have ever seen that. :grin:

[fzyx]

Yeah my server is mostly alliance, thinks its a 3:1 ratio or worse. But the horde has the best pve guilds :) i think the need to put in some lvl 70 elite guards at ss and tarren mill, it just gets rediculous sometimes.

I don't know why they don't do this, except it must be leftover from earlier days when the guards at SS and tarren mill could actually guard something.

[fzyx]

If you are looking for a more mature enviroment RP PVE or PVP seems the way to go.

In my experience I would take PVP out of that sentence.

[DraedynLei]

I count myself fortunate. I know I haven't been playing the game that long (since late Dec 2006) but I have NEVER encountered a ninja. Not once. Of course I basically skipped every instance on my rise to 70, and I play on an RP PVE server. But basically even with the worse PuGs at 70, most people know the general loot rules. I've never seen someone accidentally hit need. Never seen someone roll on items they can't use.

Everyone passes on BoPs. We discuss. Then we divide it up. At the end generally those who didn't upgrade roll on the shards. In fact, for the most part, people are generally very generous. I ran heroic Ramparts last night and we all passed on a primal nether so the one guy who actually immediately use it could have it. And not that I think it matters one way or the other, but I'm alliance.

The only thing I could even think of in regards to this is that groups are scarce on my server now. We're only medium population and sometimes you might wait an hour or more to get into a particular instance. Just PuGing I've run into the same people (usually rep grinding like me) over and over again. If you get a rep for being a ninja, well, I doubt you'll be invited into many groups again.

[fzyx]

I count myself fortunate. I know I haven't been playing the game that long (since late Dec 2006) but I have NEVER encountered a ninja. Not once. Of course I basically skipped every instance on my rise to 70, and I play on an RP PVE server. But basically even with the worse PuGs at 70, most people know the general loot rules. I've never seen someone accidentally hit need. Never seen someone roll on items they can't use.


Before I knew what the difference was between need/greed, I hit need on an item I couldn't use in the deadmines. This was after I nearly caused a wipe by slowfalling right into the middle of 10-15 mobs. The leader booted me from the group and left me standing alone in the middle of the dungeon. Thank god for teleports :) Needless to say I learned two lessons that day.

[Thunderpants]

I love skinning Nelf hunters kills when you know that they're only farming the leather. Espessially when they kill one mob, loot it, then get jumped by another. Easy steal. Also love watching ally get ganked by 4 or 5 mobs and sitting down next to them watching the get pwned.

Personal all time favorite tho, is aggoring mobs, running towards a fighting ally and vanish... leaving the aggro to them :D muwahahha

[YamahaGuy]

I ninja herb. ^_^

Didn't use to. I didnt like it when people did it to me.

Every time Im fighting a mob over an herb, someone comes and takes it.

Both alliance and horde.

Every day.

Especially in netherstorm.

So, now I do it to. And sometimes they get all mad and flame. And I also got this one horde guy 3 times in a row.

But hey. It wouldnt have come down to that if you didn't leave me keyboard-banging mad the other day when you did it.

Especially hunters who put their pet on nearby mob so they can ninja the herb. See also: Farming at elemental platue.

[Wiired]

The same thing happened to me last night.

I'm working on the Armorsmithing quest, so I was out farming Mithril when a level 70 mage rides by me. Usually I'm fine with competition, but a level 70 in the Badlands?! And a MAGE?! They knew I was farming mithril, since we passed each other so many times. Not once did she offer to go over to the Searing Gorge instead..

EDIT: Oh, and people that are negative in BGs. It's okay to say, Wow we lost bad, hehe." when you're right about to lose, but halfway through the game when someone starts telling you to forfeit because they want the badge, I get mad.

EDIT EDIT: :afro: I just wanted an afro in there.

[VerticallyChallenged]

Gankers in Tarren Mill, had them too. Please let me add ppl who attack u from behind when u are almost dead or out of mana fighting mobs...


I used to hate it when I would get ambushed, but now most of those stupid druids (it always seems to be druids,) find out the hard way my shaman isn't such easy meat.

Bubble, Heal, Stormstrike, Earth Shock, Shock again, dead druid, me laughing over their gank-wannabe 12-year old corpse.

[Gekothan]

Recently, wannabe twinks who approach you in AH and /w you asking you to buy them twink gear.

"pls can u buy me [twink weapon] for [gold]???" "No." "PLS i need it!!!!" "No." "BUT UR 70! Uv got loads of gold! gief weapon pls!" "No." "PLS!!!! I PAY YOU BACK ON MY MAIN IF U GIEF WEPON NOW!! I hav 10 70's!!!!!" "No you don't, go away." *ignore*

[hotshot]

ive never wanted to kick a puppy because of sum1 elses stupidity. . .more than half of the times ive been ganked by a ?? ive escaped, normally because its a idiot sword rogue who doesnt understand how blink works.
im normally put into puppy-kickin mood when being beaten by a guy 3 lvls below me in a fair fight. . .that really pisses me off

[swaldman]

"pls can u buy me [twink weapon] for [gold]???" "No." "PLS i need it!!!!" "No." "BUT UR 70! Uv got loads of gold! gief weapon pls!" "No." "PLS!!!! I PAY YOU BACK ON MY MAIN IF U GIEF WEPON NOW!! I hav 10 70's!!!!!" "No you don't, go away." *ignore*

My usual response to "you're lvl 70 you have loads of gold" is "yes, I only need 3800g more for my mount".

[snowieken]

Questing in Hillsbrad as Horde!! almost everyday there are alliance gankers doing nothing but camping tarren mill and ruining the questing for most of the lowbies. And people wonder why alliance always loses at Bg's.....maybe if most of these gankers would face off against people their own level they could improve.....I would kick each and every one of those ganker's puppies straight in the face! /end rant.Questing in Hillsbrad as Alliance!! almost everyday there are horde gankers doing nothing but camping southshore and ruining the questing for most of the lowbies. And people wonder why alliance always loses at Bg's (ummm... that ones still true).....maybe if most of these gankers would face off against people their own level the alliance could improve.....I would kick each and every one of those ganker's puppies straight in the face! /end rantThanks for the chuckle, fzyx. I needed that tonight. :laugh:

[DaWok]

I'm fighting a damn Shadow Priest who has like 1k health left while I have about 3.5k, drain life, BOOM I'm ****in dead. Wtf mate?

[Kneash]

Here's my updated puppy_kick story:

I'm 62nd lvl now. I'm in Outlands doing my quests. Some quests you've done enough times solo that having someone with you is nice, even though you're not getting as much exp per kill....at least you have company. But naturally, there are some quests that do require additional help, so having someone already in the group solves this problem. So, you go LFG for a hunting partner, anything will do really, and the next hour or two, you continually search for that partner, or heck, even a group. Naturally, as time is moving on, you're just not sitting back, doing nothing, you're burning down your own quests too. Then you find yourself down to your group quests and you start to go LFG for those particular quests (sometimes specifics DO help). But, just like the previous hour or two, nothing has brought you into any kind of grouping. You finally decide to "take a crack" at some of the lower lvl group quests and then, as you're clearing the area to get to "Mob X" or "Item Y guarded by Elite Mob Z", 2 people stroll in, finish clearing the area and grab/kill what you were after. Now, mind you, you've been asking for this group for all this time, these folks were *in* the zone you've been in also, but they didn't want to group up. The situation is doubly worsened when these kinds of people show up, pause for a minute or two (or start the clear out the area as it's clear what they're there for) and you ask, 'Hey, got room for another? I need to kill that guy for a quest....' and not only do they not respond, they proceed to kill the mob and/or loot the item you were needing. All without even responding to you.

[memetootoo]

GRRRRRRROOOWL!!!! That muppet made me wish we could attack our own Faction! I won't kick a puppy though.

I've never heard anyone being called a Muppet before, but for some reason when I read that I just couldn't stop laughing. :grin: God that was great.

Thanks :D