Aldor Vs Scryers

[Afterburner]

Im a level 64 BM hunter...this is my first toon...now ive just done a Q and im ment to pick either Aldor or Scryer and i have NO idea if there is any differance between the two and if so which would be a better choice for a BM spec'd Hunter (with PvP in mind more than raids)

Any info or suggestions would be a big help,thx :)

[Gorny]

Im a level 64 BM hunter...this is my first toon...now ive just done a Q and im meant to pick either Aldor or Scryer and i have NO idea if there is any difference between the two and if so which would be a better choice for a BM spec'd Hunter (with PvP in mind more than raids)

Any info or suggestions would be a big help,thx :)

There are major differences between the two.

Read up on them here (http://www.wowwiki.com/Comparison_of_Aldor_and_Scryer_rewards)

[Dark Matter]

What professions do you have?

It's not just about the reputation armour rewards and shoulder enchants, there are also differences in crafting receipes you can obtain.

Scryers for example have an alchemy recipe that no one else has.

DM

[Afterburner]

read it (thx for link)...im slightly leaning towards aldor...what do you guys think?

Level 64 BM Hunter, Will PvP more than raid (tho i do want to do a few) With 370 Skinning and 335 Leatherworking (Dragonscale)

[Dark Matter]

No one can make that decision for you. It has to be yours and you have to live with it :D

There's no need to rush - I have been in Outland for 2 weeks and only chose Aldor this am.

DM

[Afterburner]

No one can make that decision for you. It has to be yours and you have to live with it :D

DM

but it'd be so much easier :P

[Darranna]

would be cool if we could isolate pro-melee, caster dps, healer etc. type list for aldor or scryer. then maybe there's skill pros, etc.

im reading the wowiki link now too very helpful thanks!

EDIT: OK It's clear to me that for melee classes Aldor is the way to go. The rewards are mostly Rogue/Warr focused. Even pallies get some coverage.

Scryers tend to be more Mana focused.

Skills are another point altogether. Also seems shadow-resist focus to Aldor Mana-resist focus to Scryer rewards and such, so depending on your future instances or gear maybe that is something to also consider.

[larissa]

No one can make that decision for you. It has to be yours and you have to live with it :D

There's no need to rush - I have been in Outland for 2 weeks and only chose Aldor this am.

DM

Very true ... look over the links, talk to other people you know who have chosen one side or the other and find out their reasons.

My Rogue companion still hasn't chosen a side. She will eventually choose Scryer, but that's only because she is an alchemist. The reputation rewards hold little interest for her, so there is no strong need to choose either, and she likes following me around while I'm running around Aldor Rise. :grin:

For my choice, it was pretty easy, Aldor is much better geared towards healing priests than Scryer is ... though I would have much preferred the staff on the Scryer side.

~~~Larissa

[Beruen]

One other minor difference: the Scryer have a General Goods and a Trade Goods vendor. Not a major difference, but if you play anything like I do, you'll be honored with the Scryer long before you're honored with the Lower City.

Personally, my hunter went Aldor, my druid and priest Scryer. Then again, there weren't any major reasons to go either way. My druid went Scryer because they had an alchemy formula for a rep reward and the Aldor don't. My priest went Scryer because my hunter is my other tailor (don't ask), and I wanted access to both types of spell thread.

[larissa]

One other minor difference: the Scryer have a General Goods and a Trade Goods vendor. Not a major difference, but if you play anything like I do, you'll be honored with the Scryer long before you're honored with the Lower City.



Good point ... and the enchanter trainers are on Scryer Tier for some reason, though I'm thinking that they don't have a Jewelcrafting trainer/supplier as Aldor has. Also, the Imbued Netherweave Robes and Tunic are sold by the Tailoring Specialist in the Scryer outpost in Shadowmoon Valley.

Needless to say, as a tailoring/enchanting Aldor Priestess, this made me rather unhappy. Still, I had my enchanting training by then (unless the Scryers have something unique to them), and had my Rogue companion buy the patterns for me.

But there's a Trade Goods and General Goods vendor on Scryer? And the Aldor get ... a Food and Drink Vendor (which I presume Scryer has in there inn) and a Staff Merchant? Still, I don't know if there is a repairer on Scryer Tier.

~~~Larissa

[BaAlzaemon]

Still, I don't know if there is a repairer on Scryer Tier.

With fear that I come off as gloating:P, I think there are two right outside the scryer inn. One to the right, the merchant under his canope, and another to the left near the elf that sells the poor-man's gems.

[larissa]

With fear that I come off as gloating:P, I think there are two right outside the scryer inn. One to the right, the merchant under his canope, and another to the left near the elf that sells the poor-man's gems.

:shocked:

You have a gem seller as well? And two repairers? Right outside the inn?

*grumbles* ... damn lazy Draenei ... what, working class jobs too good for them? ... *grumbles*

Couldn't they at least give Aldor a reagents vendor so I don't have to fly all the way down to Lower City just to buy some candles?

*sighs*

~~~Larissa

[bhroam]

I'm a Scrybaby and am happy with how the teir is set up. We get a dagger vendor which repairs and sells poisons right outside the inn... not to mention a trade goods vendor... and a general goods vendor not far away.

Now the Aldorks do have a staff vendor which will repair. Their terrace doesn't have as much stuff, but does have their own hidden tunnel into Nagrand.

The thing I find strange about the two is the items are pretty much opposite from what you'd expect. The Scrybaby honored enchant is all spell crit and mp5, where the Aldork has a really nice +healing enchant. When you get to items, the Aldorks have a kickass spell damage staff, where the Scrybabies have a healing staff.

Now none of the items are better than anything you can get in an instance. The Seer's Cane is about as good as the epic mender from black morass.

In any case, base your choice off of shoulder enchant and professions. The gear is about as good as you can get if you farm the non-heroic level 70 instances.

Scryers have a pot recipe (Major Fire Power) and the aldors have a tailoring set (forget which).

As for reagents? bleah... you need to fly down to the lower city, and just as you know it someone's gonna turn in the rotten egg quest and you're gonna be puking. I generally stock up on reagents in front of instances. Less hassle.

[Gorny]

Scry or Die!

As a famous man in my guild said:wink:

[SlyHilgen]

I chose Scryers for a few reasons, but mainly I liked their inscriptions better, and I am an alchemist. I am the minority in my guild in that respect...most of them are Aldor.

I have come to terms with having to deal with the less than honorable Blood Elves for now. So far the Scryers have been most hospitable...they always keep my poison stash full and always have a lighted hookah for me to puff away at while reading the latest tomes recovered from the dungeons. Not to mention, they have better taste in decor.

[larissa]

I'm a Scrybaby and am happy with how the teir is set up. We get a dagger vendor which repairs and sells poisons right outside the inn... not to mention a trade goods vendor... and a general goods vendor not far away.

Now the Aldorks do have a staff vendor which will repair. Their terrace doesn't have as much stuff, but does have their own hidden tunnel into Nagrand.

The thing I find strange about the two is the items are pretty much opposite from what you'd expect. The Scrybaby honored enchant is all spell crit and mp5, where the Aldork has a really nice +healing enchant. When you get to items, the Aldorks have a kickass spell damage staff, where the Scrybabies have a healing staff.

Now none of the items are better than anything you can get in an instance. The Seer's Cane is about as good as the epic mender from black morass.

In any case, base your choice off of shoulder enchant and professions. The gear is about as good as you can get if you farm the non-heroic level 70 instances.

Scryers have a pot recipe (Major Fire Power) and the aldors have a tailoring set (forget which).

As for reagents? bleah... you need to fly down to the lower city, and just as you know it someone's gonna turn in the rotten egg quest and you're gonna be puking. I generally stock up on reagents in front of instances. Less hassle.

Take the stupid tunnel and give me some vendors! I've used that tunnel like twice in all this time.

I've luckily haven't seen/experienced this poisoned egg quest, though I've heard about it. Didn't realize it happened there.

I stock up in the city out of habit, I don't always go to an instance with a vendor nearby. It's a lot easier now, but I've been long in the habit of just stocking up before heading out, guess it just natural to me now.

Yes, the one thing that tempted me towards Scryer was the healing staff. But I just couldn't justify going Scryer just for a staff. Lucky I won the Epoch Mendor this weekend, so I have a clear mind with my choice of Aldor now ... well, beyond not having any services available to me ... or sexy Blood Elves to talk to/admire ... :grin:

~~~Larissa

[rgirty]

:shocked:

You have a gem seller as well? And two repairers? Right outside the inn?

*grumbles* ... damn lazy Draenei ... what, working class jobs too good for them? ... *grumbles*

Couldn't they at least give Aldor a reagents vendor so I don't have to fly all the way down to Lower City just to buy some candles?

*sighs*

~~~Larissa

I hate buying candles, thats why I buy 300 at a time and keep 500 in the bank.

[Beruen]

Oh, yeah, there's another reason to go Scryer in my guild. There's all of 4 people that went Scryer, so we get all the signets that everyone else gathers if they're in the mood to give them away. Marks, on the other hand, get split so many different ways that I can't remember the last time anyone gave any to my hunter.

[larissa]

I hate buying candles, thats why I buy 300 at a time and keep 500 in the bank.

Good gosh, where do you find the space? I typically have about 5 slots open to actually put things into the bank. I carry 2 stacks of 20 candles on me, but that all. I usually don't use all that many on a given night. About the only times I burn through them is when I go through something new and we die a lot, learning the encounters (Arcatraz has been the latest, still have to get to the last boss).

Oh, yeah, there's another reason to go Scryer in my guild. There's all of 4 people that went Scryer, so we get all the signets that everyone else gathers if they're in the mood to give them away. Marks, on the other hand, get split so many different ways that I can't remember the last time anyone gave any to my hunter.

My guild is pretty even now in Aldor/Scryer. But I luck out anyway, as my Rogue companion gives me all the Marks she finds, and she gets all the Signets I find. She'll probably be well into Revered by the time she picks Scryer and hands in all the turn-ins. :grin:

Still about half-way to Exalted, but pretty much gave up on grinding for it. I did so for Honoured which while worthwhile, left me not wanting to farm again for a good long time. Then went and bought the last few marks I needed for Revered, and then found there was nothing I wanted at that reputation level. I'm not in any hurry to gather more patterns that will most like have huge Primal requirements, meaning I'll have to do more boring farming.

~~~Larissa

[moopy]

EDIT: OK It's clear to me that for melee classes Aldor is the way to go. The rewards are mostly Rogue/Warr focused. Even pallies get some coverage.

Scryers tend to be more Mana focused.

I'm not sure you actually looked at the rewards in much depth then. For the enchants, both for melee and caster, the main difference is on emphasis- the scryers are tilted more heavily towards crit rather than sustained output on the damage style enchants and their enchants to attract healears emphasises mp5 more than plain +heal etc. There really isn't a "this is for melee/that is for caster" division.


I've luckily haven't seen/experienced this poisoned egg quest, though I've heard about it. Didn't realize it happened there.

The SICKY EGGS quest! Yay! This is the most annoying quest imaginable, as you have to keep stopping due to stomach pains. When you do it, take a shaman, and get them to drop disease cleansing totem- it's infinitely more efficient than curing disease yourself and makes the egg collection almost bearable.

The sicky eggs quest is nearly as bad as the felhound poo quest in Hellfire Peninsula. The worst bit happens when you hand the sicky egg to the NPC in Lower City, and.. no, I shan't spoil it for anyone who doesn't know.



Yes, the one thing that tempted me towards Scryer was the healing staff. But I just couldn't justify going Scryer just for a staff. Lucky I won the Epoch Mendor this weekend, so I have a clear mind with my choice of Aldor now ... well, beyond not having any services available to me ... or sexy Blood Elves to talk to/admire ... :grin:


Grumble, my lovely, serene Draeni shaman had to betray the luminous and calming Aldor and go scyer as part of the endless quest for crit. Such treachery, and now she has to traffick with catty anorexic belf drama queens (of both genders). Terrible!

(Takes all sorts, eh?)

[roaming eye]

Ah the great Aldor / Scryer choice, it has brought so much hardship already .....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xeUhSjuhQYE

[RWGreen]

I'm a blacksmith. What's going to be more useful for me in the later instances - fire resistance or arcane resistance? I'm leaning toward Scryer (arcane resistance) since I already have a bunch of dark iron armor.