Non-gankers: The other side of PvP

[kall]

We've all heard the (multiple) stories of people being ganked by high-level players of the opposing faction, while questing, grinding, or just taking some chill-time with the old fishing pole.

Recently, I have noticed more and more of the complete opposite.

Whilst questing in the Outlands last night (L66 Hunter), fighting a mob in the Tomb of Lights, I saw an L70 Alliance warlock, felguard out and apparently charging towards me.

I continued attacking my mob, curious as to what was going to happen.

Surprisingly, the felguard crashed into the mob I was fighting and finished it off!

We stood, looking at each other for a few seconds, then she /kiss ed me, and we proceeded to head down to the altar, summon the boss, she let me tag it, then we killed it together.

Okay, so I *did* let off one accidental multi-shot, but a quick /sorry, and we were 'friends' once again.

I was so pleased by the experience, the player in question is now on my guild's "No Kill" list. :)

Anyone else with a nice 'opposing factions working together' story?

(side-note: After this, I was AFK at a point, and noticed a '*player* gently pats Eris' (Eris is my King B) somewhere in the middle, a minute or 2 back. Upon checking the Armory, said player was a 70 rogue with several thousand HKs and super gear. I was so glad he just patted my pet. ;) )

[MadYak]

I help others out occasionally. There are a couple of situations where I won't even try to kill someone:

-They're less than 5 levels below
-They're already about to die from mobs (I usually help them survive)

But, if they're near the same level, and full health, AND they see me coming, they may as well kiss their ass goodbye =].


People occasionally help me, but it's pretty rare.

[Serrat]

I help others out occasionally. There are a couple of situations where I won't even try to kill someone:

-They're less than 5 levels below
-They're already about to die from mobs (I usually help them survive)

But, if they're near the same level, and full health, AND they see me coming, they may as well kiss their ass goodbye =].


People occasionally help me, but it's pretty rare.

not surpised its pretty rare with that outlook.

of course not saying theres anything wrong with that:thumbsup:

[MaxKillfactor]

I play a rogue.

If I'm questing/grinding in the same area and will be for awhile, I generally don't attack other players IF there are enough mobs. I'll usually ambush or cheapshot the mob they are fighting to announce my presence, help them kill it. Cheer at them and then start killing mobs. I'm lvl 57 and had a 60 rogue previously and not once was I attacked by the other player.

I found that if I approach unstealthed they think I'm aggressive or want to get the upper hand on a rogue out of stealth and they sometimes attack me.

However if I'm just passing through or there's not enough mobs to go around... :evil:

[Richakin]

on my 24 druid in duskwood....

?? lock (70 by the gear) and he came right up next to me...and did the /openfire on a mob so i did, and he killed it. i than started just tagging every mob in sight and he killed em all, after 8 minutes i /thanked and ran away =P

on my lock ive helped others kill mobs if they were close to dieing. i have never actively engaged trying to kill someone on my lock...i always let them take the first shot...if they are feeling lucky =P which im yet to lose a 1v1...even a +3 lvl paladin has died from my dots =) poor guy tried again when i had 2 mobs on me dotted up dieing...and he still lost =(

thing i hate the most is when a druid jumps you while im engaged with a mob...and he still loses..and tries 3 more times and loses each time, than calls for help from a 42 hunter(39 lock me, and the druid was 39) and they both lose to me..twice. just leave me alone im trying to level >.<

[Xmcdaniel]

I always help alliance players unless they are jumping around like crazy and spamming rude emotes directed at me, or attacking me, regardless of level.

[Pin]

I'm selective about who I decide to help.

If they're on the same faction as me and in trouble, almost all of the time they will get help. Exceptions would be if they've tagged too many mobs on purpose just to stop me (or others getting them) or if they'd annoyed me somehow (like ninja'ing a mob/chest/node which I'd worked for). Disclaimer: not saying it was mine, but if they're not being nice, then neither am I.

If they're on the other faction, it's more complicated.

If they are on my KoS list with a strong enough reason as camping me, then I'll just gank them. This has happened once, ever. Felt nice though :)

If they have done me a favour or I am feeling nice (and I'm sure they won't kill me afterwards) then I will help them.

If we're in competition for the mobs/rare spawn/quest target, I will let them die so that I can take it.

[Eileithyia]

I teamed up with an Alliance before when in STV. we worked our way through a load of trolls and made a good double act. After showing our repect to each other with a salute and a bow, the sneaky bugger attacked me as soon as my back was turned. :shocked:

[Eratia]

When I was playing my hunter (somewhere between 30-40 at the time) in STV, a ?? Human Mage helped me out by killing the mobs I was tagging. However, after all the outrages I had recently suffered in Hillsbrad, I was just too twitchy to take full advantage of the situation, so I thanked him and left pronto.

I also had a really weird situation on my lock about two nights ago where a ?? human lock kept ordering me to follow him about. I didn't really want to--I had other business to attend to. But if I tried to deviate from the path he set for me he would spam /no and fear me. He was clearly just power-tripping so I forced exit game. I found the situation even more objectionable than a straightforward gank.

[owlx]

On pvp servers, I live by one simple rule:

If it's red it's dead


Wait scratch that............I do that on pve servers too.

[SlyHilgen]

I kill em all! I don't care if I am in the middle of a fight with mobs, I will attack all flagged Horde. Sometimes I lose, sometimes I win...but I fight either way. I am honorable about it, though. I don't camp and I am not rude about it. I always /kneel after killing someone, then stealth and continue on.

More often then not, the enemy doesn't see me...I am always stealthed when on foot. I am a rogue, so I have no problems attacking them even if they are at a disadvantage, but at the same time I will even attack when I am at a disadvantage. It evens out.

Will I help the Horde? Not if I can kill them. If, however, I happen across one that is much lower than me and is in trouble I will help the poor guy...afterall, someday he will grow up and be fresh meat for me. Kind of a catch and release way of thinking :)

[Toxicshadow]

Before TBC there was no question about it, if someone had been silly enough to turn on /pvp and I stood a snowball's chance in hell against him, I'd attack. (PvE server, btw.)

Now since TBC, and having been saved by hordies I don't know how many times from mobs spawning on top of me (I was geared well enough at the release to take 5 mobs at a time, but when the 1st kill respawned before the 3rd went down..), I don't attack anyone unless they're near a World PvP Objective which I want. Or if they're just generally annoying.

[MapleBarb]

We've all heard the (multiple) stories of people being ganked by high-level players of the opposing faction, while questing, grinding, or just taking some chill-time with the old fishing pole.

Recently, I have noticed more and more of the complete opposite.

Whilst questing in the Outlands last night (L66 Hunter), fighting a mob in the Tomb of Lights, I saw an L70 Alliance warlock, felguard out and apparently charging towards me.

I continued attacking my mob, curious as to what was going to happen.

Surprisingly, the felguard crashed into the mob I was fighting and finished it off!

We stood, looking at each other for a few seconds, then she /kiss ed me, and we proceeded to head down to the altar, summon the boss, she let me tag it, then we killed it together.

Okay, so I *did* let off one accidental multi-shot, but a quick /sorry, and we were 'friends' once again.

I was so pleased by the experience, the player in question is now on my guild's "No Kill" list. :)

Anyone else with a nice 'opposing factions working together' story?

(side-note: After this, I was AFK at a point, and noticed a '*player* gently pats Eris' (Eris is my King B) somewhere in the middle, a minute or 2 back. Upon checking the Armory, said player was a 70 rogue with several thousand HKs and super gear. I was so glad he just patted my pet. ;) )A couple of days ago a friend and I were questing and got attacked by a couple of lvl 54s. we got them. And went back to try and quest. They came back and attacked us again. Same result. They died and we went back to questing. This went on a couple more times. And, when they were unable to defeat us one of them? maybe both ended up calling for help from a lvl ??. sad really considering my friend and I were lower lvl then they were and had managed to win. But I guess in the server I'm in thats how they win. By calling chars who are lvl ?? to their side. Or they attack you when they're in a huge group and you're by yourself. So what I do is do other stuff around the house and ocasionaly look at the monitor to see how long they're willing to sit by my body and babysit me lol.

Most of the players I've encountered have been real friendly (and yes I just recently started playing so I'm still new to the game). Only a couple of exceptions to this rule. One was while we were waiting for the zepelling to undercity. One of the players there told another one how his gear was crappy. I thought was rather rude of him considering its none of his business so I told him that. As we got to undercity I went on to do some stuff and later went trying to get some runecloth (I'm a tailor) and complete some quests. While trying to kill this one monster I completely ran out of mana and was rather near dead. When this other player came in and saved me :). When I looked at his name? It was the guy who had been insulted for his gear in the zeppelin. He then went on to give me 4 red potions which really came in handy and enabled me to complete the quest.

[Mincemaker]

Personally, I only attack opposite faction members who will give honor. Others, I ignore them. At times, I would be kind enough to give assistance to low levels if I happen to be around, and would even leave behind a mine node after mining it once (gathering mats for engineering).

However, that does not mean I will not retaliate. If a low level grey has the guts to actually attempt hitting me, I will send him to a graveyard, for this kind of person definitely does not mind a 'spiritual' journey. But even then, I'm nice enough not to camp.

[earindur]

i gank beggers of my own faction these days with my infernal, thats all. rarely gank horde*

*unless they belong to two certain guilds on my server, then its WTFPWN1SHOT to da face!!one!

[Jaytron]

Last time I let an Alliance priest happily grind in the same area, he was ganked by another rogue... The priest then called in a 70 friend to come clear the area of horde, and he proceeded to camp us. Never again.

If it's red it's dead.

[Kugan]

I was levelling my baby priest (female belf – the only female character that I have) in STV when I got a little bit overrun by mobs.

I was just about to die when an alliance hunter came flying in, pet takes aggro and saves the day… only for him to be two-shotted by a level 60 hordie.

After giving the hordie a piece of my mind (from my main character. For some reason people have a tendency not to listen to low level characters), I decided to post an apology on the official website.

The hunter’s reply?
“Don’t worry my lady. You were worth dying for.”

[Woodlander]

Generally if they dont provide honor I leave Horde alone, the main exception being if they are fighting alliance (gotta help out my side) and if it's rather suspicious (the 54 Tauren outside Redridge for example, no good was coming from that). I do take perverse pleasure with my Horde Catch and Release program. Just throw a Hunters Mark on the Horde, /wave, and leave. Its especially fun if its a low level rogue or druid in stealth thats hoping I dont see them. (They're so cute when little, but get so ugly when they grow up.)

[xDarkDrifterx]

This coming from a person who ganks (any and all horde regardless of level - gotta keep the rights of passage working lol) . . . but not always :smiley:

(I have to actually be in the area to kill noobies that are REALLY low)

I get this everynow and then on our pvp server. Ususally it's early in the morning (2am) kind of times where I'm sure the person on the other end of that horde is thinking the same thing as me . . . let me just finish this quest in peace please - I dont want to have to run back here. lol

When I was level appropriate I went to meet some friends in Razorfen.

Came across a horde mage by herself as well. We kind of exchanged pleasantries once we realized the other wasn't going to attack. We fought our way throught the beginning area to make to the dragon skull there or w/e you go through as you make your way down the tunnel for the last bit b4 the instance entrance. Then these couple horde came up - about 5 levels over me and I saw them coming so I hid and shadowmelded - figuring this person would tell them and I would be dead. But nope, they echanged some words, and the guys left . . . we helped each other the rest of the way to the entrance.

Edit: I've got screenies of us sitting on the ground eating / drinking together somewhere - it was the first "friendly horde" experience that I remember.

p.s. - this reminds me I havent ganked in well over a month . . . look out STV :azn:

[Lazt]

If you dont want to fight you should do exactly as the original poster did here.

I do that all the time. Rarely I will kill just for fun no matter who it is, but in most cases I will go up to them pat them on the back or grin or something anything at all. Sometimes ill try to taunt them /taunt /flex /roar

or whatever.. but if they wont attack me I'll let them live normally.

[HolyportalArathor]

On pvp servers, I live by one simple rule:

If it's red it's dead


Wait scratch that............I do that on pve servers too.


Same, I am on Arathor, a normal server. If I ever see a "red" player, then it's dead. Unless of course it is lvl ?? or +5 lvls higher then me.

I travel to Westfall, Elwynn Forest, Duskwood, etc. all the time, and see little nubs with their pvp on :evil:. I think I have the most fun when I see them doing the escourt quest in Westfall, in which I then kill the escourt person, hence making them fail the quest :laughing:.

Sorry, but I love ganking nubs.

[rgirty]

These "nubs" might be alts of people and not nubs at all.

If you want to really feel some pvp get off that normal server and re-roll on an rp/pvp or a straight pvp.

For the first 60 levels you won't be saying "if its red, its dead" you will be on the receiving end of the ganks.

[odinsnephew]

Same, I am on Arathor, a normal server. If I ever see a "red" player, then it's dead. Unless of course it is lvl ?? or +5 lvls higher then me.

I travel to Westfall, Elwynn Forest, Duskwood, etc. all the time, and see little nubs with their pvp on :evil:. I think I have the most fun when I see them doing the escourt quest in Westfall, in which I then kill the escourt person, hence making them fail the quest :laughing:.

Sorry, but I love ganking nubs.

You are the kind of player I just love to kill - too scared to take on someone else your own level so resort to angrily bashing the low levels ;)

People like you should, after lets say....5 kills of level lower level characters, have a tag - much like "Private" or "Duellist", but called "Ganker". Then we guys could would know we are dealing with & would delight in killing you :thumbsup:

[HolyportalArathor]

If you are on Arathor, duel me, look at my gear.

I have never lost a 1v1 duel in my life, and I don't plan on it.

Of course, I won't win a lvl 70 vs me duel, but if they are + or - 3 lvls, I can take them no problem.

[odinsnephew]

If you are on Arathor, duel me, look at my gear.

I have never lost a 1v1 duel in my life, and I don't plan on it.

Of course, I won't win a lvl 70 vs me duel, but if they are + or - 3 lvls, I can take them no problem.

I play on a PvP server so it would be a real fight to the death not "plastic" fighting ;)

[BossmanFW]

Any Alliance my level I see is KoS.

[HolyportalArathor]

rofl, lvl 16?

QQ

[Lazt]

I have converted.

I use taunt, and leave them alone if they do not start attacking me...... But Ive now had two times that I let someone live...... and they saw me let them live..... And they came back when i was already almost dead from fighting several mobs and they ganked me!

So I have no mercy left in me. I wont gank them w/o giving them a chance still... but I force them to defend themselves now or just accept a death.

I taunt them, flex, pity, lol, and whatever else if they wont fight i start to hit them with my staff, if they still wont fight I kill them with my staff, normally they try to fight back by that point though.

[Mincemaker]

Me, well, as long as they give honor, I take them down. Other times, I only do it out of retaliation. Besides, those greys are not even a threat so even sinister strikes with a dagger (which is stupid in itself) can take them down, though I prefer to gouge and go behind and show 'em the bit crits of doom. Just to show that I am very unforgiving against those idiot greys who thinks that just because I show mercy means I am not going to retaliate.

But if he gives honor, I do everything it takes to claim that honor point.

[Ghostskull]

I use the "do unto others" philosophy regarding PvP. If I'm somewhere questing, grinding, what have you, and an alliance comes along and kills me, when I rez I will attempt to hunt down and kill him/her.

However, as of late I've been a little more flexible on my philosophy. I've grown somewhat racist towards gnomes because about 95% of all gnomes I come into contact with either provoke and/or attack me. Who would've thought so much hostility could find its way inside such a wee little heart? :sad:

[Mincemaker]

It is common knowledge that gnomes have Napolean complex.

[Demontorz]

I'll help a allie if I see them in trouble I'll go and kill the mob thats on them.

But about a week ago it backfired in my face. Was questing around felwood and winterspring. I was down in that area in north felwood just before you enter the timbermaw tunnel. I see a 51 hunter about to get owned by 3 mobs. I go in and kill them off and he lives. Next thing you know I'm getting Dot's put up on me. and just off a little bit and i'm not sure how i didn't see them was a 61 priest. at the time is was lvl 55. And now to make matters worse. The hunter I initially saved. Is launching a ranged attack on me. :shocked:

obviously i didn't last long. and now i'm pissed. comming back with a vengance. I rez, stealth and heal up. Slap some cripple poison on. and just start watching these 2 questing together. I wait for the preists bubble to break and for her mana to be real low. Launched my full out attack on her and took her down. Vanished. and did the same to the hunter.:evil:

now i'm not usually one to camp. but i figured this was justified. priest rez'd so i took her down one more time. and the hunter booked it. end of story.

now maybe the entire event was a mixup. i can understand the priest initially dot'ing me. cuz we didn't see each other at first. but then the hunter opening fire on me after i saved his ass. :banghead:

[FireofDps]

I play on a PvP server, so if I see a player lower level then me, (alliance). Since im horde, I will attack it on sight, Corrupt, CoE, fear, repeat. Idk if they do not mean any harm, I will attack on sight and will.

Of course when IM in Contested Territores 60% of the time I encounter an Alliance face to face and hes level ??? to me, he kills me, so thats why I do the same if I see an Alliance my level or lower.

[irogue]

I'll help a allie if I see them in trouble I'll go and kill the mob thats on them.

But about a week ago it backfired in my face. Was questing around felwood and winterspring. I was down in that area in north felwood just before you enter the timbermaw tunnel. I see a 51 hunter about to get owned by 3 mobs. I go in and kill them off and he lives. Next thing you know I'm getting Dot's put up on me. and just off a little bit and i'm not sure how i didn't see them was a 61 priest. at the time is was lvl 55. And now to make matters worse. The hunter I initially saved. Is launching a ranged attack on me. :shocked:

obviously i didn't last long. and now i'm pissed. comming back with a vengance. I rez, stealth and heal up. Slap some cripple poison on. and just start watching these 2 questing together. I wait for the preists bubble to break and for her mana to be real low. Launched my full out attack on her and took her down. Vanished. and did the same to the hunter.:evil:

now i'm not usually one to camp. but i figured this was justified. priest rez'd so i took her down one more time. and the hunter booked it. end of story.

now maybe the entire event was a mixup. i can understand the priest initially dot'ing me. cuz we didn't see each other at first. but then the hunter opening fire on me after i saved his ass. :banghead:

Nicely done! I had the same experience. :grin:

I still don't understand why would ppl even think about picking on rogues. :ponder:

[kall]

I play on a PvP server, so if I see a player lower level then me, (alliance). Since im horde, I will attack it on sight, Corrupt, CoE, fear, repeat. Idk if they do not mean any harm, I will attack on sight and will.

Of course when IM in Contested Territores 60% of the time I encounter an Alliance face to face and hes level ??? to me, he kills me, so thats why I do the same if I see an Alliance my level or lower.
Well, you certainly seem to deserve the ganking, given you can't be the bigger person and NOT kill lowbies.

[Gavriel]

Of course when IM in Contested Territores 60% of the time I encounter an Alliance face to face and hes level ??? to me, he kills me, so thats why I do the same if I see an Alliance my level or lower.

And thus the cycle perpetuates itself.

[kall]

One does have to wonder what a Dranei Rogue is doing ganking Alliance..

l2setprofile?

[SirBazturd]

I still don't understand why would ppl even think about picking on rogues. :ponder:



I am a rogue; therefore, I gank!

[Azori]

I attack if I think I can win :)

However I'll help out if they need it. If I see someone who looks like they can beat me, I bow and hope they're friendly.

I had a funny situation in Darkshire where a ?? Orc Warrior on an epic mount came up to me. We looked at each other and then he killed a few skeletons for me before laughing and then wandering off. I did the same thing for a guy in the Barrens before he attacked me and then I owned him :)

[Richakin]

on my Undead Warlock on a pvp server i've had my fun in barrens. i haven't attacked first, but ive had countless people try to attack me, all within 4 lvls of me, im yet to lose in any of them. In fact I had a Druid call in a hunter buddy, and i beat them both...twice and his hunter pal tried to run away but i got Siphon Life, Corruption, Curse of Agony on him, and he died from those 3 alone.

My most pleasing moments are Banishing the Elementals they are grinding on, but wait, hes still attacking the mob, so i Re-Banish it..still attacking, I dot him with Corruption...still attacking...stupid bots.

[Ammon]

I polymorphed a low lvl Alliance with my troll then did /wait (yep one way to heal the poor sod at 5% hps) just after annihilating the mobs that were killing him.
Not entirely sure what he thought after I mounted up and rode off :)

I dont usually kill those who are significantly lower than me unless I have a damn good reason , such as 5 people (38-50) camping my Sister & Her Friend (Stranglethorn , what a shock), who had both only been 40 for a few minutes.
It didnt take too many Arcane explosions to clean up that party , Looked like they Graveyard rezzed shortly afterwards though I would have left them be if they ceased hostilities.

[TobTatKittyCat]

If it's red it's dead

Wurd. With lowbies, however, I don't gank unless provoked to do so. :thumbsup:

[shukokoson]

I play on a PVP server, but i always assume friendly terms with other players. If they gank me and they are my lvl its /suicide, but if they are ?? i call in my 70 buds. That being said, i have had WAY to many friendly experiences with Alliance members, including an hour long grind session with a warrior. It takes absolutely NO skill to kill someone who is a lower lvl, and i cant find the enjoyment that others have in ganking.

[Blakbow]

I take a once bitten twice shy day to day philosophy on horde.
Once in the yeti cave in hillsbrad i'm mining and about to leave when i see a lvl 32 be pally, i was lvl 37, ganged up on by 5 or 6 yetis at once. Now i know pallys can take a beating, but it looked like he wasn't going to survive. I jump down and start trying to pull them off of him, and he attacks me, finishes the 3 after i downed 2, then spat on me. I came back in and CS him and take him out in the middle of another multi yeti fight.
A week or so later I'm lvl 39 working in dustwallow on some murlocs, and who do i see barrelling toward me training a dozen murlocs at me? yup, same be pally. I die. I come back and CS him and watch the murlocs kill him. even winked at him.
Ran into a 39 ud priest in alterac and we start cleaning mobs out, exchanging a few pleaseantries, i even hit a mob with discombobulator ray for a laugh. We were doing well and i wanted to thank him for not starting a fight so i tried to point out a chest to him, let him get it. well i bumped into a stealthed mob, and as i fought it, he dotted me and then feared me til i died. Found him in the same spot two days later, still 39 to my 41, and ganked him.
Other times, I ran into a 70 ud boosting a 34 be in alterac, he ran up, i waved, he waved and walked off, i continued mining. That whole day whenever i spotted a horde /wave and left them alone.
STV is a little different. Was grinding trolls and a horde troll runs by being attacked by an elder STV tiger, so i pop sprint to catch up and pull it off, only to be shot in the back by a group of mounted horde for my trouble.
My last incident was in hillsbrad, where i run into a be hunter lvl 29 to my 43 grinding. i /wave to signify i was friednly, and she shoots me. Then she stands there like she knew she just screwed up, then kills a few mobs, then looks back at me, stands there, then bows. I'm thinking, she knows she just screwed up and i could pwn her without breaking a sweat. I /salute, then ride off. I know the feeling of relief when a ?? player who could obliterate you just leaves you be.
If you ever run into me on ysondre and i attack you, its becuase someone else just ganked me, or backstabbed me, or made me untrusting of horde, at least for awhile. Its probably not personal, just me venting my frustrations from being ganked, or camped by a ?? becuase they're 14 and bored.

EDIT: Another little story. I was riding to azshara, to get a pattern, and pass 2 low lvl horde on the road in ashenvale. I come up on a ?? orc hunter escorting a low lvl BE, and proceed to just ride on, thinking I'm not going to hit the BE, and he has no reason to hit me, since he'll get nothing from it. Jackass shoots me in the back( seems to be a pattern with horde.).
If you're a low lvl being escorted/boosted by a higher lvl, might be wise to ask them not to attack a lvl higher than you that doesn't bother you, they just might remember it and gank YOU the next time they see you.

[Azori]

I had an interesting experience today.

I was killing ravagers in south Desolace which 4 levels aobve me, hard enough without hordies trying to kill me. I saw a warlock 2 levels above me (37) get into a hard time with several of them attacking him, I saved him and then after some staring we went off and killed seperate ravagers. He then helped me when a lvl 40 attacked me but just as soon as he had killed it a mage a rogue both level 36 ganked him.

When he came back we exchanged waves and then he went and killed the mage and rogue when they were in the midst of fighting a mob, leaving me alone.

I was feeling a bit guilty for not helping the other alliance guys, but then they had attacked him when he was helping me. Weird.