herb post 2.1

[unbdm]

I don't see a thread on this... maybe I'm not searching on the right words...

With 2.1 coming, I've heard people say that herb is going to take a hit on gold making. I've been considering taking up herb for use on my 70 holy priest, since he is too lacking on dps do make gold in between instance runs.

However, I'm concerned by the impact of 2.1; can anyone offer any insites to this?

Thanks,
Barry

[Magikhat]

check the patch notes. They are changing the way potions stack with each other or something to the effect.

[Stigg]

Well, nobody is quite sure on how the pot market is going to sway.

According to the patch notes you can have: 1 offensive pot and defensive pot -OR- one flask in use at any given time.

Which means each class is going to choose one flask to have a lot of or 1 offensive and one defensive pot at all times.

So, a lot less reagents are going to go into each run, but the reagents for the pots are going to be in high demand...which could either raise prices due to the huge deamnd, or lower prices due to every person and their mother farming the specific mats for the "best" pots then competing for lowest price on the AH.

[Astross]

I don't know about you guys, but a lot of people in my guild "skimp" out on potion/elixir usage.

They are too afraid of wasting precious gold on a wipe.

I usually pot up everyraid with multiple elixirs on at all times, but I will be the first to admit that sometimes I too will skimp out on potion usuage simply because you can "feel" a wipe coming.

I think with this new elixir update from the patch, we will actually see more potion/flask usuage simply because you would only be wasting 2 elixirs instead of 4/5 or so.

I'm thinking I will probably be using elixirs more often because it is a lot easier to afford losing only 2 elixirs compared to losing every available elixir possible.

Plus the mats for flasks will be reduced dramatically making flask usage more of the norm and start seeing people flask for every raid instead of only special occasions.

[Rex Normal]

Don't rely on what the doomsayers are screaming about the changes in alchemy in the next patch. They are predicting the worst case scenario as if that is what will happen. As with any change to any profession the first few weeks are going to be a bit shakey, but the economy will eventually stabalize.

Herbalism will still be a good money maker no matter what happens.

[unbdm]

ok, so it's still an unknown, thanks for explaining. I was tempted to level enchanting just to help recoup costs of leveling tailering (DE tailered items); but with a holy priest, I really want something to do that is not dependant on others, and herb could do it. I think I'll hold off on leveling enchanting for bit.

Thanks,
Barry

[DraedynLei]

I don't know about you guys, but a lot of people in my guild "skimp" out on potion/elixir usage.

They are too afraid of wasting precious gold on a wipe.

Depends on if we're learning an encounter or not. Usually our raid leader will tell us to go full consumable (pot, food, oils, runes, etc...) If we're making a full attempt. But sometimes, usually with a lot of new people in the raid, it might take one or two tries for them to get use to it. No reason to waste gold on that right?

[Astross]

I totally agree with you Draedy, there is no reason to waste gold and consumables on a fight you are trying to learn; however, even when the guild leader says to fully pot up...there is still a few that try to gimp out and not waste the gold on consumables and expect others to pick up their slack.

I think there will be less situations as these and actually see more people using pots because the fear of losing over 10g a death will be gone.

I for one, will probably be using elixirs/flasks more often simply because the mats have been reduced and losing 2 elixirs a death (at most) is not a big deal.

[Leonavice]

Gathering professions make money no matter what happens, since it takes nothing to gather stuff.

[Aswer]

Well, nobody is quite sure on how the pot market is going to sway.

Yeah, indeed, I heard the mexican one is getting out of hand due to border pressure, and that the quality homegrown is scarce due to thermal-detection choppers. Bah!

:afro:

[Dark Matter]

Although a player can only take on battle and one guardian elixir (or one flask) for the buff, they can also eat one food for another buff.

I predict that fishing and cooking are going to be more important - as are scrolls in certain fights.

Mongoose potion, +20 Agi food and +30 Agi scroll will still give hunters and rogues a good boost.

Food buffs that I know:
+30 Stam , +20 Spir (Crawdad)
+40 Ap, +20 Spir (ravager dog)
+20 Agi, +20 Spir (Mudfish or Warp burgers)
+23 Spell Damage, +20 Spir (basilisk, serpent or Bluefin)
+44 Healning, +20 Spir (golden fish fingers :D )
+20 Str, + 20 Spir (roast Clefthoof)
+20 Spir and 8 mp/5 (Sporefish)

[Ankh]

...and you can boost your stats by drinking, if the drink doesn't boost the same stat as the food you eat. Hence, +Agi/AP food can be combined with +Stamina drink (Rumsey Rum Black Label).

I think Rogues will favour the use Elixir of Major Agility over Mongoose, but the difference between those are not huge. Probably the cheaper of them at any time will be the #1 choice.

I agree with you that scrolls will be more popular (a V-scroll is +20 stat, not 30). Their relative strength is higher now since the buff total has gone down. As a Rogue I would even use Scroll of strength, something I haven't bothered with before.