Levelling Tailoring is becoming painful...

[Tibbs]

Hey guys,

I'm on the way to my Frozen Shadoweave set on my Lock, and I'm sitting at 361 tailoring at the moment. Only another 4 points to go until my new boots :)

I'm currently using the Imbued Netherweave Boots recipe to get my level up. I have LW on another Char that gives me the knothide leather.

However, it requires 4 imbued netherweave which means 72 cloth per point!

Am I missing a cheaper / less time intensive recipe, or is this as good as it gets? :(

Will INBs take me all the way to 375 - or will I need to use an even more expensive recipe?

I'm currently farming the cloth because I'm saving up for my epic mount for my LW, and it's starting to get me down :(

Tibbs

[Aswer]

I used INW tunics, but wait till it's yellow and you skip several points and then you will start crying. Also make your set pieces as soon as they become available, it's a "free" point.

The boots sell for a wee bit more than the robes/tunics though, so if you don't have enchanting to DE the robes/tunics I'd say stick with the boots, although I am not sure whether they green out before 375.

[unbdm]

your doing it right, I also switched to tunics when I could, but the leather was too expensive for me.

Barry

[Fursphere]

I beleive this is a common complaint with tailoring at the moment.

Its requires a whole bunch (read: insane amount) of cloth. :)

[mesonm]

You are doing it right....

I have heard stories of people having to make multiple items per point for 370-375....I was lucky and it only cost me one item per point....

I have not tailored a SINGLE item since making the third piece of the set, at 375.

[unbdm]

I wasn't at lucky as mesonm, but it only took me 6 items to get from 370-375, so one miss isn't that bad...

you didn't really ask for this, but I'll say it anyway: i had a running spreadsheet with what I was going to craft, what mats i had, what mats I needed, etc... That way I could foresee what I would need and AH for the best price. Arcane dust and netherweave were the things I shopped for the most. I bought all the netherweave at the AH that was under 5g per stack (although in the last week it has dropped to 3-3.5g per stack, which had been unheard of on my server).

Somtimes I found motes to be cheaper than primals on ah.

I never farmed netherweave, it just seemed that farming motes and selling what I didn't need, then buying netherweave was more efficient, but I know a lot of people swear by farming bloodelfs.

from where you're at to 375 will take a lot of netherweave.... i need 2 more primal mooncloths to finish my PMC set of 3.

Best Regards,
Barry

[rgirty]

You are doing it right....

I have heard stories of people having to make multiple items per point for 370-375....I was lucky and it only cost me one item per point....

I have not tailored a SINGLE item since making the third piece of the set, at 375.

LawL! I make 10+ bags every day. Stacks of netherweave are hovering around 3g, bags sell for 6.

Won't be long before netherweave is so cheap I can make and DE the netherweave belt/bracers for a profit.

[Leonavice]

370 to 375 is really the pain since the patterns are yellow.

Oh btw, if you think tailoring is a pain, blacksmith/LW/engineering are worse. Only Alchemy is not as bad as Tailoring.

At least for tailoring, unless you are making something special, skilling up doesn't require any primals unlike other professions.

[ascendedavatar]

I think all crafting professions are a pain --- but of course, Blizzard does not want you to do it quickly, just like they don't want you to hit 70th level quickly nor easily --- so just take comfort that it's like that for all of us, and it's a pain.
Just keep levelling up so you can get (if not already) into the Outlands, where there is a lot more gold and a lot more advanced cloth for you to get.
Many advise to start your professions from level 1 - for myself, only the gathering professions do I advise that; they will make you some decent cash, and advancing them is just using them and costs you little or nothing. then after you get your mount at 40, you can better afford and perform what you need to do to level up professions quickly.

For example, I had a warlock that at 60th level I decided to start tailoring.
I took it from Tailoring 1 to Tailoring 250 in one day.
Sure, I could've done some of that at lower levels, and made items to help me, but with skinning/herbalism I was never short on cash during those 60 levels, and that was a non-twinked character.

But yeah, professions, like levelling, is a pain.
If anyone tells you differently, they are a) lying, b) egotists fishing for compliments or c) trying to sell you a "guide" to do it better :P

[Tibbs]

Well I'm 2 points away from my FSW boots, so I'm getting a bit impatient now... lol

Ho hum, keep farming those Blood Elves... lol

Tibbs

[Pin]

Hehe, I can sympathise with this so far.

I just reached 365 yesterday, but still need to farm the primal waters to make the boots.

Then it's going to be the painful imbued netherweave stuff to skillup again. Only used it on orange so far, but I've used all my money besides about 50g getting tailoring from 1-365 :D

[Twoflower]

omg, think about effort - reward ratio.

still think leveling tailoring is a pain ? then you dont want your shadowweave set badly enugh.

ps : after 365, i use the imbued netherweave tunic and robe aswell. dont think there are many alternatives. Maybee if you are lucky you can make some arcane and fire resist gear for your guild.

[Drpep]

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still think leveling tailoring is a pain ? then you dont want your shadowweave set badly enugh.

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Wow, and I am jot talking about the game

[unbdm]

omg, think about effort - reward ratio.
still think leveling tailoring is a pain ? then you dont want your shadowweave set badly enugh.
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I don't know that I want anything bad enough to justify how long it took me farming (and speced out of a healing build) to level tailering and make PMC set. I have not healed an instance in a month (ok, I healed durn once with an OP group to get a friend attuned)... Hopefully I'll be glad in the long run, but at this point, I can related to the OP.... it's a grind worse than leveling IMHO.

Best of luck,
Barry

[DraedynLei]

LOL. It is a pretty bad grind for any of the bop sets. But making fire mages farm motes of fire shows blizz has a cruel sense of humor. Luckily I had a guild to help me out. A hunter farmed most of the primal fires I needed. It is worth it in the long run IMO. Well I suppose that depends on what you want to do with your toon. I mean its not any more crazy than farming a heroic over and over again for one fricking drop. *I'm looking at you underbog!*

[unbdm]

lol... I think it's worse for a holy priest, only because you have to spec out of your normal build, and dig up some outdated old green dps gear... So it's a commitment of being a worthless spec and build for one month, unless you havppened to have decent dps gear also.

I think I'll use my shadowcloth cool downs, and save the cloths, i may need them one day....

Barry

[rgirty]

PmC is a great set, but if i had it to do over again i probably wouldn't be in such a rush to craft it.

I was going to do the whitemend set as well, but after some raid experience and itemization I think that +1500-+1600 heal is enough for kara. Balancing other stats like stam, and mp5 while keeping a mana pool are very important. There will be dmg you can't avoid. Whitemend+pmc i feel would make me too fragile for some of these encounters.

[unbdm]

thanks for that rgirty, I'm stashing mats for whitemend now, but I don't have it in me to grind it out... i'm really done with PMC. I'm going to spec holy and stay in instances for the next month... get some heroic keys... i can't find a kara group that starts late enough for me, so heroics may be as far as I can take it. When I burn out on 5 mans, if I still have not found a kara group, I'll either try PvP, or quit I suppose... but I have a lot to do still, even with PMC my gear still is not near up to par with what most consider the norm.

Thanks,
Barry

[crusadeoflightguild]

Levelling ALL the crafting professions is painful.
They are DESIGNED to be slow, tedious, expensive, excruciating.

Why?
Simple. Blizzard wants you to spend a year levelling your professions,
your level, your gear, or hopefully (for them) longer than a year...the longer it takes, the more you pay your $$$ every month.
Simply for marketing/business reasons, and maybe on a lesser side note they don't want the market flooded with 100,000,000 epics of every kind on the AH so that everyone in the game is wearing them. But i'm pretty sure it's the first reason.

[Shellar]

Oh btw, if you think tailoring is a pain, blacksmith/LW/engineering are worse. Only Alchemy is not as bad as Tailoring.
Engineering's not so bad, actually, since the most valuable rewards (BoP goggles) require only 350 skill to make and wear.

[Stigg]

If you can get the Arcanoweave patterns, they tend to really really help. You'll have to get more arcane dust, but a LOT less netherweave!

Oh, and I would also suggest waiting to make the feet until you get to 374, for a guarunteed skillpoint to 375...instead of possibly wasting 2,3 or 4 attempts to get to 375.

[Mirinda]

I got the arcanoweave boots pattern. How far will this pattern take me past 360?

[Ferenczys]

I used the Arcanoweave Boots pattern to get me to 370, which is where I'm going to sit till I get enough shadowcloth to craft my second set piece. At which point, I'm planning on using Arcanoweave Robes to get me to 374, craft my second piece, and finish at 375. I have to offer profuse thanks to whatever alignment of stars allowed me to obtain BOTH arcanoweave patterns from my first two Mechanar runs.

I'm thinking though that the arcanoweave boot pattern should be able to take you to 375, but I'm not sure what the skill-up rate is. I've heard on other threads of people getting to 375 on just five Boot crafts, but I haven't been able to verify it. Kind of like how some people get really lucky and make 370 - 375 in just 5 Imbued Netherweave Robe crafts. It's a shot in the dark.

Stigg definitely has the right idea though; wait till 374 before crafting your second set piece and save yourself a heck of a lot of trouble. I waited till 360 before crafting my first one, which saved me approximately 30G on Arcane Dust alone.

While we're on the topic, does anyone have a better plan for obtaining the ludicrous amounts of primal water needed for the FSW set than farming the Elemental Plateau? I'm no fisherman, so that's out of the question. I'm just getting tired of rushing around dodging the competition. Granted, it's FAR better than farming for Motes of Fire, but still...

[coani]

you can farm primal water at skettis, another place which used to be camped by 70s before the daily quests showed up.



hi, I'm coani and I skilled tailoring 370-375 on 5 imbued netherweave robes/tunics.

[Ferenczys]

Way to live the dream Coani. :thumbsup:

[ArchAngeltwo]

Another more indirect idea for helping you get primal waters is what I do. In anticipation of needing all the primal waters for the frozen gear and enchants, I got the transmute primal earth to water from the Sporegar faction. I also happen to be a transmute spec alchemist so it has paid big dividends on transmutes. Primal earths are cheaper than water and easier to come by for any miner so I took advantage of that. Find someone who can do the transmute and make them your friend. If you have an alt that can stealth, it makes gaining rep with sporegar easier as you can do stealth runs into underbog for the Sanguine Hybiscus turnins rather than killing all the nagas.

A bit more involved, but much faster and fun than farming waters all the time.

Good luck with your tailoring however you manage to get there! It took me 3 fails to finally hit 375.

[Davemetalhead]

It's probably too late now, but I would say don't make the boots until you hit 374 in Tailoring - the pattern is still orange at that point so it means you get the skill-up guaranteed to hit 375.

I was lucky - I made INW robes from 365 to 374, and got a skill-up on everyone I made ...


Edit: D'oh - just read this advice has already been given ...