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Baal
12-06-2007, 06:40 PM
Finally I've found the class I was meant to play.

I had played my Priest to 60 and really got tired of the game and had a very hard time playing him... However, I also had a hard time finding a character to level past 15 or 20. I always deleted and got dead tired in the Barrens...

However, I've finally found the class for me. I've got a level 34 (almost 35) Troll Hunter, who's now in Booty Bay picking up quests, and he's damn fun.

I just love the class.

I love the pets. I love the skills. I love the survivability.

I've been doing quests in the red with him even - which I never did on my priest. Never dreamed of it. I love being able to take out mobs that are 7-8 levels higher than me...

I just wanted to get that out :)

I've gone back and forth a lot in this game - but I'm absolutely loving it right now.

I'm also really excited about my mount ;) I've got 5 levels to go - and I've got the gold saved up.

*Edit: /spits on Elves (both kind). But I still hate you, and always will.

JPaterson
12-06-2007, 06:50 PM
I never understood why people called hunters "easy mode" until I tried one.

Getting to level twenty without really doing any work, I realized why. Hit auto-shot, go watch The Simpsons, come back during commercials, find a mob, hit auto-shot, rinse and repeat.

Enjoy taking all the challenge out of the game.

Fursphere
12-06-2007, 06:56 PM
Want to make hunters *really* fun?

Dismiss your pet, spec survival, and go rock it up.

Baal
12-06-2007, 07:05 PM
I never understood why people called hunters "easy mode" until I tried one.

Getting to level twenty without really doing any work, I realized why. Hit auto-shot, go watch The Simpsons, come back during commercials, find a mob, hit auto-shot, rinse and repeat.

Enjoy taking all the challenge out of the game.

Enjoy trying to bring people down when they express their joy in something :) you sound like a real winner and supporter of others :thumbsup:

Not going to work on me :) so get your negativity out of my thread and go find something else to do :)

jasonclassic
12-06-2007, 07:15 PM
Enjoy trying to bring people down when they express their joy in something :) you sound like a real winner and supporter of others :thumbsup:

Not going to work on me :) so get your negativity out of my thread and go find something else to do :)

GG, B!

Being a hunter IS fun. It's all I know how to do and it's NOT a walk in the park if you challenge yourself. The pets are the best aspect and so are the professions -- making your own gear in the field? What? That's cool-hand-luke baby.

Here's how I challenge myself: I go to Nagrand and try to line up as many Clefthoof Bulls as I can before I die. I'm 32/29 hybrid spec'd with King Bangalash and the best I've done with 100 health left is 8 bulls, all lined up. It was an awesome sight! People were stopping to watch. Then you switch on Aspect of the Viper and go to town looting, skinning, and compiling your knothide scraps to knothide to heavy knothide. I change it up by putting them into a circle or fan them out like a crescent moon. This is how you generate revenue and have fun doing it! And when that thick clefthoof leather starts stacking up -- chi-ching!

odinsnephew
12-06-2007, 07:19 PM
Enjoy trying to bring people down when they express their joy in something :) you sound like a real winner and supporter of others :thumbsup:

Not going to work on me :) so get your negativity out of my thread and go find something else to do :)

/agree

I was about to reply & welcome you in as a hunter but that post kind of put me off - too many negative posters here recently. I dont see the point in posting unless its "constructive" criticism.

Anyway, which way have you gone Baal? BM/MM/Surv?

I'm still mainly MM as I really do like the pew pew crits & I never drag aggro off my Bear. I have maxed out Imp AotH & Hawk eye though as they are excellent to have too for the range/speed bonuses :)

Drakkor
12-06-2007, 07:22 PM
Enjoy trying to bring people down when they express their joy in something :) you sound like a real winner and supporter of others :thumbsup:

Not going to work on me :) so get your negativity out of my thread and go find something else to do :)

No doubt - rock on :thumbsup:

Hunters - FTW

I enjoy hunters too even though my main is a pally (that I also enjoy). And when you get in tight spaces you really need to know what your doing. Easier to level than a Paladin = yes, no challanges = NO.

Xlorep DarkHelm
12-06-2007, 07:35 PM
I have two level 70 hunters. I've always loved the class. And for those who think being a hunter is "easy mode" One of my hunters is a hybrid survival & marksmanship build, focused on CC. Running around and keeping 5 - 6 separate elite mobs in check in an instance and surviving long enough to keep the healer protected all on my own is not what I would classify as "easy mode".

JPaterson
12-06-2007, 07:47 PM
What can I say, I'm a pessimistic a-- you know.

But honestly, it's good YOU enjoy the class. That's the point of the game, to find a character YOU want to put months of effort into it.

poopsmcgee
12-06-2007, 07:49 PM
well i posted in another thread about how when i started posting on this site recently it was really due to me coming back to wow from getting more serious with my fps gaming. i hooked up with some old RL friends from high school and stuff and there are about 20 of us in the guild. most of us even live near to each other. i'm enjoying playing again but i gotta tell ya i was a bit shocked. out of the around 20 people in this guild, i think 14 of em have hunters for mains lol. i rolled a priest cuz the only healer they had was one shaman. those guys loves their hunters. they are always telling me how i'd love it and i'm sure i would, but the last thing this guild needs is another hunter lol.

Tikki
12-06-2007, 08:25 PM
Cheers!

I'm like you - hunter is my class!

It's one of the only classes I've enjoyed playing! Glad to see you're liking it too! ;)

jasonclassic
12-06-2007, 08:29 PM
I have two level 70 hunters. I've always loved the class. And for those who think being a hunter is "easy mode" One of my hunters is a hybrid survival & marksmanship build, focused on CC. Running around and keeping 5 - 6 separate elite mobs in check in an instance and surviving long enough to keep the healer protected all on my own is not what I would classify as "easy mode".

Amen, brother. Keeping the clothies alive is NOT easy at all. Plus, you have to trust them enough to never look at your own health in an effor to concentrate on your job of protection. It's very challenging and very rewarding. I just love seeing my name at or near the top of the Damage Meter followed closely by my pet.

IRL I've hunted and I don't like it anymore. I love animals, I love skinning, and I love using them completely to survive and make stuff. It's not necessary but it USED to be completely necessary so it's a great feeling to experience what our great-great-great-great-great grandparents experienced. The rough part is when you screw up your shot and make the animal suffer. It's a truly sad and difficult thing to chase one down to put it out of its misery because YOU screwed up. In WoW, it's not completely the same but you get some of that same joy without really going through the trauma of screwing up! That, and they fight back and kick your butt quite a bit! That's fun!

Toolio
12-06-2007, 09:33 PM
Why would you /spit on an entire race? What makes you think that a troll is > blood elf? WoW racism is okay because it's virtual?

MadVlad
12-06-2007, 09:50 PM
Damn right it's OK!

Gnomes are inferior because they're silly looking. And because they dance like pimps.

Baal
12-06-2007, 09:58 PM
Why would you /spit on an entire race? What makes you think that a troll is > blood elf? WoW racism is okay because it's virtual?

Indeed it is ok.

I hate all Elves equally.

Here's how I see it: Every Race > Elves

I cannot stand Elves at all ;) Blood or Night.

Drakkor
12-06-2007, 10:00 PM
Fear the Elves ... lol ... we're coming to get ya .........................

and gnomes are cute, come on now ....

I bet you think female trolls are sexy .... lol

lula
13-06-2007, 12:23 AM
grats to u!
in my opinion the hard part of this game is find the class u want to play, to play the game is very easy, maybe a hunter have more easy time grinding but thats dont means other classes are near impossible and the ppl that lvl are so skilled and so great players. I was lucky to find that lock was my class and the first i lvled, anyway the only bad thing in Hunter is find groups for intances, u was apriest that probaly spend like 5 min and get a group while a hunter can spend 5 hours(true) and dont get a group to do a instance, but if u have a guild that can run with u will make things alot easy

ascendedavatar
13-06-2007, 10:16 AM
omg what a bunch of whining -
don't listen to that - you can post for anything you want - it doesn't have to be "constructive" ! If the moderators went thru and deleted every "non constructive post" there'd be like 10% left, lol!

Hunters ARE fun - and it doesn't take the fun out of the game, quite the opposite !
With a hunter and pet, you can go for HARDER quests, things ABOVE your level, get faster levelling (which is always a great thing) and
take on major challenges!
Why not? Why piddle around with quests that take you 20 or 30 of them to go up a level? Hit the harder stuff with a hunter, and level much faster.
You get to play the game,
rather than just grind or quest with little stuff hoping you don't get your butt kicked every ten seconds ... it's way fun.

My guild had some people groan when i joined because I only run
hunters & warlocks --- but hey, to heck with them - it's a game!
Play what you want!
I've seen parties in instances/raids made up of the most unlikely combinations and they kick it's butt!

And, outdoors (non-instance) a group of warlocks or hunters can
serious wtfpwn quests, mobs, everything!

Plus, you can solo so much easier w/out having to get some pug full of losers

ascendedavatar
13-06-2007, 10:19 AM
Okay, here's where I get flamed - first for double posting, and second for what I'm about to say -

I think ALL the races in WOW are great. I love all their starting areas, the nuances of each race, playing through their quests, and the like - here's how much I like the races and the two pet classes - here's what I have:
ALLIANCE:
Gnome = Warlock (RP only character, never goes OOC, in guild like that)
Dwarf = Hunter (PVP specialist - BGs, Arenas, raids)
Human = Warlock (my main - in mid 60's - end game focus, hitting 70)
Night Elf = Hunter (speed leveller - seeing how fast I can level with this one by using a questing list, grinding combination - no not bots just seeing how fast I can level it)
Draenei = Hunter
HORDE:
Troll = Hunter (this is my main for the horde, level 68)
Blood Elf = Warlock (speed leveller, like NE above)
Forsaken = Warlock (PVP speciaiist)
Orc = Warlock (RP only)
Tauren = Hunter

How I play them differently (besides what is stated above):
* professions = each side (alliance/horde) has every profession among them, and are going to max them out.
* twinks = the human warlock and the troll hunter are in the 60's --- they twink out the others with gold, items, etc that they don't need (which helps speed things up)
* different guilds with different focuses
* different focuses of play
* differnet talent builds - i have all the areas covered among warlocks and hunters - I have a demo lock, an affliction lock, a destro lock, and a couple combinations; and I have a BM hunter, a MM hunter, etc and combos)

Thus, all are played differently, interact in the game differently,
and are in differnet starting areas. Sure, they hit the same areas after the newbie zones, but they are all doing different things - soloing, guilds with different focuses, some pvp, some rp'ing, working on all different professions, etc

OCD? Maybe. But I'm having a blast doing it !

amgyn
13-06-2007, 10:50 AM
i love my new hunter (level 39 almost 40!) .. and from my experience playing the game (over a year now).. i know how to play him well, how to protect the healer in a group, how to pull aggro to freeze trap.. a hunter can be your best friend :-D

also in pvp.. many-times i've been kited by hunters.. its nice to see and do the kiting from the kiters perspective now :-D

Icefrost
13-06-2007, 11:02 AM
got dead tired in the Barrens...
Try playing alliance instead of horde?

*Edit: /spits on Elves (both kind). But I still hate you, and always will.
Another case of "they-are-all-legolas-wannabes" -sydrome? From me you'll only get a spit right back at ya.:wink:

ascendedavatar
13-06-2007, 11:25 AM
If it's in-game ROLEPLAYING racism, ie, a toon of one race that hates another, say orcs hate all humans, or trolls hate all elves, or Forsaken who hates anyone living - that's all fine and good. It's a game. it's based on hostility between factions, between the races of those factions.
I don't know anyone who hates a race in WOW due to some real life comparison of races :P

Personally, how could anyone hate N.Elves and B. Elves? they are gorgeous

Icefrost
13-06-2007, 11:36 AM
they are gorgeous
Most of the time that's the reason why people hate 'em.
And just yo give you another one to chew on:
I'm all for night elves, but hate blood elves. Can you think of an explanation to that?

Twoflower
13-06-2007, 02:23 PM
I just love seeing my name at or near the top of the Damage Meter followed closely by my pet.

sorry, but you are not talking about being in a party whit other people, do you ? Your Pet ?? near the top of the damage meter ? what were you doing ? a run whit 2 deftanks and 2 holypaladins ?

Maelfurion
13-06-2007, 02:37 PM
Hunters are easy if you lvl up solo. But to be a good trap puller in a group is kinda challenge. You can have no skill to lvl up to be good in a team requires more skills

Raemaar
13-06-2007, 03:20 PM
Enjoy trying to bring people down when they express their joy in something :) you sound like a real winner and supporter of others :thumbsup:

Not going to work on me :) so get your negativity out of my thread and go find something else to do :)

Just wanted to say, this is one of the best posts i've seen in a long time, nice one!

Toolio
13-06-2007, 03:30 PM
Sorry to be so blunt, but if you proclaim to "hate" a WoW race, chances are you're a child with nothing better to do. Perhaps you're entirely too immersed in the game and forget to remind yourself that IT ISN'T REAL. Not all Night Elves are newbs. Not all undead are ganking rogues.

Or maybe you just use the term "hate" loosely. Maybe "dislike" is more appropriate?

Regardless, some of you guys have no clue how ignorant you sound. But again, I'll chalk it up to immaturity. That's the only reasonable explanation I can come up with. I just can't fathom... oh, never mind. Like pissing in the wind.

Icefrost
13-06-2007, 04:15 PM
Sorry to be so blunt, but if you proclaim to "hate" a WoW race, chances are you're a child with nothing better to do. Perhaps you're entirely too immersed in the game and forget to remind yourself that IT ISN'T REAL. Not all Night Elves are newbs. Not all undead are ganking rogues.

Or maybe you just use the term "hate" loosely. Maybe "dislike" is more appropriate?Ah, the traditional "get a life" -post. And if I told you I'm just a regular guy with a regular life and still have time to think about the storyline behind a video game I like to play? Is that against the laws of physics or something?
Why make such a generalization while you are obviously smart enough not to fall into the other two you mentioned?

Hate, dislike, the difference doesn't sound so big to someone who doesn't speak english everyday.

CorinthianSC
13-06-2007, 04:40 PM
sorry, but you are not talking about being in a party whit other people, do you ? Your Pet ?? near the top of the damage meter ? what were you doing ? a run whit 2 deftanks and 2 holypaladins ?


My cat pulled 600 DPS vs Curator not too long ago.

BM Hunter + Enh Shaman + Fury War + Feral Drood = :D

To those talking about how 'Easy' Hunters are: Do something besides solo grind. When you need to maintain shot rotations with accuracy down to a tenth of a second just to be competitive, it's not so easy.

MadVlad
13-06-2007, 04:41 PM
Hate, dislike, the difference doesn't sound so big to someone who doesn't speak english everyday.

Or to someone who, I don't know, isn't so freakin' literal??

Baal
13-06-2007, 05:05 PM
Try playing alliance instead of horde?

Another case of "they-are-all-legolas-wannabes" -sydrome? From me you'll only get a spit right back at ya.:wink:

I have played alliance - and I dislike it. It simply doesn't feel right. Horde is where I belong.

No, not really. Just a case of I hate Elves. I simply don't like them - period. I don't like how they look. I don't like their voices. I don't like their animations. I don't like their mounts. I don't like anything about them.

When it comes to Elves, I wouldn't care if they all burned and never came back ;)

*Oh - and I'd like to point something out. To those talking about racism, and getting upset about it... It's a video game. Time for a reality check ;) My dislike/hate/whatever you want to call it for Elves has nothing to do with anything in real life, how old I am, or how I feel about real races in real life.

Elves don't exist... And the two types only exist in WoW. I dislike what Blizzard came up with and put in the game... Chill ;) I'm claiming hate/dislike for the pixels on my screen that represent Elves in WoW.

Now Dwarves!!! Every time I see a dwarf run by I give a cheery wave and cheer. I love Dwarves in this game.

Twoflower
13-06-2007, 05:23 PM
My cat pulled 600 DPS vs Curator not too long ago.

BM Hunter + Enh Shaman + Fury War + Feral Drood = :D

To those talking about how 'Easy' Hunters are: Do something besides solo grind. When you need to maintain shot rotations with accuracy down to a tenth of a second just to be competitive, it's not so easy.

that still wouldnt even scratch my 1000 dps... i am offended by the idea of a pet coming close to my damage.

CorinthianSC
13-06-2007, 05:45 PM
that still wouldnt even scratch my 1000 dps... i am offended by the idea of a pet coming close to my damage.

Me + Kitty = 1500+ DPS that round. It was rediculous.

Ceera
13-06-2007, 10:31 PM
Finally I've found the class I was meant to play.

I had played my Priest to 60 and really got tired of the game and had a very hard time playing him... However, I also had a hard time finding a character to level past 15 or 20. I always deleted and got dead tired in the Barrens...

However, I've finally found the class for me. I've got a level 34 (almost 35) Troll Hunter, who's now in Booty Bay picking up quests, and he's damn fun.

I just love the class.

I love the pets. I love the skills. I love the survivability.

I've been doing quests in the red with him even - which I never did on my priest. Never dreamed of it. I love being able to take out mobs that are 7-8 levels higher than me...

I just wanted to get that out :)



Looks like I chose the correct class for my baby Draenei..even if you don't like Elves. But you are a Troll, at least we are both blue... :girly:

xDarkDrifterx
13-06-2007, 10:59 PM
Finally I've found the class I was meant to play.

Gratz~ :grin:

I'm claiming hate/dislike for the pixels on my screen that represent Elves in WoW.

Now Dwarves!!! Every time I see a dwarf run by I give a cheery wave and cheer. I love Dwarves in this game.

Are you by chance under 5'1"? LOL j/k don't answer . . . . :laughing:

amgyn
13-06-2007, 11:20 PM
sorry, but you are not talking about being in a party whit other people, do you ? Your Pet ?? near the top of the damage meter ? what were you doing ? a run whit 2 deftanks and 2 holypaladins ?

my lowbie hunter 39 almost 40 in an SM cath run with warlock/rogue as the other 2 dps... i came first my pet 4th combined we had 50% of the dps

Tollin
13-06-2007, 11:47 PM
Well good for you Mr. OP.

I hope you enjoy ruling the BattleGrounds as I have yet to see something regularly roll thru every class like a BM specced hunter can do, its just insane.

Zendarin
14-06-2007, 02:23 AM
Sheesh - a lot of hate going on in this thread.

Personally I don't see how you can just arbitrarily hate an entire race -whether a real race or a fantasy race - unless they as a race are just inherently evil.

Don't like how they look or sound? Get over it. They may be fantasy characters but there are real people behind those characters.

Trolls are ugly as sin but that doesn't mean if I meet a nice troll I will hate him just because - and when I play a troll I like other trolls. It's those repulsive skwishees that I have trouble dealing with.

Dwarves on the other hand - well I like some dwarves and others I don't. Some of them are just too negative.

Gnomes are annoying at times but they do make cute pets.

Findariel
14-06-2007, 02:36 AM
Ehm ok, congrats with finding your fav class!

I have to agree, it's really easy mode playing hunter (or warlock for what that's concerned). But well you're really enjoying it apparantly, as I have to confess I like playing my warlock.

edit: *spits back*

odinsnephew
14-06-2007, 03:01 AM
Ehm ok, congrats with finding your fav class!

I have to agree, it's really easy mode playing hunter (or warlock for what that's concerned). But well you're really enjoying it apparantly, as I have to confess I like playing my warlock.

edit: *spits back*

Im getting slightly annoyed now (not with you personally Findariel :wave:) with this nonsense that hunters are the easy class. People make it sound like they just wander around - send pet - auto shot = easy. Maybe, maybe not.

I have specifically chosen MM spec so im not just a walking around killing stuff with Huggy bear & picking up stuff along the way.

I have never been BM spec, in fact that would take a lot away from the class for me - I would rather choose MM/surv over BM.

No class is easy = all classes are easy. All classes are hard = no class is hard. Its what you make of it :)

We all have the same amount of weaknesses so can people stop crying about what they havnt got?

I would love my hunter to have some of the attributes other classes have - just as others would love feign death or similar hunter attributes.

I do fine with what I have & wish people would stop calling hunters "easy mode".

/rant over.

As I say Fin, not directed at you, but I just had to say this :)

<edit> the above counts for Locks......to a lesser degree ofc :)

Findariel
14-06-2007, 03:14 AM
Im getting slightly annoyed now with this nonsense that hunters are the easy class. People make it sound like they just wander around - send pet - auto shot = easy. Maybe, maybe not.
No class is easy = all classes are easy. All classes are hard = no class is hard. Its what you make of it :)

I would love my hunter to have some of the attributes other classes have - just as others would love feign death or similar hunter attributes.
I do fine with what I have & wish people would stop calling hunters "easy mode".

Well ehmm .. I tried almost all classes to around lvl 40 and personally I just found those 2 classes (lock + hunter) a lot easier to play/level than the others. I thought that was general knowledge that about everyone agrees upon?

I can't speak about lvl60-70 content because I only have very limited experience in that bracket (I guess grinding AD rep scared the hell out of me and I now have a end-game trauma).

But as I said, Blizz never said all classes should be equally strong/easy and I read for instance that in raids, hunters aren't that good and asked for at all.

Anyway, people should play the class(es) they feel most comfortable with, but why deny that some are a lot easier to play/level than others?

Zendarin
14-06-2007, 04:32 AM
but why deny that some are a lot easier to play/level than others?

Easy to play does not equate to easy to play well. Sure, its easy to go BM spec and just send in your pet and go pew pew - but it is difficult to master the techniques that can make a hunter an outstanding addition to a raid or even an instance.

Sure I just started a hunter and have a long ways to go but I am serious about playing my hunter well and I am amazed by what I am learning about the capabilities of a hunter in large group situations.

No matter what the spec a Hunter can be a blessing or a curse in a large group but DON"T automatically write off all hunters as being on the "easy train". The really good hunters have not only had to work to master their craft but they have to be good enough to let their personal reputation overcome a bias against the class in general.

The fact that a hunter IS so easy to lvl has also become it's curse - you wind up with a great many high lvl hunters that have never invested what it takes to become the great class they can be.

I would admonish those of you who put down hunters to not judge the class as a whole but judge the individual player - and to my fellow hunter players out there do your class proud. Learn the techniques that can save the healer in your raid group, do the pulls that NO one else can do, and set the standard in agro management and crowd control. Then let them talk about easy mode....

ascendedavatar
14-06-2007, 08:13 AM
Most of the time that's the reason why people hate 'em.
And just yo give you another one to chew on:
I'm all for night elves, but hate blood elves. Can you think of an explanation to that?

well, besides just personal taste (yours regarding the two elven races) I can't think of a reason...so what is it? :ponder:

ascendedavatar
14-06-2007, 08:16 AM
Or to someone who, I don't know, isn't so freakin' literal??

No doubt - the amount of criticism from the locals about punctuation, grammar, nit-picking over every word, just shows people have too much time on their hands.

IMO, boards like these are for information, communication, community of fellow wow fans, etc - not an official class forum for a university.

Heck, half these posters could be 12 years old - how about cutting people some slack?

ascendedavatar
14-06-2007, 08:18 AM
that still wouldnt even scratch my 1000 dps... i am offended by the idea of a pet coming close to my damage.

My pet does more damage than any warrior I've grouped with.
That's one bad pig.

As far as being "offended" by the idea? Grow up.

kcma
14-06-2007, 09:03 AM
*Edit: /spits on Elves (both kind). But I still hate you, and always will.

Enjoy trying to bring people down when they express their joy in something :) you sound like a real winner and supporter of others :thumbsup:

Not going to work on me :) so get your negativity out of my thread and go find something else to do :)

how's that for hypocracy? i love my elves!!

and technicaly this is NOT yoru thread it belongs to WWN, kindda like your chars in WOW belongs to bliz.

and yes, hunter = ez mode <3

clevins
14-06-2007, 09:10 AM
lol kcma.... Just perfect.

and yes, you do sound immature folks. And yes, hunters are easy to level.

But the important thing is that you have fun - and if the class clicks, not much else matters..

rottentomato
14-06-2007, 09:27 AM
omg what a bunch of whining -
don't listen to that - you can post for anything you want - it doesn't have to be "constructive" ! If the moderators went thru and deleted every "non constructive post" there'd be like 10% left, lol!

Hunters ARE fun - and it doesn't take the fun out of the game, quite the opposite !
With a hunter and pet, you can go for HARDER quests, things ABOVE your level, get faster levelling (which is always a great thing) and
take on major challenges! Why not? Why piddle around with quests that take you 20 or 30 of them to go up a level? Hit the harder stuff with a hunter, and level much faster.
You get to play the game,
rather than just grind or quest with little stuff hoping you don't get your butt kicked every ten seconds ... it's way fun.

My guild had some people groan when i joined because I only run
hunters & warlocks --- but hey, to heck with them - it's a game!
Play what you want!
I've seen parties in instances/raids made up of the most unlikely combinations and they kick it's butt!

And, outdoors (non-instance) a group of warlocks or hunters can
serious wtfpwn quests, mobs, everything!

Plus, you can solo so much easier w/out having to get some pug full of losers

I'd like to point out where you are wrong right here....
quest XP is a standard number until you grey it out...if you do a quest at lvl 15 meant for a lvl 22 and its red, then you get the exact same xp as if you held onto it until lvl 22 when it is green and is perfectly easy to do. you do gain a little more xp per kill which equates to slightly more xp overall, but you def. dont kill a red colored mob fast enough for it to be worthwhile as a kill...i can kill 3 green colored mobs, and get more xp than if i were to kill a red colored mob. so in essence you are severely gimping your xp/hr thinking you are gaining more xp for the quest...sadly you hurt yourself.

as a hunter, i found i can take mobs 5-6 levels above me without too much of a problem...

as a priest i found i can take mobs 5-6 levels above me without too much of a problem...


the difference is, if i get in a bind, the hunter always seems to have some easier out... the priest i just get psychic scream, fade, bubble, and run away...hunter i got FD and traps....so i drop a trap and run off, or FD if need be...

all classes in wow level just as easily in the right hands...if you find one to level easier than another, then its probably your better class...

i can level a rogue as fast if not faster than a hunter because i am better with the class...i dont have as much fun with one however as i do with my priest. does this mean i shouldnt play a priest just because its slower for me? no...it means i should play a priest because i enjoy it more. its my $15 a month, and i do what i like with it...i play the class i think is enjoyable for me and provides a challenge...not the one i think is just easy to level and get to end game but find completely boring

kcma
14-06-2007, 09:54 AM
fade does nothing when your soloing btw...

rottentomato
14-06-2007, 10:24 AM
fade does nothing when your soloing btw...

besides discourage enemies from attacking me? :ponder: if i fade and run past a mob that usually is in my aggro range they dont come after me like a bat out of hell... that and mind soothe are usually pretty nice...i can almost stealth like a rogue past things...only not as close at all...at least thats what ive noticed

bmunschki
14-06-2007, 10:25 AM
my gf wouldnt like this post one bit, but I get envious of the male blood and night elves when I log on to wow and double click on my priest to let it load.... i love that screen with the human chick doing her magic, and the blood elf chick with her huge book looking so fine. even that undead chick in the back merits a second look. of course I would never roll a woman char because for me my hero needs to be a male. no offense to women i hope.

gnomes and dwarfes I dont like at all, because they are too small to warrant any respect from me. this is not racism, it is simply personal preference. smaller does not mean inferior, it simply means that with cool stuff to wear it doesnt show as much on the little fellas. I dont hate midgets in real life, but if I had a choice of controlling a human in the real world to pick as my wow hero, it wouldnt be midgets!!!

I think most ppl hate elves because they are jealous of the males for having such hot females. A hot BE chick that can seduce you but then kick your butt a second later, thats just leet.

The idea of virtual racism is an interesting one to ponder though.

rottentomato
14-06-2007, 10:29 AM
what does that have to do with the topic of hunters? :ponder:

bmunschki
14-06-2007, 10:32 AM
some posters talked about hating other races, leading to a hint of virtual racism. its a free country and so i posted my views on it. what does it have to do with hunters? nothing i guess. so skip my post if you want, or read it, I dont care.

ascendedavatar
14-06-2007, 11:09 AM
I'd like to point out where you are wrong right here....
quest XP is a standard number until you grey it out...if you do a quest at lvl 15 meant for a lvl 22 and its red, then you get the exact same xp as if you held onto it until lvl 22 when it is green and is perfectly easy to do. you do gain a little more xp per kill which equates to slightly more xp overall, but you def. dont kill a red colored mob fast enough for it to be worthwhile as a kill...i can kill 3 green colored mobs, and get more xp than if i were to kill a red colored mob. so in essence you are severely gimping your xp/hr thinking you are gaining more xp for the quest...sadly you hurt yourself.

as a hunter, i found i can take mobs 5-6 levels above me without too much of a problem...

as a priest i found i can take mobs 5-6 levels above me without too much of a problem...


the difference is, if i get in a bind, the hunter always seems to have some easier out... the priest i just get psychic scream, fade, bubble, and run away...hunter i got FD and traps....so i drop a trap and run off, or FD if need be...

all classes in wow level just as easily in the right hands...if you find one to level easier than another, then its probably your better class...

i can level a rogue as fast if not faster than a hunter because i am better with the class...i dont have as much fun with one however as i do with my priest. does this mean i shouldnt play a priest just because its slower for me? no...it means i should play a priest because i enjoy it more. its my $15 a month, and i do what i like with it...i play the class i think is enjoyable for me and provides a challenge...not the one i think is just easy to level and get to end game but find completely boring

No, not wrong, just didn't clarify - I only do kill quests, not errand boy quests. So when I'm doing kill quests, the mobs I kill that are normally out of my range, are quite rewarding xp-wise for my current level. Mobs I can kill as a hunter, but not as a solo class.

ascendedavatar
14-06-2007, 11:14 AM
my gf wouldnt like this post one bit, but I get envious of the male blood and night elves when I log on to wow and double click on my priest to let it load.... i love that screen with the human chick doing her magic, and the blood elf chick with her huge book looking so fine. even that undead chick in the back merits a second look. of course I would never roll a woman char because for me my hero needs to be a male. no offense to women i hope.

gnomes and dwarfes I dont like at all, because they are too small to warrant any respect from me. this is not racism, it is simply personal preference. smaller does not mean inferior, it simply means that with cool stuff to wear it doesnt show as much on the little fellas. I dont hate midgets in real life, but if I had a choice of controlling a human in the real world to pick as my wow hero, it wouldnt be midgets!!!

I think most ppl hate elves because they are jealous of the males for having such hot females. A hot BE chick that can seduce you but then kick your butt a second later, thats just leet.

The idea of virtual racism is an interesting one to ponder though.

All my characters are female. If I have to look at the rear end of a character for countless hours, it better be one I like looking at...looking at a guy's butt does nothing for me, so I'd rather look at a female human/blood elf/night elf/draenei backside any day.
The only exceptions are gnomes - I like the female one because it's cute and the female gnomes' laugh is adorable - not because of it's physique, that would be a bit sick (gnomes being child-sized). The pink hair, the cute laugh, it's funny to play in a RP mode with that one, and make fun of hordies as I'm annihilating them when they come a'callin' to Alliance lands.
Also Forsaken. I don't get any kicks off looking at a female corpse so it doesn't matter which I pick for them. Oh and Tauren. The males look much cooler (imo) and more fierce. And the troll males look beyond lame.

rottentomato
14-06-2007, 11:29 AM
you might want to stop the double posting...and how long does it take you to kill that mob thats 4 levels above you? plus then downtime youre going to have after to mend pet/eat/drink

ok now to the math....

you are lvl 20....

here is the xp for killing a lvl 24... 609xp....now this kill took about 40-60 seconds im sure... as they have a substantial amount of health and armor over you... the mob also nearly killed your pet, or did kill your pet, and you are probably out of mana...now compare to if you killed 6 lvl 18 mobs two levels below you.... 118xp per kill for 6 kills 708 xp....your pet is at 3/4 to 1/2 health most likely...the kills took 8-10 seconds a piece, and you get 5 more mobs to loot off of, plus you have about 1/2-3/4 your mana leftover...so after two kills you drink twice, which means 30 seconds of down time, plus you have to bandage/heal pet, you may have to eat as well since you may have killed pet, which means you have to res... and you gained 1218xp and only got to loot 2 mobs... meanwhile i killed 12 mobs in that time, only had to drink at the end of that, MAYBE had to heal my pet at the very end i got almost 200 more xp than you and got to loot 10 more mobs...which sounds better to you


the reason i didnt do the math for 5 levels higher is because a red colored mob caps out at the same as an orange level mob 4 above you

Wintrow
14-06-2007, 11:55 AM
Fear the Elves ... lol ... we're coming to get ya .........................

and gnomes are cute, come on now ....

I bet you think female trolls are sexy .... lol

The sad thing about playing Horde is that, after a while, the females start looking good :shocked:

jasonclassic
14-06-2007, 08:48 PM
that still wouldnt even scratch my 1000 dps... i am offended by the idea of a pet coming close to my damage.

sorry to offend, maybe you should try BM spec hunter? Nothing we can do about your own sense of mediocracy...

myusernameistaken
14-06-2007, 09:42 PM
besides discourage enemies from attacking me? :ponder: if i fade and run past a mob that usually is in my aggro range they dont come after me like a bat out of hell... that and mind soothe are usually pretty nice...i can almost stealth like a rogue past things...only not as close at all...at least thats what ive noticed

Sorry Rotten, afraid that's wrong. Mind Soothe works like that, Fade is just an aggro dumping device, doesn't reduce aggro radius of mobs. It lowers your threat for a while, however I believe when it where's off you get all the threat back plus any you generated while Faded so you can't assume you have carte blanche, you need to still (if not more so) aggro-control.

rottentomato
15-06-2007, 05:18 AM
Sorry Rotten, afraid that's wrong. Mind Soothe works like that, Fade is just an aggro dumping device, doesn't reduce aggro radius of mobs. It lowers your threat for a while, however I believe when it where's off you get all the threat back plus any you generated while Faded so you can't assume you have carte blanche, you need to still (if not more so) aggro-control.

haha got home and checked what one i click one, and its def. mind soothe and not fade...i feel like an R tard now... :banghead:

ascendedavatar
15-06-2007, 01:37 PM
you might want to stop the double posting...and how long does it take you to kill that mob thats 4 levels above you? plus then downtime youre going to have after to mend pet/eat/drink

ok now to the math....

you are lvl 20....

here is the xp for killing a lvl 24... 609xp....now this kill took about 40-60 seconds im sure... as they have a substantial amount of health and armor over you... the mob also nearly killed your pet, or did kill your pet, and you are probably out of mana...now compare to if you killed 6 lvl 18 mobs two levels below you.... 118xp per kill for 6 kills 708 xp....your pet is at 3/4 to 1/2 health most likely...the kills took 8-10 seconds a piece, and you get 5 more mobs to loot off of, plus you have about 1/2-3/4 your mana leftover...so after two kills you drink twice, which means 30 seconds of down time, plus you have to bandage/heal pet, you may have to eat as well since you may have killed pet, which means you have to res... and you gained 1218xp and only got to loot 2 mobs... meanwhile i killed 12 mobs in that time, only had to drink at the end of that, MAYBE had to heal my pet at the very end i got almost 200 more xp than you and got to loot 10 more mobs...which sounds better to you


the reason i didnt do the math for 5 levels higher is because a red colored mob caps out at the same as an orange level mob 4 above you

Why should I stop double posting?
Unless you quote me chapter and verse where it says I can't post more than once, then I could care less about your little rule. I'll post 500 times if I care too. And more, the more you harp on it.

addict
15-06-2007, 03:00 PM
For one, it's common courtesy on every forum to keep it as clutter free as you can, besides that if you click that little button on the top of the page that says rules you will find:
It gives us a warm feeling in our tummies that you care about your post count and your forum ranking here at WorlofWar.Net. But if we see you posting meaningless tripe to edge up the count, or using the forum for a chitchat better suited to ICQ or AIM or our chat room we'll ask you to stop. And reset your post counter to -450. Yeah, we're evil like that.

When replying to multiple posts within the same thread we ask that you use a single post to do so. Use the Insert text here command in your reply to quote the person's name and comment you are replying too.

rottentomato
15-06-2007, 06:16 PM
For one, it's common courtesy on every forum to keep it as clutter free as you can, besides that if you click that little button on the top of the page that says rules you will find:

oh you forgot this

D) Subset of Commandment 2 really. NO BACK TO BACK POSTING within a one hour timeframe. We only allow this in special circumstances. Posting multiple pictures to illustrate a story. Mongojerry's work with Neriad is a good example of this. The other example being, if you've reached the maximum in allowed symbols (meaning letters, numbers, punctuation etc.) Usually occurs with patch notes or veeeeery long stories in the fan fiction setting, though keep in mind, the individual Mods in their respective forums have the final say. Anyway, otherwise use the quote command as politely requested in Commandment 2.




and thats why

odinsnephew
15-06-2007, 07:45 PM
Why should I stop double posting?
Unless you quote me chapter and verse where it says I can't post more than once, then I could care less about your little rule. I'll post 500 times if I care too. And more, the more you harp on it.

Post as much as you want mate & enjoy doing so ;)

But as the posters said above really, please dont double/triple post. There is an edit button for a reason :thumbsup:

Oh and its not rottentomato's "little rule" as you say - its the forum rules my friend.

Zendarin
16-06-2007, 12:26 AM
Why should I stop double posting?
Unless you quote me chapter and verse where it says I can't post more than once, then I could care less about your little rule. I'll post 500 times if I care too. And more, the more you harp on it.

As a forum admin recently pointed out - if you double post and someone in the forums corrects you and you take it to heart they will ignore it.

If (on the other hand) you respond as you have done, showing a flagrant disregard for the forum rules, you will find yourself with a 3 day suspension very quickly.

I triple posted on a thread a few weeks back not knowing the rules. I never heard a word about it, but I also apologized in my own post when I found out the rules and made it clear that I would not do it in the future.