New to WoW, PVP, RPG, non PVP?

[codral]

Hi all, will have finished Mu online in a few days (almost max level) and decided i'd try WoW out, see if i like it.

Now i only have a few questions but i'm confused and don't want to make a char in the wrong place.

Is there RPG, PVP and NON-PVP servers in each realm, or are there different types of realms that are either RPG, PVP or NON-PVP specifically? (e.g. if i choose a NON-PVP realm, then the character i make there will be stuck to NON-PVP forever? (and therefore be quite booooring))

Also can i have characters on each realm? What is the advantage too that, doesn't seem sensible to have multiple characters just to mess around on different server typres (RPG, PVP, NON-PVP)

Thanks, i just wanted to ask this b4 i made a char in the wrong spot, the website doesnt explain it very well

[Stigg]

there different types of realms that are either RPG, PVP or NON-PVP specifically?

Also can i have characters on each realm?
Yes

What is the advantage too that?

So that you can play different classes, races, etc. And, on PVP servers, you can only have the same faction...so if you roll horde, your horde forever on that server (unless you delete them all).

And, sometimes you just want to try out a whole new realm...each one is unique in their prices, their guilds, etc.

[Zendarin]

Hi all, will have finished Mu online in a few days (almost max level) and decided i'd try WoW out, see if i like it.

Now i only have a few questions but i'm confused and don't want to make a char in the wrong place.

Is there RPG, PVP and NON-PVP servers in each realm, or are there different types of realms that are either RPG, PVP or NON-PVP specifically? (e.g. if i choose a NON-PVP realm, then the character i make there will be stuck to NON-PVP forever? (and therefore be quite booooring))

Also can i have characters on each realm? What is the advantage too that, doesn't seem sensible to have multiple characters just to mess around on different server typres (RPG, PVP, NON-PVP)

Thanks, i just wanted to ask this b4 i made a char in the wrong spot, the website doesnt explain it very well

Ok here is a brief rundown:

Realm = Server. Interchangeable terms.

If you choose a PVP server you can have Alliance characters OR you can have horde character - you cannot have both. A PvE realm you can have characters on both sides.

PvE server does NOT mean that you cannot do PvP - you can do PvP in arenas or battlegrounds and you can also flag yourself as PvP anywhere in the game at any time. What it means is you can go out and level without getting ganked (unless of course you have flagged yourself as PvP and decided to attack a city held by the other side in which case it is open season on you).

RP (Roleplay) servers can be either PvP or Pve - they are listed as RP (for PvE roleplay servers) or RP PvP (self explanatory).

You can creat up to 8 characters on any one server and you can create up to 50 characters in the game (I think they limit you to being spread across 10 servers though) so this means you can try a PvE server and as soon as you gain a few levels give the battlegrounds a try for some good PvP action. If you decide you don't like it you can try a PVP server.

There is one caveat to this however - if you roll on a PVP server and decide you are tired of being ganked but don't want to reroll you can actually pay Blizzard to move all of your characters over to a PvE or RP PvE server. You CAN NOT move from a PvE server to a PvP server however.

This is for good reason - people would lvl to 70 on a PvE where it is much safer to level and the move to the PvP server and create havoc withough having to pay the stiffer penalty to level there so it is simply not allowed.

[Toxicshadow]

Here's a common mistake when transfering from other games:
In WoW, "Realm" is simply the word used instead of "Server". "Factions" is the word used for the 2 teams.

Anyway, you can make up to 50 characters on a number of Realms (servers, that is) and, depending on the realm(server)-type you may or may not be allowed to play on both sides.

The RP, PvP, RPPVP, and Normal types are realm(server)-specific. Once you make your char on a realm(server) - any realm(server) - you'll only ever* be able to play on that one realm(server) with that one character, although you'll still be allowed on making up to 9 (or is it 8?) more characters on that realm, and a total of 49 split across the realms. As long as it's neither a PvP nor a RPPvP realm you'll be able to make characters on both sides.
*) There's a few ways to transfer characters between servers. Either this happens as Blizzard opens up another server or attempts to boost the population of one that already exists, or it happens by that you give them a stack of (RL) money and they transfer your character. Either way you'll never be able to transfer from a non-PvP to a PvP realm.

So yes, if you make a character on a non-PvP realm(server) you'll be stuck on normal and RP servers unless you make a new char, simply because lvling on a PvP server is so much harder. I should mention here that being on a non-PvP server doesn't mean you can't PvP, it just means that your opponent must volunteer to engage in PvP combat.

And the advantage of having chars on multiple realms: Lets you mess around with the different realmtypes, nothing else.

[codral]

OK thanks guys that clears up alot of stuff, i have two more questions. What specifically is the role playing server, how does it differ from the PvE and PvP servers? (the site said u can play it as yourself or something)

Also, would this be best for me, as i only want to level one character, not multiple ones

[Blakbow]

I just wanted to interject one thing. There is one advantage to having both a pve and pvp realm character, in that you can use the pve toon to explore and familiarize yourself with the world and then have knowledge of places and people on your pvp and have to do alot less looking around and being out in the open to get ganked. Thats what i did and learned a few 'back routes' that helped out dramatically on my pvp and have kept me out of the line of ganking quite a bit.
Of course you may not want to take the time to do that, but that is one advantage.

[codral]

On PVP realms is there no penalty for PK'ing? (e.g. on mu you kill 1 person u get warning, 2 people you can get killed but ppl dont benefit, 3+ people you are red and can get killed by people wanting hero status, and it takes +3 hours to clear for every kill (or kill mobs it clears faster) with a max of 99 hours)

Also on PVP realms theres just ppl running around everywhere lopping off heads?

[Zendarin]

OK thanks guys that clears up alot of stuff, i have two more questions. What specifically is the role playing server, how does it differ from the PvE and PvP servers? (the site said u can play it as yourself or something)

Also, would this be best for me, as i only want to level one character, not multiple ones

RP just means role playing. What this means is (theoretically) you are supposed to speak in character. For instance - instead of saying "hey dude, can you help finish this quest so I can level?" you might say something like "Good sir knight wouldst thou lend assistance in my hour of need? There is some rabble in need of justice!"

You will also see more original names and a whole lot less night elves with some variation of the name Legolas.

Some claim you get a more mature player base on an RP server but personally, unless you are really in to being in character all the time I wouldn't bother.

There are both PvE RP servers (known as just RP) and PVP RP servers (listed as RP PVP).

[codral]

Wow thats realllllllly weird, like freakishly disturbingly weird ima steer clear of that one, seems kinda ghey heh

I'm going to be a rogue/warrior (one of em) on a PvE server i reckon, 1 hour until this massively huge download finishes >.<

[Toxicshadow]

On PVP realms is there no penalty for PK'ing? (e.g. on mu you kill 1 person u get warning, 2 people you can get killed but ppl dont benefit, 3+ people you are red and can get killed by people wanting hero status, and it takes +3 hours to clear for every kill (or kill mobs it clears faster) with a max of 99 hours)

Also on PVP realms theres just ppl running around everywhere lopping off heads?
There's no penalty for PKing, on ANY realm, under ANY circumstance, other than that you'll be attackable for 5 mins even if in friendly territory. If you're in hostile or contested (the latter existing only on PvP realms) territories, there's absolutely no penalty whatsoever for PKing.

I should mention here that you'll only GAIN something off PKing (honor, specifically, which you can use to purchase PvP items) if the enemy you kill is near your lvl.. for a lvl 70 that means the dead guy gotta b lvl 62 or higher iirc.

And yes, there's ppl just running around everywhere that they can attack you on PvP realms lopping off heads. It's known as "ganking", and it's the reason you can't transfer from a PvE to a PvP realm.

[snowieken]

Wow thats realllllllly weird, like freakishly disturbingly weird ima steer clear of that one, seems kinda ghey heh

I'm going to be a rogue/warrior (one of em) on a PvE server i reckon, 1 hour until this massively huge download finishes >.<A better example that might teach you a bit more respect for roleplaying: my girlfriend has an older looking human priest on an RP server (gray hair, balding), and he usually refers to others as "son" for males or "dear" for females. He declines duels with the message that "he is too old for this kind of games". It's not freaky or weird, it's just a fun way of being connected with your character a bit more.

Roleplayers in WoW usually don't use "thou" when they speak to each other, and when they do, they are pretty much ridiculed for it. It's basically a misunderstanding about roleplaying, which I think Zendarin is illustrating well here.

On a side note, can you please not use that word as an insult, no matter how it's spelled?

[Toxicshadow]

RP just means role playing. What this means is (theoretically) you are supposed to speak in character. For instance - instead of saying "hey dude, can you help finish this quest so I can level?" you might say something like "Good sir knight wouldst thou lend assistance in my hour of need? There is some rabble in need of justice!"
No, that's how non-RPers speak when they try to use their (non-existant) RP skills to make a healer join their group. Being in character will quite contrary mean that a.. say Rogue would NEVER speak like that to a.. say Paladin.

Unless, of course, if playing a joke on him.

[Zendarin]

Roleplayers in WoW usually don't use "thou" when they speak to each other, and when they do, they are pretty much ridiculed for it. It's basically a misunderstanding about roleplaying, which I think Zendarin is illustrating well here.

/me sticks his tongue out at Snowieken

:tongue:

[codral]

Okkk ok thanks guys for the help

(on a side note i will not stop using gay, ghey or gey as an insult, as it's not only generally meant in a light hearted way but also can be the biggest of insults.. such a handy word i cannot ignore)

[snowieken]

(on a side note i will not stop using gay, ghey or gey as an insult, as it's not only generally meant in a light hearted way but also can be the biggest of insults.. such a handy word i cannot ignore)Think again. As I said, we don't tolerate that word being used as an insult, because it just isn't supposed to be one. This was not a suggestion. In general, when we moderators ask you to stop doing something, you'd better do so.

[codral]

OK thanks for the help

If you wouldn't mind could you explain how the word "gay" isn't supposed to be an insult? If i call you gay i'm implying that you do unnatural things with men, e.g. take it up the arse. To not take that as an insult you would either have to be gay or be bi..
thanks

[Zendarin]

OK thanks for the help

If you wouldn't mind could you explain how the word "gay" isn't supposed to be an insult? If i call you gay i'm implying that you do unnatural things with men, e.g. take it up the arse. To not take that as an insult you would either have to be gay or be bi..
thanks

Ummm... really stupid comment. By that logic it would be ok to use racial slurs because the only way you would be offended is if you were of that race. If you use the word gay (or ghey for that matter) to mean something bad you are attacking homosexuals. For the same reason there are many older expressions which are no longer acceptable. You cannot, for example, say you "jewed somebody down in price" as this is anti-semitic and stereotypes and implies negative things about a very great people.

Perhaps no one would be offended if there were no Israeli people reading the forum but chances are many people would be offended by such a narrow and biased attitude. By the same token you using the statement you did in the way you used it is "bashing" homosexuals. Perhaps no one would be offended by this if there were no homosexuals reading the forums, but chances are even many heterosexuals would take offense at such an insulting attitude.

You may have just earned yourself suspension or banning from this sight. Also not smart.

This forum is populated by mature people who help one another and that sort of juvenile behaviour is not tolerated. If you are told to stop my a moderator and you do then that's it end of story - if you choose instead to argue about it with a mod as you have done you will probably be gone. No loss.

[codral]

niga please... How could that be anti semetic? 90% of Jew's aren't descendants of Shem or even live in the middle east therefore it couldn't be semetic...

[snowieken]

If you wouldn't mind could you explain how the word "gay" isn't supposed to be an insult? If i call you gay i'm implying that you do unnatural things with men, e.g. take it up the arse. To not take that as an insult you would either have to be gay or be bi..No, you don't. It might come as a surprise to you, but there are lots of heterosexuals who have no problem with homosexuality whatsoever. And using "gay" as an insult is, as Zendarin said (this time he's correct), a personal attack on homosexuals and many heterosexuals take offense to that as well. Like me.

Heck, I initially thought it was just a slip of the tongue, as many people use that word as an insult. I just wanted to set you straight on that, make clear to you that it's not the right thing to do. But I get the feeling you don't understand why.

We like this forum to be mature about things. In what kind of century do you think you live? There is nothing wrong with homosexuality, just for the same reason there is nothing wrong with being black or yellow or purple with white dots. Your personal opinion about homosexuals is your own, but we do not tolerate racial slurs or gay bashing in any form. Using the word as an insult is a minor form of gay bashing, but trying to defend it with this explanation is going over the top. For that reason alone you're threading on very thin ice here.

Stop using the word as an insult, as I have asked you the first time, and stop defending it. While you're at it, you might want to try to change your point of view on certain things in life as well. There's enough homophobic crap going around as it is.

[Zendarin]

niga please... How could that be anti semetic? 90% of Jew's aren't descendants of Shem or even live in the middle east therefore it couldn't be semetic...

Ok so now you are using a racial slur against blacks. Mods can we get this guy kicked please? At this rate there won't be anyone this guy hasn't offended b4 the week is out.

[Toxicshadow]

OK thanks for the help

If you wouldn't mind could you explain how the word "gay" isn't supposed to be an insult? If i call you gay i'm implying that you do unnatural things with men, e.g. take it up the arse. To not take that as an insult you would either have to be gay or be bi..
thanks
Oh that's easy, look it up in a dictionary and check it's original meaning. It meant being happy, so that's how I read it if someone use it against me.

Other than that, wtf have u got against gay, in the other sense of the word, ppl? As long as they don't force you to watch, that's just less competition for hooking up with girls!


Though while we're on this subject.. could anyone please explain to me how ANYONE would think of using the word "pimp" as an insult when used against them? Only heard it a couple of times, but for the life of me I can't figure out what the offense is supposed to be.. I mean, it's not like that's a bad job..

[codral]

The fact that they are unnatural, they dress like women, talk like women, do gay little hand gestures and they take it up the ass.. what else need i have against anyone to justify a strong dislike..

A pimp is someone who procures customers for whores.. pimping whores isn't exactly my ideal job..

[Toxicshadow]

The fact that they are unnatural, they dress like women, talk like women, do gay little hand gestures and they take it up the ass.. what else need i have against anyone to justify a strong dislike..

A pimp is someone who procures customers for whores.. pimping whores isn't exactly my ideal job..
Being paid for having someone have sex with someone else isn't the ideal job?
Oh no, who'd want lots of money at minimal effort!

Anyway, about this thing you got against gay guys..

I'm gonna take a wild guess here and say that you're a religious person?
Now, spending your time in church, reading a several thousand years old book over and over, and judging ppl based on interpretations of that same book seems like an EXTREMELY odd way to behave from my point of view, yet I don't hold it against you as long as you don't force me to watcah.

Behaving like you described also seems quite strange to me, but unlike religious ppl gays don't attempt to force you to join them every couple of centuries, so I really don't see what anyone would have against them. Well, I know what I got against the one gay person I know, but that's got nothing to do with his sexual orientation and have, if anything, been changed to the better since he admitted to prefering guys over girls.


EDIT:
I'd just like to appologice towards anyone (except codral) who may find the phrasing or contents of this post offensive. Unless you're a religious leader who actively supports warfare for the sake of killing those with other religions than your own, it wasn't meant that way, and if it is read that way I can only blaim my English skills. Even though I know a lot of fancy words I've only ever been in English-speaking contries for a total of less than a month so the finer/subliminal messaging still eludes me. Whatever that meant :P

Oh and anyone who didn't like the "pimping is a great job"-bit.. well, I'm not saying it's the best there is, but I doubt you'll convince me it's directly bad.

[Blakbow]

Wow this has gotten really off topic, and I probably shouldn't add fuel to the fire, but I just want to say one thing.
IF you're against people of different sexual orientation becuase of religious beliefs, let me just point out one key phrase as it relates to the bible. Judge not lest ye be judged. For christians there is one thing they should keep in mind. God judges people, not you.
If you don't like homosexuals, fine, but don't come on a forum playing neo-nazi skinhead and trying to start something.
I'm a pretty forgiving person myself when it comes to goofing around, and always take things with a grain of salt, but you're obviously fueling this on purpose for your own amusement, and I find it very sad that you seem to get your kicks by pandering to the lowest level possible for attention.
I'm very glad we're not on the same server.

[Zendarin]

Wow this has gotten really off topic, and I probably shouldn't add fuel to the fire, but I just want to say one thing.
IF you're against people of different sexual orientation becuase of religious beliefs, let me just point out one key phrase as it relates to the bible. Judge not lest ye be judged. For christians there is one thing they should keep in mind. God judges people, not you.
If you don't like homosexuals, fine, but don't come on a forum playing neo-nazi skinhead and trying to start something.
I'm a pretty forgiving person myself when it comes to goofing around, and always take things with a grain of salt, but you're obviously fueling this on purpose for your own amusement, and I find it very sad that you seem to get your kicks by pandering to the lowest level possible for attention.
I'm very glad we're not on the same server.

With the kind of language this moron is using it has nothing to do with religious beliefs - or if it does he is one of the biggest hypocrites to walk the earth.

[codral]

Not religious, i just believe in women. Although i do know one religious fact, and that's that god hates men sleeping with men.. Check the index in the bible out under "homosexuality" sometime =)

I'm going to take a wild guess and say, you've never been with a women, and you like gay porn as much as you like straight porn so your not sure if your gay or not, and are playing it safe by sticking up for gays in case u change ur mind later, right?

[Blakbow]

Wow. Doesn't really matter who you were talking to, thats just plain sad.
Just so you know, no, I'm not gay, I have a very great girlfriend and am very happy, which is one reason I tend to be very laid back. I don't care who or what people are as long as their not jackasses. I'll stick up for people who are being insulted and defamed who aren't here t ostick up for themselves becuase thats my nature.
It just so happened you decided to cry for attention by picking on gay people, and I'd be saying pretty much the same thing had you tried to use any race,religions, sexuality, creed, species, whatever as your means to get the attention you so desperatley seem to need.
Now i'm going to take a wild guess and say you're 13, and by all your concern for the subject of homosexuality, which didn't need to go further than a mod asking you not to use the term gay here (and I'm very familiar with people using the term gay where it involves to anything they dislike, i.e. "Man I don't want to eat at taco bell again, its gay." or whtever where it is used to show displeasure with something.), you must have some conflict of inner self. Please don't work through your problems here.
BTW, read the first line at the top of the page of this site.

[codral]

Not really, i just don't like gays. I'm going to take wild guess and say that considering you play WoW your 'great girlfriend' is either

1) a man
2) horrendously ugly
3) non existent

I'm going to go with option 1) a man, and say that it's OK just don't try push your gayness on anyone else, i don't doubt that you've attempted to convert a few before.

[Blakbow]

OK, I see now you're hopeless, you ARE 13, and I'm done speaking with a primate.
I sincerely hope that one day you grow up and realize you're not funny.

[codral]

I'm 20 FYI, and i'm not being funny, i'm quite serious, gay people suck assss, if your offended by people not liking your lifestyle choice then you should avoid internet forum's as the vast majority of people at least pretend to share this view

Also why is my account not blocked yet? Please block it..

[snowieken]

Wow. Just... wow. I simply ask someone to not use the word "gay" as an insult anymore and this is what we get. I did that several times, and most of the time I just got an apology and people moved on. As Blakbow said, it's a pretty general insult and people don't really think about the proper meaning when they use the word. No harm done. That's why I like to remind them.

But here I get a gay-bashing and totally homophobic tirade one would only expect 20 years ago. Seriously. People don't have to be gay themselves to defend them. There is also something called tolerance and respect for other people's choices.

Codral, time to say goodbye. It's clear that you joined the wrong forum. You are entitled to your own opinion, but if it is so filled with misinformation, stereotypes and general hatred, you should have kept it for yourself. As I said, we are a tolerant forum or at least we try to be. So take your homophobic crap elsewhere.

On a side note:... than a mod asking you not to use the term gay here ...Just to avoid any misunderstandings, it's perfectly allowed to use that word. But not as an insult. Then we tend to get annoyed.