farming BOP's in an instance for another character on your account

[johnmacd]

Is there an easy way to get a BOP item for one your your alts, using your main character?
Last night I tried using my main, while in a party, to use my main character to clear the instance, log out of the instance, get my alt invited to the group and then loot the boss. It sort of worked. When my alt joined the party, I saw my main listed in the party (as being offline), but my alt was not able to loot the corpse. There was the loot bag, but when I went to loot it, there was nothing there and the loot bag didnt disappear.

[Twoflower]

you have to be present during the kill. there is no way, sorry. Get a friend to help you.

[moopy]

You can't loot the bosses because you weren't there when they died, sadly..

[johnmacd]

You can't loot the bosses because you weren't there when they died, sadly..

Hmm, does being disconnected count as being there or not? I had 2 characters from the same account in the same party, but one was disconnected (after the boss was killed). The one that was disconnected actually showed on my friends list as being online. I think I'm gonna try having both characters in the party before the boss is killed and see what happens.

[Twoflower]

no.

look it is simple.

you need to be there, online, and on the agro list of the mob for recieving the right to loot.

Play your twink and get someone else to do the killl, there is NO other way.

[moopy]

Hmm, does being disconnected count as being there or not? I had 2 characters from the same account in the same party, but one was disconnected (after the boss was killed). The one that was disconnected actually showed on my friends list as being online. I think I'm gonna try having both characters in the party before the boss is killed and see what happens.

Generally, no. This is really frustrating for someone in your raid who gets DCed during a boss fight, who gets back to see a dead boss that they can't loot. I think it works like that precisely to foil cunning schemes like yours :)

Generally, even releasing before the boss dies is enough to stop you being able to loot, much less being offline. You have to be there, online, dead or alive.

[Wiglet]

I had 2 characters from the same account in the same party, but one was disconnected (after the boss was killed).
Surely that's the reason you disconnected?

[johnmacd]

Surely that's the reason you disconnected?

LOL. Of course!

[Wintrow]

I suggest finding a like-minded player and you help eachother out. Much easier...

[Orbstu]

The best way is indeed to have a friend help you.

Both myself and my mate have lvl 70 hunters who can do a full boss run in Gnomer in less than 30 minutes and we regularly run each other through instances up to ST, the old instances higher than this just take too much time.

Our favourites for speed would be SFK and SM

[Fishbeard]

you could buy another account ...transfer your twink onto that ....buy a loptop and play both accounts at the same time ..that what my gm does with his lvl 70 priest and an alt , perfect for gold grinding apparantly (y)

[NOYB]

One of the worst things about this game is the ability to "run" people for loot. I just despise it. It's one of the major reasons no one can form a PuG. A large percentage of the competent players that would be real assets to a group wish to merely bypass as much of the content as possible. Note: These are the same people that look down on gold-sellers and power-levelers. Which are basically doing the same thing.

Don't be a hypocrite. Earn your gear. Even if it's the 50th time.

[snowieken]

One of the worst things about this game is the ability to "run" people for loot. I just despise it. It's one of the major reasons no one can form a PuG. A large percentage of the competent players that would be real assets to a group wish to merely bypass as much of the content as possible. Note: These are the same people that look down on gold-sellers and power-levelers. Which are basically doing the same thing.

Don't be a hypocrite. Earn your gear. Even if it's the 50th time.I wouldn't go as far as comparing them to gold sellers and powerlevelers, since they are still playing the game themselves. No matter whether they run after a big level or not, they are still present, playing the game. It's not cheating. I understand that, if you run an instance for the 50th time, it can get boring, but you wouldn't want to miss out on the great loot just because it's boring.

I don't do runs, because I find it cheesy. I don't play the game just to run behind a big level and pick up some loot every now and then. Even if I have done the instance 50 times, I still like to earn my gear myself. I love instancing, but it's indeed hard to find a PuG. And that's where I definately agree with you, I also think one of the major reasons of that is the ability to run people.

[moopy]

I don't know, when you've hit the level cap a few times, the attraction of PUGging Gnomeregan rather fades.. It's understandable- if someone rolls a warrior as their Nth character, it's because they want (for example) to tank for their guild in raids or murder people in arenas- not because they want to savour the sights and sounds of lowbie areas that they've seen so many times before. That really can be a slow and painful way to get things done.

That said, I did actually run every pre-Outland instance up to Sunken Temple with a level-appropriate group at least once while I was levelling my Draenei shammy, since it had been a while since I'd slogged through the lowbie content. However, I have another lowbie who needs a load of levelling, and I have to admit that I am not keen on the idea of my own ingame version of "Groundhog Day".

The answer (for me, at least), lies somewhere between the two absolutes.

[Findariel]

Well I admit that when I want a nice BoP item for one of my characters I sometimes clear the way with my main, get a guildie to take over the "group" and then D/C and join with the character for who the item was meant.
The guildie then kills the boss, and if the item drops it's for my character.
In the same way I sometimes help my guildies get some nice items.

Well I wonder, what do you expect? Getting a group for low level dungeons is extremely tedious, it can take hours - sometimes days - to get a decent group and the item you want may have a 7.3% drop chance. By the time the item drops at last AND if no-one else rolls for it and gets it so finally you are able to get it, you may have done the instance like 10 times. For 1 item.

Imo this is a flaw in the game. Why is it done like this? Yes I love challenges, but not challenges called "finding a group for an instance (and do it 10 times)" that may take weeks to accomplish just to get 1 item (like f.i. the priest mace in RFK that about every class could roll for).

Sure, I'm all for the DDO dungeon system (with level caps on instances so you can't enter them above a certain level) but it would also be VERY nice to be able to get a group for a run within 15 minutes, not 6 hours. I'd propose to make instances cross-server, just like battlegroups. That may solve the problem a bit - I do wonder though if the lack of people for a group is due to all the running or the running is due to the fact that getting a group can be so extremely tedious!!

Another things is that WoW has a huge level range, so even if friends want to help, their characters are either completely overpowered or useless.

[xDarkDrifterx]

I'd propose to make instances cross-server, just like battlegroups.

This is a great idea IMO especially for the solo people. You get transfered to a different server for every instance anyways, so why not make it global for the battlegroup?

Should throw that idea at a GM on the official forums.

:thumbsup:

[clevins]

Yeah, you have to be present at the kill.. I DCed during the Attumen fight at the start of Kara... The Worgen Claw Necklace dropped which would have been useful to me, b ut since they killed him while I was DCed... no luck.

it would be nice if blizz differentiated between someone who participated in a fight but died and released or DCed from someone who was not in the fight at all and just runs in to loot... but it's not th at big of a deal once you know how it works.

[Zendarin]

Yeah, you have to be present at the kill.. I DCed during the Attumen fight at the start of Kara... The Worgen Claw Necklace dropped which would have been useful to me, b ut since they killed him while I was DCed... no luck.

it would be nice if blizz differentiated between someone who participated in a fight but died and released or DCed from someone who was not in the fight at all and just runs in to loot... but it's not th at big of a deal once you know how it works.

Not much they can do if you DC but if you die you just hang out for a few - you can roll on items even if dead. If loot lvls are set properly someone loots the boss and you simply roll need on the item. Make sure you communicate what you are doing however to avoid accidents and/or hard feelings.

I have won some pretty awesome rolls while lying there dead :)

[clevins]

Oh, I came back just after the kill... it's not like I DCed for an hour or so...

Thing is, we just res everyone or wait for them to run back before looting... a couple of minutes isn't going to kill us - the loot won't change after all.

[bwirum]

One of the worst things about this game is the ability to "run" people for loot. I just despise it. It's one of the major reasons no one can form a PuG. A large percentage of the competent players that would be real assets to a group wish to merely bypass as much of the content as possible. Note: These are the same people that look down on gold-sellers and power-levelers. Which are basically doing the same thing.

Don't be a hypocrite. Earn your gear. Even if it's the 50th time.

You know, this is really a vicious circle. One guy gets run through. The other guy can't get a group because guy one got run through instead of pugging. He gets run through because he's tired of trying to get a group, then the next guy can't get group... etc. I principally agree with you.