Thinking of starting a new toon who doesnt buy or sell, what class?

[caldepen]

Been playing the game for a while and I was thinking of starting a character who cannot buy or sell anything. All my equipment has to be found or q rewards. The exceptions will be a mount (because it would be too frustrating) and profession/class training. Of course I cannot take handouts either and will play on a pvp realm.

Do you think quest rewards (money) and found money will be enough to pay for class/profession training and eventually a mount (cheap one)? My first impulse is to say no, but the more I think about it if I am not spending a penny on anything else the money should add up right?

What class would you suggest?

[Gavriel]

This sounds very interesting. Would you be able to sell items you pick up to the vendor? If so, I do believe money should accrue at a reasonable rate. My recommendation would be a Hunter, however that means you do need to purchase your ammunition.

[caldepen]

no if i choose hunter than i would have to go with engineering/mining to make bullets. No selling at all, just q rewards and found coppers baby! If i cannot afford a mount by 40, so be it...

[Gavriel]

Then it would most likely be possible. However, if you are unable to sell items at all I suspect you will find your gold gathering abilities to be severely reduced. Good luck.

[coani]

then you need something self-sufficient, with minimal gear requirement.
I'd say any caster (mage or lock), or feral druid (who technically speaking doesn't need weapon upgrades).

[wretchedsoul]

then i would suggest a warlock, not only do you get a free mount (well....relatively so....its 1g for the spell training) a warlock is a bit less gear dependant to do its job (at least till about midgame)

[ahhdamm]

i would say druid. you get your travel forum at 30. you don't have to upgrade your weapon. you can heal yourself since you'll be under geared, stealth around deaths so you don't have to pay repair cost, and you don't have to spend exsta gold to train pets like hunters or warlocks do.

[Richakin]

warlock or druid would be my choice.

warlocks aren't gear dependant at all imo. druids for the dps/tank/caster forms.


this reminds me of Single Player Diablo2, loved playing that, hence going with a Warlock, fun playing Hardcore D2 with a naked Necromancer =P

[Wintrow]

Carefull though, druids need two sets of gear to be able to heal adequatly in instances and dps adequately in solo pve

[Twoflower]

warlock. you can play him to 70 naked and you get 2 free mounts.

[NOYB]

Make a warlock. Take tailoring/enchanting. (You'll need to obtain rods for higher level enchants, but I'd think you could offer services or materials for one.) The raw materials you purchase (like thread/dyes/etc are unavoidable.) All of your gear will be made/enchanted by you or found through quests/drops.

What to do with the excess mats? Send them to an alt character and let him sell it. Keep the profits on the bank and see how much you could make playing the auction house with that toon. The hard part will be resisting sending any gold to your main.

[swaldman]

I hate to be pessimistic, but if you don't allow yourself to even sell stuff to vendors, then I suspect that you won't be able to afford skill training sometime around the lvl 8-12 mark. Maybe it will pick up later, but I have my doubts.

[moopy]

It does sound like slightly less fun than watching lichen growing on a sloth.. :)

[bwirum]

When reading the op I assumed he meant not selling or buying from other players?

[xDarkDrifterx]

This sounds very interesting. Would you be able to sell items you pick up to the vendor? If so, I do believe money should accrue at a reasonable rate. My recommendation would be a Hunter, however that means you do need to purchase your ammunition.


I'd say a mage.

As a hunter, don't pick a hunter we get expensive. The monies you spend on ammo, food (for two - you and your pet) and water get to be a bit much when you get higher level.

I carry 60 of each food and water (usually lasts 1-2 game playing sessions)
at a median cost of 50s a stack (for 5) you would be spending

Food (60) - 4 (stacks of food) X 50s = (20 food = 2G ) x 3 = 6G
Water (60) - 4 (stacks of water) X 50s = (20 food = 2G ) x 3 = 6G

So at a median price you spend 12G every day to 2 days for your Hunter (but water and food prices vary and is usually a bit more than that)

This does not include purchasing a full quiver of Warden's Arrow @ 50 s a stack X18 = 9G every 3-4 days depending on if you're raiding or instancing then thats 9G every day or two.

As a mage you'll never ever have to buy the two major expenses that we all have to buy during our gaming - and that's food and water.

Why would you not allow yourself to sell the quest rewards / drops / etc to a vendor at least? If you're not going to DE stuff and then post mats to the AH and not allow yourself to sell junk to the vendor then you're gonna loose out on thousands of gold . . . .

[caldepen]

I am thinking that it would interesting to play the game without all the commercialistic buying and selling and see if it is possible. I deal with enough of that stuff in real life. BUY, BUY, BUY!!! SELL, SELL, SELL!!! Go to Wall-mart and spend!!! Why play a videogame to do the same S@#$ ?

On paper it seems like it would take longer to level but I am thinking that my other characters spend way too much time at the auction house so it might actually be quicker. If you look around Org. or IF and see all the people that just hang out there showing off their l33t gear or dueling (why!!!?? its like playing poker without money, but thats another thread) you will understand why I think this might be a pleasant alternative.

You raise a good point about hunter's though and I think they are not viable although they would make for a better storyline... I was thinking a feral druid or warlock but you make a good argument for mage...

These are the exceptions;

I can buy;
Training
mounts
profession supplies (skinning knife, thread, recipes from vendors...)

I can except from other players;
conjured water in a group situation (if necessary for my toon)
enchants if I supply the mats

" I don't want to buy anything sold or processed, sell anything processed or bought or process anything bought or sold. Other than that I just want to date your daughter..." - Lloyd Dobler

[Stigg]

And you can not sell anything? i.e. a grey item drops. You can't sell that to the vendor?

If that is the case, its gonna be bloody hard to level. By the time you will be able to afford your level 2 abilities you will be level 6.

[Ev_]

Live off the land eh? That was a great way to play in D2, but I suspect it will be much more difficult in WoW. Let us know how it goes. And if you aren't going to sell anything, I think it would be very cool for you to give all the worthwhile stuff away. If you can't find someone to give it to directly, drop it on the AH for a 1c buyout. People would love you.

[Janfader]

All I can say is GL! You'll be lvl 10 with lvl 2/4 spells/abilities.

Playing a Rogue may grant you "some" extra cash while pick pocketing.

So, your going to just drop the items you pick up? I may make an alt on your server to follow you and collect! lol

Sounds like Madness! lol

[Shadowpup]

Those who suggested Warlock are misguided I think.

If he can't buy bullets or arrows, he can't buy tomes for demons either.

Dwarf Hunter, Mining and Engineering.

Have no clue why you want to roll on PVP. Life will be hard enough already without the gankers.

[coani]

shadowpup: uhm no. buying tomes is covered under class training.

[Zarfol]

Go lock. You can save tons of money that way since you only need a few skills and your mount is cheap

Level affliction. Buy only the skills you need, AKA corruption, curse of agony, life tap, fear, drain life, (rank 1 is good enough), 1 rank of curse of recklesness and possibly shadow bolt. You can get by without tomes, don't need em. Imp till 10, VW till 20, Succy to 40 (get rank 1 seduction), and imp at 40 when you get dark pact. Immolate is an option if you want to get that too. You can survive without healthstones (fear and use bandages from the cloth you pick up). Don't do any professions, you don't need them and will just cost money that you need for your skills.

On another note, you won't be able to repair either, so playing a class like lock gives you an advantage, since you can fear and not have to worry about mobs destroying good armor you have found.

[caldepen]

Well I have been experimenting a bit and I have two adds;

quest items if only available at a vendor are ok (for example I think I remember a bloodelf selling party supplies or something). And I am debating pvp rewards since no money is involved.

As far as not having enough money to train early on that is not the case, questing seems to pay for that quite easily.

One last question, which class uses the least amount of bought items at the 60-70 range?