Highest DPS Class In WoW

[Trogstad]

Is there a single class in WoW that is generally considered to have the highest DPS ?

[Thargos]

There's not one that's ALWAYS on top but Warlock, Rogue, and hunter are usually the top ones.

[Leeson]

There's not one that's ALWAYS on top but Warlock, Rogue, and hunter are usually the top ones.

u forgot mage

[Thargos]

u forgot mage
It's spelled you.

oh yeah, and mage is up there too.

btw 200 food plz kthxbai

[Gavriel]

Is there a single class in WoW that is generally considered to have the highest DPS ?

It depends on the situation. I have however seen a single Affliction Warlock score 49.something% of a fully Epicced out Raid Group doing Kara's damage. The rest of the group was very, very decent. The Warlock however was quite simply overpowered.

[theseus]

Rogue, warlock usually, depends what stage in the game you mean?

[Leeson]

It's spelled you.

if u wanna get picky then "ALWAYS" should be "always" :rolleyes:

[Thargos]

if u wanna get picky then "ALWAYS" should be "always" :rolleyes:

I was putting an emphasis on it. Which is hard to do on the interwebs.

[Leeson]

I was putting an emphasis on it. Which is hard to do on the interwebs.

u should do it with italics not caps ;)

but anyway, i dont think people want to hear us argue :S

sorry if i seemed arrogant saying that u forgot mage

./hug :heart:

[Gavriel]

u should do it with italics not caps ;)

but anyway, i dont think people want to hear us argue :S

On the contrary. I for one enjoy reading discussions involving the illiterate. It has the same penchant for humour as watching two blindfolded girls oil wrestle.

[Leeson]

On the contrary. I for one enjoy reading discussions involving the illiterate. It has the same penchant for humour as watching two blindfolded girls oil wrestle.

sorry Gav, im a lover not a fighter :(

[Gavriel]

sorry Gav, im a lover not a fighter :(

Then I will settle for the two blindfolded girls. Ah, the choices we are forced into.

On the topic at hand. Are you looking for burst damage or sustainable damage?

[Trogstad]

Then I will settle for the two blindfolded girls. Ah, the choices we are forced into.

On the topic at hand. Are you looking for burst damage or sustainable damage?

A good question, which I didn't really consider (noob that I am). I was just trying to settle an argument with my son, which it appears I have handily lost.

[Thargos]

u should do it with italics not caps ;)

but anyway, i dont think people want to hear us argue :S

sorry if i seemed arrogant saying that u forgot mage

./hug :heart:

/hug

I haven't played with many mages..and haven't started one yet. Probably why I forgot them.

[Pongle]

u forgot mage

Mages are trash dps in raids.

[agallochy]

I usually find the best DPSers to be either a lock or mage, but it all depends on the player's skill. Rogues and hunters can put out good damage too. Ret pallies, fury warriors, shadow priests, elemental shamans and feral druids can all put out decent damage also. But it's always skill>gear>"built in" talent. A skilled shaman could out DPS a poorly played fire mage. It all depends on the player. But it's usually locks and mages, sometimes rogues, that come out on top.

[ressorgimento]

I agree with the above discussion, it all depends on the situation. Myself, being a warlock (L50) believe when it's about attacking multiple targets or sustain DPS in continued battle when fighting higher levelled mobs, a warlock can overpower other DPS classes like a mage. I can instantly cast mana efficient DOT's spells on different targets in a row which do a lot of damage.. while later replenesh my mana. killing low level mobs however takes on the downside allmost the same time as higher level mobs, and is less mana-efficient. Or in raids in PvP when i am able to put DOT's on many, I top the damage ranks. But through the weak burst damage very vulnerable to for example rogues.

I always play together with a friend of mine who is a mage, and when attacking one mob, low level, he overpowers me completly, the more difficult the mobs are, the more the DOT can furfill there power, the better a warlock can come into the fight. Although the mage does far more burst damage against a single target, a warlock can progress without allmost no downtime, you can pull from a distance and your mana is replenished through lifetap.. Often when we do single targets that means, he lays down the first ones fast, later it's all about drinking, while i further progress laying down the next mobs one after another.. when we do low level targets, i'm totally useless compared to him, because my DOT's spell are not efficient compared to the burst damage of a mage. Thats why we always have to go for higher level areas compared to our level. So multiple targets with higher levelled mobs, warlock rocks. Lay down 2 goes almost as fast as lay down 1.

So low level mobs, warlock suck, single targets it goes, the bigger the better.DOT's become more efficient, DPS goes up. In multiple targets warlock rocks without discussion.

I think in sustained DPS, taking one target after another, not on multiple ones, same levelled mobs, a rogue is better.

Burst damage, definetly a mage.. sometimes i'm really surprised how fast a mage can put one down.. but then it's mana is completly empty, while a lock is always ready for the next fight..

that's my opinion.

[det]

AoE tanking Paladin on trashmobs in Mt Hyjal and SoC, Warlock dps is insane, followed by mages.

Take the AoE tank away and we suffer already.

Beyond SSC / TK, Destro locks > Afflocks..so it is not only the class, but the specc too....

[Herald of Doom]

Best Mages I know reach 1700 dps or so. Rogues and warlocks with the same gearlevel outdamage them easily, and so do the hunters. Depending on the encounter rogue or warlock is number one.

[mesonm]

I was putting an emphasis on it. Which is hard to do on the interwebs.

If you want to get picky, there is no such thing as an "interwebs".

And, your second portion is not a sentence, but is more of a fragment....

I'm not sure why you throw stones when you are in a glass house. I do it because I like seeing glass break.

:grin:

[Tollin]

"Buzzsaw" shaman, while threat limited, can out dps anyone.

Fire mages, rogues, BM hunters, and warlocks are all about the same in dps capability, it all depends on the person pushing the keyboard.

[Twoflower]

it all depends on the person pushing the keyboard.

exactly. i was shocked to see a PALADIN doing 1800 DPS in a recent fight overview. anything is possible nowadays. for the first time in 3 years, skill actualy matters in pve :D

[Meds tbh]

Do you have a tier system here? I know in other games the classes are usually broken down into tiers, like:

T1 - all out dps classes like mages
T2 - dps with something else like CC or off-tanking
T4 - Support classes
T3 - healers and tanks (although with buffs MTs score high in raid in other games, not raider here yet)

Oh, and there's also Rogues, who in every MMO I've played can T1 dps, off tank and CC. But that's because Devs play rogues ;)

[Tort]

Well, in an end-game raiding situation, theoretically a rogue should have some of the highest dps, just because he is pure dps. His limited CC is useless in raids (virtually all trash and bosses are immune to sap), and evasion tanking is more of a gimic than a viable tanking strategy. All a rogue really does is pew pew, while other classes, such as warlocks, mages, shamans, ect. all bring some other utility or buffs to the raid that might justify slightly lower dps.

That being said, our rogues, locks and mages tend to almost always top our dps charts in raids. On Aoe packs like in MH, locks and mages can really destroy the charts.

[bentt]

Is there a single class in WoW that is generally considered to have the highest DPS ?


I would say rogue for sustained DPS, maybe fury Warr

[Mallstrop]

In the end game it's all about putting together groups within the raid that offer the best synergies.

Dependant on the fight you mainly see warlocks at the top, they're either being buffed by the fire mages or the shadow priests depending on their spec.

Rogues can do a lot of damage and easily top the meters but there's a lot of fights where they have to run in and out to do damage. They're also reliant on having a Windfury totem and other buffs.

The warlocks get the easier time since they're standing out of harms way and spamming pretty much 1 button (A Destruction shadow lock before the warlocks here start to complain) where as Rogues have to keep slice and dice up as part of their rotation for max damage

[Cerberus]

We'll have to narrow it down to single target in a static tank and spank fight where rogues don't have to run out, hunters can use pets etc. You could look at who usually gets to do the most damage as well, but that says very little about potential.

Mallstrop is right, It's all about synergies. If everyone gets the proper synergies and can play their class I'd say BM hunters untill rogues get glaives. Not many hunters know how to play their class properly tho.. Synergies still play the biggest part. It's down to who gets the most buffs if everyone is equally skilled/geared.

[dexterhall]

http://www.wwsscoreboard.com/classplacings.php

[Stowned]

u should do it with italics not caps ;)

but anyway, i dont think people want to hear us argue :S

sorry if i seemed arrogant saying that u forgot mage

./hug :heart:

It really is spelled "You". "i" should be capitalized, and you neglected an apostrophe in the contraction "don't". Also, a sentence should never begin with the word "But". And you should use proper punctuation to denote the ending of a sentence. I.E. use periods.

:-D

Flame-Fanning FTW!

[MixiMan]

It really is spelled "You". "i" should be capitalized, and you neglected an apostrophe in the contraction "don't". Also, a sentence should never begin with the word "But". And you should use proper punctuation to denote the ending of a sentence. I.E. use periods.

:-D

Flame-Fanning FTW!

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[Justinledwards]

In the BT/MH guild my toons are in (I don't raid) the WWS always show mages in top three, pushing 1800-2200 DPS (that's over the whole raid). MH of course has lots of trash for AoE. From an archi kill last night + 1st three in BT, I see #1 as mage then hunter, rogue, hunter, mage, mage, warlock, hunter.

For a 4/5 hyjal, I see #1 mage then mage, mage, warlock, warlock, warlock, rogue, enh shaman. Mages and locks all doing between 1500-2000dps over the whole raid.

It depends on the raid, really.

[Cerberus]

MH has tons of trash waves you aoe. Looking at mage and lock dps over the entire run really doesn't give a good idea of what they are capable of. Aoe classes will own everyone else when aoeing ofc, but it's impossible to tell anything about single target dps from average dps on trash+bosses. Dps on trash also has a lot of "noise" from afking, idling, buffing, drinking, CCing etc. Looking at each boss will give you a better idea.

Have a look at a static fight where people get to nuke as much as they want.

[Lobothomy]

Rogues for life.

[Meds tbh]

http://www.wwsscoreboard.com/classplacings.php

So basically my having a Priest main and Druid alt means I'm wasting my time? I thought S Priests were higher tier dps than that :cry:

[Mallstrop]

Shadow priests are more of a support class than anything else, you'll just be there to keep the mana of the proper damage dealers up so they can do good damage.

Druids are pretty much the same, they're there for the 5% crit aura for their party.

I'm not saying they can't top the damage meters but they'd have to out gear the rest of the raid by a fair bit or have fellow raiders that don't know how to play. (Might be a bit harsh but in my opinion true)

[moopy]

So basically my having a Priest main and Druid alt means I'm wasting my time? I thought S Priests were higher tier dps than that :cry:

They aren't there for flat-out DPS, and threat cap quite a lot. Right now, I suspect that rogues are the absolute flat-out highest DPS, if we're assuming raid buffed and the best gear in the game. I've seen a rogue push a sustained 3000 or so DPS on a static target- vs a demon, using warglaives. Destruction warlocks are pretty impressive too, pushing in the high 2k range.

However, having the highest DPS isn't as important as all that. Having good DPS for your class (not slacking) matters, not pulling aggro matters, but class synergy matters too. All the classes bring something useful to the raid- buffs, debuffs, crowd control, special situational abilities etc. Shadow priests give a nice damage debuff, do solid damage, and return mana (which is their most valuable trick). They are valued hugely. Meter sniffing isn't the key to solid kills- teamwork and synergy are :)

[Meds tbh]

Not levelling with 12 year olds it isn't!

Although when I heal pretty much a whole instance Vamping in shadow form and am usually top dps they stfu :)

[elsegundo]

leveling with 12 year olds is kinda a chore i know. most of the time i'd rather be solo.... less instances for me!

[Oatmealsmurf]

These type of threads are always pointless because people who play classes that aren't named get offended and fall back on the "it depends on the player pushing the buttons".

But in general while some guilds individual experiences will differ based on the talent of their players... in most guilds you will see Destro Locks, Rogues and BM hunters toping the damage meters (no particular order). Mages generally close behind.

[bearbehind]

Hunters can top em - but IMO shouldn't. Hunters should be using their pets and traps to CC the adds and aggro breakers as well as laying down a decent DPS

Good hunters will know how to do this - bad hunters will just want to blaze away at the baddies.

[Meds tbh]

Well as a relatively new player I don't think these type of threads are pointless. You have to measure the results against situations etc. but know which are the T1, T2 ect dps classes and the same for healers and tanks is pretty damn useful imo.

[jschild]

I think the point is, depending on skill level, group composition, etc, almost any class can top the raid damage meter.

I've seen Ret Paladins top some Raids. And they cleared the raid also.

Does this mean Ret is top DPS. LOL, not even close. It just worked out in that group composition and skill level.

Suffice to say, if you roll Hunter, Rogue, Warlock, or Mage, AND gear and play the class correctly, you will be near the top in DPS over most fights and be fully worth your spot. Beyond that, it is just E-peening (is that a word?) over who is tops.

All any player should worry is....
1. Am I doing enough DPS (if played and geared correctly, that answer will be yes for those 4 classes).
2. Am I watching my threat and not pulling aggro every 5 seconds.

Do that, and you are set.

[Wintrow]

It's not about who's rightfully best, it's about who's wrongfully worst.